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It's hard to downplay the importance of this weekend's series with the Braves for the Mets, but fortunately they have the LeBron James story to shade them from the blistering spotlight for a little while. Metsradamus connects the two stories in his normal humorous fashion

The Mets continue to show interest in some arms to bolster the pitching staff. While there hadn't been much buzz about him before, the Mets are apparently still scouting Roy Oswalt. They are also kicking the tires on Toronto reliever Kevin Gregg. Dan Stack emphasizes again how much the Mets need someone like Cliff Lee (who very well might be headed to the Yankees). 

As the Braves come to town and Chipper Jones' retirement is fast approaching, would it be right for Met fans to giving Larry a standing ovation

Greg Prince takes a look at what happened to Met managers after they left New York.

Tsuyoshi Shinjo shows style, steals home. Also in that video, look how he somehow makes the safe motion while sliding.

The Mets have signed two young Venezuelan bats.

Around MLB

Brian Schneider hits a walk-off home run for the reeling and whining Phillies who are looking to deal Jayson Werth.

Hanley Ramirez is in at the Home Run Derby.

Joey Votto and Nick Swisher are your last men into the All-Star Game, that is until someone else bails.

Carlos Delgado says he'll be ready to play sometime this month and would be willing to accept a minor league assignment.

One team who may be interested in Delgado, the Angels, are getting warnings that there may be riots when they visit Oakland.

Royals Review asks the good question: should you root for the poorly managed team to win?

Outside MLB

Of course this space has to go to LeBron. Two things of note that I wanted to pass along about him. First, if you haven't already seen it, you need to read Cavs' owner Dan Gilbert's response to James' desertion. Secondly, you must also read Joe Posnanski's tale of woe as a Cleveland fan.

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The commentary in the Shinjo clip is pretty good,

In reference to his home run call: “Yeah, I’ve seen that somewhere before, abroad” (sarcasm intended). The video is from 2004, though, I think, Shinjo’s been out of baseball for years now. [/Mets fan in Japan]

by otnekstem on Jul 9, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Say it ain't so, Shinjo!

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Jul 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think a lot of teams would look at him

but I also think his numbers will go down in a different ballpark, unless he goes to the Reds or another hitters park

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 9, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen the comments over at Pinstripe Alley about the Lee trade?

They HATE it. They are praying it doesn’t actually happen. They do not want to give up top prospects for this guy, when they could just sign him in December.

Also, it will keep Lee out of the NL. This trade is only a problem for the Mets if they and the Yankees both win pennants, and the Mets should have such problems.

by Andee on Jul 9, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't hate the Yankees picking up Lee

If the Mets don’t grab him, better to see him in the AL.

"It’s like being in love with an alcoholic. It’s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, ‘Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,’ and you’re like, ‘Nah, you don’t know her like I do."- Jim Breuer

by spaceboy761 on Jul 9, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speak for yourself

Lee to the Rays would be my dream. Or the Sox. :-)

Pelfrey, Niese, Dickey, Santana sure sounds like a great playoff rotation, don't it? Let's Go Mets!

by ZaBlanc on Jul 9, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Pinstripe Alley,

they are in the minority of meat-head chest-thumping Yankee blowhards.

2010: Year of the Grission

by R_Adragna on Jul 9, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine that, Yankees fans who aren't mindless pit-scratching hominids.

But you’d think even the meatheads would understand the concept of not wasting your best prospects on someone you really don’t need to have right now, who you’ll probably get later anyway, and therefore not having those prospects for when you actually do need to make a deal. OTOH, maybe it’s better (for us) that they don’t.

by Andee on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

re: Kevin Gregg = bad idea

Are you kidding me? this guy is a shaky reliever at BEST. He’ll be about as good as Sean Green and an injured JJ Putz. stay far away from this former “closer”.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jul 9, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I stand corrected

I didn’t realize Gregg was still a “closer”. he still is awful though.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jul 9, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Oswalt

Said it before and Ill say it again, if we can take on payroll hes the better option than Lee, since he has to cost less in talent and in a year we’ll get some more talent when he wants away from arby.

Lets see what they want and how much salary room we have.

by DWEEEZ on Jul 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Oswalt just costs less and still gives us a very good SP

just looking back on that post 2 days ago on SP, he would rank in the #1 range I believe and that would push Tak2 into the pen. thus making our worst start, a very good solid #3 Neise

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt is looking great lately

just tossed a CG 1 hitter last time out. It’s like these guys know they are on the market so they are pitching great to draw up the asking price. Not fair.

by David G on Jul 9, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

no disrespect to roy

but wasnt that against the pirates?

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have agreed with that, i dont see his contract as a problem

but still dont think it will take that much less talent to get him

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is the classy right thing to do

I LARRY chant as a send off to a guy who just destroyed us, it is well deserved and the good sportmanship thing to do.

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 9, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously.

He will definitely be one of my most-missed opposing players. I mean, he named his kid Shea for chrissakes. Who does that?

by Jamesir Bensonmum on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I insist that someone bring the Larry Stooge faces

to put up in lieu of “K” signs while he’s being “Larried.” For me, that was the crowning touch in ’99.

by Andee on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, its the only proper sendoff to a worthy adversary

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jul 9, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apropos of nothing

I hope LeBron spends the remainder of his years waking up in a pool of his own filth. Something about the Yankees makes me think of LeBron. . . .

by tmu on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It was really sad

how he chose to play that out. He has a right to earn a living where he wants but doing it that way was cruel and unusual to Cleveland. And ESPN is a joke for getting on board with it.

I think the owner was a little out of line and unprofessional with the letter, though. Lebron did make him many millions richer.

by David G on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The letter was very strange.

Possible explanations: (1) alcohol, (2) a very poor attempt to fake “Everyman.”

by Kepler on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

Using the Comic Sans font to express anger is very strange.

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I LOVED the letter

in that it was Epic Win and Epic Fail at the same time. But it does give you an insight into LeBron’s decision (besides the whole Delonte West thing.) LeBron made that guy a lot of money, and there was zero sense of “being bitterly disappointed, but thanks, etc.” Instead, the letter makes it seem liek LeBron would be nothing without the Cavs.

That said, LeBron did not have to humiliate the team on prime-time television.

by tmu on Jul 9, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

(1) alcohol

My guess. He did write it pretty late at night.

I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away

by TradeAndruw on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes perfect sense

I’ve written angry alcohol-fueled late-night screeds like that before, I just don’t have the platform to publicize them like the president of a professional sports franchise does.

by JoshNY on Jul 9, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

this ESPN

is like the mtv of sports at this point.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 9, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so going to a team that gives him a better chance to win a championship makes him a bad person

I really don’t understand this reaction at all. It’s mind boggling and incredibly frustrating.

by Mike Clemente on Jul 9, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry your mind is boggled and you are frustrated, but

the reaction, in most cases, has less to do with where he went and more to do with how he made it and announced it — how the “decision” played out, with the suffocating, overwhelming, pathological narcissism — a primetime special, refusing to notify the teams that “lost out” until minutes before a televised, primetime announcement? Who does he think he is? Someone who has accomplished something?

Re: the championship, you’d think it would be more meaningful if you, you know, led a team to a championship yourself, instead of opting to go to an already stacked team and sharing the load. It’s not as bad as signing with a richer team (e.g., Yankees) that wins on a slanted playing field. But ask Kobe how he felt about the titles with Shaq versus the titles without. The greatest players don’t need to walk right into a ready-made championship team. Why didn’t he want to show that he could elevate the players around him, like Jordan did? Hell, I could join that team and probably win a championship.

It’s really too bad, because he had way too much, way too soon, and though he initially showed signs of being able to deal with it, he ultimately succumbed to the attention and “Entourage” lifestyle and became a caricature of himself — a petulant, ego-driven prima donna. I hope he chokes.

by tmu on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's a moron, too

I’m 100% convinced that the Bulls with Lebron would be a better team than the Heat with Lebron They are 2 great players, one very good player, and a whole lot of nothing. Unless they get really lucky filling out that roster and LeBron and Wade somehow mesh perfectly, that team will not win a championship.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

naw pat riley's friggin magic

they still have 8 million in cap room somehow.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 10, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

but don't they need like 8 more players?

I don’t know, I just don’t see them being all that great. Yes, individually those 3 are very talented, but LeBron and Wade play a similar game – they don’t complement each other the way Garnett, Pierce, and Allen do in Boston. And somehow I doubt the Heat are going to luck into Rajon Rondo 2.0.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jul 10, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I agree for the most part

but I think if Riley has put them in a pretty good situation to attempt it

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 10, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

making a ridiculous 1 hour tv show out of it for one

also, choosing to side kick with the other player in the NBA who is just below Kobe level and Bosh instead of being the only big man on his team is a weak way out, imo. i dont think many other stars would have chosen that, they would have wanted to do it on their own. the good thing about it for lebron haters is that anything less than a few championships would completely tarnish his ‘legend’ (as well as D Wade, who i did actually like)

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's sort of like saying

his hunger to win is so great that he’s happy to start the 100 m dash 20 m ahead. This is the sort of thinking that leads to PEDs and doping.

by tmu on Jul 9, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

usain bolt would probably give everyone a 20 m lead and still win

I like Ike

by astromets on Jul 9, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think it gives them a better chance to win a championship

given that they’re literally expecting 3 players, one who already struggles to stay healthy in Wade, to play 48 minutes a night for 82 games and then 48 minutes a night through 3 play-off series and then still have something left against the best the west has to offer. Not to mention with 0 front court defense.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they won 68 games and got knocked out of the play-offs before the conference finals. It’s just not realistic to expect guys to stay healthy or have anything left after that much of a workload.

Not to mention Lebron was half the problem in Cleveland, a lot of the bad contracts they have now they have because they were trying to please him. The Varejao contract was to keep him happy, the Jamison trade, I’m pretty sure he wanted Mo Williams too. And now they’re stuck with those players.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 9, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebron does

but his offball d is horrid. Bosh not so much.

I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson

by Gina on Jul 9, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Schneider and Valdez carrying the Phils

Plus Figgy got them some big outs in extra innings last night. Weird.

by David G on Jul 9, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

They are indebted to us, now.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think i've felt that way since 2000

i feel like that guy in greek mythology who has his guts eat each day by birds only to have them heal back each night then have them eat again..such is a mets fan life

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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