Francisco Rodriguez Placed On Disqualified List
by Eric Simon on Aug 17, 2010 7:43 PM EDT
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PrintPer Adam Rubin, among others. The short of it is that Francisco Rodriguez, who injured his right thumb after inexplicably fighting with his girlfriend's father after a Mets game last week, will forfeit his remaining 2010 salary and will undergo surgery that would have kept him out of action anyway.
The more interesting part is that the Mets have flipped Rodriguez's deal to a non-guaranteed one, which means they could cut him during spring training next year with little financial consequence. Doing so would not only void the final guaranteed year of his contract, but also the ludicrous $17.5 million vesting option for 2012.
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what seriously?
This might be the best news I’ve heard since 2006.
of course once he comes back healthy we won’t cut him…because we’re the mets.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
seriously good news
I dunno about not cutting him, though. We didn’t waste too much time on Gary Matthews Jr., Mike Jacobs, or Frankie C. Maybe Omar is learning…
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 17, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
how do you stop from being one of omar's "guys"
because whatever it is, lets hope krodman does it, if punching your girlfriend’s dad and landing on the DL for half a season isnt enough already.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Yes! So pleased that we've made it easier to throw away 2011 and 2012!
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
You just don't get it
This team can find a way, way cheaper replacement for KRod, who would likely save games just as well as he did.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
at some point it's not even worth it
he clearly doesn’t want to listen to reason so why try. He’s made up his mind.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
It's sad that he's retreated to hild old troll territory
If he thinks Frankie’s presence could help the team fie, but the above comment was only meant to provoke.
You had turned a corner, metsguy!
by Pack Bringley on Aug 17, 2010 7:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i agree
I realize that having a good reliever for high leverage situations late in games is important there are far cheaper options than KRod. If you look at so called elite closers’ salaries versus their WAR, they are almost always overpaid.
K-Rod ain't all that.
like Syler points out……we can have nearly the same results at far less cost.
Hey !. Don't talk to my mami like that.
I'm the last person to believe in chemistry
but if ANYONE’S presence hurts the team in the clubhouse, it’s gonna be K-Rod.
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
This is full of win.
Now, maybe they can cut Frankie and used the money saved to cut Ollie and Castillo lose.
Hey !. Don't talk to my mami like that.
You're a funny guy
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
lol seriously
we’ll take the 13 million and sign Hudson to a 4/32 deal
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
So
there must have been some clause in the contract about personal behavior that allows them to change it to non-guaranteed. I have never heard of that in baseball?
it is standard language in every contract.
players are expected to behave.
Hey !. Don't talk to my mami like that.
you mean the Phillies aren't paying Urbina in the Venezuelan convict league?
/snark
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 17, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently they struck a deal with the players union
this was the compromise to trying to void the whole thing
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 17, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
maybe they can get zoidberg to eat his contract
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
by kendynamo on Aug 17, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zoidberg made the diagnosis
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
Great news, almost make's the absurdity worth it
…..almost. Of course, we all know they won’t actually cut him, but it’s worth dreaming about
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Aug 17, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
The still have to fight it out legally
But its nice that the Mets are actually contemplating it.
How many lists does MLB have?
a disabled list?, a restricted list and a disqualified list?
learn so much from one punch
The Jerk List called
They’re running out of you.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes....
And the genesis was that the ocean called, and it’s running out of shrimp.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this isn't a good sign:
Union head Mike Weiner on K-Rod: The #Mets actions are without basis and I expect the union will challenge them right away
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
i dont blame the union
thats what unions do. in this case i dont think its nuts to try and help krod get as much money as possible. theyre stance on drug testing, on the other hand, that was nuts to me.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
eh their stance on drug testing isn't really that bad
they’re argument is that the tests aren’t really accurate or proven enough at this point, which is true, to ruin players careers.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Now its not
But before the current rules, they were being nuts with the first time warning only for guys being caught.
the fact they didnt seek out better testing to implement on their own is nuts to me
keeping steroids out of baseball and their players healthy should be near the top if not #1 on the MLBPA’s list of goals. thats if it’s me in the union talking anyway. i can see why the wouldnt have wanted to do things the way the owners proposed a the time but its in all the players best interest to minimize the incentives to use steroids. but people put their paychecks over personal safety.
thats why i dont care if players used steroids. it was their choice. theyre the one’s who’s bodies ultimately pay the price so its not my place to tell them otherwise.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I'm just saying
If they’re this volatile towards KRod losing $3 million, lord only knows how they’ll react if we try and take $30 million from him
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
well they're probably volatile
because turning it non guaranteed is essentially taking 30 million back. They overestimate us.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
That's teh Unionfor ya.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 17, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They're right, I think
I can see the case for suspending him w/o pay for 2010.
I can see the case for claiming he’s in violation of the CBA and terminating the contract.
But I can’t see this half-and-half thing, where he’s bound to the Mets but not the other way around.
except apparently the union doesn't see it that way
cause they’re douches
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Weiner?
Mike Weiner? Does he throw a knuckleball? If so I think we will be able to work out a solution…
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This disqualified list applies beyond 2010?
I’ve never heard of it so am seeking some clarification.
Now it is time
for the mets to leak any and all incidents involving KRod, no matter how small. I am sure some have been covered up.
no chance the union lets them release k-rod for 2011 `
he’s going to be healthy, so he’s going to play in 2011, and his contract will vest for 2012. don’t get your hopes up thinkin otherwise.
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
Maybe a competent manager won't put KRod in as many meaningless situations as Jerry did
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
and luckily the mets will take care of limiting
meaningful situations
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Like toss 100 warm-up pitches in the pen?
Isn’t it better for the front office to work on voiding his contract right away instead of waiting until ST ‘11 to attempt to cut him so that it doesn’t affect winter budgeting?
The general public may not have the entire story behind the incident but there is no way to recover from this PR mess if K-Rod is still around next year.
by Scooby Snacks on Aug 17, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
k-rod
If Frankie just shut up and did his job, I wouldn’t have a problem with him, even with his ridiculous contract. He was having a pretty good year. His off the field antics like fighting the bullpen coach distracted from his on field success and he crossed a big line when he assaulted his father-in-law. There are so many cheaper options as good or better that aren’t going to attack coaches or family members.
think the Padres will trade us Heath Bell?
sigh………..
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 17, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
after Ok rod leaves
a lot of the closers in the league will hold a grudge against the Mets. Except Wagner, who they fellated.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 17, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
I have a hard time believing players would own grudges. Considering got into a fight around other players families, like kids and wives. I would imagine that’s not something most players would want around.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
well i was exagerating but a certain plump san diego closer HATES the mets
and OkRod will be pissed if all goes right too.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Heath Bell hates the mets
he said he’d come back if given the chance
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
i never saw that
i have seen him badmouth the mets on several occasions
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Aug 17, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He always bashes the Mets than adds that he'd love to pitch for them again
It’s very interesting.
He says he loves us and then bashes us...
Then says he loves us again. Maybe we all ought to get a Heath Bell restraining order? Sounds like a clearly abusive relationship to me.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as I've heard
he bashes the FO and Ownership (and rightly so) but praises and likes the fans. He’s gone on record saying he wouldn’t rule out coming back.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
He sounds like anyone and everyone who'd ever want to pitch for us
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
really?
You think, say, Joakim Soria would hold it against the Mets (and the theoretical millions they could offer him) because they cut a guy who beat up an old man in the clubhouse? I doubt it.
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The Weiner in charge of the MLBPA says they will challenge it
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
I'm holding back on celebrating just yet
As I see it, there are two things the Mets need to do in the upcoming legal battle:
(1) Prove that K-Rod injury is entirely the result of the fisticuffs. If K-Rod really did keep his mouth shut about the injury and then suddenly open it and tell team officials that it was the result of punching his father-in-law, their job is much easier. If they can’t prove that, there’s that idiotic decision to send him out to pitch the other night. Really hurts them, because it does make the morals clause violation moot. The Mets have already decided that it’s okay that he play despite punching someone out a couple days before.
(2) They need to prove that their intentions are honest in this. They need to make the arbitrator that they would do the same if any other player got hurt off the field, not just one with a huge contract that they’d like to get out of. In essence, the Mets have to make the arbitrator believe that they’re not just trying to renege on a deal they previously agreed to. Which, of course, they are.
Unless, I should say
The Mets are convinced that he’ll be convicted. Then they’ll have a new out on the morals clause violation.
What does the morals cause say exactly?
Also, arbitrators are typically lawyers and/or retured judges etc. They are not as easily fooled as juries and apparent pretext usually won’t fly. Oh well. However, punching a family member at the stadium might lose one his right to bitch.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno
Not saying it would definitely get them out of the contract, just that it would give them another option to pursue, that the conviction exacerbates the damage done to the team by the original act.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can get out of an agreement by an express provision, you do so...
You don’t go to arbitration on a point that folks in blogs can see is arguable. Too risky.
You know who I think is reponsible for this debacle? Eric Simon. You see the activity on this site after the K-Rod thing? The guy is riding this thing to the bank.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
considering that all of zero pelayers have ever lost their contracts due to morals clause violations, I doubt that’s the Mets’ plan of attack anyway. But at the same time, I’d be shocked if the Mets didn’t bring it up.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Right.
Something tells me the morals clause, sight unseen, must either be extremely qualified or extremely vague. Either way it would be hard to make a case absent some really egregious violation (in which we would likely find the offender on the lam or in jail, meaning that his contract would be broken by failure to show up). By the way, here is an article that speaks to morality clause negotiation, but ignores much of an analysis of content. http://www.loeb.com/news/articledetail.aspx?article=808
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he did in public in front of players' families
So I don’t think it’s going to be a problem finding credible witnesses.
I really don't think they'll have an issue getting out of this seasons money,
but I highly doubt they get out of any future money. If they can prove that he hurt himself engaging in assault, I can’t see where the union would get him his paycheck. Either way, unless the injury hurts his performance next spring, I can’t see a case to void his entire contract.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Here’s the thing: can they withhold his salary for this season without converting his contract into a non-guaranteed deal? I don’t know. But the second that deal is no longer guaranteed, the Mets can cut him next spring and only pay him termination wages.
Cutting him would be almost impossible though
He’d be in the same boat as arbitration players, whose contracts are also non-gauranteed. He’d actually have to be beaten out of a bullpen job in the spring, and I just can’t see that happening.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows?
Maybe his thumb is still bothering him. Maybe he gets hurt in another way? And let’s say K-Rod has a bad spring. Or enough guys have better ones. It gives the Mets a mighty powerful potentiality. Might cause another union flap, but the big battle will already have been won if the deal’s made non-guaranteed.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
the union would be able to come back at them and say the only reason he was cut was his contract. That might be a legitimate point, it might not. Not really sure since this is uncharted territory for the most part.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It really depends
If he didn’t disclose the injury until after he pitched, they really didn’t botch it that badly if at all. If he commited a criminal activity, they punished him and move on. They certainly have a strong case to withhold pay if he made himself incapable of fulfilling his contract when engaging in said illegal activity. The real question here is what he has said about how he got hurt and when he said it.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The team could only put him on the 2 day RL
So they had to play him after that regardless of what they thought.
E coleman just said
that omar stated the mets wont void his contract and they want him to be on the team next year. maybe thats true and maybe they’re just trying to say the right things. I still don’t agree that it’s soo easy to find another closer especially as good as k-rod. which free agent closers will be available besides heath bell?
ok so i get that you dont want him
but to just get rid of him without a plan is silly. Who do you want to close next year? It’s aug. 17th and we still havent found an 8th inning pitcher.
frank francisco? jason frasor
K-rod isn’t going to be a difference maker for us next year anyway. and he certainly won’t be worth near what he’s paid.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Here's the RP FA list according to Cotts:
(* indicates 2011 option)
Jeremy Affeldt SF
Grant Balfour TB
Jesse Crain MIN
Scott Downs TOR
Chad Durbin PHI
Kyle Farnsworth ATL
Pedro Feliciano NYM
Jason Frasor TOR
Brian Fuentes LAA *
Chad Gaudin NYY
Matt Guerrier MIN
Aaron Heilman ARZ
Mike Lincoln CIN
Brian Moehler HOU
J.J. Putz CWS
Chad Qualls TB
Jon Rauch MIN
Arthur Rhodes CIN
David Riske MIL *
Mariano Rivera NYY
J.C. Romero PHI *
Bobby Seay DET
Scott Shields LAA
Brian Shouse BOS
Matt Thornton CWS *
Kerry Wood NYY *
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I don't want a "closer", just good pitchers for my bullpen.
I see Balfour, Guerrier, Rauch, Qualls, Thornton, Crain, and Downs all as legitimate targets. Not mention Tak, Parnell, Misch, and Gee who we already have and should be able to do well out of the pen next year.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
thoron and balfour
are probably better pitchers than K-rod even.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Heath Bell is not a free agent next year
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you "flip" a guaranteed contract to a non-guaranteed contract?
Doing that goes in the face of having a guaranteed contract in the first place. If this comes to pass, I would be shocked and I can’t believe the Players Union would allow this.
Something doesn’t add up.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Yankees
did it with Aaron Boone a couple years ago when he hurt himself playing basketball, so it must be in the language somewhere. But that was out of season in an activity that was completely unrelated to baseball. Very cut-and-dry. This one is messier.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Other instances though did not end that way
Denny Neagle and Sidney Ponson had guaranteed contracts that organizations attempted to get voided and they failed, ultimately crafting settlements which gave both players the vast majority of the money.
I can see them getting out of this year, but I just can’t see giving the Mets the ability to void $17 million + the obligitory Omar vest.
We’re not that lucky.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
They didn't injure themselves while being a general deuche
They were just deuches
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 17, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If the injury was career ending, then it would be possible.
It’s not, and I just don’t see it. Boone also had a provsion in his contract specifically restricting him contractually from playing baseball.
Unfortunately, Omar was smart enough to but a “don’t beat the shit out of your girlfriend’s father at Citi” clause.
Believe me, I hope it’s true. That money could be spent better elsewhere as I don’t see Wilpon spending enough to fix this mess.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Boone was resticted from playing baseball?
That explains…A LOT.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I would check his contract for one now...
Also would explain a lot.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not quite true
The Yankees prohibited many activities to Boone, not just basketball, and they didn’t do it just to pick on Boone. It’s in just about every contract. Every time a player gets hurt doing something else, it’s brought up. Remember when Jeff Kent got hurt “washing his truck” (widely believed to have actually occurred while riding a motorcycle, a no-no in baseball contracts). Media suggested the Giants might try to withhold salary then, too.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this was the same reason that Bob Ojeda sid he hurt himself howing his lawn...
When it was due to another cause. I’m not sure if I remember this correctly, but hmmmm…
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The infamous
hedge clippers accident. Believe it actually happened at a bar.
by Alex Nelson on Aug 17, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure
But point being that the particular activity that caused him to be injured was specifically restricted in the contract making it fairly easy to void.
I would imagine that there is only a general clause in the contract for Frankie’s type of incident, which I would assume would make it far more difficult to void.
I only wish Freddie Coupons could afford a good enough lawyer to make this happen instead of some guy on the back of the white pages.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
lol he's just gonna pm random mets fans to see if he can find someone
to work pro-bono
“so…I heard you hate K-rod”
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
*basketball
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
We got it...
Just having some fun here. Nothing to see.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a real question for you guys.....as to K-Rod's value
If K-Rod is the best chance the Mets have of a Type A free agent leaving…why cut him? He’s solidly in the type A range right now, and it uses a 2-year system to generate the ranking.
Let him pitch next year, but ration his appearances to save appearances only. Make sure the option doesn’t vest. And then capitalize when he’s a FA again and someone overpays (He won’t accept arbitration; not with the Wagner precedent)
That's the thing
There’s no way the Mets monitor his appearances like that, and the union would have a fit if we intentionally kept him out of games just so it wouldn’t vest
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
But the union would have no proof
unless he was kept out of save situations
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 18, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think #1 is a killer for the Mets
which is why it was beyound dumb to send him on out on Sat. They had to know something was up. Unless Frankie really did lie in which case, its great news as you say.
reply fail
that was meant to reply to Alex’s post
There's no way they cut him in ST if he's healthy
the Wilpons are way too concerned about what the media thinks of them, and the media would absolutely skewer the team if they cut Frankie to save money.
Converseley,
they’d skewer them if he’s kept on the team
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
no we'd skewer him
the media would see cutting him as giving up on 2010 due to cheapness.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
But the media considers him a cancer almost at this point
I doubt they’ll be completely receptive to him being on the team next year
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Gotta agree with Syler.
The NY media always goes for the rich players who is a douche should be cut/traded/not re-signed much more than they go for owner’s being cheap. If the Wilpons spend his salary on other FAs than it’s a complete moot point. K-Rod is a douche and they print all the past domestic dispute stories.
OT, but Matt Capps, a NAMEBRAND closer just gave up a game tying HR in the 9th
Shocking. I thought NAMEBRAND closers were infallible.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Getting really worried about Ike
Not sure if he can be an above average 1b with that swing. The league has made adjustments, and he’s not responding with much. When’s the last time he took a pitch the other way with any authority? June?
Also, why the hell did Frenchy play? He hits one double and draws a walk and therefore he can hit righthanded pitching again? I get that Pagan has been cold, but last night was the night to rest him then, vs. the freaking lefthander.
it'd be nice
if we had a hitting coach to help young players make adjustments
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Hojo does help them
He tells them to HACK HACK HACK HACK HACK HACK HACK HACK….and when all else fails, HACK
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
He is getting absoute zero in terms of development
Look at this team. Even the good players are a mess.
I’ll be worried if we don’t overhaul the staff in the offseason. Until then, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and blame Razor Shines or something.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Oh well
I think they are good for this year. They might have to pay him for next year. But they are out from under the stuuuuuuupid option year. No arbitrator could assume number of appearances for a pitcher. Any way you shake it, they save 17.5. And probably what they owe for this year.
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