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Moral Victory Applesauce - Mets fight back, fall to Marlins, Parnell not closer, Castillo not starter

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On a night when there weren't supposed to be any fans at the game, the Mets teased the Citi Field crowd and SNY viewers with a comeback that failed to materialize, losing to a team that has gotten remarkably similar results with shockingly less money.

Jerry is not ready to anoint Bobby Parnell the closer yet. Jerry has also managed to tick off Luis Castillo, who is upset about losing his starting job to Ruben Tejada.

Ted Berg points out that Angel Pagan's numbers are surprisingly similar to Angel Pagan's past numbers.

Jenrry Mejia is starting to exert his dominance again on minor leaguers. Mark Cohoon is shaping up nicely as well.

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The Braves had a 10-1 lead over Colorado, but the Rockies did more than what the Mets couldn't, they won 12-10.

Florida has an interactive 3D seat chart for their new stadium. It's pretty fun.

Stephen Strasburg's arm injury is all too familiar to Joe Posnanski who says that these types of injuries are only to be expected for young pitchers.

Meanwhile, Nats fans are going to be without the pleasure of watching Nyjer Morgan and Rob Dibble for a while. Morgan was suspended 7 games for throwing a ball into the Philadelphia crowd. Dibble is conveniently taking a vacation after criticizing Strasburg's testicular fortitude.

Former Pirate Jose Batista wishes that the Pirates spent more and won more. Not so fast. Any further spending does not guarantee wins and it certainly does not help profitability.

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Sigh

when will the long national nightmare finally end?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 26, 2010 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Lordy

I don’t think we’ll win the World Cup this century, actually.

by tmu on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

castillo doesn't understand why he isn't playing everyday

this just about sums it up.

“Manuel said that if Tejada continues to struggle at the plate – he is 1-for-34 since being called up Aug. 7 – it could turn things for Castillo, who said, “I know I can help this team hit,” but is at .237 for the season."

by cntrlalt on Aug 26, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny that he says "hit"

when you can tell that he is looking for a walk every time up until he gets 2 strikes. Also, he didn’t mention his statue like defense, did he?

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 26, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't there another 2B in the minors

Who can hit better than either of these shlubs? Talk about a weak link.

And Tejada’s not that great at defense.

by METSRULE on Aug 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean, it's a moral victory when Castillo doesn't play?

hah!

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 26, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Sit out

While there didn’t seem to be a concentrated effort, the attendance for last nights game seemed pretty poor. The LF promenade was almost entirely empty, and even in the lower level where I was sitting there were a lot of empty seats. Granted it was crappy weather and a lot of the lower tier people may have been hiding in the clubs, but it certainly looks like people are fed up and not prepared to dump any more money into this team. The only reason I was there is because my dad got free tickets for donating blood. I won’t be buying any more tickets and I’ll only go if someone gives me a ticket. In the long run I know it won’t matter, but I won’t contribute to this dysfunctional situation anymore.

by Reg Dunlop on Aug 26, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

It appears that Pat Misch is the very definition of a number 5 starter.

by Coolpapabell on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

nothing wrong with that

every team needs a 5 starter, and he’s cheap

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly

They don’t have to pay $2M + for one. Its good to have two viable options with Misch and Gee for that spot.

by Coolpapabell on Aug 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the role of a no. 5

is not to go out and lose every 5 days—which is what Misch has been doing.

by jdon on Aug 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not great for sure

but with work I think he could be Trachsel-esque. Eat a lot of innings, have an ERA of 4 and change, and be generally unoffensive to watch, which at this point is about all we can ask for.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Aug 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

the word "trachsel"

send shivers up and down my spine. Fives have to win sometimes. They can;t be designated losers

by jdon on Aug 26, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not worried about W and L

because this isn’t 1955. I want innings, and a FIP in the low to mid 4’s. Yes, an above league average swing strike rate would be nice too, but I am not picky. Just give me innings, and someone who doesn’t piss down their leg too often.

Steve Trachsel did fold like a $2.00 hooker, when we needed him most, but he did give us a lot of quality innings. It is important to note that in a few stretches he even carried the rotation. Fate truly dealt us a bad hand, when we were left to rely on our number 5 starter. Those guys normally don’t touch the mound in a play-off series.

by Coolpapabell on Aug 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

An fip in the low to mid 4's would be above

Average I believe, but I could be confusing the fip and xfip

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And

League average ERA for No.5 starters is over six I think

by deadspy3 on Aug 26, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus it's not HIS fault his team

can’t score runs when he’s pitching, or play defense.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 26, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mejia is starting to look good in the minors

So, naturally, let’s rush him back up to the majors before he’s ready, because it worked so well the first time.

FIRE OMAR. FIRE JERRY.

by JoshNY on Aug 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It's only a problem

Because of moronic management. There’s no reason guys like misch and gee should be making 30 starts a year you can use a four man rotation if your smart enough to work around the teams off days and just have a swing man l, like tak-2 around for spot starts and call up someone like gee or misch for the occasional long run between off days.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Aug 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

W/L fail

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Aug 27, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

just like Samson

the Wilpons are blind, pushing a millstone round and round…..

by jdon on Aug 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

berg

i’ve been saying that same thing for a while now. for some reason everyone acts like pagan came out of nowhere this season when he was excellent over a sizeable number of ab’s in ’09. this also explains why i was on the brink of madness when gmj made that opening day start.

another one is the idea that pagan is injury prone and has overcome it this season. he was actually something of an iron man over his entire minor league career and had 2-3 completely unrelated, completely fluke injuries in his first couple major league seasons.

by Rob Castellano on Aug 26, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

"The Brink of Madness"

Needs to be the title of the next book written about the Mets.

by MookieTheCat on Aug 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilpons and Manaya

If they don’t fire Omar as soon as the season is over (if not sooner) I will be convinced he has pictures of them with farm animals.

Tom J.
Canandaigua, NY

by teejay1552003 on Aug 26, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love the Dickey quote

about Ramirez dragging his foot across the “NY” insignia on the mound…“Unless I’m standing on it, it’s not a big deal to me personally. It’s just earth.”

How cool is this man?!!

It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy

by CTRefJay on Aug 26, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

what's with the reply fails?

I was commenting on Pat Misch, and how he needs a good D behind him and just a bit of offense to win games. he’s a decent enough 5th/swingman type, which the Mets already have a bunch of.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Aug 26, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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