Matt Harvey Signs
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 AM EDT
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PrintNo details have escaped yet, but Keith Law has just reported via Twitter that Matt Harvey has signed with the Mets. No word on whether Matt Harvery has signed, however.
I'll post the details here as soon as we find out, but it's a necessary move. As deep as next year's draft is, it is significant to lose a year of development time from a player. For those who have forgotten, you can read my scouting report on Harvey here.
No word yet on Greg Peavey or any of the other draftees, but news will continue to trickle in all night.
UPDATE: Jon Heyman says the deal is for just over $2.5 million. He would know.
UPDATE: Keith Law confirms that the bonus is $2.525 million. Harvey had supposedly been asking for more, but in next year's draft there was no guarantee that he would be selected in the top 20 with no leverage, considering other viable alternatives and his own contract demands. He stood a lot to lose.
UPDATE: The Columbian reported that sixth-rounder Greg Peavey signed with the Mets a little more than an hour before the deadline. Terms have not yet been disclosed.
UPDATE: Keith Law reports that Peavey's bonus is $200,000.
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Heyman is saying around 2.5 MM
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 17, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
Just posted it in Fanshot
Heyman is reporting it was for a bit over $2.5M after Boras asked $4.5M
I know
that this is better than not signing him. Forgive my pessimism, but I’m pretty pissed at this team.
by Thomas Wachtel on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I would have rather not signed him. I don’t really like him as a prospect, and next year’s draft class is supposed to be fantastic. Potentially having two top 15 picks? Yes please
by yellomellojello on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
They went over slot by a bit too.
“Last year, MLB recommended a $2.178MM bonus for the seventh-overall selection.”
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/mets-to-sign-matt-harvey.html
Well, at least we didn't screw this up?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 17, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Only time will tell...
My money is on screw up eventually, and see FrancoTAU’s comment above. The Mets overpaid. How much they overpaid (or if they…cherish the day…did at all remains to be seen.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This is less than 20% over slot?
My math machine must be messed up or something. Point is that paying 20% more than a small number is nto much better than paying 20% over a large number.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
? Well they took him knowing they were going to go over slot
If they had stuck to slot at #7 we’d probably be stuck with a guy projected to go in the third ronud.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
yeah, going half a mill overslot on top 10 picks is more than fine.
MLB has unrealistically low bonus recommendations for top tier talent. I have no idea why they even do these slot recommendations.
because they half ass everything?
because it’s easier than actually trying to regulate the players union and the owners?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Seriously?
Damn.
Here’s hoping Washington continues to get bled monetarily, making them less of of theoretical future threat.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Good news
Hopefully he turns out to be something special
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Oh and Peavey's hometown newspaper said he signed with us
Nothing on Drew Martinez though
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
And thanks for the tip
Missed that one.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Credit where it's due.
Sensible move by the team, and it doesn’t feel like they overpaid for what they got.
20% overslot for a guy most experts thought was a good #7 pick sounds fine to me
Especially a Boras guy.
I think the best part is that he didn't require a major league deal and a spot on the 40
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually think for top guys it is
I believe Pelfrey was placed on the 40 and got a major league deal, but he was a much higher pick.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I believe Humber was also.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 17, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, that's interesting
I can’t see why a player would really care either way. I doubt a team would bury their top 10 pick for 5+ years unless he was clearly pretty sucky to the point he wouldn’t get Rule V’ed anyways.
It starts using up option years immediately, which allows them to get to arbitration and free agency much quicker
It’s actually a really big deal to the players
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I thought the Nat waited so long to promote Starsburg
so he’d have less than half a year service time? If what you’re saying is true than he burnt through his first year anyways.
no
the idea is using up options, forcing them to leave the player on the team when they might have otherwise sent him down which racks up service time.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Like
and I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure. A player uses option years once their on the 40 whether they’re called up or not. So if he spends 3-4 or how every many option years a player gets up while in the minors and then gets called up they can’t send him back down, even if he’s not ready, without passing him through waivers, and obviously a top prospect wouldn’t make it through waivers unclaimed.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
The only exceptions being if they sign during a season (this year) or spend the entire year on the DL
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all
Being on the active 25 man roster accumulates service time, being on the 40 does not. Being on the 40 uses option years though, giving a player control of whether or not they’ll play in the minors sooner which helps in the long run.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Zach Lee
signing is the biggest shocker of the day for me. Guy was a major football recruit at South Carolina, and was considered the hardest sign in the draft. In fact, many thought the Dodgers only drafted him to avoid paying a bonus this year. Bonus was $5.25 million.
That said, I really, really liked him. Not sure I 5.25 million liked him, but I did have him in my top 15.
Whoops
meant LSU recruit, not South Carolina.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it possible
Harvey will pitch in Brooklyn before their season ends?
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Probably not.
Most deadline signings do not.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad it looks as if Matt Harvery will not be signing.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 17, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions
Don't have final numbers
But my draft is looking like it comes in roughly $400,000 cheaper than the Mets’ which isn’t exactly fair since Josh Sale would have gotten comparable money had he gone #7 instead of Harvey. (Of course, I also got bitten a little when the Indians gave Tyler Holt an absurd $500,000 to sign a few days early—way too much to give to a 10th round college junior with strikeout problems.) That said, both me and the Mets are definitely in the same ballpark, which is my only real goal when I do these things.
Too bad
We drafted a srub when we could have gotten much better pitchers and hitters. Harvey doesn’t have the upside and has to work a lot on his command.
Actually
Harvey has a lot of upside (potential ace upside). The problem is command, as you mention and secondary stuff. But with his fastball, he’s got top of the rotation potential if he progresses.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 17, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely wouldn't call him a scrub.
He’s certainly not the safest pick but he’s definitely not an Eddie Kunz, for example.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 17, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He's pretty much all upside, about as risky a college player as you can get
He might have the best combination of velocity and movement on his fastball in the entire draft, I really don’t see how he has no upside.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Any guess which affiliate he'll join once he does get assigned (probably next year)?
Brooklyn? Savannah? St. Lucie?
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