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Mets 1, Phillies 0: Dickey Throws One-Hitter, Puts It In The Books

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R.A. Dickey sent the fans home satisfied, tossing a masterful one-hit shutout against Shane Victorino, Cole Hamels and the rest of the clowns down I-95. And it was a legitimately dominant start -- seven strikeouts, one walk and thirteen swinging strikes. That's back-to-back shutouts for the Mets, coincidentally (or not?) taking place during Frankie Rodriguez's stay in gen pop. A sixth inning single by Hamels accounted for the Phils' only base knock. Dickey's ERA is now 2.43, good for sixth in the league, behind the likes of Adam Wainwright, Roy Halladay and Josh Johnson.

The knuckleball was working tonight, and Dickey threw it on 97 out of 105 pitches, or 92% of the time. He usually throws it around 83% of the time. The knuckler's velocity ranged from 68 mph all the way to 81 mph. For reference, Dickey's average knuckleball velocity (76.3 mph) is about 10 mph higher than Tim Wakefield's (65.9 mph) on the season. Per Mark Simon at ESPNNY, this is the fourth time in Mets history that they have tossed a one-hitter and the opposing pitcher accounted for the only hit. Blart, as they say.

Carlos Beltran doubled home David Wright in the sixth inning, giving R.A. all the run support he needed. There was some drama in the bottom of the fifth inning, when Mike Hessman hit what was originally ruled a home run over the left field fence. Phillies left fielder Raul Ibanez felt there was some kind of fan interference and channeled Dikembe Mutombo in his protest to the umpiring crew as Dicktorino acted like his douchey self:

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After a way-too-long video review, the umpires curiously turned the home run into a triple. Replays were not 100% conclusive, but it seemed to be a home run. There surely wasn't incontrovertible visual evidence to overturn the initial call, to borrow from the NFL (I'm not exactly sure what the rule is in MLB). It appears the men in blue messed up on this one. That put Big Hess on third base with none out -- should be no problem to drive him in, right? Not when Jeff Francoeur is the next batter. Here's Frenchy's at-bat in visual form:

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To be fair, one of the three pitches he swung at and missed was in the strike zone. That's an improvement. Facepalm. He swung at six of the seven pitches he saw in three at-bats tonight. Henry Blanco followed with a hideous strikeout of his own, and Dickey grounded out after Ruben Tejada was intentionally walked. No runs for you.

I've vowed to change the channel during any future Francoeur at-bats this season. His presence on the roster is flabbergasting. If I were still in college, I would write a sociology paper on Frenchy's ability to receive significant MLB playing time based almost solely on his personality. On this Friday the 13th, Jason Francoeur has a .666 OPS. I'm calling him "The Omen" from now on:

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(via squid92)

Despite the Frenchy negativity and subpar offense, this was the best win of the year and makes four straight shutouts of the Phillies at Citi Field. The Braves beat the Dodgers 1-0 tonight thanks to a terrific Tim Hudson start, and now hold a three game lead over the second place Philth. Good. I will be rooting for [team ahead of the Phillies] the rest of the season.

Ryota Igarashi and Raul Valdes were optioned to make way for Saturday night starter Pat Misch and a reinstated Frankie Rod. Misch's opponent is slated to be Roy Halladay.

Unintentionally sexual quote of the game: "It felt good coming out of my hand all night." -- Dr. R.A. Dickey, on his knuckleball

Poem by Howard Megdal

No hits made our hearts, like a knuckleball, flutter
Dickey's destiny undone by a pitcher: we mutter
The bearded magician has been team's bread and butter
Without him, imagine! We collectively shudder

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SB Nation Coverage

* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* The Good Phight Gamethread

Win Probability Added

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Big winners: R.A. Dickey +71.9% (as pitcher), Carlos Beltran +12.4%
Big losers: Jeff Francoeur -11.5%, Jose Reyes -9.7%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Carlos Beltran RBI double +18.0%
Teh sux0rest play: Henry Blanco strikeout -8.4%
Total pitcher WPA: +71.9%
Total batter WPA: -21.9%
GWRBI!: Carlos Beltran

Game Thread Roll Call

Nice job by Gina; her effort in the game thread embiggens us all.

Num Name # of Posts
1 Gina 102
2 fxcarden 97
3 NetsMets4Life 76
4 Evan_S 73
5 jdon 55
6 aparkermarshall 53
7 Michkin 52
8 JetsMetsNets 51
9 Syler 46
10 BrockRocks 41

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The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Aug 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

R.A.

!

We've got ourselves a ball club, the Mets of New York town!

by kingcritical on Aug 13, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Fangraphs WAR underrates his production since it's based on FIP.

Batters can’t make solid contact against him. Statcorner’s WAR pegs him at 2.4 WAR (tRA based).

In lobby campaign for Chris Carter.

by Michkin on Aug 13, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was 1.9 before this start

It could be 2.2 or so now. Over a full season thats about 4 WAR which is a really good pitcher

by supermets on Aug 13, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

over a full season it'd be way more than that

since he missed like 1/4th of the season

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Creampie in the face"

Nice work Bob Ojeda, nice work.

by Evan_S on Aug 13, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that possible?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Ojeda knows what a cream pie is

or a blue waffle, pink taco, or a bu-cake

SCORE FOR R.A DICKEY
R.A Dickey=2011 N.L CY YOUNG AWARD WINNER

by The American Mr.Hockey on Aug 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talking Chop loves Dickey.

"Based on stereotypes that are totally untrue and I do not agree with, you would maybe-not be a very good driver..."

"Oh man am I a woman?!"

by Scott Coleman on Aug 13, 2010 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah well when i was on that site earlier in the year

people were hating on him and not believing

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Aug 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm proud to say I believed in Dickey since before the season started.

I’m the only one to lobby in my AAOP.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos to you sir.

You know your Dickey.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

touche'

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Aug 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Mets demote Ryota Igarashi and Raul Valdes

So we’re still going to have Dessens and Perez on the roster….what a joke

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 13, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

As I was walking upon the stair...

I met a pitcher who wasn’t there…
He wasn’t there again today.
I wish Ollie would go away.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perez has no options(does he?)

And to be fair….Dessens hasn’t been THAT bad.

by BrockRocks on Aug 13, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a veteran player

He can refuse assignment to the minors

by Evan_S on Aug 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's already BEEN at the snack bars....

Who doesn’t LOVE DICKEY?! What an Ace in Action that Dickey has been….

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 14, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's been worth -0.2 WAR

He has 11 Ks and 11 walks.

He sucks

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

These guys really seem to know what they're doing. That's a relief.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its going to be him.

Rubin reported he is likely to come up soon a few days ago.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was before he got optioned

which means we are probably going to non tender him unless he has an unlikely good september

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Aug 13, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. okay then.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fuck for who?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

really we're already activating K-rod

he should be put on for like 20 days

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, MLBPA only allows for 2 days

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 13, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought this too...

But it seems that he does not have Goodell-like powers.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's weird MLB seems to have some of the most archaic attitudes

of the 3 major sports…yet they seem to have the least actual power and least actual interest in the healthiness of their sport as a whole.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Sorry I missed that comment. I was too busy shooting hormones into my keister. Is that bad?

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

.
of the 3 major sports

AHEM, Hockey would like to have a word with you…

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 13, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, you should really like the NHL

they suffer from the same MSM BS that the Mets and SABERS do.

AND, like the Mets, they have a penchant for shooting themselves in the foot.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gina's from the South, though

I can get how hockey wouldn’t be her thing. Most of the people who I know who like hockey, 90% are basically clustered in the upper midwest/northeast area, either having been born, grown up, or lived there for some time.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The little square cold things

in your drink.

--
"No left turn unstoned"
(road sign created by the Merry Pranksters)

by Paul1951 on Aug 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 out of the last 6 Stanley Cup winner have been from the South

Tampa Bay Lightning in 03/04 and Carolina in 05/06 (you also have a S. West team in Anaheim in 06/07).

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Florida

and California don’t count since they are giant theme parks

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I wouldn't really consider Florida the south

too many transplants.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably the historian in me

but I think of the south as the confederate states, but at that time Florida had about 150,000 people I think, so it’s identity is really based on 20th century tourism and retirement IMO.

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah for the most part same here

as far as south=confederate states. But a lot of weird people include arkansas, texas and oklahoma which I don’t get.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I include Arkansas as part of "The South"

I think it’s because of the accent. Texas is clearly not part of “The South”, though. It’s the Southwest.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Texas is just

so huge and has such a unique history (independence and all that) that it’s just “Texas”. Also it has an east coast technically, so I would have trouble thinking of it as southwest. I’d say the southwest was AZ, New Mexico, SoCal and Southern Nevada. Pacific Northwest would be Cal. north of San Fran plus Oregon and Washington. The Mountains and the Midwest would be the rest of the country west of the Mississippi I suppose, plus the Great Lakes region. I’m rambling anyway, that’s just how I see it.

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida was confederate.

So was Arkansas (part of the south). I got by who has a SEC team, plus Virginia and North Carolina, which is pretty much the metric in the south.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

but Florida was so sparsely populated then, that was my only gripe

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmmm

You ever been to 90% of Florida? Clearly the south.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been to the part you're talking about

but 90% of the population doesn’t live in that part.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's take a look...

1. Florida is the one state in America that has a law on the books prohibitng gays from adopting (a judge overturned, currently on appeal to the state supreme court).
2. There are only 3 cabinet positions in Florida. One of the three is Commissioner of Agriculture.
3. The Panhandle is known as south Alabama.
4. Every other place besides Miami. Even Orlando and Tampa are pretty southern once your scratch the surface, and are incredibly southern once you get about 10 miles out of town. I once went boggin after a wedding outside of Orlando. In my tux.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol yeah I lived in the panhandle

but most of the population is concentrated in the miami area.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

also like deadspy said

it really wasn’t part of the old antebellum south. I’d consider it more hickish than southern and, no offense. I think northerners get hickish and southern heavily confused. Florida has hick parts like Ohio and Western PA, and all of West Virginia, have hick parts. That’s not really the same as being southern.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking purely geographically.

Florida is in the Southern region of the continental US.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hicks in those regions are Hillbillies

There’s a difference.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't baseball, hockey and football the major sports?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

In 1998 I would have argued...

But given what basketball has done to itself the last decade. Yeah, no argument.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh,

basketball has screwed up a bit since he left the 2nd time but they’re still up there in terms of the major sports IMO.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Aug 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait till the NBA and NFL have lockouts

Then they’ll all know my pain!

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the owners nerfed the commissioners powers bigtime after Fay Vincent

Bud Selig can’t really do anything unless the owners and/or union give their blessings.

by FrancoTAU on Aug 14, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

which is probably why there's so much effed upness in baseball

I’m not a fan of Stern or Goodell by any means but I think it’s much better for the health of the sport for the leagues being operated under one commissioner rather than acting as separate entities like with baseball.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

really most rules seem to say it can be indefinite.

and if not MLB can’t the team suspend him?

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say what?

The guy’s father-in-law treated him like garbage in front of Roddy’s wife, and his mother. Rodriguez popped him. Seems reasonable to me, but if you have to, fine him and let it go.

by Jack Str on Aug 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

popped him?

multiple security guards had to pull him off him, he didn’t just pop him and keep moving he was clearly trying to inflict serous bodily harm and would have if not for interventon, on mets property, in the area where other players meet their families.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know how security works?

They don’t generally pull people off of other people. They get in front of the belived aggressor, cutting off lines of attack. Then they remove the person. Even someone no longer attacking the other may need a bunch of guys to bring him down the hall.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude...If his father was Humiliating him in front of his wife and mother ALSO IN FRONT OF STRANGERS...well...

if this is true, while I don’t condone what he did, I’m not too surprised that this is his reaction.

It might well have been mine, actually….Some stuff you do AT HOME BEHIND closed doors. Not out in public.

The Father-in-law, IMO, is the one in the wrong here for opening his big trap and saying garbage to him….

by BrockRocks on Aug 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah you're agreeing with me :)

What I was saying is that “multiple security guard pulled him off of another guy” is SOP for even the most minor of tussles, because it usually implies that multiple guards are used to escort a guy off the premises out of an abundance of caution. It does not imply an attempt to inflict serious bodily harm. It may be that that was his intent,. but security procedures in the absence of other evidence are not proof either way. Sorry if that was not clear.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The season is on the line

And, to be honest, I’m glad. Eff it. The father in law is going to be ok. You know how many fights there have been in baseball that we don’t hear about? Maybe not so much now because the press is everywhere. But back when “baseball was baseball,” i.e. the glory years 40s through the 70s, there must have been a lot of that stuff going on and it was kept in the vault.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kept in the vault?

As in Dickey keeping it “in the vault” and not taking it out?

by BrockRocks on Aug 14, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

so?

we should just let people assault each other because there’s a slim to none chance we’ll contend this year? that’s crazy.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Aug 14, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, you might be one to something

If punching your father-in-law results in 2 wins in a row, just imagine what assaulting your mother-in-law would do!

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah so do I...

For the record, if you feel that punching someone in order for a baseball game to turn out differently is reasonable, seek professional help. :P

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, man:

Whatever works.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to introduce you to my friend Hyperbole

I believe you know his cousins Sarcasm and Facetiousness.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having started this thread...

I think that with this ending my awareness of all three should be apparent.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 15, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't kick someone on the field...

That got 7 games. So give him 7 games, or something similar, and let the courts do the rest.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually sorta pissed about this game.

This really could have been the no no. Figures it was fucking Hamels to get the hit. He must have been all angry about being lined in his thigh. Good thing he has tiny balls or that could have been worse.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh crap....

Detail I did not know. Then again, if I missed the one no-hitter I’m likelty to ever see because I was taking children to the pool for charity (no entendre either) I would have blown a gasket…

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being angry that a Mets SH one hitter by a 35 year old career minor leaguer was not the No No...

Is like being pissed that the girl you took home while ragingly drunk was not Bar Rafeili….

Just be happy.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dickey

came up HUGE for us today

(II)

by secret defense on Aug 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

man

i wish i could have seen this game. sounds excellent and 4th shutout in a row at citi versus the phils

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Aug 13, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh. It was slow and boring towards the start..

but once Dickey was really hot towards the end it was fun. Also, two CG in a row.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had 2 k's after one?

and i love pitchers duels

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Aug 13, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good game throughout

but was slow at first.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch them not.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

But wasn't...at least in the short term...

When we signed him…

This is my point exactly..,

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats not really true

Perez’s suckiness could have been predicted by anyone who looked at the three straight years of velocity decline.

2 pitches
no control
no velocity

not exactly a winning combination. There were plenty of people in here who thought he was a disaster waiting to happen. Maybe not to this extent, but to the extent we had almost no chance of ever seeing a return on the investment.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, no control

no control
a shit ton of walks
and no control

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

well the no control isn't as much of a problem

when he has a 92-94 mph fastball to go with a nasty slider that no one, including him, ever know where it was going.

the problems came when the fastball turned into 90 mph.

his fastball was/is fairly straight too isn’t it? Which is a MAJOR problem when you’re throwing 90-88 mph.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

I agree with the no return on investment thing, but he had some good outings before being given that ridonkulous contract.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

he and Maine had some good outs this year, pitchers have good outings all the time. if you go back and look at his splits he was basically trash for all but like 2.5 months of the season.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...

you think Minaya knew that Perez’s BABIP against in 2008 was .276, meaning he actually pitched a lot worse than the 100 ERA+ he put up?

by Jack Str on Aug 14, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

well no but that wasn't the argument

the point was more that anyone could have seen it, we’ve obviously long since established that Manuel and Omar always fall outside of the anyone category.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Understood. I was being ironic.

I was just mulling over how insanely many signs there were that Perez was nothing special. Nothing special at all.

by Jack Str on Aug 14, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Minaya

was most likely drunk when he re-signed OP….and thought he was the greatest pitcher alive…

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 14, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Aug 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

pause

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

You’ve never been burnt by….Oh forget it.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What?

I said I DON’T wanna be burnt by Dickey. I just want Dickey to come in, go deep, and beat that other team. We just can’t expect Dickey to go forever.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

...oof.

sorry, but that was DEFINITELY intentional. nice try, though.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Aug 14, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit....

You beat me to hitting “Post” on a statement that read.

“Wait, crap, I’m an idiot. Well done.”

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

burnt can be slang

for receiving a veneral disease from someone.

ex. you never know she could be earning her man/and learnin her man/ and at the same time burning her man- (Snoop Dogg in Nothing but a G Thing.)

ex. ain’t no (female genitalia) good enough to get burnt while I’m up in it- Dr. Dre in Nothing but a G Thing-

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously,

Dr. Dre is a real doctor.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Dre, Obs. and Gyno.

“Now madam, why don’t you relax while I get up in it”

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

As long as they don't party with Dr. K...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am just having to cross my legs for any discussion

involving both Dickey and burning. Please keep Dickey away from the naked flame. Unless that is a possible new nickname for him.

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dickey used to be a flamethrower...

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was he

“The Naked Flamethrower”!?

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

With our luck...

Dickey will be injured in a freak accident the one time someone ignores the first rule of cooking bacon.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't cook bacon?

Nah, I love bacon. My ancestors might cringe, but it’s so, so good.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd assume he meant

the first rule of cooking bacon is to not cook naked? Because the hot grease might jump on his dickey.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 15, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay.

I thought maybe it was like one of those Fight Club rules: The first rule of cooking bacon is that you don’t cook bacon.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 15, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

bacon tartare?

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

really

we want him to beat those pussies on the other team up

I like Ike, I hate Jerry

by astromets on Aug 14, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Knuckleballers usually "get it" later in their careers

I think if you look at Wakefield and some of the others.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Aug 14, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it's not like Dickey has been pitching in the majors as long as Wakefield did

I’m just saying we need to be wary of how R.A. will pitch next season. I like the dude as much as anyone, but he’s not an automatic to be this good again next season.

by Evan_S on Aug 14, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

True but don't you think by now that the proverbial "Book" is out on R.A. Dickey by other Teams at this point?

If they haven’t figured him out by now, they’ll never figure him out.

Besides….A Knuckleball is harder to hit than any other pitch that isn’t 97-100 MPH….

by BrockRocks on Aug 14, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

His success isn't by luck though

He gets a decent number of Ks, walks very few, and gets a ton of groundballs.

I’m not saying he’s a 2ish ERA pitcher, but there’s no reason to expect him to revert back to the old crappy RA Dickey.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 14, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

neither does he

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

There is a reason why he’s been a journeyman pitcher.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that doesn't mean his success isn't by luck

it just means it isn’t a direct result of defensive/park based luck. Like Evan said players have played well above their heads for a full season before before plummeting again.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again, I don't expect him to pitch to a 2s ERA

Yes, there is a chance he reverts back to his old self next year

But given that he’s pitching completely different than he was even going back to 2008, I don’t see why he couldn’t be a very solid 5th starter at worst.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 14, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a given he won't be as good ever again,

but he doesn’t have to be. If he can put up a 4.00 ERA in 180 innings that’s extremely valuable.

We can say knuckleballers can pitch well into their forties, but the truth is most don’t. If it’s not the arm going, it’s the back, the knees, the overall stamina…

So, what would people as GM of the Mets offer him, trying to maximize the return?

by Jack Str on Aug 14, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be a little more reserved

2 years with a team option for a 3rd. You offer decent money, say 5-7M per, and I think he’d accept.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

The money seems right since he's been so phenomenal,

but he could also turn into a pumpkin tomorrow. If I offered 2/12 (which may even be a little on the high side given he’s had all of one good season) I’d want a club option for a third year at around the same price. Perhaps even a second option year.

by Jack Str on Aug 14, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah no reason to give a 35 yo a 4 or 5 year deal...

We’ve been burned by stuff like that waaaay too much, knuckleballer or not.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that IS a given.

Nothing’s a given. We’re treading in pretty much uncharted waters right now.

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Aug 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah classic lolmets

would be going into next season relying on him WAY too much

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That too.

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 13, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You all ought to relax

They’re going to keep him. He’s apparently been a favorite of Omar’s for a few years.

by SuperT on Aug 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the money.

What is Dickey able to get, and are the Mets going to be able to pay that?

by Jack Str on Aug 14, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

im pretty sure he's only arb eligible

he doesn’t have enough service time

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 14, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

happy as a dickey though if they do

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 14, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dickey also put it in the Phillies

Thank god for him. Without Dickey and Pagan, this season is a total failure.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.

by AnthonyR on Aug 13, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Just noticed that in the post game

After the unintentionally sexual quote “It felt good coming out of my hand all night” he then added “I just relaxed and didn’t fight my body” . Then he said at the end “as long as we play hard and keep pitching hard we are going to put on a good show” Hey now.

by Bruce Wayne on Aug 13, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Oh, Dickey!

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What hasn't been said?

Dickey was awesome.

He’s our ace in the hole.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

R.A. Dickey looks grissiony enough

to get trapped up to his waist in rock and sand in a forbidden, forgotten Indian burial vault and survive it.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the game...

How does a HR get turned into a triple? Isn’t it HR, ground rule double, on out? WTF went on here?

by MookieTheCat on Aug 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw a replay on Sportsnight

It was apparently borderline, on-the-orange-line to begin with, and a fan might or might not have touched it at some point while it was in the air.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 13, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently,

a fan interfered with the ball as it was in the air. On the replay, I think if it’s not ruled a HR, the batter will remain at the base he reached.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Aug 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say what?

This is the dumbest rule/ruling I’ve heard in a long time. How does someone reach 3rd in the time it takes a ball to reach the wall? It’s impossible. 270 feet in a few seconds? The world record for the 100 yard dash is just over 9 seconds. This is 90 yards run by someone not a world record sprinter who had to turn a few times. . You mean to tell me the HR stayed in the air 15 seconds? The point of ground rule doubles is to give some sort of fairness to a ball that happens to pop out of play, because of the built-in problems with the question of “where would he have been.”. It’s either a HR or a GRD, there is no in-between. I reaffirm my reluctance to accept replay in baseball because of things like this.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The replay was to decide

if it was a HR or a fan interference. The umps decided that it was interference. The rule for FI has always been the umps decide which base to award the player, so they chose third. Apparently Jerry lobbied for a triple. Dunno why the umps listened.

by supermets on Aug 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the praise of Hessman for legging it out...

But the fans are part of the stadium. They are outside of the playing field. And if there was no chance of catching it, the umps can decide rule is bunk. Kind of like the refs in football being considered part of the field. Has any fan interference call ever been called right? If it goes out, it goes out, if not, let the man run.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the Umps assume that because Hessman was at 2nd and past it when the ball hit off the...wherever it hit....

Hessman was on his way to third.

That ball had some hang-time…Also remember that. Hessman, to his credit, did not assume anything(cough cough Timo Perez) and busted his azz out of the box.

That’s how he was awarded the triple.

by BrockRocks on Aug 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It should've stayed a home run

Number one—the apple went up. Umpire<apple.
Number two—it should’ve counted just to show up Ibanez and Victorino for just standing there gesturing. Shouldn’t they have thrown the ball to the infield?
Also, maybe it actually was, I didn’t see the replay.

by pologroundling on Aug 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with any argument that presents

the apple and Victorino’s douchiness as evidence.

by SuperT on Aug 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

This...

They should have given Hessman 2 HRs. One for his own effort and another as penance for douchebaggery. As if Ibanez and Dicktorino have any moral ground to take away another guy’s BS HR? They have made careers of the same.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you may be thinking of when he hit a weak pop to right...

In a normal ballpark and assumed he hit a HR….But you and I are both probably right in any event…

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year in August

Pagan inside the park homer. One of the few highlights of the season.

by James Kannengieser on Aug 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

AA seemed so unlively then.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

Dickey Cy Young/MVP and Braves/Phillies collapse

AA lives

by James Kannengieser on Aug 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just wanna make sure:

Whereas Dickey is concerned, MVP stands for ‘Most Valuable Player’, right?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, we kind of got it

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Aug 14, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sad recap...Saddest Part...

Big winners: Daniel Murphy, +21.2% WPA, Luis Castillo, +19.9% WPA
Big losers: Oliver Perez, -40.3% WPA, Jeff Francoeur, -35.9% WPA

Wow. Just wow. Just wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Just fucking a year later wow.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes me question the maxim...

Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is

he can still be an asset (presuming he can come back full strength from the knee). He just has to be handled properly.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's the Irish Hammer

That’s got to count for something.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLUE COLLAR BLAAAAAAAAST

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Aug 14, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

By "handled properly"

I meant taught how to play 2B in non-game situations.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Aug 14, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that the Triple Play game?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 14, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Aug 14, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, looks like I missed a goodun

I was wishing some visiting honeymooners congratulations and getting drunk. Ah well.

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Woooo

Love me some Dickey!

Seriously, as a Tennessee fan, I’ve always liked him.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Aug 14, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at the game tonight

DICKEY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

SCORE FOR R.A DICKEY
R.A Dickey=2011 N.L CY YOUNG AWARD WINNER

by The American Mr.Hockey on Aug 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome win for you guys, but I’d rather not see Jeff Francoeur in a loincloth.

The birth of Jason Heyward was God’s punishment for the sins of the people in New York and Philly.

by TonyAlmeyda on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Have you seen "Teeth"?

Unsettling yet quirky film. I enjoyed it.

by James Kannengieser on Aug 14, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

but I’ve heard of it. I’ll check it out.

by deadspy3 on Aug 14, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

its hilarious

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 15, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'll take credit for that...abomination

John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.

by squid92 on Aug 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching this game with a Phils fan was awesome

I will be ordering my Dickey jersey tomorrow

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Amen, already trying to find a cheap one on ebay

"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage

by blueandorange4life on Aug 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not like it matters anymore, but a camera view on Quick Pitch showed the fan clearly interefered with Hessman's ball

So I guess the umpires don’t totally suck….no, wait, they still do

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Aug 14, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but

The last time Mets pitchers threw back-to-back complete-game shutouts was May 14-15, 2002, when Pedro Astacio and Jeff D’Amico did it.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Aug 14, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

You just made whoever compared this year to 2002 the other night look really, really smart. Sorry to whoever it was trhe other night for dogging you….

by MookieTheCat on Aug 14, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the game, but was Dickey as good as his boxscore?

You know he’s on when every lefty hits weak grounders to the first base side.

by FrancoTAU on Aug 14, 2010 2:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Dickey could've had a No-Hitter but some dumbass in this blog, as usual, Jinxed the whole thing.

He promptly got his butt kicked out, it looks like.

I think his name was newyorksports or something like that….

by BrockRocks on Aug 14, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Geez. Everytime.

It’s the first rule of being a baseball fan… not even just being on AA.

by FrancoTAU on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Seriously? What the fuck, man…

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Some people just dont fucking understand…. I mean I knew where he was coming from but….. for Gods sakes

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 14, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying, this is the ESPN NY top story headline

“Dickey tosses 1-hitter; Yankees all wet”

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Aug 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

This is the second 1-hitter this year for NYM, isn’t it?

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III

by Chris McKeown on Aug 14, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Niese threw one back in…June?

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup,

against San Diego.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Aug 14, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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