Dodgers 3, Mets 2: At Least It Wasn't Twenty Innings
by James Kannengieser on Jul 24, 2010 8:32 PM EDT
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The Mets lost a 13-inning game in walk-off fashion, as Oliver Perez allowed a solo home run in the thirteenth inning to James Loney. And the very expensive, very available relief ace Francisco Rodriguez did not make an appearance. This is Amazin' Avenue, discussing Jerry Manuel's bullpen management:
Until terrible pitchers Elmer Dessens and Oliver Perez pitched in the twelfth and thirteenth innings, the bullpen did a fine job in relief of a mediocre Mike Pelfrey. Unfortunately, the Mets' lineup was dormant, save a two run explosion in the sixth inning. Jason Bay was on base three times and Angel Pagan stole two bases, but besides that there wasn't much offensive excitement. Here are some other things I hated about this game:
- Jerry called for an intentional walk to Garret Anderson. Gar-out is sporting a comical .491 OPS this season, lower than GMJ's before the Mets cut him. And Jerry wanted to put him on base without putting up a fight. The context of the move is irrelevant -- the Mets intentionally walked Garret Anderson. That's all that needs to be said.
- Total pitches seen by Luis Castillo, Pagan and David Wright in the twelfth inning against the underwhelming Jeff Weaver: five.
- Total pitches seen by Carlos Beltran, Ike Davis and Bay in the thirteenth inning against the dreadful George Sherrill: nine. Seriously, Sherrill has a 6.29 FIP this year and the Mets made him look like Hong-Chih Kuo.
- David is seemingly standing farther away from the plate than ever before. He can't make solid contact on any pitch on the outside corner.
- Alex Cora pinch-hit and flied out weakly to center. Just 24 more games played until his 2011 option vests.
- Ollie's continued presence on the roster is baffling. He is throwing 88 mph meatballs out of the bullpen. DFA him. Move on. Call up Dillon Gee or someone else who hasn't yet had a sufficient chance in MLB.
- Not specific to this game, but that makes twelve walk-off losses for the Mets this season, or one out of every four losses.
To counteract the negativity, I'll point out that Raul Valdes is doing a fine job. He tossed two scoreless innings today, striking out two and walking one. He boasts a 44:17 K:BB ratio and has been effective in multiple inning stints this week. Who knows how long it will last, but the 32 year-old from the Mexican League has done well for himself and his team.
Rod Barajas pulled up lame after an RBI single in the sixth, due to an oblique strain. This is bad news for Rod but probably good news for the Mets. Josh Thole, he of the "savvy and frequent line drives", will likely see more playing time. If Rod is DL'd, Mike Hessman or Nick Evans should be called up. Either one could provide a needed breather for David at third base. I think I wrote this exact same thing in yesterday's recap.
Watch Jerry use Frankie tomorrow in a five run game, you know, "to get him some work". I want Jerry ousted as much as the next fan, but Omar Minaya shouldn't be allowed to fire his second manager. The pitching matchup on Sunday is R.A Dickey vs Clayton Kershaw.
Beer of the game: Hoptical Illusion IPA from Blue Point Brewing Company in Patchogue, NY (Patchogue's own!)
"A bubbly, active brew that is orange in color. Nice and clear with a tall, sticky head. Hops, citrus, some florals, and more hops on the nose. Expect sharp, bitter hops for the taste. Floral. Very hoppy. I really enjoyed the flavor. A smooth mouthfeel [pause]. Hops and bitterness is there but not overpowering. They linger nicely. This beer seems highly drinkable in my for an IPA." -- BeerAdvocate review
Poem by Howard Megdal
Pelf is passable, offense stalls
Mets get the benefit of several calls
Ollie ends strong after Elmer's weak beginning
But only forestalls doom for a single inning
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* True Blue LA Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Bobby Parnell +24.9%, Pedro Feliciano +10.1%
Big losers: Luis Castillo -33.7%, David Wright -18.6%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Andre Ethier fouled out to catcher +20.8%
Teh sux0rest play: James Loney home run -42.9%
Total pitcher WPA: +33.9%
Total batter WPA: +16.1%
GWRBI!: James Loney
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by Syler; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Syler | 97 |
| 2 | CTRefJay | 96 |
| 3 | Gina | 85 |
| 4 | MookieTheCat | 82 |
| 5 | itsmetsforme | 74 |
| 6 | dcrockett17 | 66 |
| 7 | James Kannengieser | 62 |
| 8 | HotChipWillBreakYourLegs | 61 |
| 9 | Brian. | 59 |
| 10 | Jadden Hopkins | 57 |
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This team is dead in the water, so I'm actively rooting for Mets losses until Jerry gets fired
I just can’t stand that grinning fuckhead anymore.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Well at least following the Mets’ draft position last year was fun.
Time to start that up now, I suppose.
Except that drafts don't mean much in baseball.
Yay, we got a 17 year old from a small town in [wherever]
by MookieTheCat on Jul 25, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent choice for the Beer of the Game.
Anyway, on to Jerry…
Is there any way we can kidnap him and demand a hefty ransom from the Wilpons?
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
No.
"It ain't going to be pretty. No fine is going to be big enough. No suspension is going to be long enough." ~Gary Sheffield
by Lance Johnson on Jul 24, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Rec'd
"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 24, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your will...
"It ain't going to be pretty. No fine is going to be big enough. No suspension is going to be long enough." ~Gary Sheffield
by Lance Johnson on Jul 24, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You know Gerald Ford probably lost the 76 election due to the Drop Dead headline?
True story. He would have won the election if he won NY. And he lost NY on a very small margin compared to the margin he would have had before polls readjusted downstate after that headline.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 25, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm a big fan of the Hoptical IPA too
I like my IPAs bitter with a touch of fruityness.
I was skimming, and thought the line read:
“Hope and bitterness is there, but not overpowering.” Which is sort of a description of how I feel so far about this season. I’m afraid it’s looking like one side of the teeter-totter is going to win out soon, though.
On the bright side – Ollie blew the game. Jerry had Ollie in there to blow the game. Just adding to the already overwhelming evidence that they both need to be ditched for this team to get anywhere.
Everybody know the Mets need a pitcha
Not one hit after the sixth inning by the way. This team just puts together bad at bat after bad at bat.
Everyone in this lineup besides Pagan sucks right now
Ike either hits an XBH or strikeouts
Wright can’t touch anything because he’s 20 feet away from the plate
Beltran is still rusty
Bay is punchless for the most part
Castillo is a gimp
Thole…well actually he’s good
Reyes has regressed in regards to his patience
Maybe firing HoJo won’t change any of this, but I doubt it’ll improve under him
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
exactly
firing Hojo couldn’t make things get worse. And it’s unlikely anything will change under him.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
someone has to take the blame....
and that man is HOJO
Their impatience at the plate
offends me. Under no circumstances can you have a 5 & 9 pitch inning in extras.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
This makes it even MORE apparent that Francouer is a BAD INFLUENCE in that clubhouse.
Meaning his suckiness at the Plate is contagious.
GET RID OF HIM!
Maybe this allows us to call up Nick Evans.
Please?
Who?
The one and only mistermet on teh Interwebz!
by Steve Schreiber on Jul 24, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch it be Santos
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Hopefully, Santos brings grenades with him and they kill each other in the process.
2010: Year of the Grission
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Frenchy maybe but not Santos. He eats Grenades for Breakfast.
I think they’re called burritos….
watch they don't dl him
and just play with an even shorter bench
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
They can just DFA Carter and call up Barret.
"It ain't going to be pretty. No fine is going to be big enough. No suspension is going to be long enough." ~Gary Sheffield
by Lance Johnson on Jul 24, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Short Swingzzzz
"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry
by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 24, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
We need another catcher...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just as with Castillo, the gods
are trying to tell the Mets what to do. But even the Mets are now beyond godly aid.
except it makes even less sense with Barajas
Castillo is, sad as it is, our best 2nd base option and still owed around like 8 or so million, the rest of this year and next.
Barajas is currently the third best catching option on our major league team, hell he might even be worse than the thundergod, and is owed less than a million. There’s literally zero defensible reasons for him to still be around.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Things looked pretty good after winning 4 of 6 from Tigers and Twins...
Then the PR trip and Reyes’ injury…7-16 since then. All teams go through funks, but I’ve never in my life seen such a combination of managerial ineptitude and ice cold bats. Only the Mets. If the Phillies could fire Milt Thompson, how about for starters axing HoJo? Then Jerry. Then DFA the following: Castillo and Perez. Enough is enough.
by northernvatiger on Jul 24, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
The trip to PR started it all
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Holy shit, I love that show!
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Anyone here actually would rather have Armando Benitez pitch than Ollie?
I mean….good grief. It’s gotten to a point where I even miss that fat tub of worthless lard. At least he had a fastball that can strike out people at times.
Ollie has a fastball that can strike people IN THE STANDS when it’s knocked out of the park. geez.
I’m reduced to this…..IT’S ALL FRENCHY’S FAULT!!!
Yes.
Ollie nowadays? I would take worst-case scenario Armando over this.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 25, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
David needs a game off
It’s unacceptable that he sees only 15 pitches in 6 plate appearances. Contrast that with Carlos Beltran(who’s still working off the rust), who saw 27 in his 6. Syler brought it up in the game-thread, but David has drawn only 27 walks in the past 3 months after drawing 21 in April.
Manuel making Reyes bunt so Castillo can have an AB with RISP has to be the dumbest move I’ve seen Manuel make this season(& there are plenty of contenders for that title).
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Agreed
because castillo couldn’t hit it far enough fo score a catcher from second if he hit it from 2b.
blurgh! - me
That was another stupid move
having Blanco come in for Barajas. You don’t even have to waste a position player because you have the faster Thole on the bench. It literally is a no-brainer move.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
He had a serious brain injury last year. He should play around 150 games this year,
if healthy. But, hey, what do we expect from the man who sent an injured Reyes out to hit from the wrong side?
I feel bad for the guy. The guy sorely needs a day of rest, but Jerry is too much of a coward to tell him not to play
Maybe if we’re lucky, he’ll get Thursday’s day game off. Or maybe he’ll just drop dead of exhaustion before then.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
The use of Rodriguez is remarkable.
The 14 inning game on the 21st: Six relievers get into the game, all except their best reliever, Rodriguez, who is well-rested. Mets lose.
9 inning game on the 23rd. Mets take a 6-1 lead into the 9th. Their best reliever, well-rested, finishes the game, throwing all of 8 pitches. Mets win.
Tonight’s 13 inning game, on the 24th. Six relievers again get into the game, all except their best reliever, who has thrown 8 pitches in the previous five days. Mets lose.
by Jack Str on Jul 24, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
You can't use the closer
in a tie game on the road.
That’s #2 in the Bullpen Management Manual for Mainstream Managers
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Jul 24, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a stupid thing that a lot managers stick to
but they usually drop it after using all their other decent relievers.
they lack the dedication of Jerry
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Understood.
It’s one of those blunders common to many managers, nonetheless it’s incredibly basic: you’re in extra innings, some of the other team’s better hitters are due up, so in plenty of time you get your best reliever up and have him pitch an inning. Surely you get him in before you turn to your worst arm.
The worst part of the Mets right now is they are the most boring
and predictable Mets team I’ve seen in awhile.They’re a tough television watch and they require an almost comotose state.to watch an entire game.
Never in my life
have I so feverishly looked forward to Dickey.
Pause away.
by deadspy3 on Jul 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I can't believe I watched the entire game.
At least, though, I went to the comic book store last night, and had some awesome comics to read during the commercials for the first 8 innings, and then basically the rest of the game, only keeping an ear out for important things. The new X-Force series is amazing.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Oh yeah?
I haven’t seen any of it yet. I will pick some up when I pass through the States on my way home in a couple of months
Yeah
The new X-Force series is basically what X-Men would be, realistically, instead of in a comic booky world. The Cable series is good too; I’m going to pick up a compilation of that series up today (possibly). Basically, for me, anything that involves Cable or Apocalypse, I’m down.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A shame Quesada's still sticking OMD in our face
As well as putting Red Hulk on the Avengers.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
What's up with The Hulk and colors?
One, green one wasn’t enough?
Forget colors
Joe Fix-It!
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and as a side note:
I am starting a Facebook group for all of R.A. Dickey’s fans. Should R.A. Dickey’s fans be called ‘Knuckleheads’, or ‘Dickheads’?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Since it is your group, you should be the "Head Knucklehead" or "Master Dickhead"
I say go for Dickheads.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 24, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
or dick fiends
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
"It's that very special time of the week, folks"
“What are we?”
“HUNGRY FOR DICK”
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
How is that even pronounced?
“Dick-Knuckles”, or “Diknuckles”?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible
that the mariners would be desperate enough to swap figgins for perez.?
i want to say the answer is no
but I think the answer is something stronger, more negative and more definitive than no can express.
also what exactly would they have to be desperate for for that to make sense?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
No, because their GM is still amazingly crafty.
Which sucks…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else think
sticking Castillo in the two-hole and pushing Pagan and Wright down is horrible for the lineup? Bat him eighth. Or, better still, DFA him.
This
Not because he sucks, but because it’s tactically sound.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
Not because he sucks, but because it’s tactically sound
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Well, there's that too, but...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys silver lining
at least we didn’t trade away Cliff lee to avoid paying him 9 million and (after a series of other stupid things including possibly the worst contract extension ever) are now trying to trade away our second best player in order to obtain a pitcher in his mid 30s owed more money and who’s about half as good as the pitcher we originally gave away.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
all we did was bet our post season chances on our 3/36 mil sub replacement pitcher and a guy who hasn't been healthy since the middle of 2008
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Seems to be par for the course in the Randolph/Manuel/Minaya/Jeff Wilpon era
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
also how much more would it suck
if we traded someone like Reyes/Pagan for Oswalt because of that 3/36 sub replacement player. also had emptied our farm system to obtain the 3/36 guy.
Cause that would pretty much be the equivalent of the Phils.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
well it wasn't under amaro
the scout who built that team left after he got passed over for the gm job. So at least they have years of futility to look forward too.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
This is true
The albatross Howard contract was a good sign.
Of course, replacing Werth is a phenom who will cost them next to nothing, so. . . .
?
no as far as I understand Brown would have to go in a trade for Oswalt too.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
No way they do that
If they do that, I’ll have my own personal Mardi Gras. Part of the rationale for trading Werth was that they have the cheaper Brown, whose ceiling may be even higher than Werth, and doesn’t lose them anything in misspelled first names. Werth AND Brown? Amaro would be tossed into the Schuylkill faster than a used syringe.
No way they trade Brown for Oswalt
None.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
From what I understand the "plan"
was trade Brown for Oswalt, then trade Werth for prospects to replenish the system.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I think you've been spending too much time
rooting for a team run by Jeff Wilpon and Omar Minaya. Suck-holm Syndrome.
no I actually read that on a phillies fans status
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I'm with you
I don’t think they have enough in their system to get Oswalt without trading Brown (remember they wanted F!, Thole and Tejada from us) – and that’s even considering what they would get for Werth from Tampa or whomever.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
That would be awesome if they did though
They’d have an awesome staff for a year and half, but an outfield of Victorino, 650 OPS Ibanez and fill ins like Damon, Abreu.
I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum in the Game Thread
But why the hell would you go to Ollie knowing that they will be out of pitchers soon and the only one left was a short reliever who just pitched an inning and has a 7.48 ERA?
All we had to do was make it through another inning or two and we would be good to go. Why leave your $60 million closer in the pen?
I’m thinking that Jerry didn’t want to see another light hitting middle infielder on the mound again or he had dinner reservations at Donovan’s.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
You're wasting your time.
This is a mediocre team with a dreadful manager. Bad combination
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Jul 24, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guy, it's no use trying to figure it out.
It’s already been figured out a long time ago. Jerry’s retarded, Omar is a puppet, and Jeff is a stubborn moron.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
I think the issue is:
“But why the hell would you go to Ollie knowing that they will be out of pitchers soon and the only one left was a short reliever who just pitched an inning and has a 7.48 ERA?”
Why would we want to assume that Manuel was aware of this?
It’s almost inconceivable to me that Manuel would know how many pitchers LA had left and who they were.
Because there is a lineup card on the wall with everyone in the bullpen and has lines through everyone who had been used
It’s not that he didn’t know…he did know. He’s just a frigging idiot.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Incidentally
although it kind of got lost in the whole “pissing away the season” theme, Pelfrey being something other than a worthless deucelayer on the mound is kind of encouraging.
yeah it was better than his last few starts for sure
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If the Mets manage to even make the playoffs, I will ghost ride the whip in my neighborhood!
2010: Year of the Grission
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i demand you post proof
i’ll ghost ride a tractor
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I don't have to! Because I know they won't make it.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
Not to mention I don't own a video camera.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
Not only that.
I’m due in court in the near future for a traffic violation I got back in March. With the possibility of points on my license and a suspension, I’m going to put that on hold until that shit’s squared away.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
Big Ghost Tractor?
Sounds like you need a paranormal awesome date in Georgia.
by MookieTheCat on Jul 25, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It just hit me: Did George Sherill really kick our asses?
And Jeff Weaver?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 24, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
That might be the lowpoint of the season
The worst reliever in baseball going through our lineup like nothing.
It just reinforces how pathetic this offense is.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
In what inning would you all have used Frankie?
Not from hindsight, but what do you think you’d have done? I don’t have my head very well wrapped around this. Without a lead, when’s the right time?
lol yeah probably this
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Certainly then, if not earlier,
but why not simply get him ready to pitch the inning in which LA’s best hitters are coming up? That’s an easy one, and gives Roddy plenty of time to warm up. It gets him up once and no more than once before coming into the game.
I would say right after Parnell
use him just as you would at home, in the fucking 9th.
Yes
Frankie instead of Dessens would’ve made more sense.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 25, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
But these morons running the team won’t ever see past the fact that it’s a non-save situation, unless as pointed out in the recap it’s a “Frankie needs work” day. You have got to exhaust your best relief options before turning the game over to the worst pitcher in the league.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 25, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually think coming in in a tie game
with the winning run on is considered a save situation
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I would have used K-Rod before Perez, simply because
K-Rod can pitch a max of, what, two innings? You don’t want to blow out your entire bullpen, slot K-Rod in there, and then play another 20-inning game, you know? At least Perez, he’s a starter, in theory, he can go six, seven innings.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that actually makes sense
the mets would have sent k-rod out there for 4 innings and blown his arm out
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Four innings after having him get up and down in the bullpen for 5 inning beforehand, don't forget.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 25, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Karma
The fact is this is a team with a history of poor management, save for a few brief flurries along the way. Maybe this is what we get for winning those two championships. Hey, we can’t complain. It’s better than the Cubs…
by ColoradoMetsFan on Jul 24, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
Just to add to the crappy things about this game
didn’t Jerry also bunt Jose Reyes in order to set up an rbi opportunity for Luis Castillo in extra innings? That happened, right? Just keep laughing in press conferences Jerry, who cares, not you, that’s for sure.
Sigh
Unbelievable.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That couldn't have really happened, could it?
Nah. No one would do that.
I have found the best Jerry Manuel motivational poster.
Is there any one that explains how we all feel better than this?
Unfortunately
the Mets finite-yet-bottomless pit of stupidity is currently in the fathoms range, not feet
this is the begining of the end isnt it ?
The part of the movie where you realize man, there is no way the hero is getting out.
god they suck
I hate Philadelphia so much.
This is like in Executive Decision when you realize Steven Seagal is gonna get sucked out of the airplane tube
by James Kannengieser on Jul 25, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Tom hanks on the bridge in saving private ryan?
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Jul 25, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, I thought you'd go Leo on the mountainside at the end of Blood Diamond
But the sweaty slap works.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 25, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Originally I was going to mention
the innate hubris of Kate Winslet’s lady parts, but then I remembered she survived
she survived because she hogged all the space on that dresser
and let Leo drown. Bitch.
you had me at
“innate hubris of Kate Winslet’s lady parts”
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
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