Open Thread: Mets vs Giants, 7/18/2010
by Eric Simon on Jul 18, 2010 3:46 PM EDT
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So
Dear Mets,
For the preservation of my sanity, please win today. I really don’t care how ugly it is.
Thanks
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Johan will pitch seven shutout innings for the win!
And begin the dominant second half everyone expects him to have.
Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.
problem is Jerry will take him out in 0-0 tie
Then Put in Nieve to blow it
Not only does Justin Turner start
but Manuel bats him second. Jerrybot says 2nd baseman MUST BAT SECOND.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
He thinks rest of lineup is all hitting well including Bay and
Don"t want to mess them up
Gary missed a big pun opportunity
should’ve said “Mets will try to seal a victory today.”
Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.
Hey guys, the G-men really need this sweep today to keep pace with the Padres
How well has Johan been pitching lately?
Set a record by getting banned for the 8th time!
After rehab I saw the light and promise to be kinder and gentler!
Probation is a very slippery slope!
Well
but the Mets are barely hitting so you guys should get the sweep.
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you're only allowed to use G-Men when referring to football
"The one thing you don't want to do is hit a home run. That's a rally-killer." -Jeff Francoeur
by RangersandMets on Jul 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
another good start for the Mets
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing
1-2-3 top of the first.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they'd stop saying Sanchez and Perez are anything alike.
If you’ve got to include them in the same sentence, it should be “Oliver Perez is a poor poor man’s version of Jonathan Sanchez.”
Actually
Ollie Perez is a rich man’s version of Sanchez since he’s making 12 million a year.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They should never say that because
if we can’t hit an Ollie Clone they need to replace the team
LOLcoeur
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Francoeur
is a gold glover in RF
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
well
this is going well
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Sac fly
So we will need to score today
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This has been
a great inning for Jeff Francoeur
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Francoeur finally caused a run to be scored.
Sadly, the Giants scored it.
Franceour will destroy this second half
Pagan is the better player and should play
by skater242 on Jul 18, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
jerry hinted that jeff will no longer be a platoon and pagan will get the full time role...
let’s see if he sticks to it
by Mike Clemente on Jul 18, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Off Topic:
Roy Oswalt left his start today with an injury after taking a line drive by Pedro Alvarez off his ankle. They are saying it’s a left ankle contusion.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
where my Extra Innings cable subscribers at?
Anyone else not getting the game?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
nice if
there was a number one could call to inquire. or any customer service to speak of.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 18, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, Ike hit that well
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Damn you Pat Burrell
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
well hell
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Sigh
Bay can’t do anything well right now
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Yeah Francoeur
lets just swing at everything now that Bay was picked off.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
Hmm, more success when he wasn't swinging at everything
Gee, I wonder why?
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I'm convinced that this series is my fault.
I moved from SF two months ago. If I still lived there, I’d be at every single game this series. The Mets are 11-1 when I see them in person
im convinced its your fault too
damn you.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You bastard.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
you better get yourself back to San Francisco
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Slingbox
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Less suck Santana
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On top of this wonderful beginning,
I just read Thole will catch Dickey then head back to the minors. Ugh.
That
is a very smart idea
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
who are they calling up?
Ollie
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
by secret defense on Jul 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
The Mets need Barajas' bat to power them through this slump
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be stupid
They need the energy generated by his lack of base-clogging
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And
his stellar defense behind the plate
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
wow I misread this
and thought it said Dickey to the minors.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
No, Jerry will wait until Ollie is ready...
to make that move and keep his managerial brilliance streak going.
No fat pride for Uribe??
Or pouring some pancake batter on the curb for a fallen comrade (Benji Molina)?
K
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KK
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KK
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
And my fantasy team is happy.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
KKK
Don’t remember the last time Johan struck out the side
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no we don't
have enough offense
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"We've got enough offense"
Are you fucking serious Keith???
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Thole is not ready to step into a significant role
as Blanco takes a wild swing at pitch 3 feet out of the zone.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
eh at the plate thole probably won't be much better than Blanco
Blanco just can’t handle a catchers load…or even half of it.
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He would be much better than Barajas
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yeah I know I'm saying Blanco isn't who he should replace
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Thats an improvement of tejada at least
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He can't be any worse than Cora or Tejada have been
I mean, he’s still not an adequate 2B, but he figures to be a massive upgrade offensively over those two
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Alright we got a runner on base!
Now it's time for our slugger Santana to hit!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
1 out BB
I’d let Johan swing
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
PAGAN!!!!!
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Yay
RUNS!!! and my fantasy team rejoices again!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
i dont understand
why is there a number one next to the mets name on the scoreboard?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Some sort of witchcraft?
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yur kind a kute
I.M. Forme
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by itsmetsforme on Jul 18, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The scoreboard felt sympathy for us
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It'll be removed soon
The referee from Mali is waving it off
by James Kannengieser on Jul 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
KKKK
Moar
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Finally
I can settle in and watch this game. Howzit, all?
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
DUBS!!!!!!!!!
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DUBS
See YA
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
Nah
More like shallow left field power. I’ll take warning track power at this point.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Devoid of power
he has become the Bay of Fundys
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by CTRefJay on Jul 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is in rare form today, and I love it.
Pour me some coffee, Janice!
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
we do know how he feels about women working…….
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Francoeur
is the greatest baseball player ever
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
.............
I wonder if Francoeur ever thinks to himself “Hmm, perhaps I shouldn’t swing at pitches near my feet”
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poor Blanco
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wat up guys ?
We have runz ?
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jul 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
we haz 2 runz
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Leadoff BB
Bad Johan, bad!
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So
could you tell me the winning lottery numbers?
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Johan, dubs and pagan!
a winning formula
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Good thing Sandoval plays in San Francisco
four words: panda hats in Miami
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Gees line Today against Brave Farm team
Gee (W, 9-5) 8.0 3 1 1 1 8 0
The Question I got is don't we have any starter other than Ollie
that is good enough to put Tak2 back in bullpen
i would try misch or gee
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I don't think Misch is the answer either
He just doesn’t miss enough bats to be successful in the majors.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he can give us enough for a few starts
i dont see how someone can be so consistent in AAA and then be terrible in the majors
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I saw enough of Misch last year to last me a lifetime
I would try Gee, or acquire another starter as soon as possible
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Gee should in Tak2 place
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a good line
the only problem is that he’s been so inconsistent this year. I think I’d give him a shot though.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Inconsistancy has been a HR streak but Citi could take care of it
In AL I wouldn’t try too many bandboxes
santana giving frenchy and barajas a clinic in hitting
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Dear Giants
your outfield looks like shit. That is all.
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
Escobar hits GS for Jays
Gonzales goes 0-4 with 1K and 5 LOB. In a win. He must have Frenchy’s esprit de corps.
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nice
I bet Geddy loves Gonzales, he has so many RBIZZZ.
by secret defense on Jul 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
and homers!!!
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But Gonzalez is such a great clubhouse presence!
I mean doesn’t that make up for the fact that he can’t hit?
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plus escobar was a bad influence
who cares if he was younger and better
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Escobar's Grand Slam
Don’t the Blue Jays only get credit for 3 runs because Atlanta fans don’t like his attitude?
by GoReyesGo on Jul 18, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt being injured
pretty much makes us a lock to trade for him.
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by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
there goes wilmer and mejia
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
TRAID FOR OSWALT
Mejia, F-Mart, Nieuwenheis and Familia
Get it doen!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not enough
and Wilmer and Havens
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
True
if they want Niese and Davis, they can have them too as long as we get back Carlos Lee and that winnery winner Pedro Feliz.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You think we can get Lee with THAT?
We need to sweeten the deal…..add that loser Jose Reyes
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maybe if we add in that bum beltran they will give us berkman too
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
yeah he smiles too much
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah and not
the good kind of Jeff Francoeur grissiony, beard shaving, strong arm bad defense, no walks smile.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
how come when we take flyers on guys
it’s always guys who have sucked for years, and rarely guys like Huff who were really good then really bad.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
thats not completely true
dont you remember kelvim escobar, he was really good then really badly injured
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I still like that move
Too bad it didn’t work out
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
i didnt mind it
i thought we gave him too much and too soon. he had barely thrown in winter ball and apparently that ended up screwing him
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Has anyone heard anything New on Mejia's injury or is it Day to day
Which in Mets terms means next yr
Last I heard
he was pain-free and was going to resume throwing soon
by EricAColucci on Jul 18, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
same here
but alas we got Frenchy instead.
once again a flyer on a guy who’s sucked for years rather than being really good then really bad.
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so
my man wayne hagin says frenchy’s golden arm didn’t come through in the first inning. this true or he lying again?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
nice hustle, Bay
Frenchy would have done it with more panache, though
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
and a smile.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...infield single for Bay
that's totally worth 68 million dollars over 4 years!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
You give me a man who hits 300 infield singles a year
and damn straight i will.
Or alternatively,
80 million for 5. Hooray!
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combacker and strikeout
Dentcoeur’s hot streak has to be right around the corner…just you wait
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Oh man
I saw that last year! Hilarious.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
mmm...
Chipotle ad in the background.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
There are no words left
Francoeur simply does not deserve to start for an MLB team. Ever. And it appears Jerrybot is finally realizing that
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better late never
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Jerrybot gets software updates
he will never realize this.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
There is hope
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this part is sad because it is true
It might be unpopular
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
this part is really sad because it is true
Castillo’s return will load up Mets’ lineup
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
i dont get it
isnt frenchy supposed to be able to kill lefties? or something like that
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Maybe Hojo
needs to do that “swing at everything” drill again with Jeff.
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FranKoeur!
Who wants to switch their cell phone service to Metro PCS to celebrate?
they should just attach a shock collar
and every time he swings at a pitch out of the zone shock him.
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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Why is the count always 0-2 on Francoeur?
Totally useless
by skater242 on Jul 18, 2010 5:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
taking pitches is for losers
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
do we even have a back up 3rd basemen
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
We have some guy named Nick Evans
….oh wait.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He's catching today's game.
since evans is back in binghamton.
Wright got hit in the knee by a line drive
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You should have just hit the homer Burrel
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alex cora
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
thank you for reminding me of him
i cant believe i just said that. still, he hasnt played 3B in a few years
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
good thing nick evans is still on the team
by Mike Clemente on Jul 18, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This guy
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
bring thole in to catch and move blanco to 3rd
i sorta just wanna see it instead of seeing Cora play 3rd.
if we are going to let blanco play the infield for laughs
i want him at SS or 2B
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
lololol
“Hey Hernandez, we keepin you awake?!”
by James Kannengieser on Jul 18, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Bad play by Turner
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TRAID Turner
to Atlanta.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
I've always heard that McCann guy's got a bad attitude...
Better unload him, Atlanta.
by EricAColucci on Jul 18, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOO
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mets-perez
this is awesome
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
Oh the humanity...
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This too
Mets’ manager Jerry Manuel made it clear that Perez would pitch out of the bullpen and confirmed that left-hander Hisanori Takahashi would make his scheduled start on Thursday in Los Angeles.
Damn.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Hopefully we make a move for someone before then
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Not really,
I just don’t want Tak starting anymore.
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Be thankful
if you don’t live in Connecticut and are subjected to Bob’s of Milford (car dealer) ads
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
so if we hold on
this will make 3 turns through the rotation in which johan is the only winna! not that niese and dickey have been bad
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/6943/manuel-castillo-returns-monday
so we need to send 2 guys down, Thole is catching Dickey Tuesday so who will be sent down, Valdes and turner?
Probably
Castillo would slot in for Turner(should be Cora, but whatever) & Perez will take over for Valdes
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Hey Ollie...
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haha rec'd
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic, from toby hyde
3B Jefry Marte was 3-4 and is now up to .328/.368/.594 in July.
nice
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Certainly good news
hopefully he can keep it up and start next year in St Lucie.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see why Johan was ticked after that called strike
It’s seemed like Sanchez got a lot more of the corners today than he did.
I agree with you 100%
but he’s not helping his cause
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Wow, a lead
I’m flummoxed.
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Me thinks David should get the night off tomorrow
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do we have a back up 3rd basemen?
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IDK
Can Turner play 3rd?
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He played 7 games
there for Baltimore last season.
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What's the deal with Wright's knee?
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Burrell hit a smash
Wright didn’t react in time, right off the kneecap
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Pat Burrell
you sumunumbidge
you fargin’ eyesole
you coke sucker
IT’S FARGIN’ WAR!!!!!!
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the espn metsblog article was mentioned, but i dont get this
Manuel suggested continuity is important in order to get players going such as Angel Pagan.
pagan has been like the only player going
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Think nothing of it
He mumbles a lot of nonsensical crap
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Manuel must have lost a bet
so he had to use the word continuity seven times during the interview, or something.
99 pitches through 7 but a 1-2-3 7th
keep him in?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
mistermet says yes
Jerrybot says no. Must go to the bullpen at 100 pitches.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with yall
and i think if he is unscathed in the 8th then he should finish the game because it will be the bottom of the lineup coming up, but i bet krod needs work
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
He got work
yesterday. If the Mets have the lead in the 9th, Manuel will put him in
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o i couldnt stand to watch the end of that game
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I've got to see it
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Did'nt he get hurt legging it out?
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha I thought I saw some pigs flying!
I also felt the ground shake a little bit. That’s awesome.
On another note, the PBP guy with the lisp is horrible!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
1 game out of a playoff spot if we win
with 3 vs. D-Backs. Plus, 7 straight in August against current last place teams.
I’d be content.
We just need to be healthy
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Reyes
is back tomorrow right?
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So sayeth the team
I’ll just wait to see him batting lead off thanks. :)
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yes
Mets haven’t played an inning against Pittsburgh, Houston or Arizona yet. Braves have.
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Braves have playes 17 GAMES against those teams.
Absurd.
by freakystyley on Jul 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like they played chicago a lot too
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Although...
it does seem like we have our share of trouble with Pittsburgh and Houston especially from time to time.
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we had winning records against both of them last year
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but I think it will be different this year, since in past years we played teams of their ilk earlier in the season, when they still had hope. Facing them later in the season may help make it easier to win against them
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+1
we’re not done yet
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
were we seriously going to move wright to short?
do we want to kill him?
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2b for Turner
I’d be surprised if Ray pitches to David
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Looked like the ball bit Burrell when he went to pick it up.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Time for Bay
to gidp.
Seriously, I’m beginning to hate the guy.
Maybe
Jason Bay will have an XBH here.
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i think you forgot the sarcastic font
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I was hoping
he’d do something good. Unsurprisingly, he didn’t.
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just messing around
AA needs to start a war on canada
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I hate Bay so much
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by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ike
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rocks
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Trayd Ike
He clearly sucks!
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on a less good note
wayne made it sound like wright was in pain there?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
We don't have such a great track record with bruises
See Beltran, Carlos and Castillo, Luis.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way Frenchy can get on base
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yelp from Frenchy
that hurt.
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But it was a grissiony yelp!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It was indeed
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that was gritty
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Ouch.
I felt bad for Frenchy on that pitch.
The OBP goes up!!
“Moneyball gurus, how ya like me now?!”
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this bautista guy must be trying to help the mets
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
could have used a ph here
just me speaking though
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
They kinda didn't look like pros Keith
I could be wrong but…
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Actually...
he looks like he should be a friggin’ stud.
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I imagine he'll
pinch hit in the 9th
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Hey if Thole pich hits there and breaks the gm open, then Santan can bat and get a CG
or u can just have blanco fail, PH for Santana and have BB-Rod blow the gm, whatever
That boat in McCovey Cove or the Mets offense? You choose.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
if ike davis finishes the year leading rookies in homers and rbis
how bad would his rate stats have to be for the BBWA to not give him serious consideration for ROY?
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is his name heyward or strasburg? no
so he wont win
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
i know he has been good
but msm doesnt. heyward and ike are really close except obp
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
this
and msm loves rbis and homers.
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stands for rib eye steak i'm told
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compare jaime garcia and niese
they are pretty similar too. garcia has given up only 2 HR so far to Niese 9
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
niese has a better walk rate and similar k rate
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
yep
they’ve moved on to Strasburg
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That Kirk Gibson...
My God he’s grissiony. He’s got Burkhardt lobbying for him.
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This is totally random and possibly whiny
but has anyone else seen fangraphs trade values list? How is Wright not in the top ten?
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that whole list was weird
almost nobody was going to be traded anyway
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
yeah it's not an idea of who is going to be traded away but their value
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seems like a waste of time
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Fangraphs said they were wary of his "inconsistency in skills"
Which I guess means the strikeouts
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Yeah which is hilarious
considering it’s a site dedicated to promoting advanced metrics.
I was mostly weirded out by the fact 34 year old Utley was in the top ten.
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And Ryan Zimmerman was 10 spots ahead of Wright.
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LOL,
Cameron loves Zimmerman. But I’m more offended he has Cano ahead of David.
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Cano's gonna be a batting champ
in 13 years
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utley is 34 already? lol
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
No offense Gary but when your team is 5.5 back and in 3rd place
let’s not thrown around the term “awful” too much about other teams.
We're 5 games over
It’s OK for us to refer to the DBacks as awful
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Yeah, Arizona really is awful. The Mets are not.
And he’s also a commentator, not a member of the team.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen them play? they are awful
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
but the grission man
the grission
the gibber himself
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No
Jerrybot must go to closer in 9th. Save situation. 17.5 million dollar option.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus K-rod needs his work
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by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
KKKKKK
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Burrell all in the umpire's face
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i think 115 pitches is enough
but johan could also rip through the rest of the lineup
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
OK
I’ll take it. Nice job, Johan – let’s not fuck it up
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0-2 fastball...
He is one player I can say I legitimately hate
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I'll always remember Mota as part of the Gastank Gang of the 2007 bullpen.
And Willie’s stubborn reluctance to stay the fuck away from him.
mota is a pussy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx5JKbOzOko
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
love that he threw the glove, though.
Hilarious
part of why he is a pussy
also, he just keeps running away
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
it takes 5 dodgers to hold back mikey!
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Mota throwing his glove
like a bitch.
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piazza looks like a fighter right there!
and the end of the video is great with that intense, ‘i hate you’ look
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Wait what was the Harvard story?
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Stanford's founder was originally wishing to donate $ to Harvard
The Crimson refused his donation, and Mr. Stanford vowed to start a Harvard of the West.
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If Krod blows this save
I’m heading out to Arizona.
KRod, please make this a nice and easy inning
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I see
Clubhouse leader showed great leadership by going 0/3 today.
Bring back Nick Evans
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Throw strikes
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You know he's walking KFP
so, the inning won’t really start until then
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Great. Walk the guy with the .326 OBP
great work, BB-Rod
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pablo is the biggest threat he will have to face
and much better than that OBP
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Lennon:
As @joelsherman1 once said upon a K-Rod appearance, “To save time, let’s just start with the bases loaded and one out.”
well u asked for it Jerry u get what u ask for
stupid stupid stupid
That wasn't surprising
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MY FUCKING GOD.
THIS GUY IS A PIECE OF SHIT.
Was that a fastball?
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this
isn't like K-rod
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Oh great
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bochy sending a guy up there to bunt? ~hagin
that would be a page right out of jerrys book
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
In Jerry's mind...
Cruising Johan < Frankie Rodriguez
finished games, not saves either
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Pitch count,
not that it makes any more sense that way.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the giants manager
wants to make sure we know who the worse manager is
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Fanfuckingtastic
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They're really bunting?
LOL Bochy(full disclosure, I know Jerry would do the exact same thing)
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hey krod
Fuck you
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jul 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i dont get the pinch running here
pablo is at second already and batter is up there to bunt and pablo isnt the tying run, i guess thank you?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
It makes less sense
considering Bochy sac’ed the runner over to 3rd anyways.
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yeah thats what i mean
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
wow
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AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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OMG I LOVE THIS TEAM
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we couldn't make these things up
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Jerry's gonna call in Nieve
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no ejection
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What happened?
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nothing really
ump missed an obvious strike. then got steamed at people in the mets dugout
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Wait,
what the hell is going on?
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Nope, he's still in.
Cuzzi’s got a cut of the vesting option too.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
ha rec'd
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
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frankie's 9ths
are always dull
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way 2 go
bb-rod
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I HATE YOU K-ROD I HATE YOU
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FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
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Another fucking fastball right down broadway
ahead in the count
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game over?
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Not yet.
But it will be since Jerry won’t pull Frankie…
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
so what is up with K-rod
his defensive independent numbers are great. But he’s giving up crazy amounts of hits, and most of them aren’t bloopers.
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.
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by Lance Johnson on Jul 18, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
FRENCHY'S ARM SAVED THE GAME
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that guy is the best player on the team!
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Laughable....fucking laughable.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Jul 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions
Fuck you Frankie
Fuck you Manuel.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions
The only out he got
was a sac bunt
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even an average runner beats that out too
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This motherfucker
is gonna blow the game.
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and get a game finished
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thats a joke, right?
he cant have his option vest for losing it
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
omar is a dumbass
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
yep it doesn't matter if he loses the game
game finished in any game he’s our last pitcher to appear.
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Serenity now . . . serenity now . . . serenity now
HOOOOOCHIE MAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frankie is just not a great closer.
I’m even wondering whether he is a good closer. GC was infuritating me again as usual.
hey krod
Fuck you
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I am officially on the KRod Sucks bandwagon
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it's weird
his defensive independent stats are great. But he’s giving up insane amounts of hits, and they’re not bloopers, or bad defense.
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Lower fastball velocity
He’s throwing more strikes, but he’s getting hit a lot harder
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we should only let K-rod pitch the 9th at home
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out at home!
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LOL
he was so safe
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lol this is the best ninth inning ever
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an out call at home doesn't make up for a called strike
also I check on MLB gameday and it was very close (the 2nd pitch to Ishikawa) and I think it was a hair outside.
has cuzzy been drinking?
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TRAID DAVID WRONG
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by firejerrynow on Jul 18, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he would have scored
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this shit is hilarious
i still cant believe that he gave up a hit to Uribe tere… fact is there is no way we win this game
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
This inning
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
This is like watching someone kick a dog
Unpleasant
inning gets more fun
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Are you kidding me??????
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WTF
How could the 3rd base ump make that call?
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a fair ball
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um...
what the hell?
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does anyone understand what's going on?
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just time for huff to hit it out
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Umpire fail
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another overturned ump call by a guy far from the play
awesome
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
so was that a make up cal
for the make up call for the bad call?
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i kinda have stopped letting it affect me
almost enjoy the losses so at least jerry is gone
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
nope we'll finish with 85 wins
4 games back of the wc and Jerry will get an extension
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its an incompetent call making up for the incompetent call
which was making up for the incompetent bating of krod
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Wait, what is happening?
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we don't know
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Really Bad Umpiring
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone think the wilpons will protest this game if we lose?
because I’d like to hear the leagues explanation for this madness.
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Hey as long as we play meaningful games in September
the Wilpons are happy.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And so the ump keeps us in the game
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and gave them extra swings to win it
i’d say we evened out
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good grief
that was weird
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blow rod shaping up to be my least favorite omar signing
only the metz could sign a top of the market closer they didn’t really need, watch their injured closer go on to success with their eternal rivals, and then realize the guy they signed was a turd. add another “lights on” closer to the pile.
I.M. Forme
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honestly,
bay and krod for lee would have been great.
this is fucking atrocious.
Frankie is not even a particularly good closer
which is an overrated role anyway. Keith was going on about how he thrives on getting in trouble. No he’s just not that good.
yeah it would have been great
seattle would have laughed at us
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i know bay has full no trade
i only imagine krod does too
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
beides the point
but he wanted to go to seattle i think he grew up in BC. he would most likely waive it. nonetheless, Jack Z would never take on those bad contracts
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i think i would add in minor league talent if someone would take bays
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
lol wtf frankie add much?
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Holy awfulness!
You know the Mets will pull this one out in extra innings!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
Ike's good on D
So we gave up 2 runs. SF has more reason to complain about the umps. That run would have won it for them
If we had Delgado or Jacobs at 1st
that’s the ballgame right there.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pull the plug!!!
The Mets are a vegetable. Just end this. Have some mercy.
Extra innings
somehow
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
He'll probably
stay out there IMO.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
hey krod
Fuck you
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Jul 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
K-Rod's Vesting option
looks so good
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
at least today wont count towards it
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
.
Not as good as Cora's Vesting option
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this shouldn't be sarcasm
i’d much rather cora’s option vest than frankie’s
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
i love
the human element
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
trying to find a positive here
we get more baseball
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Over/Under how many pitches Mets batters see this inning:
10.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Jul 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
unless Thole pinch hits
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
what is Johan's record?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If we could score and let him finish games
He would be 10-5
He threw 115 pitches today
He isn’t exactly Halladay, so I can’t blame Jerry for bringing in Suck-Rod
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115 was enough
but at the same time, he wasnt really sweating hard out there
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Still
KRod is paid $13 million to get 3 outs. 3 miserable outs, and he can’t do it.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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Alright!
Captain Fastball to the rescue.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
Sort of unrelated....
I’m pretty sure Jerry only said that little bit about Thole taking ground balls at 1st after he looked at how the Giants mis-managed the Posey-Molina situation so far this year
Keith just made the weirdest noise
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
Then he was making a bunch of ruffling noises
what was he doing?
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
snorting
of course
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 18, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
if it gets that far
there is no excuse to NOT ph for frenchy, right?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
unfair
the metz couldn’t get a hit off of this brian wilson , shown demonstrating his circle change:
I.M. Forme
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by itsmetsforme on Jul 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dammit
Not only did that hurt the Mets, but also my fantasy team…I have both Frankie and Johan on my team and am currently down by 1 win and 1 save.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions
I will
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Only you can save us now Ike Skywalker
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
bay
literally hits balls harder than anybody else… why in the hell cant he get any lift on them?
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
i think it has to do with his top hand. he does a good job hitting line drives.
he stays on top of the ball well.
justin turner
is not clutch
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
bay is a professional
singles hitter
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
TRAID JASON BAY
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
bright side
k-rod didn’t get a game finished
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I LIKE IKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ike
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IKE!!!!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions
Doesn't this idiot realize
that his little rattail mohawk-mullet puts him in Kenny Powers territory?
Ike Davis is a manimal
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Ike!!!!!!!!
And Bobby Parnell to show K Rod how to fucking do it.
m'yeah
just a tad.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
honestly...
i wish we got the homer to give parns even more leeway
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
You don't trust Frenchy
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
In play, runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
this is gonna be a joke
frenchy against wilson.
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
KRod better not come back in
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Parnell sitting down?
Jerry, you fucking moron, do not send Frankie back out there.
IKE!
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
i am sure beltran can play 1 frigging inning jerry
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
and please tell me you are kidding about letting krod keep pitch
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
FUCK YOU JERRRY!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Frenchy out on 3 pitches
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HEY!!!
one of those was definitely not a strike.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
frankie is coming back in... wow
and frenchys on base is down to like 296… how does this guy play?
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
with grit and heart
you just don’t get it
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Ask GeddyLeeisGod
he seems to know. But I think hes waiting for instructions from WFAN
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Um why is Parnell sitting down?????
holy fuck. If K-rod comes in and reblows it. I’m burning things.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
That was awesome
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I would laugh if he somehow blew
two saves in 1 game
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If they bring Frankie out again
I will be most disappointed
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
There is nothing I like about Jeff Francoeur
I’m actually starting to really really really hate him. Not just the player, but hate him personally.
Yeah because someone playing like him should act a little like something is wrong -
not just keep smiling all the time.
Or when he said
That it’s a tough decision who plays when Beltran returns, because no one has “flat out sucked.”
He better not
come back out there(K-Rod)
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Why not Beltran?
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
does he have a slider?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
frenchy cant hit a fastball
why is this relavent
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I hope Parnell was just warm and ready to go...
but I fear we’re gonna see K-Rod
Good grief
k-rod is gonna try harder this time
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
good thing K-rod has another chance
for that game finished
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
K-Rod blowing 2 saves in one game...
….love to see Jerry explain that one in post game.
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Jul 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
One out
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Oh great
K-Rod is still in there
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Oh shit
Burrell.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
whew
scratch that.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No matter what, this feels like a loss.
But I’d gladly take 2nd place if the Cubbies can win tonight.
K-Rod's gonna vulture a W
This another reason why pitcher W-L is so stupid. It should be Santana’s win. Why not?
the mets feel comfortable
calling on Francisco Rodriguez for the two inning save. That’s rugged.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
One more out
I hate you Frankie
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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Johan
is dying just a little inside
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Can't blame him
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no save
he’s the pitcher of record. just a win if they win
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
but probably just a loss
and one blown save
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a win.
"It ain't going to be pretty. No fine is going to be big enough. No suspension is going to be long enough." ~Gary Sheffield
by Lance Johnson on Jul 18, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And game finished
We’re gonna be stuck with him for a while
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
is running Frankie out there the ultimate Sabermetrics move?
because it’s not likely he mucks up twice in a row in the same game.
Fucking K-Rod will get the win
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Finally have access to a computer.
and I just want to say……
!#$% @#$%^ @#$%^& !#$%^ @#$%^
One day, this team is going to kill me.
ollie and frenchy are just the rocks in the pocket of a drowning franchise
krod is the anchor tied around its ankle
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
Meh
krod is frustrating, but has generally been effective. the other two are not even replacement level.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
i still think
demoralizing and expensive are pertinent qualities in a goat.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Jul 18, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
4.
all of the above
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily for us,
this is Renteria up instead of Panda. Thanks Bochy
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Jinx
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That's my fault
Apologies
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
mets shit list
1) tie – jerry manuel, jeff francouer, and suck-rod
2) tie – cora, bay
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
current players only*
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Hey Bay did score the go ahead run,
cut him some slack for a few minutes.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
one run tonight doesnt make up for a season of shit in my mind
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
I know the power has been nonexistant, but he's still not anywhere near Cora status.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 18, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
for his contract and option
it makes them pretty close
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
i wouldnt put bay
anwhere near them he pisses me off, but he has provided some value
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Frankie is determined to blow it again
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That's for Keith and GC acting like the W was in the bag.
Of course it can’t be a 1-2-3 inning
Int. BB the winning run...
Jerryball!!!!
Lets make this interesting
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
Wait, what are we doing?
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They carry over, you know
Outs, I mean. To the next game. Right?
I was kidding
should have used a different font
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Gahhh
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Jerryball
is brilliant
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Ahahahaha!
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
another inning of baseball?
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
You're putting the winning
run on-base? God almighty
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
this is the battle of God awful managing
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
dont underestimate bochy
he bunted with 1 and 2 nobody out too. course he didnt use the only hitter remaining in the lineup to do it
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
you know
it really, really is
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
JerryBall vs BochyBall
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not Jerry's fault
after Bochy pulled Pablo he had no choice but to go big to counter. They’re clearly deeply engaged in their own contest.
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eject K-Rod
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by firejerrynow on Jul 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what K-Rod's WHIP is but
he seems to allow 2 or 3 runners every outing. He’s just not that good.
and its nuts
his peripherals look great
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Jul 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Because in frankie's case
his hits aren’t bloopers or bad luck. he’s giving up legit hits and his defensive independent stats just aren’t properly reflective of whats going in with him.
In frankie’s case not looking at WHIP gives you a distorted view.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
only because it was 4.8 in April
since then it’s been 17.1, 18.4 and 26.7
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
It's his best since 06
but for a reliever that’s REALLY high
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
before tonight
He allowed 6 in 2 innings tonight I think
This ump is squeezing him
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well krod is at 45 pitches
so we wont have to see this ass for a few days
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
65 the past 2 days
He’ll be out for a few days
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
No.
He needs the work
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
um...
how did that miss?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I think it was outside by a smidgen
wilson didnt get a couple of those
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
im going to assume that was the whole camera angle thing
cause that literally looked right down the plate
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
K rod hates Saves. He craves Wins.
He’s on his own fantasy team.
PIItB
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Phil Cuzzy is the anti-Joe West
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
i truly never saw that coming
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
WE WON!!!!!!!!
I don’t care how ugly or stupid it was, we didn’t get swept!
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Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus
worst win of the season.
YES
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
I think the term "relief"
is a bit of an oxymoron.
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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
finally
that’s the most unsatisfying win ever.
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Win is a win
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And that's it
K-Rod gets the “win”
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break up the mets!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
i feel like this game isnt actually over
like krod blew it and we should play an 11th
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
TRAID K-ROD
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
actually, Trade BB-Rod
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 18, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Tons-Of-Hits-Rod
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
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i wonder how many giants fans
were saying they deserved to lose because of the idiocy of Bochy.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If this game went on past 8
would they have had to black out the game because ESPN would have the exclusive rights
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think so
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this sucks
i cant even hope krod is injured or something because we got no one else anyway, he isnt even our worst reliever
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Jerry Manuel and Bruce Bochy
really managed well today
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
It's impossible to tell which one is dumber
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I was sure it was Bochy
until the IBB of the winning run
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I might actually take Jerry
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We've won our last four Sunday games
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Lost in all of the KRod-Jerry-umpire bonanza...
Francoeur went 0-4 with 3 Ks, and now has a .679 OPS
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by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but Geddy says you've gotta look past the stats
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by firejerrynow on Jul 18, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Clubhouse leadership
"we believe in comebacks"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Man the high walls at telephone park
make citifield’s look tiny by comparison
by aparkermarshall on Jul 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
to account for the jet stream
otherwise, it would play like “Wrigley 2” to the third power
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
He's dead to me
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