Open Thread: Mets vs Giants, 7/17/2010
by Eric Simon on Jul 17, 2010 8:30 PM EDT
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You are one shining ray of optimism
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
It's July 16th and we're 2 games out of the WC
Forgive me if you’re being sarcastic, but there’s a difference between realism and over the top pessimism.
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I was 50% sarcastic.
the other 50% is from 37 years’ worth of experience following this team.
Side Note: everyone’s hero, Steve Phillips was on WFAN today, basically saying that if the Mets are 8 or more back at the deadline they should not be buyers.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
On general principle,
fuck Steve Phillips & his opinions. But he’s right that the Mets shouldn’t be buyers if they’re 8 GB.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Did he mean 8 back of the division or WC?
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
If the Mets are 8+ GB at the deadline, Omar should be fired the next day
Omar has to either:
a) Make a move now to prevent that from happening or
b) Get lucky and have that not happen regardless.
He’s going to waste about 15 games — and probably 3 potential wins — between now (well, a week ago) and then. If we’re not buyers come 7/31, it’s his fault.
it's not Omar's fault nobody can hit.
I blame that on the coaches.
It’s also not Omar’s fault that Jerry made Reyes play hurt.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
But Omar
should’ve stepped in & prevented Manuel from letting Reyes play. I won’t blame him for the hitting though.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
you dont blame omar for jeff? i do
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
and cora for that matter
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
It is Omar's fault
that he hired this idiot of a manager. It’s also his fault for doing a mediocre job of getting prospects. Ollie’s contract is his fault, so is Castillo’s. That said he could be worse and pull a Jim Duquette by trading Mejia for some overrated pitcher.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If we fall that far behind, it'll be because of the Braves more than anyone else
They’re probably the best team in the NL
Of course, I don’t think we’ll be that far back.
But in regards to your complaint, aside from a move for Lilly, a trade for a RH reliever, and maybe a trade for Kelly Johnson, there isn’t a whole lot Omar can do without ripping apart our farm system.
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I just want a win tonight
I don’t care how ugly it is, I really don’t want to fall into 3rd place
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Ken Ober > Ken Oberkfell
Oliver Perez just gave up his second HR of the game, 3-3 with the Bisons coming up in the sixth.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
He supposedly is throwing in the mid 80s
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To be fair to Perez, he gave up the HR to someone who might have a future in pro baseball
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that makes it inevitable
Ken Ober just yanked OP after a four-pitch walk with 2 outs and one on in the 7th.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
as opposed to all the major leaguers he will give up homeruns to if given a chance?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Someone who hates Ollie
should give me a quick lesson in how to embed a jpeg. Then we can laugh at Ollie some more.
“Pretty nice night on the mound for Ollie,” says the Bisons announcer, presumably because Perez didn’t balk or hit an on-deck batter.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Load photo to an online service like Photobucket, etc.
copy URL of said photo.
Click on little tree icon. Paste URL in pop-up.
Make sure you use a title, so people can minimize if desired.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Get used to the hat, chump
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i would rather have him on the tides
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
whoever scheduled these games was playing a joke on mets fans
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Bisons get a leadoff double, fail to score
This organization does start ’em young.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Jul 17, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Zips has Beltran going .293/.375/.517 for the whole season, which would be 8.7 wRAA
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
i wouldnt buy into zips in this case no matter what they have
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
how reliable is ZIPS?
compared with everything else
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 17, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no clue, i dont really pay much attention to it
its probably usually pretty good for players with a few seasons worth of stats to go on
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
beltran is playing with no cartilage in his knee and has not played much the past year
that seems hard to predict
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
well it just kept getting worse no?
it was never this bad
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
eddie c says the giants are hot because they scored 3 runs in two games
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Tim Hudson just walked in a run
3-2 Milwaukee in the 7th
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well thats a plus
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
hopefully they can hold it
fuck the braves
3 run double
for Corey Hart. Now 6-2 Milwaukee
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Hell Yeah...I have a feeling the Braves will implode within the next few months
We unfortunately won’t capitalize on it…JERRYBALL
Damn
Why Barajas and not Thole …
How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?
by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 17, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
I would actually root for a shutout if it meant
HoJo was fired.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Ollies final line tonigh
So Perez’s final line: 6 2/3-7-3-3-2-7 And we just got the pitch count: It’s 103-61
Cora is such a winner
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Pop-up party
yet again …
How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?
by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 17, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
On The twitter report I saw the guy reported that noone was up in the Bullpen to support him
some yankee fan posted The Hot Dog vendors do with the 4 hr games
To be fair
the Giants rotation are terrific.
How about an Orange Monster at Citi Field for Bay?
by Mets-Suns-Texans on Jul 17, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
Zito isn't, and we made him look like Randy Johnson
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If Takahashi is in the rotation all year, this team failed miserably
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
The Mets need one of these moments
to get them out of their funk
One day, this team is going to kill me.
K
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Because he really needs to be in the pen
he would be a great solution in the pen if we can sign a solid 3 or 4 pitcher
pitcher's duels are fine for day games
this late shit is boring without runzzzzz
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Leadoff man is on
as Carlos hits a single up the midle
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
beltran is not swinging hard at all...
that is very worrisome to me.
He's rusty
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does rustiness make a difference in swinging hard?
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
reyes was swinging out of his shoes when he first came back
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wow, Ike swings at another pitch in the dirt
STOP SWINGING AT THEM DAMNIT
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Ike K-vis strikes again.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
Ike
you can’t be swinging at that stuff
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
yesterday we mentioned how obp would go up with thole, pagan and beltran, castillo and reyes
how many more pitches per game would the other team have to throw with those guys?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
someone mentioned niese alone took almost as many pitches as rod and frenchy
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Bay BB
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barajas .169 in last 77 pa
last homer may 31
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
he really needs to stop playing for this team at this point
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when Texas wanted him before they got Bengie?
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 17, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
The Mets could have gotten a decent minor leaguer for him
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, who would've thought he'd be this bad?
Oh yeah, I forgot…everybody with a brain and an internet connection.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
The Mets really need to cut him from the team at this point.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How much does Barajas have to suck to get benched?
There’s no reason he should still get playing time.
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by Syler on Jul 17, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't you realize that shittiness and "veteran presence" get rewarded on this team?
Why is Alex Cora still playing? Why is Jeff Francouer playing? Why were Perez and Maine in the rotation forever?
is having a snow ball fight with pitching great Randy Johnson a bad idea ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
thats a good question
maybe kb will ask jerry
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
20 fucking innings
It sucks to be on the other side of this
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Because we are Mets fan
we’d all get diarrhea.
Why do I have a feeling someone would just fill up a box
with their diarrhea and say here are your runs
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I really, really hate Buster Posey
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
i have no idea what that means in terms of playing baseball
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought he runs better with the brace than without it because it limits his pain
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
so we know for a fact he has less range than pagan right now?
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Buster Posey
is a guy I wont miss after this series
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Game over
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F.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
taka really isnt a starter
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Tuh-riffic
Takahashi is NOT a starting pitcher. Period.
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4 straight hits.
where is Warthen ?.
anybody got a sniper rifle ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
We just need to get the hell out of this park
Arizona should bring better fortunes….maybe
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Question
how do you do the “sarcastic text box”?
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
aha thanks
I'm not going to get a lot of use out of this
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well good night everyone
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
And now I turn it off
Fuck you Takahashi, you fucking scrub
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
you know what i am sure of
we aint scoring 6 runs
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
so how are things going?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This is like getting to a party when all the drinks are gone.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
by Michkin on Jul 17, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only 1 hour
’til the Boondocks at 11. Oh, you meant the game?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
? that's not a new one though right?
the new ones tomorrow
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The repeat of
last week is at 11:30. The 1st ep. at 11 is from Season 2. The new one is tomorrow night.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Good night, people.
I think I will stay away from this for a while.
D-Backs, Dodgers, Cardinals, Braves, Phillies
I can’t take it.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
What does it matter?
Scrubahashi would’ve started tomorrow
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
because you don't want to waste your ace to stop a losing skid
One day, this team is going to kill me.
he probably threw on the side like a day or two ago
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Jerryball
and someone Jack Str is raging
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
someone=somewhere
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Bad time to point out....
that the Giants just matched the Mets offense in the past 4 games. In 4 batters.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not going to go that far
But we’re putting ourselves in a hole right now
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
misch ain't gonna get us a playoff spot
we need oswalt
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So he can give up 2 runs a game and lose?
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
this offensive drought won't last forever
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard that last year too...
I think the optimism about the offense is misplaced. Seriously, who’s gonna be our knight in shining armor?
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt doesn't guarantee anything
We need to stop playing scrubs
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The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Oswalt would be like buying a state of the art Linux box...
When you’re still trying to figure out Windows. It might be good, but it ain’t right for you until you work out some other problems.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
misch would put Takasucky back in the bullpen where he belongs
without trading anybody and picking up 36 million owed Oswalt
One day, this team is going to kill me.
and what's the win difference between misch and oswalt?
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
how about a competent manager?
I think we’d score more runs if we actually put people on our roster who can get on base, y’know like Thole instead of Barajas, and Pagan instead of Frenchy.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt=too much money and too many prospects to give up
plus he’s 33. I’d rather them wait till next year than take on more money for a mid 30’s starter.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody next year
the point is that there is less available at the trade deadline, which will jack up the prices. Might as well go into next year with a new manager, GM and a lot of options. This team is flawed and always has been. Any team with Frenchy and Barajas starting will be.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
there is pretty much no one pleasant available this offseason
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I was trying to stay optimistic about this team this morning,
but they make it so hard.
Hard?
Walk hard. Down life’s lonely road.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on this game alone, we are going to overreact and trade the farm for a mediocre pitcher.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
I hope not.
I’d love for the Mets to get another pitcher, but I don’t want Omar doing anything rash.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Probably
Why not try letting Parnell start, he started for us throughout last years cluster-fuck of a season
IDK...I'm like 50/50 on this
It may work if we are lucky…so that means it won’t work…right
That is
a great idea
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not Omars MO
His MO is to spew bullshit about how we don’t need anything, which justifies him doing jackshit at the deadline
Oh, and I would gladly take Lilly at this point
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this is a serious question...
when was the last solid hit we had?
Have we had an extra base hit since?
I’ve been trying to think of one, and I can’t.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
have we had a hit since then?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
i really hope this team learns to hit by friday
im going to the game in LA and dont want to see 1 run given up and fear it is over
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
5-0
Gameday is broken
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
good, its not just me
radio feed works though
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
The Mets will lose tonight regardless of what they do.
What they should do is let Takahashi hit Cain on the head or back.
Given that I'm losing my mind, I suggest that you reassess developing any sort of relationship with me.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jul 17, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
Unnecessary
That was settled last season
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Bring up Ollie, have him do that
Get him suspended, solve two problems at once.
by Dan Lewis on Jul 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So, off topic:
I have a new hobby — I’ve started a daily (M-F) “learn something new every day” email list where I share something interesting. The sign up form is here and the archives are linked right off of it.
Question: Take a look at the archives and tell me what places I should be looking at — blogs, social media sites, etc. — for sources for content. Thanks. :)
Trade for Adam Dunn
Send Ike back to the minors
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Nah
I know this sounds insane, but you have to let Ike play through this. I’m not sure he’s going to learn anything in AAA
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i would put dunn in LF
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
The good news is...
plenty of affordable CitiField tickets in August and September again this year!
things we need
offense
pitching
defense
other than that we’re good
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Grission?
I thought we seriously lacked that.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
our defense isnt too bad
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Yeah, and in fairness the pitching is pretty good too.
Even with the subpar bullpen.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 17, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
3 of our starters are good and pelf should figure it out
and our bullpen could use another reliable arm to replace nieve and it would be pretty solid
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Things we need
Better ownership
Friedman GM
Competent manager
Other than that, we could get a lifetime of GKR and trade KB for someone else.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
and from a long term perspective
a more wealthy owner, a better GM w/ a better scouting department and who’s willing to go over slot for draft picks, a manager who actually have an idea of how to manage a team, and a better medical staff.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you weren't lying when you said you didn't have this on tv.
Watching makes it seem like 20-0.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 17, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's something awful.
The last time we scored more than 4 runs in a game. June 5th.
You mean July 5th?
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Is it wrong
that I wanna hear Gary & Keith take phone calls tonight?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
For anyone foolish enough to continue watching this game
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me three
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This Posey
fellow is pretty good at baseball
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
This Takahashi fellow
is pretty terrible at baseball
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How did Sabean not trade Posey for some crappy veteran?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
he probably tried
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Oh the pain
At this point, it looks like the Braves are going to run and hide in the East
I’m not giving up on the WC though
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is he warming up?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
And Ollie waiting in the wings! Castillo too!
The game and season are saved!
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 17, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that's my cue.
later, guys.
I’m gonna go watch home improvement shows on cable.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Arbitrary poll: How much does Takahashi suck?
A. He’s not terrible.
B. He’s pretty bad.
C. He’s horrendous.
Given that I'm losing my mind, I suggest that you reassess developing any sort of relationship with me.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jul 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Disagree.
He’s the best Japanese pitcher on the Mets.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
True
and probably the best Japanese pitcher in franchise history (right up there with Masato Yoshii).
This is not sad at all
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
D. He has shot his load, put him on the first plane back to Japan.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
A-IF HE WERE USED LIKE HE SHOULD BE OUT OF THE PEN
The way he is being used though, C
hey here's something to cheer people up
Burnett went 2 innings and gave up 4 runs
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
NO WE CANNOT CONSIDER GIVING OLLIE ANOTHER CHANCE
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I assume someone on the picture box said this...
Who? Had to be KB.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprisingly,
Gary did.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Actually Gary.
In fairness, he said it like “well he can’t be worse than this” as Takahashi kept getting shelled,
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
how quickly we forget
ollie can very easily be worse
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
GIVE ME LILLY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
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thats said
and i never thought you would be saying that, even if it is sarcastic
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Random poll: Are the Wilpons broke and prevaricating about their financial disposition?
A. Yes
B. No
Given that I'm losing my mind, I suggest that you reassess developing any sort of relationship with me.
by David, the Mets fan from Queens on Jul 17, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
they will be closer to it after losing more money the rest of this year
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
if anyone has spilled something
they can use Takahashi to wipe it up.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I think I'm going to start a new SB account under the name "Bill from Staten Island"
So I can come on here and make WFAN type Jerry defenses and get everyone pissed off.
Are you sure you dont want a famous bassist as your SB name?
RogerWatersisGod
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL.
First, I will never say I’m from here. I may live here, but I’m not from here. Second, love the Roger Waters thing.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Lord,
it’s Nieve time.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Now Nieve will be lights out
and Jerry will put him in the rotation for the Dodger series.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Braves lose
There’s that I guess
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
really nieve?
since we’re already losing I hope he gets shelled. Maybe if it happens enough we’ll dfa him.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
hey remember like 2 weeks ago
when we were like .5 games back???
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And then the mystery oblique...
That he could play through. Hmmmmmmmm.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
He was great at hitting right handed and only bunting!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS
it all went bad in Puerto FUCKIN Rico
I hope we never play in PR ever again
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not actually happening
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
if that happens
we should file a protest to the league for endangering players’ health with that turf.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that never happened
you shouldnt lie
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I'm not the fighting type
but Parker Posey needs to catch one between the letters next time up. This is ridiculous
I'd rather trade for him.
Seriously, this dude is going to go Chipper on us for the next 20 years unless we get him.
My brother went to college with her at Purchase.
They dated. I will never be my brother. Not even close.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
I did meet her once when I visited.
I was like, who is this very cute, incredibly strange woman following brother around.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I did love her in
a Mighty Wind
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
positive: giants only scored one run that inning
negative: that is still more than we have since the all star break
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
also think maybe we could throw Posey some off speed breaking stuff
aka what the league has done to Ike
Nah
that’d require some brains. Apparently that’s not a prerequisite to a ML managerial job.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes i swear we don't have advanced scouts
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One word:
Madoff. Or cheapness. Or stupidity. Probably all three, actually.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/6914/manuel-reyes-for-sure-monday
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
150%
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS
Why does it seem like no one hates this man like I do. It’s hard to play baseball. I get this. It takes incredible coordination. and skill that most folks just don’t have. Being an athletic trainer takes skill, but it’s learnable skill. And it should be learned and applied.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be up in Miami in a few weeks.
I think a trip to the botanica is in order.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't know how it worked?
Seattle sent cash, didn’t they read the press release?
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They should have called JG Wentworth.
877 CASH NOW
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
well at least Wright has a hit
so I’m happy
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
damnit
frenchy really did rub off on davis
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
on everyone
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
positive clubhouse influence = dont take pitches
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Don't worry...
this team will rake for 10 games. After that…….well that doesn’t really matter.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's like
9 Jeff Francoeurs out there
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Welcome to...
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1asB1haQM
see i-dosing
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this was on the cover of one of my old D&D books.
Yes, I am a giant nerd.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
hey remember how happy we were about the 3 game shut out against the phillies
this is divine retribution
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
what the hell wrong did we do?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
that was all jerry
not us!
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
so?
Jerry’s team swept the Phillies, not us
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
the pain is much more for us
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I hope he homers twice
just for good measure
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
We're 2-7 in our last 9
Santana has our only two wins
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
On the "bright" side, if we keep playing like this, we'll get a protected draft pick again.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
what makes you think the FO can do anything with it?
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Since they can't trade or sell it, only thing left to do is use it.
Even if they draft a guy and don’t sign him, the pick is not lost.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
I mean who was the last player we drafted in the 1st round that has been great?
Pelfrey is a decent pitcher, but his career so far has been mediocre. Where’s our Josh Johnson, Mike Stanton, Jason Heyward, etc?
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Reyes and Wright are significantly older than Stanton and Heyward
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
basically if we use Wright and Reyes then Braves fans have Mcann
and Frenchy (lawl) and Marlins have produced Cabrera, Ramirez, plus Johnson and Stanton.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yeah but I think the point is more the quantity produced
we produced Wright and Reyes what, 5-6 years ago? And it’s been pretty barren since.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ike Davis?
also Stanton and Johnson weren’t first rounders.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
minor side notes
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Ike Davis was never a prospect
on the level of a Stanton or Heyward. Scouts rated him as the 6th best 1B prospect before the season.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but like 97% of prospects
are never on the level of Stanton and Heyward
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
And when any of those 3% are in the Mets organization, we make damn sure to ruin them before they develop.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
true, but when you look up the top 50 prospects lists
there’s not a single player form the Mets system. Teams like the Braves, Rays, Red Sox, and Rangers have multiple prospects. It’s sad that teams like Pittsburg have recently spent more resources on the draft than us.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
thats because Meija isn't eligible
because we’re ruhtards.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Is that from the Hangover
ruhtards?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ike would of been on that list
if he was still in the minors
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Where does Flores rank?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I think they admitted forgetting to put him in the top 50
on their latest list.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
They missed him
on the original list, but they went back & I think put him as an honorable mention
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
This is not because of total money spent on the draft. That is just a clue.
They also do a better job scouting, drafting, developing, trading for prospects, valuing properly Type A free agents.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Also in theory it's not that big of a deal
And I don’t actually think the Red Sox have any top 50 prospects. Big Market teams don’t need to produce mass amounts of their own stars because they can afford to pay for them, in theory, we should be more concerned with producing solid average/to above average players to supplement them, and to package in trades for expensive stars, and those players aren’t generally considered super big time prospects.
The problem is because we’re morons we don’t spend efficiently, so we end up spending like 45 million combined on the likes of Perez, K-rod, and Bay, who isn’t bad enough to be included with them but for the sake of this example for a total of like 4-5 WAR production, when the same combined amount could have gotten us CC and Holliday for like 12-14 WAR. Not to mention because of those contracts we’ll have virtually no chance of making a run at guys like Crawford and Lee.
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sign...
I guess Omar isn’t high on sabermetrics… or even baseball common sense.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Pre-season, the Sox had two players in the Baseball America top 50
Casey Kelly and Ryan Westmoreland. Kelly is still in the top 25, while Westmoreland had brain surgery and might never play the game again.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2010/2610314.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/news/story?id=5319303
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Also..
Big market teams need to be smart and leverage the draft to maximize their MLB roster. Either by producing cheap talent or trading it for proven cost controlled stars. FA is not the best place to build a team, unless you’re the Yankees who can outspend everyone.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that's kind of my point
the mets should be able to outspend everyone instead they nickle and dime themselves like morons because they’re too afraid to give the 100 million dollar contract to someone like Holliday but they’ll give 90 million combined to K-rod and Perez. And like I trading for proven talent or producing cheap average guys. Big Market teams don’t need to produce stars.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
The Red Sox are paying $10 million for Papelbon
and $75 million for Lackey
They have their bad contracts as well, they just make up for it with phenomenal drafts
BTW, I don’t think KRod deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Perez
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Any closer making as much as him
who’s name isn’t Mariano Rivera deserves mention
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Perhaps
but plenty of teams overpay closers, and he’s worked out far better than the other guys from that FA class
Yeah, he’s overpaid, but unless someone decides to get rid of the “save” stat, closers will continue to be overvalued.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Um what closers are on contracts as big as
51 million? Or stand to make 17 million in one year? No teams overpay closers to near the extent we overpaid for K-rod.
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Those great drafts...
Allow them to be hit or miss in the FA market.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that spending wisely in the FA market is important...
But the FA market can be a crap shoot. When teams draft and develop young talent, they are getting optimal return for minimal investment. Most FA are paid more than they will produce over their contract. Big market teams need to develop prospects. By developing prospects, they can either have cheap talent for their roster, or they can trade those players for MLB ready talent.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah dude, that's exactly what I said
what I said is they don’t need to worry about producing stars, like Heyward and Stanton types. Guys like Ike, Tejada/Havens will never be stars likely, but their cheap talent.
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Lester, Youkilis, Pedroia, and Papelbon
All say hello.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
huh
Papelbon isn’t really a star. And I’m not sure what they have to do with anything when we’re talking about the mets, who have Wright and Reyes. And why it doesn’t matter that we don’t have prospects like Stanton and Heyward. What exactly do those guys have to do with anything?
Also if anything Pedroia and Youkillis are perfect examples of my point. They were never top ten prospect/A+++ guys on prospect lists like Stanton and Heyward.
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That's because Youkillis was completely underrated as a prospect
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but that's what I was talking about above
about it being better to have 5-10 B/C- guys than 1 A+ guy.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I agree
with that statement. Strasberg type prospects are once in a generation and its better to have a bunch of good quality prospects than 1 superstar that may or may not pan out.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, wouldn't you trade him for Oswalt?
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
I forgot.
Let me channel my inner Phillips here….. DUH! let me trade the best prospect in a generation who throws 100 mph and has nasty breaking pitches for a guy who is 34 and is owed millions of dollars DUH!!! Now where are the fat chicks?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's okay because
Steve Phillips is in the illuminati along with Justin Bieber
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Youkilis, Eckstein...
Both underrated. I say the Mets should have an all Jewish draft class. Even if no one works out it would be a great way to recruit guys for the front office. Our lawyer, accountant, number cruncher needs would be taken care of for years.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I could break out my Shawn Green jersey again
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Cool story:
My great uncle played ball with Hank Greenberg at James Monroe HS in the Bronx. Legend has it that he actually started over hank at 1B
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Hank Greenberg.
The last Jewish guy ever to attend Monroe.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Zing. Along with my uncles
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
No, you said "Big Market teams don't need to produce mass amounts of their own stars, because they can afford to pay for them"
I disagree. And Papelbon has 171 saves and an ERA+ of 231….he is a star.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
? I'm talking about stars in terms of
wins/war production.
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WAR
Papelbon since 2005 (rookie year) 10.8 WAR
Rivera 14.1 since 2005
Papelbon only pitched 34 innings in 05’
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Papelbon is on pace top have a HOF career
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/7/14/1567607/the-ongoing-quest-to-define-a-hall
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that's around 2 WAR per year
I’m talking about big time impact players…hence Heyward, Stanton, Johnson. At the end of the day, Closers just don’t have that much impact.
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So River isn't a star either?
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Rivera*
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
sure he's a
“star” but that’s not the kind of star we were talking about. How many closers are in top 50 prospect lists?
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So a player needs to be in the top 50 prospect list
To become a star??
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You were talking about producing star players
I didn’t realize players need to be on an arbitrary list to become big time MLB stars.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah stars in terms of impact
not in terms of an outdated stat or name recognition.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Well...
Since 2005 (not counting this year, the season isn’t over), only TWO players in all of baseball have done that.
Pujols and Utley
So there are only two stars currently in baseball?
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 18, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions
And to be the type of impact players
we were talking about. You need to pitch more than 50 or so innings a year. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? You’re talking about things completely irrelevant to the discussion.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If closers have little impact...
Why do teams (even smart teams) pay so much for so little?
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 18, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
what "smart"
teams pay so much for them? The big market teams mostly do it to appease their fans. You don’t see the Rays, or A’s, or other “progressive” teams paying top dollar for closers.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Well...
I think you might be over simplifying the the Big Market aspect. The Red Sox tried the bullpen by committee route (2003), and paid heavily for it. I don’t think appeasing the fan base helps you win games, so that thought is overblown. The Rays are currently paying Soriano 7.25 million dollars this year. Their bullpen was atrocious last season, and although he is making quite a bit for a closer on a small market team, they needed to solidify the bullpen. Their bullpen went from a problem in 09’, to a strength in 10’. The results of which are shown in their record.
Some other well paid closers on small market clubs:
Joe Nathan 11.25 per year
Cordero 12 million per year
Wood 11 million this year
Hoffman 7.5 million this year
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 18, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The whole concept of "sure thing" baseball prospects is bogus....
Billy Beane, for example.
It very rarely, if ever, works out like it should. Hockey, basketball etc. you can generally trust scouting as to a particular person. Not here.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
this this this
which is why I’d much rather have 5-10 B/C+ prospects than 1 A+.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yep, that sounds right.
Oh uh, also, Lastings Milledge. Sorry, had to.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The saddest part...
Only Heyward was a first rounder out of that group. Stanton was a 2nd rounder and Johnson a 4th rounder.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe
the Mets passed over Stanton & the Marlins took him with the next pick.
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no Stanton went the pick before
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
good scouts i imagine
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
because they didn't see what we saw
he’s a winner. i can feel it.
also we have some sort of creepy obsession with large right handers.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
youre thinking of freeman i believe
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Ike Davis
1st round pick (18) 2008 draft.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Even among 1st round picks, the bust rate is still high.
And we usually don’t work with many 1st round picks, since we keep signing Type A free agents.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
But there's no way a first rounder
would have been more valuable than Moises Alou.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
or Oliver Perez
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yey for imitating the knicks
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Plus we keep trading the farm for veterans/soon-to-be-FA/injured players.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Not really
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
? Have we actually done that?
we really haven’t traded anyone away who hasn’t sucked (Santana trade excluded though they all sucked too)
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
That was under a different FO
If anything, aside from the Putz trade, Omar has been too protective of his prospects.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
not really
from what I understand most of the front office guys who were here for the Kazmir fiasco are still here. Not the scouts and stuff, Omar hired his own, but the random guys who no one really knows what they do, that the Wilpons keep around.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Like John Ricco
the man who traded for Frenchy
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sad that he's the "stats guy" of the organization.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's the stats guy
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
apparently he has no baseball background
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
He's not the Stats guy
the stats guy doesnt even have an office at Citi Field. He works for the Graduate Center CUNY and he only emails Omar.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes me sad.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah there's the problem
Alou hadn’t been healthy in like the 20 years prior to that. And we signed him before the Giants even had to offer him arbitration. There wasn’t really any reason to believe he was going to stay healthy.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I mean the man once tore his acl while rehabbing on the treadmill from
another injury. How do you even tear your acl on a treadmill.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
But I think he was like 30 when he did that.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like they'd ever use a first rounder to draft a college reliever
…..oh wait.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
because our organization is too stupid
to realize that if your ace is ready to go every 5 days you shouldn’t send an inferior pitcher out there instead.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Again, what does it matter
Takahashi still would’ve pitched tomorrow
And if you haven’t noticed, we’ve been shutout for 22 straight innings
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no they could have just skipped Tak-2's start
and gone to pelfey if he was ready to go tomorrow.
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Takahashi would've pitched Monday then
No matter how you arrange it, Takahashi still would’ve pitched in one of the three games.
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i like how pelf got the stiff neck from flying
and will fly again before his next start
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
what's the record # of innings for offensive incompetency?
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
barajas has been not hitting for years
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I think it's time we give Thole a chance against right-handers
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
yeah I don't get what they're waiting for
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I haven't seen a guy hold a glove on his hand like that since Abbott.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was
ball 4, but whatever.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
yeah, so he'd have no reason to complain if Jerry doesn't start him
the game is a lost cause.
oh who am I kidding Jerry isn’t this smart.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK
Nieve was pitching solid…fire that FUCKIN IDIOT NOW…in the middle of the game
Just got back from happy hour
this is really sad. See you all tomorrow
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
23 innings without a run
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That was useless
Who gets to mop up now?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
They need a second baseman
who can actually hit. Also, some help for the bench & another starter.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Some more bullpen help as well
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they don't need help for the bench
they need a manager competent enough to use it
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I don't even think
he’s getting fired. The Mets will play “meaningful games in September” & he’ll get an extension.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
plus he will finish top 3 in moty
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
If we don't make the playoffs, Jerry is gone
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i doubt it
if we’re in the hunt in September I bet they extend him. They extended Omar after 08 didn’t they?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
True
but the fanbase is going to want blood if we miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive year. In reality, Omar should go as well, but he would definitely use Jerry as a sacrificial lamb
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but i think a lot of the fanbase likes jerry
just like a lot of them like jeff
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I don't think anyone likes Jerry at this point
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If the Mets sucks, no one will like him
People might like him now because the Mets are/were doing relatively well
yeah but I don't think we're talking about if we suck
if we win 84-87 games and finish 2-3 games out.
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i think they'll be thrilled
it’s all about meaningful games in September.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If this happens
I lobby for a march on Citi Field in October. NO MORE MANUEL…NO MORE MINAYA!!!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
like the million met fan manny march?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Nah it'll be better than that.
I’m sure we’d have a lot of angry AA’ers on our side.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Fire Minaya
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Say bye bye to
Francoeur, Barajas, Cora, push Tak2 to the pen, acquire a solid starting pitcher and a second baseman and possibly a setup man. Oh and hire a manager with an IQ above 50.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
better owner, gm, manager, and medical staff
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so glad i didn't watch the 2nd inning of this game of this game
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
come on jerry
get yourself tossed!
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
radio guys said he came out about the hbp
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
wait a second this is a west coast game
any chance we hear Manuel was fired at 2 AM?
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no, they'd have to win for that to happen.
Ah…now I know why they aren’t scoring any runs!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
He’ll be our mngr for the rest of the season
Willie Randolph says Hi
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
We would be better off
I always liked Willie
Not really
He’s a clone of Jerry, except he hates all young players, and likes tipping caps and drinking champagne.
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Jerry doesn't seem to keen on young players either
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Willie would have played Jacobs for two and a half months before considering Ike
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Gotta go with my guys!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Jerry was given a choice
and I don’t think Willie would have been either
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We need to see if Mcphail thinks Francour is good and trade for one of there young pitchers
Supposedly he said everyone is available
The way I see it
the only way we get anything of use for Francoeur is by dealing him to KC. I’m sure Dayton Moore would be all over that.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
24 innings
This has to end sometime, doesn’ t it?
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we should score a run of the Diamondbacks BP
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez folks
this is one giant ball o’ suck. What the hell?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
are we going to match the Phillies streak of fail?
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They went 31 innings without scoring
and without a run in 48 of 49 innings
I can’t see us doing that
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Since June 1, Barajas is 15 for 85, 0 HR, 2 RBI
it is time to play thole
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Thankfully not
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Wow, Beltran completely misplayed that
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he played it thinking like the old beltran
but that speed is gone at least for now
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by Ballonthewall on Jul 17, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame that stupid outfield
cant they replace the damn sod. That field looks stupid.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
with no pressure on him valdes pitches pretty well
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you are joking, i trust
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by Ballonthewall on Jul 17, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
@testing@
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
ok
thanks
Jerry the Clown: available for birthdays, bar mitzvahs and unfortunately all Met games as well
VOLTRON!!!
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carlos!
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now that was impressive...you could tell he was running out of gas
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Ike!!!
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shocker
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I forgot what runs look like
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
For the third time,
TAKAHASHI WOULD STILL HAVE STARTED EITHER TOMORROW OR MONDAY
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Finally Runs
what the hell are Runs
The Mets have hit for the cycle...
Over the last 2 games. Yay
give him a break...he spanked it
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by Ballonthewall on Jul 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So Ike only believes in true outcomes
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
In his case two outcomes
strikeout or HR
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He has the eye to walk a lot more, but that is not translating to results so far.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
which is infuriating
considering no one’s giving him anything in the strike zone
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This
move him farther away from Frenchy
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by dcrockett17 on Jul 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides the Francoeur-infection in the lineup, either he is pressing to get hits or he doesn't trust anyone lower in the lineup.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Or he's a rookie who's just struggled to adjust to major league pitching
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It's weird.
He has a pretty good idea of the strike zone. He takes a pitch a just a bit outside the zone and then he swings at pitch 1 foot outside.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Why'd Ike have to go and kill the rally?
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
I can not wait for Castillo at this point
I don’t give a shit if he’s fat and can’t field, he at least gets on base more than once every 20 PA
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2 RBI total in June and July for Barajas
and zero HR
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He needs to
be put on the bench. I don’t care about his “veteran presence.”
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Nice
way to work the count after Ike's homer
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
@ Syler
When we get shut out tomorrow by Sanchez and Santana loses by giving up 1 run, you’ll see why Johan should’ve been the pitcher….
You can't just presume we would've won tonight with Santana on the mound
The issue is not what day Takahashi pitches, it’s that Takahashi is in our rotation at all
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um
his obp is 40 points lower his slugging is 30 points.
that’s more than a little.
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Ike's slugging is only 12 points lower
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huh
it’s .425 Heywards is .445, which is 20 but I was close.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
ESPN says .435 for Ike
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does that include todays game?
and what about when d is factored in?
by Mike Clemente on Jul 17, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
no these are offensive numbers
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Anyone have numbers on Ike in the past month?
I will say this. Not .435.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
.206/.268/.355
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ladies and Gentlemen...
Why a hot streak with a thin lineup is a very dangerous thing. Returns to the mean for a few guys bring about what we are seeing.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yep nothing is more dangerous
than a .500 team on a hot streak.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I was talking about the month of 18-8 when everyone was talking about Jerry's extension...
I kept saying “it won’t last, this is the 1989 team.” And lo verily, it came to pass. Just to explain, the 1989 team had a streak somewhere midseason where they were completely unbeatable. They went like 24-4 or something. Even Ron Darling was unhittable. After 1986 and their playoff loss in 1988 I thought they were going to come through again. Then they laid a giant egg and missed the playoffs, and then the Pirates were good, and then the Braves were good and next thing I know it’s 1998.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is when I learned what the old timers were talking about when the described the mid 70s.
And now I pass the message of sadness on to you, though I think you’ve learned it already.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
There were some good times between 1989-1998
David Cone for Jeff Kent
Bobby Bonilla
Vince Coleman
Carlos Baerga
Generation K
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Shhhhhhh!!!!
And don’t tell anyone that Jacobs has been tearing it up in AAA recently. Sadly, this is not a joke. Look at his last 3 or 4 weeks.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Mike Jacobs
I’d rather take my chances with Ike than someone I know is going to suck
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of course
too bad sarcasm font doesn’t work in subject line
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Braves fans who post on AA
are pleased about this
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
lol I was wondering
i figured you knew what slugging and obp are. And considering it’s the BBWA I would say no. Since they gave it to Braun over Tulo.
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yahoo and fangraphs say .445
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Heyward's OBP is significantly higher
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Ike hasn't been
as good. And besides, Garcia of St. Louis will be the ROY IMO.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
I know who will be ROY
It will be some asinine pick that the media will try and justify with some bullshit clubhouse presence. While we scratch our head
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
FRANCOEUR!
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Barajas to Valdes:
Please suck less, at least until somebody gets warm.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Did Manuel
double-switch?
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
I am sick of Tejada at this point
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Just got home
How’re we doing – Is Tak2 mowing them down?
Tak2 got obliterated
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Dude...
Don’t you know. Don’t ask, or Rohan will answer.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullpen suckage
S
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LOLpen returns
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Regression big time of late for Dessens
Problem is Jerry will never notice
Pagan gets to that :)
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I was thinking that
but I’m not 100 percent sure.
Beltran has been one step away twice now…maybe he gets to those later on this year?
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
that's what i was thinking too
my selective memory doesn’t remember seeing too many balls fall over his head before
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 17, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't remember many either
but he’s not far off. I think with a little more time he’s there
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
that's two tonight
He’ll get better, but damn that’s annoying
Nice dp by Bay
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
DP
gets us out of that nightmare inning
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yup
its quite obvious what Manuel has to do. But for some reason this team refuses to do it.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So....
Power, defense and calling a game aren’t baseball related.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
defense?
Barajas has thrown out less than 20% of running. Also he’s slugging like .420 at this point.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
no I overrated him
he’s slugging .410
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Lloyd Christmas...
Living up to the name. Sorry, too easy, had to. Once again, apologies.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Lloyd, your profile picture should be this:
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
actually this was my profile pic...
I like to change it up once in awhile.
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Tholes career minor league numbers and also scouting reports
He is a slap hitter with little to offer defensively.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/1/8/1240420/new-york-mets-top-20-prospects-for
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or he will be the next
Daniel Murphy
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by Lloyd Christmas on Jul 17, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd think a team struggling to get on base
would start a player batting .500 even in a tiny sample instead of another catcher who’s an automatic out.
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
Another hit for Thole
And yet, Rod Barajas will continue to get starts over him
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You mean Rohan
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Rodan?
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
No Rohan.
Ya know, AND ROHAN WILL ANSWER.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lord of the Rings.
Ya know, city with guys on horses. Like long walks on the beach, hate orcs.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all part of the plan
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
I'd eat my shoe
if we come back and win this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ymyiRXCszc
by secret defense on Jul 17, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
BBagan
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Normally,
it’s a good thing to have 2 on & no out. But since Alex Cora is batting, I doubt this ends well for the Mets.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
i bet he bunts
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Bunt triple play?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Jul 17, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I want a double play now
not 3 batters from now. That’s my stance
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
by isles732 on Jul 17, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How's the studying going, Mookie?
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Did corporations and partnerships today...
Funny how after forming and working with corps and partnerships for 5 years I never knew 90% of the useless crap you have to know.
But after 12 hours of that I come on here to bitch about baseball and feel better. Because I love all of you. :)
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
I can answer that one plainly. Especially because I’m already admitted in NY and I really don’t want to be a lawyer in FL. I’m taking this as a backup plan. A painful, painful, ugly backup plan.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as FL is a painful, painful ugly backup plan to NY
(sorry)
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Yeah.
I do like the Keys. Then again, I have a denture fetish sooo…
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually would have considered law
Except I’m the world’s slowest reader and would literally have to read all day and night to keep up in law school.
True
In legal practice too. I had a junior associate who was smart but a slow reader. He was basically unqualified for the job because of that. I felt really bad for him.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's actually one of the big reasons I'm considering it
because reading/comprehension is probably my biggest strength. I prefer maths but for some reason I’m one of those people that can state at 10+10 for an hour and end up getting 33.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Reading comprehension is my biggest strength as well
I’m an excellent reader, I pick up and remember details very well. Make connections many people miss. I just read really really slowly. The fact that I read so slowly is probably the reason I am a good reader though.
Hence, you are an AAer
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
yeah I put the slash to separate them
I meant I’m a really really fast reader.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
odd question but what type of law are you studying for either?
I’ve been thinking about possibly studying law for grad school instead of continuing with econ, is it all as awful as you say?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ummmm
Let’s talk some other time. I do have some strong opinions but I’m too exhausted. I think law school can be a great opportunity but you can’t do it for lack of other plans, or just to stay in school, or anything like that. If you go for the right reasons it can be great. I went for the wrong ones and ended up with $120k debt which meant big firm, which meant missing my 20s, which meant well, yeah, not good.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Studying for the bar...
…is no fun. Hey Mookie, didn’t you say once you went to Vandy?
by Come_On_I_Won_the_MVP_in_79. on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just graduated this year...
and studying for the NY bar. Seems like a small world.
by Come_On_I_Won_the_MVP_in_79. on Jul 17, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Shudda said hi to Julie Sandine for me.
You going to a firm in the city? What’s the plan?
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
Sandine’s a really nice lady. That’s the plan, yeah, starting in January. This test, though, first. Oh well.
by Come_On_I_Won_the_MVP_in_79. on Jul 17, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad you missed Bob Rasmussen.
Great prof. Dean of USC law now. Got a slightly deferred start date? Welcome to Biglaw my man. It was oddly one of the best times of my life. If you ever need any advice find me on here.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Will do...
appreciate that. And although I did miss Rasmussen slightly, one of my favorite profs was his wife, Rebecca Brown. But then she left too…
by Come_On_I_Won_the_MVP_in_79. on Jul 17, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew her too.
Used to hang out with her kids in Italy. You know Paul Edelman, speaking of married profs? Loved that guy.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, knew who he was.
But never had him. Didn’t teach the subjects that were really up my alley. So are you practicing in NY now?
by Come_On_I_Won_the_MVP_in_79. on Jul 17, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Did for 5 years.
Then burnt out and moved to the Keys. Loans are almost all paid off. I don’t things in NY will be as stressful for you as they were in my day. The boom times are over. Also, I was the one associate at a large firm who did what I did so I rarely had a weekend.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 18, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Unassisted triple play
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
AHH JUSTIN TURNER!
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Turner batting!
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
That was quick
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 17, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
SBagan
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
And my fantasy team gets another boost!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok...answer me this...
How did that SB make any fucking sense whatsoever?
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Jerry Manuel
nothing he does ever makes sense.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I can
Jerry’s dumbassness actually paid off…if we werent down 6
I doubt Jerry called that
he’s not that dumb.
Well he is, but I think that was all Pagan.
"Rib Eye Steak"
Drink!
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Thole tags from 3rd on foul pop to Sandoval
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Huff has taken away extras from Beltran and Bay
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Huff has been doing some of this
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Just getting into this show
Thanks to Comedy Central’s 2 hour happy hour on Mondays. It’s better than I thought it would be. Very funny.
I would watch with my roommates at school.
Literally pooed the bed laughing
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Always Sunny In Philadelphia
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Great show
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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6
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Jul 17, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
did u expect different?
I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.
Beltran gets on...ike pops another and we are only down by two
I can hope can’t i
At least Perez realizes he sucks
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its not so much he sucks so bad we have to play him
its just our GM sucks so bad that he gave him a completely insane contract so we are forced to play him to get any value out of that contract
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wha?
You don’t think it’s reasonable to give $36 million to a guy who no one else even made an offer for?
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Hold one let me channel my inner Steve Phillips.....
DUH!!! Bidding against yourself is always the way to pay players DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now where are the ESPN interns?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Takahashi
is not this bad. He was probably throwing too many strikes tonight. Plus SF probably BABIPed like .500 tonight against him. I don’t think he’s great but he is just not nearly this bad.
Erm, he's been this bad virtually his entire time as a starter
He is like batting practice for right handers
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Why are we all still torturing ourselves
Oh yeah…we are Mets fans…forgot, it’s what we do
Six runs and we got this, right?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
That would be how the math works out.
Speaking of math, can anyone complete this series: 6, 3,1, 2, 0, 3, 0, 0, __.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
All I know is what 8008 spells on a calculator
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
Yes, yes, find one, yes!
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
20 pitch inning for K-Rod
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
...
“He needs work” will be the explanation Jerry gives
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Then he gives him work for two unnecessary games in a row
and when we need him he is burned out
so since this game is basically done
I’d like to say that dragon age is both the best and worst game I’ve played in 2010.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I wasn't here though
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
What don't you like about it?
I played about 3 hours of it and just got bored
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I'm curious as to why it's the worst?
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 17, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the battle system is really confusing to begin with
the economy is pretty unbalanced, or at least for like the first 10-12 levels. The leveling up tree is completely unforgiving to newbies, you basically have to start planning from the very beginning or you’ll end up screwing yourself over. The quest seem to drag on and get tedious and boring. It’s hard to keep the side quests and quests organized, and a lot of them take too long and are a bit tedious themselves and involve too much traveling around IMO. And even though you can tackle the quest in any order the game still feels incredibly linear.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I LIKE IKE!
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Yeah
Who doesn't like solo HRs when down by 5 in the bottom of the 8th
by MookieTheCat on Jul 17, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ike just killed any chance we have
damn you
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
wow
way to kill the rally before it even starts
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I should suggest sending Ike to the minors some more
On a unrelated note did anyone see this story by Ted Berg?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
I did. I really liked it.
I love Tedquarters
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
damn now im bummed
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
That story is depressing.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Oh Rod
You’re doing such an awesome job of proving you shouldn’t be on this roster
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There are enough douches on this Giants team to keep an entire female prison fresh for a year
by lstorie1971 on Jul 17, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No you know why Ike hasnt played well
he was bummed out by Ted Berg
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I got pissed off when I couldn't find a job right out of grad school.
Couldn’t imagine dedicating that much time to something and then not have it work out.
Didn't know he had 6hbp
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I wish him all the best
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
chris carter is yelling at people on the base paths
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Use subject line so people can collapse the picture
And try and make the picture smaller insert height=300 between “img” and “src”
Ballgame
God we suck.
Well it’s up to Johan to salvage this shitfest of a series…
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well that sucked
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This should be the Mets new slogan.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy
am I glad I stayed up to watch this game
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
At least
I’m enjoying my Newcastle Brown Ale
When asked Thursday if he had entered the World Cup pool, Carter said: "No. I need to hit more home runs."
We need vintage Johan tomorrow.
Thank god that game will be early tomorrow, so I don’t have to stay up to lose again
Hopefull
Frenchy will start tomorrow, so his smile can electrify the lineup
by aparkermarshall on Jul 17, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
This team
is really really good
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 17, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions
Nah he's going to get some rest
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Hmm
I am so pleased with Takahashi. We definitely don't need another starter.
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There is no way he makes his next start
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That
is not at all depressing
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Myers has been pretty damn good this year
Of course, he’s a wife beating douchebag redneck, but I’ll take what we can get at this point
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Then he would be perfect for the Wall Backman All Star Team I am assembling...
Dennis Potvin would be the honorary ex-Islander.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 18, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
No he was a boxer.
1-0 vs his wife.
by Juve1899 on Jul 18, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't condone violence against women but...
rec’d.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yep OIllie will be back by then
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ugh, can we please get another starter?
This is why I’m pushing so hard for Roy Oswalt (or even Brett Myers). Prospects come and go, but I can’t bear seeing Takahashi start anymore. Plus, you never know when the other shoe might drop with RA Dickey. I hope Omar is working around the clock to make something happen.
Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.
And today's outlining is done.
Time for drinkering.
About the Ted Berg article.
You know what? It’s bullshit. You know what former ballplayers do when they are washed up? Become normal people. Get normal jobs. Go back to school. I used to feel sorry for them, but then I realized that a guy who never got past the minors still got to play baseball for a living for a period, rather that drive a truck, or sit in an office, or work at Target. Is it sad that dreams don’t come true, but how many astronauts do you see? Better question: how many people wash out of college, or law school, or medical school, or engineering school, or the military? I would wager that a lot of these folks would rather have played ball in their 20s.
You have a point there.
Professional sports = meritocracy. There are plenty of industries where talented people don’t get the recognition they deserve.
But if you're a ball player
and you have what it takes to play professionally, you’re going to play professionally.
Agree.
I’m a lawyer and to think about the legal profession the way he thinks about baseball, you’re a failure if you don’t become an appellate judge or a partner in a big law firm making tons of money. It’s just not the way the world works. Now Adam Greenberg, who saw one major league pitch and was permanently injured by it—that’s a sad story.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 18, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick Evans????
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You want to see something really sad?
Read this guy’s story, from the comments in the Ted Berg story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Greenberg_(baseball)
by MookieTheCat on Jul 18, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah when the career is ended by things outside of someone's control it's sad.
I played against Adam in high school a few times, and he was an outstanding athlete. It’s a shame that things happened like they did.
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