Astros 3, Mets 2: Houston Solves The Misch-tery Of Pat
by James Kannengieser on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 PM EDT
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Pat Misch smoke-and-mirrored the Astros through six innings tonight, allowing one hit and no runs with just one strikeout. He received his comeuppance in the seventh inning, giving up singles to Angel Sanchez and Hunter Pence, then a three-run homer to Carlos Lee. Factor in another putrid showing from the Mets' offense (3-for-30 with two walks) and that's your ballgame.
Three runs in six innings from Misch is more than acceptable. That's basically what serviceable pitcher Jon Garland has done for his career. Unfortunately it seems that Misch isn't capable of sustaining that level of performance. He has struck out only three batters in his twelve MLB innings this season, with a swinging strike rate of 2.9% (league average is 8.4%). Small sample size, yes, but it is consistent with his MLB track record and generally underwhelming stuff. I'll be rooting for him, regardless, while being realistic about his future with the ballclub.
I have nothing insightful to add about the lineup's struggles.
Some other random observations from this game:
- Pence's at-bat music is "California Gurls" by Katy Perry. According to this video, it is part of a team-wide trend toward cheesy pop songs as theme music. Chris Johnson's song is "Milkshake" by Kelis and Geoff Blum's is "Bulletproof" by La Roux. No word if Michael Bourn has Bieber Fever.
- Things really fell apart once Carlos Beltran entered the game prior to the bottom of the seventh, right? Coincidence? No! (Note: If you are reading Amazin' Avenue for the first time, the previous sentences are sarcastic.)
- Respect to Keith Miller, but this might be the worst SNY trivia question ever:
Case of beer to anyone who got that without looking it up. - Paging Ted Berg -- the Astros have a Taco Bell sauce race, their version of the sausage race in Milwaukee or the president race in Washington. GKK (Gary, Keith and Kevin -- happy 50th birthday Ron!) did not approve, and Kevin requested Randall Simon's presence. The race featured a royal rumble just before the finish line:
Notice Razor Shines on the top step of the dugout, observing intently.
Gary Cohen: "This is the worst thing I've ever seen."
Update: Via a TedQuarters post from April, the race is called the "Taco Bell Saucy Sprint". - Bored with the game? Stop by the Minute Maid Park barber/referee for a shave and a haircut.
Is that John Kruk?
The Mets split the four game series this week and head to Pittsburgh for a weekend set with the Pirates. It's a Francoeur vs. Milledge showdown. Friday night's pitching matchup is Mike Pelfrey vs. Jeff Karstens.
Unintentionally sexual quote of the game: "The mantra is, make the pitcher get it up." -- Keith Hernandez
Poem by Howard Megdal
Misch baffled for six, absent brute force
But his night came undone on a blast from The Horse
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Crawfish Boxes Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Ryota Igarashi +7.8%, Chris Carter +5.2%
Big losers: Pat Misch (as pitcher) -24.7%, Luis Castillo -13.3%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Chris Carter RBI single +10.1%
Teh sux0rest play: Carlos Lee three-run home run +41.8%
Total pitcher WPA: -17.8%
Total batter WPA: -32.2%
GWRBI!: Carlos Lee
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by jdon; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | jdon | 72 |
| 2 | NetsMets4Life | 62 |
| 3 | fxcarden | 56 |
| 4 | BrockRocks | 54 |
| 5 | Michkin | 51 |
| 6 | James Kannengieser | 36 |
| 7 | Kepler | 27 |
| 8 | Syler | 23 |
| 9 | lstorie1971 | 23 |
| 10 | Gina | 22 |
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we can still enjoy some Clemens schadenfreude
bought time this guy gets his comeuppance
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I didn't watch a single pitch of this game
and it felt so right.
Fuck Jerry, fuck Barajas, fuck Francoeur, and oh yeah, FUCK JERRY.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I turned it on during the bottom of the 7th.
Sorry guys, I lost the game for us.
That's when Beltran entered the game
Blame Beltran
by James Kannengieser on Aug 19, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
why does jerry do that?
replacing Carter in the 7th? First of all, carter has not hurt them in left. Second, it is a small left field and easy to play. most managers wait until the 8th to do defensive replacements. I guess Jerry figured Carter would not get up again so…..but, in a close game, with a bad, bad offense, and a shaky BP, he deprived himself of a power chip and the flexibility to use it. When the tide turned, Jerry found himself with Thole or Hess man with two out and no one on, and chose the singles hitter because he is a lefty. Well, that would have required a lot of thinking, I suppose. And after all, thole did go 0-7 in the previous game…..
Exactly.
I have a new word for you guys: Moronuel!
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on Aug 20, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially Stupid when Carter is one of the Best Clutch hitters
on a team not scoring runs
im glad i checked out to watch burn notice/the jersey shore
i think i would have thrown my laptop into a wall if I’d seen this. I nearly did when I checked the box scores 2 minutes ago. This has to be some kind of record as far as non-winning road series.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
This is the rest of our road schedule
3 at Pittsburg
4 at Atlanta
3 at Chicago
3 at Washington
2 at Florida
3 at Philly
If we don’t win this series in Pittsburgh, we’re going 0fer NL road series
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
nope, we suck in Chicago, even when we are decent
can’t win there.
All losses?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on Aug 20, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll really enjoy this then
They said at the end of the broadcast it’s been 18 straight games scoring 5 runs or less. Are you fucking kidding me, indeeed.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
when did they score more than 2, 17gms ago
by Sir Tmac on Aug 19, 2010 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it was the game we slapped the shit out of Wainwright. We won 8-2.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Rockies
We beat the Rox 4-0
Pelfrey, Niese, Dickey, Santana sure sounds like a great playoff rotation, don't it? ... Maybe a playoff team will trade for them.
Oh sorry, I was thinking more than 5 runs for whatever reason, didnt realize he said 2.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We haven't won a game where we've allowed more than 3 runs since July 4th
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
ITZ TEH RINGZ
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
David Wright lobby
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Damn
Skipped the game due to more pressing matters (interestingly including sitting next to Trotsky’s grandson!) but doesn’t look like I missed much.
Such a shame Keith didn’t break that quote out during a Dickey start. We need situational quoting, damn it!
My aunt knows Gandhi's grandson
from her “spinning” class at the Y. The cycling kind, but how funny is that!
by Pack Bringley on Aug 19, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think weird stuff like that sometimes
I wish Hitler had some grandkids so you can say things to them like “Man, your fucking grandfather started a World War”
I made a good decision tonight.
After Lee’s HR, I stopped watching. What a smart move on my part. I feel so much better than I would have if I had continued to watch that piece of shit ball game. I think I will watch as little as possible from now on. It’s just a relief that I didn’t have to put myself through all of that game. I wonder how I’d feel if I just didn’t watch at all. I think I’d look like this:
Consequences will never be the same.
There's just no upside to driving yourself crazy over something that has no meaning at this point
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Yeah
hate to say it, but I’ve given up and moved on. Arsenal plays Saturday, and I’m committed to that.
by Thomas Wachtel on Aug 19, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Im torn right now.
Should I even bother with baseball any longer? Football here I come, and soon enough basketball.
Oh wait, I forgot. Non baseball talk on AA is forbidden.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball is a million times better than basketball
And the offseason should be interesting to say the least.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Eh, well I disagree with you on baseball vs basketball part
but you are right about the offseason.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Humiliating, embarrassing, awful, stupid, maybe
But given the way this season has unfolded, I doubt it will be boring.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
jerry signed as player manager
he can play second and bat second
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
You shouldn't bother
with the rest of the season & get ready for football & basketball. Or, you could catch up on shows you might’ve missed.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
I actually dont watch much television.
So on to other sports…
I will still be coming back to AA though, cause its a disease. Hell, I am probably lying to myself, and I will watch at least part of almost every game for the rest of the season…
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lol thats like the ONE show I watch.
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 19, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao same here
i watch like 4 shows total, and that’s the only show I make sure to see first air every time.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Watched it today, Ronnie needs to stop getting fucking wasted.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS: THIS SHOW PROVIDES TEH LULZ
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hate you guys for that.
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
"hate" is a strong word.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but words like "loathe" and "abhor" are just as strong and even worse.
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
This is true.
I prefer the simple term “dislike.”
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
We'd have to score enough runs to have a lead for him to close
I smell a mop up platoon with Ollie!
I think humor is the only thing keeping me going.
if it weren’t for the occasional LULZ I find on AA, I would have stopped watching a while ago.
Consequences will never be the same.
Didn't watch it; thank God.
Even when they had that lead, I just knew they were going to lose. I think other than agita, the Mets made me develop ESP in regards to their games.
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
went bowling, seems I chose wisely
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 19, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
I just worked a 12 hour day, realizing 8 hours in that I forgot to put on deodorant then worked the last 4 hours in a building with no AC.
and had more fun than I would have had I watched this piece of shit team be a piece of shit.
BTW, I wear a shirt and tie to work and live in AZ, and it was about 200 degrees today, and I have to interact with people ALL day. (was able to sneak home and deodorize at 430)
by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Aug 19, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Ah, it was only 107 dude
Mild day in the Valley of the Sunstroke
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
This post is corny.
The one and only mistermet on teh Interwebz!
by Steve Schreiber on Aug 20, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I DIDNT HAVE ANY CORN
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont get it
you know the saying, ‘insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result’? the mets are full of insanity. i mean – jerry, failcore, luis, ollie on the team, barajas, jerry, Jerry, JERRY, JEEEERRRRYYY?!?!?!?! I need something new :(
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
El Jerrible?
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
Wilpon's fault.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, what the Astros are doing is pretty fucking horrible.
But in Trenton, there’s one player that walks up to the “Love Is Gone” song by some guy I don’t want to mention because he doesn’t deserve a plug here. Anyway, they took advantage of it and made a promotion out of it by having people “fist-pump” at one in-between inning break, using that song. Now, whenever that song is played, everyone in the crowd is fist-pumping. Also, my co-workers in production act as if the song and the promotion is the greatest thing to ever be made and won’t shut the fuck up about it. (By the way, I won’t knock on the job because it is actually fun, but I just can’t look past that monstrosity they call a promotion. I know it’s the Minors, but still; they should never be that horrible.)
In conclusion, it is beyond a terrible fucking travesty, and I invite anyone to hit me in the head very hard with a cookie tray if I ever have to hear that song again.
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
Should we have expected any better
The Astros are not that bad of a team, and one look at our starting lineup should have been enough to fill any Mets fan’s heart with impending doom. Our pitching is good, but our position players really suck. The only team in the NL who has worse position players are the Pirates, IMO. It is hard to win games when you start Castillo at 2B, Francoeur in RF, Carter in LF, and Barajas at C. This is just a bad team.
Time for my Mets Anonymous meeting, “My name is George, and I have been a Mets fan for 9 years. Please kill me”
I'm sorry, but the Astros fucking suck
They’ve given away two of their best players, and there near the bottom of the league in pitching and offense.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
no dude
the d-backs aren’t that bad of a team. the brewers aren’t that bad of a team.
the astros are that bad. ahem
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Ya, and look who is right above them
Yikes, the Mets :-)
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
lol, fail
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but look at the gap
we’re closer to the the middle of the league than they are to us. They could double their score and still be 30 runs away
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Impressive Gap
but if you compare slash lines
Full Season
Mets .248/.312/.381
Astros .247/.304/.363
Since the allstar break
Astros .273/.326/.407
Mets .214/.280/.327
Unless the Mets are playing a AA team, IMO, there really is no one we can expect them to match up with favorably. The 2010 Mets are a very bad team, Just my opinion.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
So basically, we have thrown 8 Jeff Francoeur's out there everyday since the middle of July
Well don
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
the slash lines don't account for park effects
the stats above do. And considering we play in one of the more extreme pitcher parks that’s kind of a big deal.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
So what is the value figures after the all star break?
Sorry, don’t know how to do that Gina, but I think it is reasonable to assume the astros are trending up, while the Mets are collapsing.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably the reason I don't know how to do it
I think we can all agree that the Mets & Astros both suck. Who is actually worse proably doesn’t really matter much.
That would be interesting to see the splits though, the Mets after the all-start break have been pretty darn bad. Thanks for checking.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Citi officially an extreme pitchers park?
I know we’re more of a pitcher’s park, but are we right behind Petco?
IMO, not nearly as extreme as Petco
Following pulled from Baseball Reference:
Park Factors Over 100 favors batters, under 100 favors pitchers.
Petco – multi-year: Batting – 87, Pitching – 88
one-year: Batting – 86, Pitching – 87
Citi – multi-year: Batting – 98, Pitching – 98
one-year: Batting – 98, Pitching – 98
Minute Maid Park – multi-year: Batting – 99, Pitching – 100
one-year: Batting – 96, Pitching – 97
So we tend to be slightly a pitchers park, just slightly more than Minute Maid, but Petco is definitely a pitcher park.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The real question is:
When the hell did we score these runs???
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Here are the stats
Mets - 2010 Splits by Month Split W L RS RS/Game RA WP April 14 9 105 4.57 73 0.609 May 12 17 130 4.48 146 0.414 June 18 8 126 4.85 93 0.692 July 9 17 88 3.38 99 0.346 August 7 10 39 2.29 64 0.412
Good April & June in both pitching and batting, pitching let us down a little in May, offense non-existent in July & August.
43 games is a little too long for a slump, so, I have no explanation except for just a bad team (not pitching, just offense).
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely bad team
a bad team that way outplayed their peripherals for 2 months.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
If WAR is so important, why isn't it on the scoreboard
by James Kannengieser on Aug 20, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
And it translates to runs
Runs Scored after the all-star break
Astros 153
Mets 90
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
As I was told on a philly blog this week
That’s just one of those stats that agents invented to make their players more money.
What Would Matt Szczur Do?
by Hoyadestroya85 on Aug 20, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO, has some valid uses
but I think WAR has the potential to be misused as well. The problem with the WAR numbers is they don’t have any splits, say for pre or post all star break. IMO, both teams suck, but the Mets suck more post all star break and that isn’t reflected in the WAR numbers.
Here are some non WAR numbers since the all star break for both teams:
W-L R AVG/OBP/SLG ERA
Astros 17-14 156 .271/.323/.406 3.93
Mets 12-21 92 .211/.277/.321 3.34
Since the all-star break the Mets have gotten good pitching, but they have been terrible batting. So, you look at WAR at the Astros look much worse than the Mets, but since the all star break, the Mets have been the worst team in the NL as far as batting goes. And we shouldn’t expect to go to Houston and sweep the Astros. Just my opinion.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Darn, didn't format right, let me try again
Astros
W-L = 17-14; Runs Scored = 156; AVG/OBP/SLG= .271/.323/.406; ERA = 3.93
Mets
W-L = 12-21; Runs Scored = 92; AVG/OBP/SLG = .211/.277/.321; ERA = 3.34
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd say the real problem with WAR is the defensive metrics
and the fact it attempts to correct for pitching luck but not batter.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Yeah, the Astros have some odd at bat music choices
Snoop sold out in “California Gurls.”
Consequences will never be the same.
He probably did, yes.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i can't deny that i was a monk fan
but his role was really just self parody
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Comments Amended
The Atros are not that bad of a team compared to us :-)
They're worse than us
We actually have good starting pitching….they don’t
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I agree we have good pitching
much better than the Astros. I was complaining about the position players. We are both terrible.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree we have better pitching
I was complaining about our position players, very close to the Atsros level, IMO.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
The Braves had the Astros last week and our color commentator extraordinaire said the following after seeing the taco bell sauce race:
“That’s just lame”
Yes it is, Joe Simpson, yes it is.
Beyond the Box Score / Capitol Avenue Club / shwitter: @CapitolAvenue
oh snap
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If there's one thing never in short order at AA it's clevernes.
Beyond the Box Score / Capitol Avenue Club / shwitter: @CapitolAvenue
Did someone forget to tell the Astros that the craze for those kinds of races have died not too long ago?
Ed Rooney: What's the score?
Pizza Joint Owner: Nothin' nothin'.
Ed Rooney: Who's winning?
Pizza Joint Owner: The Bears.
sure enough, wilpon will institute one next season
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Better than that idotic animated race they have
What was it again? Taxis? Or buses?
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by NetsMets4Life on Aug 20, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It used to be planes for each section for years
But I know they started to use something else in recent years.
thought it was trains for a bit
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 20, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
If it was a minor league gimmick I would think it was the most awesome thing ever.
But it’s a little… odd… for a real team.
I think the recap needed to include this:
Castillo, Francouer and Jack ass Barajas all went hitless, ensuring this defeat. All should not be playing. Jerry wrote them all in. All should be DFF*’A’d ASAP, but of course won’t be. This team would be better tomorrow if all were cut and replaced with Duda, Satin and Turner, or heck, replaced with three of the best players from the LIttle League World Series.
*Second F stands for you know what.
Would love to know what our full season totals are from the 2b position
at this point. This is just a guess, but here’s what I think the slash line is: .225/.301/.320
Impressively close, just off on slugging
.225/.302/.278
With zero home runs. Mets pitchers have more homers than 2nd basemen.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 20, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, awesome
I thought I went too low on slugging, but you cannot go low enough. Limbo lower now!
Its something I'm much too lazy to look up
But I wonder how far down for starting pitcher’s batting lines in the NL that would fit in.
Having a lower SLG than OBP is an impressive feat at least.
It’s not a cheapy either, by 24 points.
I'm amazed that we're that bad.
No, wait, not amazed. What’s the other thing?
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
Fangraphs Total for 2B
Team G AB PA H 1B 2B 3B HR R RBI BB IBB SO HBP SF SH GDP SB CS AVG
Mets 142 445 513 99 79 16 4 0 46 38 49 3 43 3 4 12 9 11 4 .222
Sorry for the formating, here is a link to the page: http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=2b&lg=all&stats=bat&type=0&season=2010&month=0
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah we've had the lowest wOBA from our 2nd basemen in the NL
and it’s really not even close
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I love that despite batting 2nd almost all the time
for half the season our second basemen have scored 46 runs. And of course, the zero homers is awesome. There’s a great chance that will not change.
tejada actually smoked one in citi that would have been out in most places
a few days after his second call up. That was probably our only chance.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
maybe if Satin or Turner get some Sept. starts?
Ahh, who am I kidding.
Satin Turner is a good porn star/stripper name
by James Kannengieser on Aug 20, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to know what to think
Our prospects are so over-hyped it is hard to predict whether they would actually be any better than Tejada. I was really disappointed in F-Mart. If he can’t beat out Francoeur for a job, he won’t be able to beat anyone out. He probably didn’t get much of a chance, of course, because we always mis-manage playing time.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
well turner isn't really a prospect
and he’s been a useful major leaguer already
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Mostly talking about Satin
Turner is a 26 year old with 21 games played/35 AB in the majors. Agreed not a prospect. Don’t think I would go so far as to call him useful, however.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He's supposed to be a solid glove
Not saying he’s a world beater, but I think he’d beat any of 2B this year. I’m sure his AAA 800 OPS would translate into at least 600.
I hope so
I was really disappointed F-Mart couldn’t do away with Francoeur. I know we have had some success this year, Davis doing away with Jacobs as an example, but I guess the F-Mart situation has soured me.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not really his fault that Jerry continues to give Failcoeur playing time, is it?
John Olerud, Hall of Famer. Got a nice ring to it.
At least 600. I checked his MLEs towards an eventual AAOP for 2011
and especially in a platoon situation he rates to be a productive player. Not a star, by any means, but as part of an intelligently managed platoon he’d contribute his share to 2-3 WAR from the position.
After this year I’d take that in a heartbeat.
Ya
I am having a little problem with the ‘intelligently managed’ part :-)
The problem is he probably won’t be given a fair shot to make the club, with 35 lifetime ABs in the majors, they will put him in there for 2 games, and when he doesn’t go 8-8, they will have his butt on the next plane to Buffalo. And yes, I know I am being negative, but hey, I am a Mets fan. Sorry.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't expect it to happen, either.
Given the personel available to the club, though, they may be forced into inadvertently doing the right thing. I’m fairly sure they’re continuing to play Tejada in the very, very faint hope that he can put together a tolerable month. Then the FO can point and say, see? We don’t have to go outside the organization [and spend money].
Of course, Satin and Turner are a much better bet, at least in 2011, to put up significantly better numbers than Tejada will, but I would be suprised if that possibility had even crossed Minaya’s mind. It’s too bad. The team had two months to give it a shot. Now it has six weeks. The preposterous thing is that that platoon would have been both the best chance for the team to contend, and it’s best chance to avoid paying FA dollars, and Minaya still couldn’t see it and has Manuel continuing, in Tejada, to run a player out there who has no hope of being a contributor to the team next year.
Another Mets lose-lose proposition.
Yupper
Exactly how I feel, and well said.
Am am getting so tired of seeing the same bad players take the field. I could live with giving someone new a chance, even if they don’t play up to standards this year, just to get them the experience.
by George_Sloan on Aug 20, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
KRod song "I hurt my thumb" (to Stones "Under My Thumb"_
This is pretty funny.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
That trivia question really is absurd.
They’re usually not that specific.
Misch pitched well enough to win
seems to be the theme lately, decent pitching and no winning
I was really impressed by his pitch count and was surprised he was pulled even though he was getting hit in that inning.
our hitting sucks worse than last season..pitching has improved
we are currently on a pace to score less runs than last year, although more HR
our AVG,OBP and SLG are all .20 or more lower than last season
our pitching ERA is at 3.65, after finishing last season at 4.45…I can’t complain about that.
so with our big FA signing, reyes in the line up all season, an power upgarde at C, and Davis at 1B instead of a month of Delgado and then fill ins…we are hitting below last season
Are you ready for the first Double no Hitter
This weekend we are set up only run will be leadoff error
2 stolen bases and a groundout
by Sir Tmac on Aug 20, 2010 8:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Gary Cohen: "This is the worst thing I've ever seen."
Has he not been watching the last few years?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
re: haircut guy
I would have thought that was Chris Farley, if he weren’t dead at the present time.
Oh, the butcher and the baker and the people on the street: wheredotheygo?!?!? Right here: http://myentireteam.wordpress.com/
A few things....
1. I actually do remember Keith Miller. I have no idea why, but I do. This does not speak well for Ike.
2. I would totally go for a haircut at a ballgame. I think the problem with the Mets is that enough players have not taken haircuts.
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