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Mets Sign 24th Rounder Erik Goeddel

Aaron Fitt of Baseball America has reported that the Mets have agreed to terms with 24th-round pick Erik Goeddel on a contract with a reported $500,000 signing bonus. Goeddel was the most interesting pitcher the Mets grabbed during the draft, but I didn’t think there was a chance at all he’d sign. The Mets don’t have a great track record in this regard, but they do sign one or two of these guys a year: think Kyle Allen in 2008 and Zach Dotson in 2009. But more importantly I also didn’t think there was a realistic sum the Mets could offer that would make it worth Goeddel’s while: a big season in UCLA’s rotation in 2011 could make him a first-round pick and grant him a seven-figure bonus. Of course, a poor season might have pushed him back down in the round 5-10 range with little leverage. So the two sides met in the middle.

Goeddel was a redshirt sophomore in 2010, but it was really his first year pitching in college ball thanks to an elbow injury at the end of his senior year in high school that wound up costing him two years. He returned late in 2009, but ran into elbow soreness after just one appearance on the Cape and had to be shut down. UCLA decided to ease him into the swing of things by making him a reliever with plans to make him a weekend starter during his junior season. He pitched pretty well this season, striking out more than a batter per inning with decent control. Goeddel has decent size at 6-3, 180 pounds, but I wouldn’t expect much projection. The frame is narrow, and I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of room for him to get stronger. He was typically throwing 90-94 this season but had crept up to the mid-90s during the College World Series. He also showed a harder slider than I had previously seen—he used to throw a slower curve that wasn’t as impressive to me, but the slider works better with his three quarters arm slot. The arm slot also gives his heater a little bit of sink, though I haven’t seen a ground ball rate for him.

Here’s the big question: how do you use Goeddel? UCLA used him as a reliever, and he was pretty impressive there. His velocity was higher than it had ever been as a starter, where he typically threw 89-92 in high school, touching 93. But Goeddel planned to switch to starting, and the sinking fastball and easy arm action do indicate it could be a fair landing spot for him. But as a starter he will take more time and has more bust potential. The velocity might revert from above average to average, the slider might not be effective against southpaws, there’s no changeup to speak of, and he does have a timing issue in his delivery that might give him health trouble down the road (if it’s not cleared up), especially troublesome for a guy who already has an injury history. I can see the arguments for both roles. So much so that I’m not a hundred percent sure what I’d do if I were in the Mets’ place.

But regardless of their plans for Goeddel, it is nice to see the Mets take a chance on an iffy prospect, just as I was glad when they signed Dotson and Allen. It’s only money after all, and not a tremendous price to pay for a flier on someone who could be pretty effective in the next couple years.

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I forgot to mention that, but his father’s a big deal in biogenetics.

by Alex Nelson on Jul 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can genetically engineer additions to

his son so he can throw 200 MPH without hurting himself.

by Evan_S on Jul 7, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are the odds that David Goeddel

is the son of Eddie Gaedel? The timing works out with the ages, and his profession can even come into play- David went into biotechnology, specifically the HGH part, because of the trials and tribulations that his father went through.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 7, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

i was super pleased to see omar & co. stepped up to make this signing, especially since it was so out of character. i mean dotson was also nice but he was a 13th rounder who got $500,000 and that took right up until the deadline. allen was a similar 24th round pick but only took $240,000, though that was still well over slot. but to lock up someone with a lot of potential like goeddel for such a relatively steep figure with the deadline nowhere in sight is a nice sign for those of us who have lost faith in this regime’s draft practices.

as for goeddel himself, when i first read about him after the draft i couldn’t ignore the obvious similarities with another talented UCLA power arm that the mets drafted a couple years back, brant rustich. it’s actually pretty remarkable, they’re both big strong righties, both throw in the low-to-mid 90’s, both possess good mid-to-high 80’s sliders, both have injury histories that caused them to redshirt at UCLA and both have people split over bullpen or rotation. i personally always prefer starting a guy in the rotation and then transitioning him into relief if he shows you he can’t do it but considering i thought there was absolutely no way we’d sign him, i’d be happy either way.

by Rob Castellano on Jul 7, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The Allen money

Was “only” $240,000 as you say but also came in a year where the Mets shelled out more money. I just want it to be clear that signing one guy overslot isn’t as much out of character as you’d think. Much more out of character would be drafting a handful of guys who would put you in a position to go overslot, should you sign them.

Almost every team will go overslot once or twice in a draft. Very few teams try to take advantage of it.

by Alex Nelson on Jul 7, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go reliever

I know the general rule is you give him every chance to fail as a starter, but since he only has two pitches is already going to be 22 and has a history of arm trouble, I think you put him in the pen and hope he moves fast.

I know it seems to be working out for Brackman now, who signed under somewhat similiar circumstances,but he was always a much higher ceiling guy with a big frame.

Still, even getting a potential 8th inning guy (doesn’t quite sound like he has the stuff to be a closer) in the 24th round would be a nice coup.

by Jeffrey Paternostro on Jul 7, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I was psyched when I heard about this the other day

I’m more inclined to just make him a bullpen guy if he had TJ surgery in his teens already. He could’ve just had the world’s worst mechanics and nobody to correct him in High School.

by FrancoTAU on Jul 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

HS Mechanics

Erik has been under the tutelage of a former major leaguer since he was about 10; he has always thrown hard, however at about 13 he grew faster than his body would support and he “out threw” what his arm would support. His mechanics have not changed much, he is as smooth as silk, since he played youth baseball. His arm trouble in HS was more a function of him throwing harder than his body could support.

by BBNut on Jul 26, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really $500K this early in the process?

I always thought that MLB wouldn’t allow overslots until just before the signing deadline.

This year $125 to $150K would be the norm without commission approval.

I find this to be fictional. Not the signing, the amount he signed for.

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by LoveofTheGame on Jul 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Should have been more clear

This is an agreement to terms. The actual contract hasn’t gone through yet, but the terms are set. Also the bonus isn’t completely confirmed but is believed to be a shade less than $500k. It wouldn’t surprise me if it doesn’t go through for weeks like Jeff Glenn last year.

by Alex Nelson on Jul 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibility

He is only a Sophomore correct? Then slightly under 500K is not out of the question, but MLBTR states, the advisor isn’t speaking. If the advisor isn’t speaking, there’s a reason and most likely that reason is…….that isn’t the right figures, or he’d be blasting his mouth off at 500K in the 24th round. Or at least, we’ve had discussions and with the MLB Tuition plan included it’s in that area.

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by LoveofTheGame on Jul 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goeddel-Bonus

Goeddel has a good chance at a seven-figure payday if he goes back to school. Turning that down for guaranteed money now, $500,000 sounds right. Actually it sounds a little light. Especially for a guy whose parents would doubtless prefer he stay in school and isn’t hurting financially (see above). Goeddel was considered one of the widest talent-bonus chasms in the country this year.

There’s no way this is anywhere near a slot bonus like you seem to think.

by Alex Nelson on Jul 7, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starter or reliever . . . ?

Hmmm. . . . at least the Mets tend to be decisive on this issue.

by tmu on Jul 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

More importantly

how do you pronounce his name? Is it like the NFL commissioner, is it like “god-el”, or is it “go-del”? Burning questions people.

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by cjmulrain on Jul 8, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Goeddel

I am just happy that the Mets scouting staff are doing their homework and scouring the Earth for talent. Not every draft pick will produce a Major League player. That includes first round picks. All the Mets can do is inject their system with talented prospects and hope a mixture of coaching and hard work produce results.

by ejcal70 on Jul 8, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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