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Mets 4, Giants 3: Rodriguez Blows It, Davis Wins It

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Johan Santana was excellent for eight innings, and was undone by one lousy inning from Framcisco Rodriguez. Ike Davis drove in Jason Bay with the go-ahead run in the tenth and, that time, Rodriguez was able to hang on to the lead. With it the Mets salvaged a win from the four-game series with San Francisco and set off for a series in Arizona.

Poem by Howard Megdal

Masterful Johan, but K-Rod faltered
A sure Giant victory is umpire-altered
Cuzzi makes calls that both sides dislike
Mets saved in the tenth by a doubling Ike

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Win Probability Added

Big winners: Ike Davis, +49.2% WPA, Johan Santana, +43.5% WPA
Big losers: Francisco Rodriguez, -23.3% WPA, Henry Blanco, -10.5% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Davis RBI double in tenth, +40.7% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Ishikawa two-run single in ninth, -35.3% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +20.2% WPA
Total batter WPA: +29.8% WPA
GWRBI!: Ike Davis

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by astromets; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 astromets 87
2 Gina 85
3 CTRefJay 72
4 Syler 67
5 mistermet 65
6 Jadden Hopkins 58
7 Brian. 51
8 lefty vs lefty 46
9 dcrockett17 44
10 TWilliAM 44

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The first time I went to the circus I hated it

It was just too much to watch, too much going on all at once. This game had that feel. Between Jerry being Jerry, eye-goungingly bad umpiring, Bochy being Jerry, and K-Rod morphing into Mota, it was like a three ring circus.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 18, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I looked up from my books at Gamecase and saw G. Mota...

Then I looked up and saw runs had been scored. I made absolutely the wrong assumption.

Why does OBP-Rod hate us so much?

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate KRod

He is such a stupid pitcher……hmm, guy with a .326 OBP? Let’s walk him! We have an 0-2 pitch on a guy with little plate discipline?? Fat fastball down the middle!

This win feels strange and somewhat undeserved, but I’ll take it. Hopefully we can begin to salvage the trip in Arizona.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I love ripping Frankie, especially on Twitter, but coming into today, his FIP and tERA were both under 3. Hard to complain about that.

His contract still stinks though. Hes not worth ~$12M+ per, and that $17.5M vesting option in 2012 is really illogical.

by nmigliore on Jul 18, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He isn't having a bad season per se

but the guy is not a dominant closer at all. He puts a baserunner on basically every time he pitches (I think there was a stat that out of 33 outings, he’s only had 11 1-2-3 innings)

KRod is still a good pitcher, but I’m not sure how long that will last, given his declining velocity.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"out of 33 outings, he’s only had 11 1-2-3 innings"

which is almost exactly what you’d expect from a pitcher with an excellent .300 OBP against.

by Jack Str on Jul 18, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think very few closers would be called dominant by these parameters

Outside of Mo, it seems that every closer likes to play with fire. Just today we had Jenks taken out in the 9th and Broxton blow a save. That’s not to say that K-Rod doesn’t have me reaching for the Pepto Bismol most times out, but he’s no different than almost anyone else, and quite a bit better than most.

by dcmetsfan on Jul 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

People wouldn't have an issue with KRod if he were making $5 or $6 million

But the guy is making $13 million a year, with a horrifying $17.5 million vest at the tail end of the deal.

It also doesn’t help that his velocity is the worst of his career, something that only figures to get worse.

Guys like Broxton, Soria, Bell are making about a 3rd of that.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree that his salary is absurd

But his actual performance has been very good this year. I guess we’re talking about 2 different issues: his value versus other closers, and his value against other closers given his salary.

by dcmetsfan on Jul 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction:

he’s making $12.3 million a year with a $14 million vest at the end.

by alexSVK on Jul 19, 2010 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

what do you mean it’s 14 million because of the buy out clause?

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 19, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh that's not really true

like 10-11 closers have better numbers, even defensive independent numbers, than K-rod. And like 50+ relievers have better WHIPS, which would directly account for base runners.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

K-rods always had MUCH MUCH higher WHIP totals

than most other players considered great closers/elite relievers

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

10-11 closers

and like 20+ relievers

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And KRod's WHIP is that high, even with him having much better control this season

Imagine if he goes on one of those wild streaks, which we all know can happen.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate in no particular order

That Santana needs to pitch a CG every outing in order to get a win
An overpaid “closer” who really does suck and has 2 yrs left on his contract
That when Reyes is out, we can expect no producation from the middle infield
We can expect even less production out of our Catcher than our MI
That Francour hasn’t worked the count in his favor in 3 yrs
Jerry costing us games all year, not PH Thole with the basesloaded for Blanco
That we all are still expecting Bay to break out of his power slump this year

by TheKid08 on Jul 19, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You missed one...

I noticed it on Gamecast.

Jerry intentionally walking the winning run on base in the 10th while his pitcher was getting shelled.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

feel bad for Johan

he has had 6 outings this season that he has given up 1 or less runs to get a ND, he could easily be 13-5

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 19, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, we've got a young, good to great infield

a fine young Pagan, and if Dickey is having the late breakout of a solid knuckleball pitcher, 4 good pitchers for the next few years. Things are not so bad in metsville.

by SuperT on Jul 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problems, as always

are complementary/bench players (though Pagan is becoming our answer to Jayson Werth), bullpen, and management.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Framscisco?

http://www.doublebobbyjones.com/ -Double Bobby Jones: a Mets blog

by metsguy234 on Jul 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

This site has been beating the "K-Rod's having a great season" drum

and it’s been baffling me to no end. He flirts with disaster EACH and every time he’s on the mound. Sometimes he narrowly escapes, sometimes he doesn’t, but it’s never easy. And there’s always a chance for an out-and-out disaster like today.

K-Rod is not a good closer.

He’s an overpaid bum whose best days are and forever will be down in Anaheim.

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

again, where are you getting your information on what this site says

most people have been cursing k-rod throughout the season. until today, syler was one of the few people defending him. his peripherals are ok but he is not well liked

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not well-liked at all, you're right, but...

there was an article a few days ago on how he’s having one of his best statistical seasons yet…I’ll try and find it. I’m not saying whoever wrote the article is stupid, I’m just saying K-Rod is nowhere near dominant, and he’s incapable of saving a game without giving people cardiac arrest.

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it might have been me, i remember that

he is having one of his better statistical seasons, he is just not getting the job done and definitely not well liked on this site

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's actually not having a bad season.

I think it was James Cannon-Geyser who did a post last year regarding perception vs. reality. Without looking at stats, he listed players he thought did bad in games he had seen. He then checked the stats from said games and found that his perceptions were often wrong.

Before today, BB-Ref has Frankie with a 2.40 ERA (a wonderful 169 ERA+) with 55 K and 17 BB in 45 innings. That’s a K:BB ratio of about 3:1. In his 62 SV season with LA, it was 77:34 (or, just over 2:1).

http://www.doublebobbyjones.com/ -Double Bobby Jones: a Mets blog

by metsguy234 on Jul 18, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine being in the sportsbook at Mandalay Bay

and having a shit ton of money on this game. I don’t think the winnings will cover my cartiologist.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 18, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, can someone please "Tonya-Harding" Frenchy?

Or should I refer to it as “Nancy Kerrigan” instead?

whatever it is….I want this smiley-faced turd out of baseball NOW.

by BrockRocks on Jul 18, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

since krod is not 'closer' material

how about we start using our relievers when they are rested and needed, whoever is the best man for the job comes in. like pedro faces lefties. valdes faces lefties and isnt forgotten about. dessens comes in with bases empty. parnell and krod face the better righties and tougher parts of the lineup. nieve stays in the doghouse unless we are losing bad. am i missing someone?

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

JerryBot does not compute

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Best part of that...

“Physical memory dump complete”

I think that sums up a few people on the coaching and training staff.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dessens?

The only valuable thing he does is affirming Jerry’s stupidity

I do agree that KRod should get less of a workload; he’s been worked harder than practically any closer in baseball, and it would serve the team well if Parnell got a few save chances.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jerry has proven anything

it’s that he will pitch to the save rule at ALL TIMES. Parnell isn’t getting any save opportunities unless frankie pitches 32 games in a row

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could totally see him doing that

Jerry: “Get Krod up”

Bullpen coach: “He’s not available”

Jerry: “Fuck you mean he’s not available?”

Bullpen coach: “He’s pitched 50 games in a row. There are no ligaments left in his arm.”

Jerry: “Blah, blah, blah. GET HIS ASS UP NOW”

Bullpen coach: “Sir, his arm is bleeding, I think he’s going to die”

Jerry: “Oh for the love of…. do you want me to cut you with my gangsta blade?”

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Soto HR

Cubs 2, Phillies 0

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 18, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

hehe jerry

<img src="http://www.bronxbrasstacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jerry-manuel-baseball-demotivational1.jpghttp://www.bronxbrasstacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jerry-manuel-baseball-demotivational1.jpg"/>

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

.

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that pic

"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-0 Cubs

Looks like we may get back into 2nd

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

aramis ramirez

plays great d at 3B

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 18, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric

you should have stopped at “Rodriguez Blows”

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone get a determination on the call by the 3rd base ump

when he called the play dead? That was the third oddest call of the inning.

by Shivling on Jul 18, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

According to the post game

the third base ump claimed he saw the ball hit the batter in the batters box. These guys pull stuff blindly out of their rear ends so much it is ridiculous. The ball was not even close to him.

by Bruce Wayne on Jul 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

and how can he overrule the home plate ump

and first base ump. I think the only explanation is that Cozzie or w/e his name is was drunk so he was willing to defer.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umpires make dumb calls all the time

Things like this tend to even out over a given season. We’ve lost so many gut-wrenching games on the road this season…today, we managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but there's not much to feel good about today.

This team has lost five games to .500 in a very short period time. It’s starting to feel a little bit like ’09 … on 6/10/09 the Mets were five games over at 31-26 … 30 days later they were five games under at 40-45. This season is starting to have that same sort of vibe, from where I sit.

by KranepoolRools on Jul 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, today was a hideous game, but things are already much better than last year

We didn’t reach our 49th win last year until July 30th…..we were 49-51 at that point, and it took a 7 game winning streak to get there.

Now, I don’t know what’s going to happen for the rest of this season. But I can pretty assuredly guess that what happened last season is not going to repeat itself, primarily because we’re a way better and healthier team.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right.

Nobody knows what tomorrow may bring …

by KranepoolRools on Jul 18, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The silver lining

Rarely does one game so exemplify the stupidity of using wins as a meaningful measure of pitcher value. Santana throws eight strong innings – no win. K-Rod blows the lead, is fortunate to have the team score the next half inning – win. There are few things more infuriating in baseball than the vulture win.

by dcmetsfan on Jul 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Like a walkoff walk?

2010: Year of the Grission

In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!

by R_Adragna on Jul 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see your walkoff walk

and raise you a walk off error.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't the guy who had the recent walk off balk

balk with someone who no one would ever think would steal a base on? Like an Adam Dunn type or something.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walk off hit by pitch

thank you Sean Green

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 19, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walk off wild pitch

thank you Fernando Nieve.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 19, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

walk off triple play

thank you, Frenchy

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 19, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

that doesnt count

he is not an actual baseball

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

player*

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...

He hit the ball on the screws. Wow, now you guys are trying to find fault with line drives off Francoeur’s bat. He has no control over where the line drive goes, he absolutely did his job by hitting it hard.

Don’t like the facts? Tough. Get over it.

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 19, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of line drives

Francoeur has the fourth lowest LD% in baseball this year at 14%. Adding to the evidence that he is terrible at baseball.

by Evan_S on Jul 20, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Infuriating in the sense of karmic justice

As for walk-off errors (per Gina below), all I’d say is I’d be pretty miffed at Alex Rios were I a ChiSox fan right about now. What in the hell was that?

by dcmetsfan on Jul 18, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just checking in

to see what some of the intelligent fan base had to say about today’s game.

You did not disappoint.

Beyond bizarre is my official description.

by MetsFan4Decades on Jul 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

this one did not deserve a put it in the books (and did not get one since Howie was off). more like a take the gift and get the heck out of town.

by Endys Game on Jul 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, we won.

This surprises me.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 18, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Me neither.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 18, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how teams like the Twins , Nationals, and Marlins

Can get a guys like Jon Rauch. Matt Capps, or Leo Nunez, pay them a small, small fraction of K-Rod’s salary, and he’ll still do the job every bit as well (and probably better). Sometimes the biggest name and the biggest bucks don’t guarantee shit.

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

minus the "a"

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should have gone after Capps during the off-season.

Not that I don’t want K-Rod, but he could have only helped the team. He would have solidified the bullpen, giving us a “solid” set-up guy, for as much as teams need one, and the success that he’s having this season (0.5 WAR, 3.68 FIP) would have been our success. And, he was available for practically nothing.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We actually did go after Capps

We were one of the finalists, but he wanted a chance to close. something he never would’ve done here

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't particularly remember the Mets making much of a push for him

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 18, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the link

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4769951

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, fuck him, then.

Closing games < Being on a winning ballclub like the Mets, right? Right?

Yeah…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 19, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or just kept Putz

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 18, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't his option really expensive?

Especially for a guy coming off surgery? I can’t go crazy about the Mets not pulling the trigger there, even though he’s been good for the White Sox..

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

second place here we come

"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are in worlds of trouble

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad that they haven't figured out

Dick Torino is NOT a lead-off hitter.

2010: Year of the Grission

In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!

by R_Adragna on Jul 18, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't bury the Phillies yet, no matter how much I want to

but this doesn’t look like their year at all. In fact, it looks like some of Amaro’s dumber contracts are finally coming back to haunt him. I like when justice is served, especially at the expense of the Phillies!

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, especially if they get hot and make another run

deep into the playoffs, like Wild Card teams are known to do…ugh..

Yes, I like Jeff Francoeur and listen to WFAN. No, I am not a troll.

by GeddyLeeIsGod on Jul 18, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As we saw last season, the Phillies are very well set-up for

short series. Like Lee last year, Halladay can pitch them games 1, 4, and 7.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 18, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You keep making statement like this...

You will be out of the doghouse in no time.:)

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the bottom of the 9th inning, Mets lead 3-1

One out, runners on 2nd and 3rd, KRod throws a 1-0 pitch that’s called a ball. KRod gets angry, Blanco turns around to face ump, ump makes gesture that appears as if he’s thrown someone out, when he didn’t.

Fast forward, to game being tied, runners on 2nd and 3rd, one out. A slow roller is hit to Wright, the runner comes home, Wright throws to the plate, but the throw is high. Runner is easily safe, but inexplicably, he gets called out.

Then with two outs, Huff hits a squibbler in front of plate, Blanco throws him out at 1st, but it’s overturned by 3rd base umpire for no apparent reason.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 19, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what I saw on the Thursday and Friday games,

the umpiring crew was very bad this series.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 19, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed
the umpiring crew was in baseball has been very bad this series century.

by Evan_S on Jul 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad umpiring is just part of baseball...

Always has been, always will be. And I’m very much against any sort of instant replay. It’s not like football where 2 or 3 bad pass interference calls over the course of a season make a huge difference. In a 162 game season the good and bad calls tend to net out, unless of course you are the guy who got his perfect game negged, but that’s a special case. It’s not that good teams get fewer bad calls, it’s just that when you’re up by a lot bad calls don’t matter as much as when you’re scratching for every lead and every run, and in a 5-team race for the wildcard.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would much rather all calls are correct

then some right and some wrong so that it hopefully evens out. its not like replay would take time out of the game, and this game is a game of delays so some instant replay would not slow it down either.

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 19, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

well right now i cant watch any

but what point you trying to make? its slowed down even more than NL. if done right, almost all plays could be determined within a minute

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 19, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I just like the human factor...

There’s something to be said for it. I guess I’m old in my approach, but I think the tendency that everything has to be RIGHT kind of goes against the spirit of the game. The argument about timing isn’t something I really care about.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 19, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

if your team lost the WS

because of a call that could have been easily overturned in one second, and half the people in the stadium saw differently than the one ump, would you still enjoy the human element?

as a mets fan, i fear this will happen on the last play of a WS-not unlike the cardinals who got screwed but still could have won

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 19, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easily fixable...

just get rid of the DH. Duh.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 19, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed
the umpiring crew was in baseball has been very bad this series century.

by Evan_S on Jul 19, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

ROBBED!

Meh though. I will only be upset if we lose the wild card by one game at the end of the season.

"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald

by joe579 on Jul 19, 2010 7:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Deja vou all over again...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankie's (and/or Blanco) pitch selection was terrible yesterday:

Sandoval: 8 fastballs in a row = walk
Uribe: 3 more fastballs = single
Ishikawa: change, fastball, fastball, change, fastball = single
Torres: 1 fastball = double

Against Uribe and Torres, the fastball was middle-middle of the plate. His decreasing fastball velocity might make the errors more costly, but it wasn’t just that. The pitch selection and location/control were awful.

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Jul 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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