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Giants 2, Mets 0: Lincecum Outlasts Dickey

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At least it was quick. Two hours, eleven minutes -- Joe West's dream. Tim Lincecum went the distance against a struggling Mets lineup, which managed just six singles and one walk. His career ERA against the Mets coming into tonight was 5.04, the highest vs any National League team. It's now 3.71. The silver lining is that Carlos Beltran played a full nine innings without incident, managing a single in four respectable at-bats. However, he was thrown out trying to steal second base in the fourth inning by Giants catching menace Buster Posey. It's great to have Beltran back -- there's something comforting about that swing.

Another outstanding effort by R.A. Dickey went to waste. He allowed one run in seven stout innings, giving way to knuckleheads Elmer Dessens, Pedro Feliciano and Bobby Parnell. Parns induced a Travis Ishikawa double play to end the eighth inning, cleaning up the mess left by Dessens (0.1 IP, two hits, one run) and Feliciano (0 IP, four pitch BB). It's strange that Jerry Manuel went with Dessens to start the eighth instead of Parnell, considering Parnell's recent eighth inning usage. It's not strange that Jerry burned through three relievers to complete just one inning. Tonight was a prime example of why "Elmer Dessens, high leverage relief pitcher" is a terrible idea. You don't want a guy who pitches to contact, and doesn't profile as a groundball pitcher, appearing in big spots.

Gary and Keith discussed the possibility of Jason Bay losing playing time because of recent struggles, presumably to Jeff Francoeur. I think the discussion occurred during one of the two plate appearances resulting in Bay reaching base, which made me chuckle. Look, I get that Bay has been a disappointment and the lack of power is troubling. But his OBP is still around .360 and his OPS is 87 points higher than Frenchy's. This is a huge gap. Salary and preseason expectations need to be forgotten when divvying up playing time. Only production, and expected production, should be considered. Bay must play everyday, unless he's hurt or goes into a massive tailspin. Also, Angel Pagan went 0-4. This is not the end of the world. No, he is not folding under the pressure of replacing Francoeur, as Bob Ojeda suggested during the postgame show. I really hope that doesn't become a meme. Angel has kicked (well, almost kicked) the "low baseball IQ" thing -- we don't need another fabricated storyline about a good player's character and intelligence.

If the Mets are to lose, let it be to Lincecum. Friday's matchup is Jon Niese vs. Barry Zito.

Unintentionally sexual quote of the game #1: "You make him get it up, and when he does you gotta go with it." -- Bob Ojeda on Lincecum during the pregame show

Unintentionally sexual quote of the game #2: "Dickey is going to go deeper." -- Keith Hernandez

Poem by Howard Megdal

In Beltran's return, Dickey just gets better
Succeeding with his ever-so-mild cheddar
But Lincecum topped him, Mets couldn't jimmy
A lock on their bats secured by young Timmy

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Big winners:  R.A. Dickey +18.8%, Jason Bay +8.7%
Big losers: Angel Pagan -20.7%, David Wright -12.2%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Josh Thole single +8.3%
Teh sux0rest play: Pablo Sandoval RBI double -11.1%
Total pitcher WPA: +13.0%
Total batter WPA: -63.0%
GWRBI!: Pablo Sandoval

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by astromets; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

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1 astromets 136
2 Evan_S 104
3 CTRefJay 97
4 aparkermarshall 75
5 MookieTheCat 70
6 Syler 67
7 Gina 61
8 Kepler 49
9 blueandorange4life 49
10 fxcarden 47

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Not for nothing, but the ump was really giving Lincecum a huge strike zone, especially in the last inning.

I don’t know if our pitchers were benefiting from it, since I only noticed it in the 9th, but…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Shitty, shitty offense strikes again

Positive spin:

-Lincecum was due for a good game against us
-We face Zito tomorrow, who isn’t good
-We lost the first game of a series in San Francisco in 2006, 2007 and 2008. We won all of those series

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Dickey quotes himself in 3rd person?

Truly a renaissance man.

From Fred to Jeff
and O to Jerr
Funny things
Are everywhere

- Dr. Seuss (if he were a Mets fan)

by StorkFan on Jul 16, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

"Dickey is going to go deeper"

shades of tiny dan dickau and his penetrating drives to the basket

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jul 16, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

walton voice: LOOK HOW DEEP THE TINY DICKAU PENETRATES!

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Jul 16, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

How close was Beltran to a SB?

Was he out by a mile or tagged at the bag? Might indicate if Beltran’s knee is healthy.

by cuseindahuse on Jul 16, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

It took a really good throw from Posey to get him

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 16, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

At his last AB, he didn't really even run it out.

Gary mentioned, he might just be being overcautious, or there might be some lingering pain/problems/whatever else, which would be not good.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 16, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He said that's what too much caffeine before the game will do

He saw Posey put two fingers down and couldn’t help himself. I think it indicates that he feels pretty positive about his knee.

The last at-bat he came out of the box hard but then slowed as he saw that the play was going to be made. Hard to tell if that’s knee-favoring or the standard behavior of a major leaguer.

by SuperT on Jul 16, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean?

I’m confident that I’m a Mets fan.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

We all are aware of your confidence...

You are the LeBron of the embiggening game. :)

by MookieTheCat on Jul 16, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I?

Do I really embiggen everyone that much? I feel honored now? I think I’ve been in like one game thread for the past four weeks.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i remember that

you like doubled everyone elses output for the night

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 16, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that night was damn good...

My impression was that you had been to a party at the Hernandez house before the game. But I admit that was one of the few times I checked that stat recently.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 16, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t worry about the offense that much. Lincecum was great, and if anything, he was due to pitch a gem like this vs us anyway. When Reyes returns to being fully healthy and whenever Castillo (yeah, Castillo!) returns, a 1-8 of Reyes-Pagan-Wright-Beltran-Davis-Bay-Thole-Castillo is pretty sweet.

I was more frustrated by Jerry’s moves more than anything. If he lets Dickey swing the bat and uses Parnell for the 8th — 2 logical moves — the game might have been tied, or at least still 1-0, when heading to the 9th.

by nmigliore on Jul 16, 2010 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Having Dickey bunt in that situation was completely retarded

especially since the squeeze wasn’t even on. Moving Thole (it was Thole on 1st, right?) up to second accomplishes absolutely nothing.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that on Gamecast while studying...

And just said that the level of bitching on here must be at a fever pitch.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 16, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be worried...

If not for the line of not so great pitchers who did their best Cy Young impression the 5 or 6 games before the break.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 16, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bunt was ridiculous.

I mean, all he achieved was 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. If he wanted that so badly, bunt with Tejada and you have 2nd and 3rd with 1 out for Dickey, and the worst case scenario becomes 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs for Pagan, aka the best case scenario for bunting with Dickey.

LeBron: Yo Dwyane, dead ass you won't fuck my mom? Or Bosh neither?

by nrmax88 on Jul 16, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

2nd and 3rd with 2 out*

LeBron: Yo Dwyane, dead ass you won't fuck my mom? Or Bosh neither?

by nrmax88 on Jul 16, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

at least our offense is on a roll

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 16, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

this game didnt last nearly long enough

we could have had like 500 more comments

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 16, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Giants fan

Unintentionally sexual quote of the game from a Giants announcer: “Off of Dickey.”-Duane Kuiper

"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Jul 16, 2010 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

dickey hard

to hit, but mets offense not able to come up big in tight spots

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 16, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn it. We should've played Frenchy today.
  • tries to keep a straight face but fails *

Bwaaahahahahahhahaa!!!!

by BrockRocks on Jul 16, 2010 2:20 AM EDT reply actions  

no Reyes in the lineup

so we finally get Beltran and now no Reyes.

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 16, 2010 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I really think there's something to that Pagan quote from Ojeda.

Actually, no I don’t, but I’m just trying to feel what it’s like to be that “GeddyLeeIsGod” character. It feels creepy.

by tmu on Jul 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait a minute

Ojeda made that comment after watching one game? Against one of the league best pitchers, no less?

Bobby, chill out. If he goes 0 for the road trip, then you can make that arguement.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Jul 16, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

wow I didn't even see that

Does Ojeda realize that statement insinuates it’s harder to replace Frenchy than it is Beltran??

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 16, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt this time because it was past midnight on the east coast.

After that, can’t help him.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Jul 16, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 Hour Energy For Beltran

beltran should take 5 hour energy that way next time he runs to first in the 9th

by ILikeIke#29 on Jul 16, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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