Reds 8, Mets 6: Regression Is Mean To Pelfrey, Comeback Falls Short
by James Kannengieser on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 PM EDT
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As the Mets closed a 7-1 deficit to 7-6 on Pyrotechnics Night 2010, memories of Fireworks Night 2000 were briefly conjured. However, Mike Piazza isn't here anymore and there would be no go-ahead laser three-run homer.
Mike Pelfrey had absolutely nothing tonight -- 4.2 innings, nine hits, seven runs, four walks and just one strikeout. He couldn't command any pitch for the second game in a row. Things might have been different if the umpires hadn't overturned a caught foul-tip for strike three on Scott Rolen with the bases loaded and none out in the fifth inning. After some discussion, it was ruled a hit-by-pitch (replays were inconclusive; if the pitch did hit Rolen it was a jersey scrape) and Jerry Manuel was ejected for arguing the reversal. Pelf was eventually pulled after giving up five more runs, capped off by opposing pitcher Travis Wood's RBI triple. Home plate umpire Randy Meals's strike zone was also a bit wonky. Regardless, it's tough to be successful when walks outnumber strikeouts four to one.
Charlie Manuel is a brilliant man. He must have omitted Joey Votto from the All Star Game roster to fire him up for the Mets series. It worked, as the best Canadian in the game went 3-4 with two homers and a double. Well played, Mauer Manuel.
Angel Pagan, David Wright and Alex Cora each had two hits, including one extra base hit each. Pagan socked a solo home run (batting righthanded!), a reassuring sign given his recent injury concerns. Cora had a two-run double in the fifth inning and now boasts a modest six game hitting streak. Speaking of that inning, here is an outless sequence featuring Jeff Francoeur, Rod Barajas and Cora that you don't see everyday:
This was an overall disappointing game but it was nice to see the bats come to life following Pelfrey's meltdown inning. And Frenchy gunning down Votto trying to advance to third base on a flyout in the eighth inning provided some entertainment. Johan Santana will try to play stopper Tuesday night at 7:10 against Aaron Harang.
Unintentionally sexual quote of the game: "The Reds coaches will try to massage Wood through the fifth inning." -- Gary Cohen
Poem by Howard Megdal
Upon further review, Rolen hit by the ball
This spelled doom on night when Big Pelf was quite small
Pagan homered, Mets rallied for five in same frame
But Pelf dug too big of a hole in this game
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Big winners: Alex Cora +22.5%, David Wright +3.2%
Big losers: Mike Pelfrey -36.1% (as pitcher), Ruben Tejada -13.1%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Alex Cora double +20.8%
Teh sux0rest play: Drew Stubbs two-run single -17.5%
Total pitcher WPA: -36.6%
Total batter WPA: -13.4%
GWRBI!: Travis Wood
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by KeithsMoustache; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | KeithsMoustache | 140 |
| 2 | aparkermarshall | 116 |
| 3 | Evan_S | 110 |
| 4 | blueandorange4life | 103 |
| 5 | CTRefJay | 90 |
| 6 | Mike Clemente | 81 |
| 7 | Jadden Hopkins | 74 |
| 8 | fxcarden | 69 |
| 9 | Brian. | 57 |
| 10 | isles732 | 53 |
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Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
by Bobby Baseball on Jul 6, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, Dick Pole was not massaging Wood through the 5th inning.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 5, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Also, from Chris Carlin in the post-game:
“That hole really started to get dug.”
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Jul 5, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
that guys on fire
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
At least Jerry didn't have to make anymore stupid decisions the rest of that game.
2010: Year of the Grission
thats some freaking BS
overturning a strike call? when the fuck has that even happened before???
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
I should've been clearer
It was initially ruled a foul tip caught by Barajas for strike three (it definitely was not a foul tip). They changed it to a HBP (it probably was this but not 100%). Regardless it was a bizarre sequence. Never seen that happen.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 6, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
so he swung?
no tv and no radio today so no clue what happened
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
It was a check-swing
Definitely didn’t go around. I’ll get a screengrab of it in a second.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 6, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It should have been ball three.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 6, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Here
Video of the whole incident. Plus a screengrab which doesn’t really help but whatever.
by James Kannengieser on Jul 6, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
i still didnt think you could overturn a strike call. especially with inconclusive data
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
they are in first place for a reason
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
They are a very strong team.
Imagine if they had any kind of pitching.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 6, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolute frikkin' laserbeam from Frenchy to get Votto
Ichiro is the only other rightfielder who even comes close to that.
Incredible.
And boo to the second base umpire for overturning that strikeout of Rolen. I knew as soon as Dusty Baker came out to argue that they would overturn it. These things seem to always happen to our team. One day these breaks are going to start going the Mets’ way….hopefully, anyway.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 6, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
I don't know for sure if he's the one that overturned it
but he is the one who kept covering his mouth, and it seemed like he was the one fighting for it.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 6, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the 2B umpire who overturned the call.
He was also the Crew Chief so that’s why he was the one arguing with dumb-dumb.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
oh
I had no idea he was crew chief.
makes sense
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
by SundaysWithTroy on Jul 6, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I know it's been said alot already this year
but this team has alot of heart. They fought back, after that 6-run inning Cincy had, with 5 of their own. It took a couple of nice plays from the Reds at the end there to keep the Mets from getting in position to complete the comeback.
The Reds defense is something else. Rolen, Cabrera and Phillips are vacuums out there. Speed in the outfield, power and patience at the plate and Joey Effin’ Votto are making them look like they’re in it for the long haul – this year and beyond.
Chalk this loss up to Pelfrey. That was an awful performance that could have been worse, if not for a doubleplay to end one inning and Pelf squeezing out of a bases loaded, one out jam in another. He is coming back to earth alright, with a loud thud.
Tough loss, but IMHO the Mets are right there. Boy, Cliff Lee would make this team look really good.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
Nice to see KM
taking the game thread honors again.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Jul 6, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
thanks, i'm back in midseason form now
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 6, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Since Cerrone established 100 comments as average, you posted 140 wC+ yesterday.
That’s poor AA. Only 4 guys are above average, it’s almost like the Mets lineup.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
sounds like a challenge
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
What I don't quite get is
with Pelfrey having nothing, why not pull him from the game earlier? I think it was Bill James that noted Earl Weaver never left a pitcher out there to get battered, which meant Earl’s teams more often than others weren’t down by six, seven, eight runs, and so occasionally came back. In a game where a lot of managers’ decisions are measured in one one hundredths of a run, that’s the kind of approach that can win a couple of extra games each year.
The bullpen has been taxed lately
And after giving up the go ahead run, Pelfrey got the next two outs before imploding against the likes of Stubbs, Corky freaking Miller, and the pitcher. I can’t blame Jerry/Jaus for leaving him in against those guys.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
While I agree with you and Earl in theory...
Back in the day, most good relievers could go 2+ innings. Also, we don’t even have a long man in our pen.
we just brought up valdes and called him that
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
and moved taka to the pen
albeit he just pitched sunday
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
Seems like an odd choice...
… and one more reason to move Tak back to the pen. More than most he can go 2+ innings.
we wanted him to leave with a good negative feeling
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
You're a generous man, but
pulling your number one starter in his last start when he was pitching well and had given up one run in 97 pitches will do things like strain a bullpen.
pelf pitches sunday
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
Best tweets of the night:
Pelfrey says Rolen “has acting career waiting for him when he retires”.
Joey Votto hit more homeruns tonight than Omar Infante has hit all year.
My 5-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.
Riiiiight
let’s compare Omar Infante to Joey Votto.
The real horse shit in the ASG that everyone seems to forget is that Ryan Howard made it over Votto. Funny how people forgot about that, huh?
"Sharks have a week dedicated to Jason Heyward."
METS: My Entire Team Sucks.
by Scott Coleman on Jul 6, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard: a bad decision. Omar Infante: a horrible decision.
Troll elsewhere troll.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Omar Infante doesn't even START for his own team
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
i dont think anyone here forgot that
stats, they are seriously never in Francoeur's favor
Did it have something to do with the player that a manager can designate to go back
into the game? (Though you’d think that would make a utility player LESS rather than more valuable…)
Damn our winning ways!
Investment bankers who sell sports teams believe the Amazin’s owners, the Wilpon family, are so cash-strapped that they will have to sell the Flushing franchise if the team has a losing season or two and attendance falls.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
hey they might sell to Dolan
be careful what you wish for.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Shit, I keep forgetting that.
Or Wang, who’s first order of business would be to give a 15 year deal to the media friendly, bearded, smiling guy, Rick DiPiet… I mean Jeff Francoeur.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Clutch!
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Jul 6, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
wanted Valdes to stay in and hit, but Neive pitched a good 3 innings
he got some Ks and besides 1 HR to Votto cruised through the innings pretty decent
Dubs had great ABs yesterday. He fouled some tough pitches, kept the AB alive and even his outs were hit hard.
Lately he has been in an incredible hot streak, like .475 wOBA in June (.486 BABIP) and .432 in July (.529 BABIP). Imagine how it’ll be like when he cools of a bit.
In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.
Was I the only person who went and got my Rally Glasses?
Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.
Didn't think Manuel had it in him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPslOL-bOyE
bad view, but all I could find.
That’s was great to watch.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
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