Mets 8, Cardinals 2: Can Jerry Manuel Stay Suspended?

If I were the Mets I would probably appeal Jerry Manuel's suspension which came as a result of his ejection and histrionics in San Francisco. I would bring video evidence and eyewitness accounts of the events. I would solicit expert testimony from folks who understand the appeals process inside and out. I would march into Bud Selig's office and request, nay, demand that Jerry Manuel's suspension be reconsidered and, if at all possible, extended indefinitely.
Not that Dave Jauss actually made any decisions in tonight's game. At least, I hope he didn't. Oh, the win was great, no doubt, but somebody decided to bring Francisco Rodriguez in to an 8-2 game in the ninth inning, and it's the sort of move that has Manuel's fingerprints all over it. I suppose Rodriguez probably needed the work since he wasn't used at all over the weekend in situations of any consequence.
Jon Niese had an interesting outing tonight. He got tons of ground balls -- the majority of them finding David Wright, it seemed -- but he induced just three swinging strikes all night. Hardly dominant, but just one run allowed on seven singles and two walks in six innings. He gave up the run in the first inning, and considering how useless the offense has been of late, a 1-0 deficit to Adam Wainwright seemed almost insurmountable.
But surmount it the Mets did, as the lineup exploded for eight runs on nine hits and five walks. The six runs Wainwright allowed were more than in any previous start this season, with the biggest blow coming in the form of a Jeff Francoeur three-run home run in the fourth. Carlos Beltran's negative energy must have an inverse effect on Francoeur's performance.
The Mets look to make it two in a row when Johan Santana takes on Jaime Garcia on Wednesday night.
Unintentionally sexual quote of the game: "He has holes just like everybody else." -Jon Niese on Albert Pujols (or Poo-Holes). (h/t metsguy234)
Poem by Howard Megdal
After a West Coast trip that was crushing
Mets find their wins, and their runs, back in Flushing
Frenchy hit homer, as his bat went crack
A dozen stories started on how he is "back"
A trade of Niese for an ace you should be dreading
For all that would accomplish is some water-treading
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Viva El Birdos Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Carlos Beltran, +17.5% WPA, Jon Niese, +14.9% WPA
Big losers: Jose Reyes, -3.8% WPA, Luis Castillo, -2.4% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Francoeur three-run home run in fourth, +19.3% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Ludwick RBI (infield) single in first, -9.5% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +32.8% WPA
Total batter WPA: +17.2% WPA
GWRBI!: Jeff Francoeur
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by CTRefJay; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | CTRefJay | 106 |
| 2 | fxcarden | 89 |
| 3 | Gina | 78 |
| 4 | Michkin | 70 |
| 5 | deadspy3 | 67 |
| 6 | Syler | 67 |
| 7 | aparkermarshall | 52 |
| 8 | Ballonthewall | 46 |
| 9 | Jadden Hopkins | 41 |
| 10 | NetsMets4Life | 36 |
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Good win, especially considering it came at the expense of Wainwright
We’re going to need to win 4/5 on the rest of this homestand if we’re serious about getting back in the playoff hunt
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
by Syler on Jul 27, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
We were never serious about the playoff hunt.
It was all just a prank.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
by Michkin on Jul 27, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
punk'd
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Jul 27, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea how can you be serious
And bring Ollie back and keep Jerry
by Sir Tmac on Jul 27, 2010 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm talking about the team itself
I know management isn’t
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I will give you that the team is taking it seriously
Especially giving the handicap that management has put on them
by Sir Tmac on Jul 27, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
for something almost positive. It’s refreshing, considering how badly this team is run.
+1
For your leap of faith of comment, even though it might be into a pit or the newly discovered black hole called ‘TNE’
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even know existed" -Casey Stengel
by cuseindahuse on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a restraining order would be more appropriate with Jerry.
But then he’ll laugh at it and pretend it doesn’t exist. Like Nick Evans.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
by R_Adragna on Jul 27, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
I am starting to think that the Dolan and the WIlpon's
Where Caught together by Isaiah Thomas and Jerry Manual
Watching the recap now
Wow, didn’t hit me that Wright fielded like 10 outs tonight. Mitigates the Ole and bad throw i guess.
zackly, Howie
the first two innings were Wright highlights
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
Beltran Sucks
Oh wait, no he doesn’t.
I remember people saying he wasn’t any good and hurt the team.
Tough Call
Castillo or Jeffries?
Or maybe Cora?
by jefferiessuck on Jul 27, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, Jerry. Things seemed to have worked out better with you out of the picture.
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
by CTRefJay on Jul 27, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
not harsh enough
Mets 2010 slogan; "a whole new level of stupid you were unprepared for."
by scott from peekskill on Jul 28, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I forgot that Reyes can occasionally second-deck a ball
when he feels like it. That was fun to see
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 27, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
what's kind of funny..and kind of sad
is that for all his struggles, and all the time he’s missed with injuries, he now has one more than Jason Bay.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Even sadder only one of them is currently on pace for their typical season
And it’s the one who has missed 1/3 of the season
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Farnsworth left the Kansas City game in the 7th with apparent arm trouble
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
Wow
That franchise is cursed
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
and we're cursed
cause now there’s no way we’ll swap him with frenchy
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Rumors of having to pitch for the Mets
can provoke severe stress-related autoimmune responses. NEJM article forthcoming.
K-Rod:
Because paying him $17 million a year to “get some work” in a blowout is more important than having him pitch in extra innings of a tie game (in case the Mets were to somehow survive Ollie AND score a run?).
Seriously, isn’t Ollie on the roster for specifically this situation? Maybe not for do or die situations, since he is so bad he’s not allowed to pitch in the rotation?
by enigma2029 on Jul 27, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Uhh...
Seriously, isn’t Ollie on the roster for specifically this situation? Maybe not for do or die situations, since he is so bad he’s not allowed to pitch in the rotation?
I don’t think he’s even allowed to pitch in a wiffle-ball league.
2010: Year of the Grission
In My World, There Is No Such Thing As Off-Topic!
Exactly. This is exactly when Perez should be getting into a game.
99% of the time you find out that he can’t get hitters out, but at least you find that out and DFA him without him costing he team actual, you know, wins.
his game log is actually insane
here
2 no decisions, in 2-0 and 2-1 losses (bullpen blows it both times, I think). Other than that, a loss for every times he’s given up 4 runs (3 times), one tonight (6 runs, most all season), and two losses where the cards didn’t score.
Also, 14 wins. The dude is pretty awesome. 19 quality starts in 22 starts, counting tonight.
Wainwright's a hell of a pitcher.
Strange that the team’s bats woke up against a guy on a HOF career path.
Perversity
Your 2010 New York Mets.
by deadspy3 on Jul 28, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not strange
considering it was at home. Although the home/road splits are a tad strange.
Happy for Voltron
Maybe our %*$%ing idiot fans won’t boo him tomorrow.
First time the guy has played all year because the organization mishandled him, and they boo him.
Absolutely classless.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
by AnthonyR on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
They booed for real?
I missed the game. That’s disappointing, but not surprising. Trash fanbase.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 27, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Pre-game introductions
Audible booing
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Wow, what douchebags
I’m going to assume Francoeur didn’t get any booing?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Just awful.
What a horrible showing by the fans.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Didn't hear any booing through the tv,
but it was pathetic he didn’t get at least a very loud cheer from the crowd to welcome him back. My best friend, a Yankees fan, couldn’t understand why Mets fans didn’t cheer for him. Idiots.
by lefty vs lefty on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Pujols has holes like everybody else
and Dickey will be sure to find them.
The one and only mistermet on teh Interwebz!
by Steve Schreiber on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dickey says all your holes are belong to me
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
by Gina on Jul 28, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I still Hate TeethCoeur. DentCoeur. GarbageCoeur. Even Coeur's Light.
Get his sorry stupid-grinning azz out of here!!
HOW DARE YOU! His smile can cure cancer
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Hey, he won.
Did Wainwright throw Beltran any curveballs? And, if so, did he hit them?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
lol i actually think he took the only one i saw
for a called first strike.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Funny stuff, though...
From the Jason Bay out with “mild concussion” thread :
Why no Carter against the righty?
No one actually thinks Failcore will get a hit against Wainwright?
by jefferiessuck on Jul 27, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions
i think he might accidently.
by Gina on Jul 27, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s more likely to have an “accident” in his pants against Wainwright
by AnthonyR on Jul 27, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
poop jokes…
gotta love em
by Mike Clemente on Jul 27, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Talk about foreshadowing. hahah!!
Nice. Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My fave Hacksaw moment ever
was when he was in Britain fighting a English wrestler and got the crowd to do a loud USA chant.
Hacksaw is definitely win
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
Lucas Duda had another homer today
Do we think about bringing him up? I guess not unless Bay goes on the DL. I can’t see them platooning Bay with his contract.
Brett Myers threw a gem for Houston last night
CG, 9 innings, 4 hits, 1 run (1 ER), 1 BB, 12 Ks. His ERA is down to 3.04.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Houston isn't a bandbox
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yeah, i guess it's a neutral park on average
It’s just wildly changed over the years from being a homer friendly when it opened and last year it was a place fly balls went to die.
it was like that the year before too I think
I remember it made Wolf’s numbers all crazy
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
DUDA
Franco- you point out something interesting- doesn’t it seem like the Mets always have some overpaid underachiever blocking whatever good prospects they do have due to a huge salary? Lots of OF talent in the minors yet not a whisper about promoting Duda or Kirk N. (they do promote from AA- Evans & Murphy are examples).
MYERS
Brock- do you really think the Astros would do that? I think even the Mets fans who dislike Myers from his Phillies days would approve. Don’t know if it’s good or bad Francouer homered last night- does that increase his trade value or will the Mets sell it as him coming around & getting hot?
Dude. It's a joke.
I wasn’t being serious about it. wow.
The Myers thing is tough for me
I have no issues rooting for most players who were rivals but now on my team, that is how the game is, I get over it [not you though Tommy]. However, all that stuff with violence against his wife or girlfriend, I don’t know. Ceterus Peribus I would obviously prefer to not root for that type of guy. It’s like I can just never enjoy it, even when things are going well. A good friend of mine is a Rams fan and talked about that everytime Little got a sack.
I'm willing to blame his abuse of his girlfriend on his being a Phillie
It corrupts you, like how the One Ring corrupted Gollum and was starting to corrupt Bilbo and then Frodo. Now that he’s no longer wearing that uniform every day, he has total control of his mind and body again, and he’s probably a pretty good guy. This is why the whole Phillies roster needs to be thrown into the fires of Mount Doom.
2009 Did Not Happen
by cjmulrain on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yay
so this team won at home. Can’t win on the road, no point in trying for the playoffs! A win’s a win, I guess.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
BUTSEE
We would have HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE in the World Series. THIS ONE COUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
unfortunately we wouldn't have it through out the play-offs
so it wouldn’t matter
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson





























