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Mets 6, Dodgers 1: Jason Bay Totally Redeems Himself

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After Ike Davis hit a go-ahead solo homer in the second inning, Jason Bay quieted the haterz (for one night at least), with a three-run dagger double in the eighth inning. He was 2-4 on the night and also made a brilliant catch to rob Jamey Carroll of extra bases, crashing Rowand style into the Dodger Stadium left field wall. I generally don't buy into the "turning point game" type of stuff, but hopefully this can ignite Bay.

Johan Santana threw 74 strikes out of 98 pitches, giving up just one run on five hits in seven strong innings. His K:BB ratio was 4:1 -- good, not great. The swinging strikes weren't there but pounding the strike zone can compensate for that. Johan threw 22 first pitch strikes to 27 batters, a welcome sight for fans and fielders. This is anecdotal, but when you throw strikes, fielders are more alert and ready to make plays. In addition to Bay, Angel Pagan also made a great catch in the outfield. And he would have gunned down Russell Martin at home plate in the fifth inning if Henry Blanco handled the throw. Pagan > Jeff Francoeur in right field.

Jerry Manuel was ejected in the second inning for arguing a missed call at first base by Doug Eddings. Methinks Jerry was still calling the shots from the clubhouse post-ejection, as three batter Pagan dropped down a sac bunt with runners on first and second and none out in the eighth inning. Oh Jerry, [expletives deleted].

Speaking of terrible managers, Joe Torre's eighth inning bullpen management was something to behold. He burned through four relievers after Vicente Padilla completed seven innings of one run ball (needing just 77 pitches). Jeff Weaver, James McDonald, Jack Taschner and Travis Schlichting walked four, struck out one and gave up four runs in their combined two innings of work. The excellent Dodgers blog Memories of Kevin Malone provides a picture of Torre during one of his many mound visits:

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In contrast with the Dodgers' relief corps, Bobby Parnell and Francisco Rodriguez were brilliant -- two innings, no hits, no runs, no walks, three strikeouts. Captain Fastball was dealing in the 96-97 mph range and Frankie needed just eight pitches in his one inning stint.

David Wright is 6-34 with 12 strikeouts since the All Star break. Whatever, slumps happen, even to the best. However, an off day might be in order. He hasn't had one since May 19th. Until the Mets adjust their bench of two catchers, two corner outfielders and one middle infielder, only Alex Cora could reasonably spell David at third base. Cor-ugh in the lineup is always a bad thing, but a day of rest for the team's best player would be a fair trade-off. Mike Hessman or Nick Evans should be on the roster. Remember when Jerry said resting his regular players would be a priority? So much for that. All talk, little action, much like Francoeur and his annual declaration that he'll "mix in 50 or 60 walks". (Sorry to pick on Frenchy but it came to mind when thinking about Jerry's hollow statements.)

This was a therapeutic win. Bay busted out, the defense was superb and Johan earned his paycheck. Mike Pelfrey faces Carlos Monasterios Saturday afternoon at 4:10 PM. The game will sadly be broadcast on FOX.

Unintentionally sexual quote of the game: "Pitchers never get the best wood." -- Gary Cohen, after Padilla had his bat shattered

Poem by Howard Megdal

Is this where Jason Bay starts to go right?
Return of the bat that has been out of sight?
He also hit two home runs against the Yanks
But 0-fers and paychecks have been what he banks
Still hoping he'll pan out, that today's the day
We can celebrate the delayed arrival of Bay

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Big winners: Johan Santana +33.1% (as pitcher), Luis Castillo +13.6%
Big losers: Angel Pagan -9.5%, David Wright -6.8%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Ike Davis solo homer +10.6%
Teh sux0rest play: Russell Martin +8.5%
Total pitcher WPA: +34.8%
Total batter WPA: +15.2%
GWRBI!: Ike Davis

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by blueandorange4life; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 blueandorange4life 115
2 the caveman 100
3 CTRefJay 73
4 Gina 68
5 MookieTheCat 66
6 Syler 61
7 TMS 58
8 lstorie1971 58
9 dcrockett17 55
10 TheKid08 51

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Bay traded his face for RBI.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Jul 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

That was a man-ish play.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Jul 24, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take it

No pain no gain

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitchers never get the best wood.

Sheesh Gary.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Jerry Manuel is telling that umpire to go to his room.

by nmigliore on Jul 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I know what Bay was up to...

Having a week-early celebration of the August Civic Holiday (an actual Canadian holiday).

http://gocanada.about.com/od/canadatravelplanner/a/canada_holidays.htm

by MookieTheCat on Jul 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Manuel tossed early
rest of game, enjoyable
confirms what we knew

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

aw crap

I meant to use Jerry
it’s late
I’m tired

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haiku is the truth...

Funny how within 5 or 6 innings of his absence…

We score as many in an inning as we have scored in a game in nearly 3 weeks.

by MookieTheCat on Jul 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It appears June was an anomaly for Santana

April: 30 innings, 28 strikeouts, 9 walks
May: 41 innings, 26 strikeouts, 10 walks
June: 32 innings, 12 strikeouts, 14 walks
July: 38 innings, 26 strikeouts, 10 walks

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny how quietly

consistency can be

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Jul 24, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huge win for you guys

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 24, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I seriously read "pennant bunt"

God Jerry is terrible.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 24, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem has been offense

Which I didn’t expect to be the Mets’ biggest problem going into the season. Pitching has been pretty great.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 24, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well most teams have offensive problems

when their offensive joke of a manager has his hot hitting #3 hitter bunting with runners on base.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 24, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Epic sexual quote of the game

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Jul 24, 2010 1:37 AM EDT reply actions  

SportsCenter

Gave Jason top play.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Jul 24, 2010 2:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

About Pagan's bunt:

I don’t think it was that bad. From The Book: “With a runner on first or first and second, and no outs, late in the game, with the infield playing up, all but the best hitters can bunt.” Pagan is also fast, which makes the bunt attempt better. With a good hitter, the defense would hopefully be back. One of the problems with Jerry’s bunting is how obvious it is, which hurts the chances of getting on base off of a sacrifice attempt. Perhaps the worst part though is the next sentence: “Early in the game, if the infield is expecting a bunt, only the weakest hitters should bunt; if the infield is not expecting a bunt, any batter can bunt.” Too often Jerry is bunting early in the game and far too obviously.

by EtSuKe on Jul 24, 2010 2:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

but Pagan has been the best met hitter recently

I support Jenrry Mejia as a starter. Screw you Jerry Manuel for thinking he's a set-up man.

by EMSfan9 on Jul 24, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's batting third

So while Pagan isn’t Albert Pujols, in this lineup he basically is. Give your 2nd best hitter a chance to break it open with an extra base hit.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 24, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it worth trying to break the game open against playing it conservative for the insurance run?

Tremendous speed on the bases and your best run producer on deck make it a reasonable play.

It also didn’t keep us from blowing the game open once we had the run in hand.

I deplore Jerry’s bunting as much as the next guy, but this was a reasonable situation to use it.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 24, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your 3-4-5 batters are coming up with 1st and 2nd, none out

If it was the lower part of the order, I see the argument for it. But in this case, let him hit. There’s no guarantee Pagan gets the bunt down to begin with. And a Wright hit would score speedy Reyes from 2nd base anyway, should Pagan pop-out or strike out. Giving away your 3 batter’s at-bat for the possibility that Wright might be afforded a sac fly opportunity, and also 2 RBI on a base hit I guess, doesn’t seem like a worthwhile trade-off. The fact that it all worked out splendidly makes it look less terrible, I think.

by James Kannengieser on Jul 24, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not unreasonable and normally, I would agree.

But with the way we have been struggling to produce runs though, I wanted to manufacture that run to give K-Rod (who scares the living shit out of me and every other Met fan lately) a cushion.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 24, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would imagine part of the reason we've struggled offensively lately

is our insistence on giving away outs in the batters box and on the base paths.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's odd

because if you believe in “clutch,” as I’d imagine most will bunt fetishes do, why are you setting people up to hit with outs? It’s a percentage play, and the percentages are not in its favor.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

"fetishists"

I’m fortunate, in that I don’t spend a lot of time typing that word.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or it could be the fact that we are just not hitting

The team’s struggles have nothing to do with bunting.

I don’t like the bunt in any other situation than where it was used last night – to get the insurance run late. The fact of the matter is, it worked, process be damned.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 24, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because it's the 3 hitter doesn't make it wrong.

Better hitters have better sacrifice bunt attempt outcomes. You could also argue that the Mets are playing in a low scoring environment, making the bunt a better strategy. I wouldn’t have bunted, but this was a very minor strategy mistake.

by EtSuKe on Jul 24, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume the "low scoring environment" you're referring to is the Mets' lineup?

A manager makes thousands of minor strategic moves during a season. Jerry routinely gets them wrong and the overall cost becomes enormous. That’s the problem people have with this kind of thing.

by Jack Str on Jul 24, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad Bay had a great game

Hopefully he builds off of it. That catch he made was top 5 of the year for us.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Jul 24, 2010 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Isnt Monasterios our rule 5 pick?

Guess Dodgers have pitching depth problems of their own

by viktor06 on Jul 24, 2010 3:32 AM EDT reply actions  

one game does not give a reedamable return for Bay

but it’s a start.

and yup, Monasterios was a Mets R V pick, they sold him for cash to the Dodgers. which makes me wonder, if C. Monasterios didn’t make it, what happens to the cash, do the Mets return the cash to the Dodgers?

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jul 24, 2010 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I know this is cherry picking to the extreme

but, if you take away the game in Philly and his last 4 June starts, Johan is 7-1, 1.36, 82-32 K/BB ratio on the year.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 24, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Dear Jason Bay,

I’ve refrained from saying bad things about you all year. Please go on that tear we’ve all been waiting for.

Love,

Me

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 24, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

You're like the anti-GeddyLeeIsGod

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Jul 24, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

im game

i’ll start the flame.

Rush in my opinion-sucks.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK!!

Blah, blah, blah Alex Lifeson, blah, blah, blah, I prefer Led Zeppelin, blah, blah, blah Cannibal Corpse, blah, blah, blah I’m cooler than you because I listen to Tim Hecker, blah, blah, blah Beatles.

We're done. Back to beisbol.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huey Lewis FTW

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 24, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only listen to their early stuff

before they went commercial — ruined them. Like Toto. I only like their early krautrock phase.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

A masterful way to continue to talk about music, but keep the conversation centered on Sports.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you like Phil Collins?

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved American Psycho -

but how much of it was he just imagining?

by TMS on Jul 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooooh

Now I get it. I’ve never read that book, nor have I seen the movie.

by tmu on Jul 24, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome movie

Awesomer book. The movie is PG by comparison.

by dcmetsfan on Jul 24, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was gonna go slayer but

you got the jist

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rocks!

imho

Your mileage may vary.

blurgh! - me

by blains2000 on Jul 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry gets tossed.

The team wins.

Coincidence ?.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it a coincidence that when Jerry Manuel is tossed, we finally score some runs?

Just a question, Joe Janish, just asking. Not reflecting my personal opinion, of course.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 24, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Jauss

I’m impressed with jauss; he got bay to hit and field after jerry’s ejection

by ILikeIke#29 on Jul 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

no dont be fooled

we need TIM TUFFFLE!!!!!!

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a related note

it appears a certain Jason Bay “hater” met his fate. None too soon, either.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Banhammer?

we all fear it on the webs.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

who dat ?.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Jul 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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