Twins Acquire Matt Capps for Wilson Ramos

no, really.

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Wow, the rest of the MLB is apparently doing their best Omar impressions

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jul 29, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions

im worried all this craziness

is going to confuse Omar into doing something dumb.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 29, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe, just maybe

It will confuse him so much, he’ll do something genius.

by Evan_S on Jul 29, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions

You left out a few

thousand “maybes”.

by Jack Str on Jul 30, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions

well at least Omar wasn't dumb enough to do this

On a related note, SI’s Jon Heyman tweets that the Jays asked the Mets for outfield prospect Kirk Nieuwenhuis and one other player for Downs and were denied.

by TheKid08 on Jul 30, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Good!

I’m actually not that concerned Omar will sell the farm on a “eh” guy.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jul 30, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Downs is a fine pitcher, but wtf do the Mets need him for?

He’s a free agent at the end of the season. What difference could he possible make this year? I could see it if the Mets had added Oswalt and Kelly Johnson. At that point picking up another arm to bolster the pen for a real stretch drive would make sense, but Downs in isolation, particularly if it means giving up a prospect like KneeWhenFuss (though he’s going to have to boost his walk rate, and improve his strike zone judgment to have a shot at a real career).

Speaking of which, the Mets are going to have some real holes in the OF in the next few years. Beltran is gone after 2011. Pagan will be getting around market value in arbitration in 2012. Jason Bay will have been sent to the glue factory. We need a half dozen prospects like Kirk in the hopes that two of them pan out, though given the Wilpons refusal to sit expensive guys no matter how bad they get, we’ll probably only be able to use one of them.

by Jack Str on Aug 2, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions

some dumb its genius...i like it

full circle

by Mike Clemente on Jul 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow Twins

Trade your top catching prospect for a RP.Thats just brilliant

"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry

by Jadden Hopkins on Jul 29, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions

If Capps can get someone like Ramos, then Feliciano has to get something decent himself, right??

What a terrible, terrible trade for the Twins

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Jul 29, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the trade.

If Pedro can bring back an A/B+ prospect anywhere than you have to deal him

by FrancoTAU on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

eh Capps has the closer title and the saves

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 30, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions

sad but true

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jul 30, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Trade K-Rod?

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

this

I don’t really WANT to sell but Feliciano is one of the best LOOGY’s in the game right now, I would take a good young player or two in exchange for him. If we offer him arb this offseason he pretty much has to accept because teams aren’t going to want to give up some top draft choices for a type A LOOGY.

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I would agree...

And I love Felicianos in general (Pedro and Jesus), but unless Pedro will be better deployed from here on in I think it might be worth a trade. It’s like someone who owns an Italian sports car and refuses to stop driving it on logging roads in the mountains. It may be worth more than a pickup truck, but will likely be worth less due to misuse. Of course you could just stop misusing it, but what’s the chance of that?

by MookieTheCat on Jul 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Weird trades this whole month

Either big overpays or underpays as far as the prospects half of these deals.

by FrancoTAU on Jul 29, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions

Wow,

this is a terrible move by the Twins.

"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt

by Brian. on Jul 29, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions

So they wouldn't deal Ramos for Lee

but they’d deal him for Matt freakin’ Capps?

Yeah, I’m just as shocked as everyone else.

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by Steve Schreiber on Jul 29, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions

They offered Ramos and Hicks for Lee

(their #1 and #2 prospects) the Mariners preferred Smoak+ apparently.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jul 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

The Rangers package for Lee was probably better, but it’s still weird that Ramos can go from being the centerpiece for a Cliff Lee trade to being dealt for a decent (not great) reliever.

by EricAColucci on Jul 30, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Bill Hicks?

by MookieTheCat on Jul 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is Denis Leary more popular than Bill Hicks?

Because there’s no cure for cancer.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Um, what?

I understand that Ramos is stuck behind Mauer, but this is ridiculous.

Capps is having a nice year, but he is not a top-shelf closer by any means and above average defensive catchers with pop are not easy to come by.

Someone better lock Omar in his office and take the phone. I don’t want him dealing for a pitcher in this market.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 29, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions

You mean the market

that saw both Haran and Oswalt go for a middle of the rotation arms plus some (borderline) B-/C+ prospects?

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jul 30, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions

confusing, right?

by JoshNY on Jul 30, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions

the market is really kind of terrifying right now

seems like a total cluster*uck of one team gouging another.

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by KeithsMoustache on Jul 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

I don’t know what the hell is going on. The haul that the Nats got for Capps will probably turn out better than what the DBacks got for Haren.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Jul 30, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions

which is kind of hilarious

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 30, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

hahaha, Nats got more for a relief pitcher than the Astros or DBacks got for their aces.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Jul 30, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions

Weird trading season.

Especially since it’s the Twins getting snookered like this.

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Cash

It amazes me that $10 million is the difference here. The Twins will pay Capps about $10-$12 million less than Oswalt will get from the Phils, and this is a much, much more substantial package than the crap that the Phillies dealt.

by sjohnson125 on Jul 30, 2010 6:41 AM EDT reply actions

Crap

Capps losing his closer role is going to screw up my fantasy team.

by Brittannia on Jul 30, 2010 7:19 AM EDT reply actions

He'll close in Minnesota

Rauch will be the set-up man.

by EricAColucci on Jul 30, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

And he'll get a lot more save opportunities, too.

May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.

by BobbyV_Incognito on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep

I find it pretty weird that Capps got more value than Oswalt or Haren. I mean What the heck? relievers like him can be found dime a dozen….!
I guess Nats don’t like Derrik Norris much (their own top catching prospect) to trade for Ramos….
and I am glad Omar saw the idiocy in trading a good prospect for a LOOGY.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jul 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions

who is the LOOGY?

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 30, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

o I guess you mean Feliciano

was thinking you were referring to Capps as a LOOGY

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Jul 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Remember that time

when the Mets traded Armando Benitez to the Yankees for Anderson Garcia, Jason Anderson, and Ryan Bicandoa five days after the Rangers got Adrian Gonzalez and two other guys for Ugueth Urbina?

Why do I have a feeling, even if the Mets are smart enough to trade Feliciano, something similar will happen this time around. God that sequence of trades pissed me off – Benitez was better than Urbina, and they could have gotten Adrian freaking Gonzalez for him. I hate being a Mets fan.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 30, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions