Braves 9, Mets 3: Meaningful Golf In October
I was actually excited for this game, mainly because FanGraphs told me that Pat Misch profiles as an above average pitcher going forward. League average FIP this year is 4.12 -- league average ERA is 4.08. Mark Buehrle, essentially. That excitement was quickly extinguished, as Misch allowed eight hits and five runs in his three innings of work, including a three-run home run to Jason Heyward. I get that he has great control, but he doesn't strike anyone out or induce groundballs at a significant rate. Projecting Misch to be an above average pitcher is like projecting me to be the next Joe Posnanski.
After Misch was shellacked, Elmer Dessens, Manny Acosta, Oliver Perez and Ryota Igarashi combined to allow four runs on six hits in five innings. It was Ollie's first appearance since August 1st, the longest layoff in MLB this season according to Adam Rubin. Ollie gave up a homer to Brian McCann on the second pitch he uncorked (an 88 mph fastball, one of the faster pitches he threw). I laughed, while lamenting that if he is on the team next season I will seriously consider not rooting for the Mets. At this point in the recap, I planned to screengrab a shot of the SNY text-poll, which asked: "Did the Mets treat Oliver Perez poorly?". However, MLB.TV is on the fritz and I can't access the game. Anyway, the results were 94% No, 6% Yes. Apparently, 6% of SNY texters were either drunk, relatives of Ollie or simply having a laugh tonight.
Despite uncharacteristically drawing six walks, the Mets lineup couldn't get much going. Chris Carter went 1-for-2 with two walks, but grounded out with the bases loaded and two outs in the fifth inning, when the score was still 5-3. Josh Thole continued to shine, going 1-for-3 with a triple and a walk.
Jenrry Mejia dominated for Triple-A Buffalo tonight:
His groundball to flyball ratio was 10:2. Awesome. Andy McCullough thinks Mejia might start Saturday vs. the Cubs at Wrigley Field. Or, more likely, he will become Jerry Manuel's new "eighth inning guy".
Some terrible/awesome Misch puns from the gamethread and comments below:
- Misch-ion Impossible
- The Braves figured out the Misch-tery of Pat
- Pat’s causing Misch-ief
- Ollie really Misch-ed the mark
- That pun is so bad, it should be a Misch-demeanor
- I'm sure there are numerous Misch-ellaneous words we could plug his name into
- Roger Clemens keeps Misch-remembering
- They don't have a court system in the A-Misch country
- Speaking of hits and Misches, I notice Russ Adams’s OPS is over 800 for the Bisons, while Luis Hernandez’s is under 700
- I Misch-ed the game, guess I didn't Misch much
Game two is tomorrow at 7:10. Jon Niese faces Mike Minor.
Poem by Howard Megdal
Heyward gets better of overmatched Misch
Want Mejia instead? You'll soon get your wish
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Talking Chop Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Josh Thole +19.6%, Luis Hernandez +15.8%
Big losers: Pat Misch -41.7% (as pitcher), David Wright -15.1%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Josh Thole +16.0%
Teh sux0rest play: Jason Heyward three-run homer -27.7%
Total pitcher WPA: -50.1%
Total batter WPA: +0.1%
GWRBI!: Jason Heyward
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by KeithsMoustache; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | KeithsMoustache | 106 |
| 2 | aparkermarshall | 86 |
| 3 | Gina | 69 |
| 4 | James Kannengieser | 59 |
| 5 | lstorie1971 | 58 |
| 6 | jdon | 56 |
| 7 | Jsz | 47 |
| 8 | BrockRocks | 38 |
| 9 | Help!I'maRock! | 31 |
| 10 | Brian. | 28 |
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Instead of the traditional full recap with WPA and all that
Just list the Misch puns from the game thread. Don’t Misch out.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
I really hate Jerry.
for Misch pun inspiration
you can get a lot of mileage from the Myth Adventures books by Robert Asprin and substituting where appropriate.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
This just in:
“ATLANTA — Manager Jerry Manuel says the Mets have talked to Ike Davis about toning down his arguments with umpires. Davis says no such conversation took place.”
But of course!
So, does ANYone have any idea what role the Mets see for Misch next year? They must envision him as a starter, right? Just ‘cause for his career his ERA as a reliever is half what it is as a starter doesn’t mean anything—after all, he LOOKS like a starter.
Can’t Misch.
Nice.
Speaking of hits and Mischs, I notice Russ Adams’s OPS is over 800 for the Bisons, while Luis Hernandez’s is under 700.
Can someone tell me again why Hernandez got the call?
Or why
Justin Turner is still in AAA while Tejada does nothing up here?
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
injured
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He was in there tonight
He went 0-4 while playing shortstop. Which begs the question: Why was Luis Hernandez promoted over him?
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
ah thought he was on the DL down there
guess I was Mischtaken
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Misch Congeniality is on one of the HBO networks right now
by James Kannengieser on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather watch The Mischt
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Jeckyll and Mischter Hyde?
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Mischter Baseball?
Featuring Tom Selleck’s Mischtache?
by Bieser's Balk on Aug 31, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey remember that great reliever we had a few years ago
Mischter Koo?
The one and only mistermet on teh Interwebz!
by Steve Schreiber on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even if he's not Misch-placed in the rotation
The way the bullpen is Misch-managed, he’d surely be Misch-used.
Image credit to astromets
by hotspur on Aug 30, 2010 10:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
jerry actually did that
playing manager in a rotisserie league
my thoughts.
Tonight we saw lefty v. Carter
and learned Pat Misch, not a starter
Ollie gave up a shot
and we all laughed a lot
though his contract shows we just can’t barter.
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Howie was SO grumpy tonight
and did I hear Keith pull away from the mic and say “how do you take that? Jesus!” during David’s last at bat?
he had a few of those during the game
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
the moments of uncomfortable booth silence are getting more frequent.
by Help!I'maRock! on Aug 30, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And on radio I'm strangely yearning for Wayne innings
He has the advantage — over all of us — of not being a Met fan.
by Pack Bringley on Aug 30, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wayne had a cheesy joke about Ollie needing Google to find home plate or something
Clearly not clever or funny, yet the delivery and moment had me laughing.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 30, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lame Hagin
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
I think
Jennry should get one more start in AAA before coming up to start for the ML team.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
I see Francour was onbase tonight
With Jeffie there
by Sir Tmac on Aug 30, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Twas the night before Christmas and of all Mets loving souls
Not a believer was stirring, not even the trolls.
The comments were silent of David’s Wright and Wrongz,
In hopes that dumb Jerry soon would be gone;
The Mets fans sat silently in front of their pooters,
And thought of Bob Melvin and other, better suitors;
And Gina watching Fangraphs and, and me, talking fate,
Had just settled down for a late summer’s wait,
When on a soutbound flight there sprang realtor’s spawn,
I knew that soon would be a meeting with Wilpon..
Away to AA my interest grew like a rash,
Perhaps tonight was the night they would take out the trash?.
This night on the word of often-wrong Rubin
Mets fans hoped he knew what was doing,
When, what should appear on my ESPN screen.,
But once again Ollie, man, this team’s getting creamed,
With a little old manager, so boring and dumb,
I knew in a moment it must be Sir Numb.
More numerous than rats his bunts they became,
In their suffering Mr. Buntz, Mets fans gave him that name;
“Now, Ollie! now, Frenchy! now, Luis, up the lineup like a yoyo
On, Hacking! on Slashing! on the orders of HoJo!
Far short of the porch! Far short of the wall!
A ground ball to second is a bad ground ball!
As dry heaves that occur when all bases occupied,
If not for Dickey no runs come home for our guys,
So down to Atlanta mighty Wilpon he flew.,
With hopes of more than a closed-door meeting for you.
And then, in a twinkling, I prayed for the word
That Jerry was released back into the herd.
As I watched without jinxing, through words and not sound,
Down from the air Jeffy came, he rolled into town.
He was dressed all in gold, from his head to his britches.,
And his clothes were all paid for by daddy’s ole riches.
A bundle of signings tattooed on his back,
Were all signed like a junkie who got financed for crack.
Our eyes— oh so wistful! Like Staten Island Joe on the ferry.
With hope that Jeffy would break his bad signing cherry!
One moment we all saw the future as hearty.
And Jerry, the girlfriend, in a K-Rod/Burgos party;
The apple we hoped it would all rise again,
As Metsdom was purged of Manuel sin;
We looked on with hope and fair bit of grission.
That shook, when we supposed the purpose of this mission..
Jeffy had us all stumped, a retarded old elf,
As we wondered just what he had ever done for himself.
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
Soon gave me to know that we were right in our dread;
He spoke not a word, and declined his own work,
and Mets fans once again had had enough of this jerk,
Without a question for the many that sadly supposed,
To support the team, despite its failure against foes;
But without even a moment to throw us a bone.
He left, and fans were again Kevin from Home Alone
But I heard him exclaim, as he damned us to hell.,
“Screw all you guys, just wait, til we have PSLs.”
by MookieTheCat on Aug 30, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
fantastic
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
...

Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahahahahaha
“A bundle of signings tattooed on his back,
Were all signed like a junkie who got financed for crack.”
Gold, Jerry! Gold!
"Brilliant" would be an injustice.
Bravo!, sir, and Bravo! again.
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Anywhoo….. it begs the question where do you get the free time, MTC??
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
I really hate Jerry.
I've twisted songs and poems since I was a kid, I think since I first discovered Weird Al and Mad Magazine...
The one above took about 15 or 20 minutes.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen anybody go so hot and cold so often
Very frustrating to watch.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Don't sell yourself short.
Projecting Misch to be an above average pitcher is like projecting me to be the next Joe Posnanski.
Your word count’s a little off the pace and your pun per line ratio is barely above replacement level, but your fundamentals are grammatically sound as evidenced by your career Outright Percentage of Spelling (OPS).
You certainly project well above a Bob Klapisch or Joel Sherman, at least.
by Matthew Artus on Aug 30, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Misch not the only villain
I only caught the first inning, after the leadoff single the next batter hit the ball on the ground, about 3 or 4 hops just right of 2B, but Castillo couldn’t get there (what a surprise). I think if Tejada was playing 2B, it would have been a double-play ball and they would have gotten out of the first inning without giving up a run. Then Beltran scooped it up and tried to get the runner at third (unsuccessfully), allowing the batter to get to second. So instead of 2 out and nobody on, 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. Misch is never going to get a Cy Young or anything, but crappy D doesn’t help, especially when you’re not a strikeout artist.
Of course, Wright, Davis and Frenchy combining for 8 K’s doesn’t help either. The only guy getting on base regularly seems to be Thole – which I guess explains why Jerry has him slotted to hit #7 in the order. In the immortal words of Eeyore – “Pathetic”.
Looks like the Mets <isched when they kept Mishc instead of Figgy
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Thole get triple, Mets look to be in a great spot to get back into it
but the rest of the lineup could not bring him in with 0 outs from 3rd. horrible. Hernandez walked for 1st and 3rd, Beltran needs only a fly ball to make it 5-4
this is where we lose games, Thole seems to come thru in these ABs while the team doesn’t
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
LOL, Ollie
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 30, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
Frenchy's one of my favorite Mets--even though sometimes swings and Misches--
how’d he do tonight?
Sorry I Misched it.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
I'm all for giving Mejia a couple of starts to get his feet wet and see how he does
but I just do not have faith that the Mets FO will handle this properly. If he does great, which you would think I as a Met fan would root for, they will force him into the rotation next year even though he will not have the innings build up required of a starter. Then, I will be forced to rely on the Mets “brain trust” [the same people who give millions to an investor without asking for evidence, cannot celebrate their own history without being begged by fans, etc] to figure out how to properly handle him. On the other hand he struggles and the Mets overreact and he falls out of favor. It sucks that I am forced to believe that an above informed fan has a better chance of running this team than the guys being paid millions. What a joke
In case anyone cares...
Hiroki Kuroda has a no-no in the 8th against the Phils. His catcher (and guy who hit a HR)? Rod motherfucking Barajas.
he blows all sorts of things
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope Dickey drills him, one of these days.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a lime rickey for a limerick
There is a pitcher -Pat Misch
Who looked to be finding his niche
But as October draws near
It’s becoming quite clear
They’ll have to time to golf, hunt and fish.
I say the Mets should sign Kuroda!
….
hahaha Ollie pitched, really? Leave it up the Braves to squash what hopes remain with this team…and use Ollie in a live batting-practice game…
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
That brings up a limerick
The Mets should sign Hiroki Kuroda
And offer free whiskey with soda
And as for Pat Misch,
replace him with “Fish”
Give the ball to old Abe Vigoda
It's a Mischtery as to why Omar still has a job...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 31, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
Or as Roger Clemens put it
Andy Pettite Misch-remembered
tonights pitching effort was a real Misch-mash of failure
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by KeithsMoustache on Aug 31, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It's only August and the Mets have been dis-Misched from the playoffs,
and any hope of ever contending with the Misch-erable Wilpons running this Misch-guided team.
A Journey Through Failure: the Minaya Era Mets
This team needs a large makeover
Like I said before I think it makes sense to get rid of Reyes and Beltran. Wright is the only guy worth keeping. Depending on what we could get for them I think they could give us a nice package. Some team would definitely love to get their hands on Reyes and might offer us a nice package. (I have nothing against those two, like everyone says, i just think their time has come and gone and this team needs a big mental and physical change)
A crazy trade idea that I would like and think would really set this team up for the future would be to send something like Reyes, Beltran, Fernando Martinez to the Mariners for Ackley, Figgins and their top pitching prospect Michael Pinieda. If this were to ever work, which i’m not saying it would, might require a little more from the Mets side. And the Mariners would probably never do this since they would want to keep Ackley and Pinieda. But if they love Reyes and Beltran who they could put in the OF with Ichiro and use as a DH, then who knows. And maybe they are high on Fernando as well even though he hasn’t shown much.
I love Ackley who is a hitter and could be the answer for us in RF, Figgins would be a great option at 2b and leadoff for the next few years (even though everyone thinks he is paid too much and will be a Castillo repeat; I think hes much better than Luis) and Pinieda has the look of a mid to top line starter.
I would like our lineup to do well next year, as long as the pitching improved, going with Figgins, Pagan, Wright, Davis, Bay, Ackley, Thole, Tejada. That should be a productive run producing lineup, provided Davis improves and Bay returns to his norm and Ackley can hold his own. But I would like the youth movement and the new core of young guys led by the elders of Wright, Bay and Figgins. Also Figgins and Tejada would be a pretty formidable defensive duo up the middle.
Then we sign Webb and maybe add Mejia to the rotation with Dickey as our insurance. A little bullpen tooling and our future is looking up.
Trading Reyes is beyond ridiculous.
How bout we upgrade the positions were actually not good at?
by Mike Clemente on Aug 31, 2010 3:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I gotta agree with this...
Before we add any more uncertainty in a position where we know, at the very, absolute least, we have a decent player, we should work on the many positions where we don’t even have that.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade F!, Reyes, Beltran
for Pinieda, Figgins and Ackley and you think the Mariners wouldn’t do it?
You’re undervaluing Beltran and Reyes so much
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
by firejerrynow on Aug 31, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
eh
I’m not sure if the Mariners would do it. I’d say at this point Beltran has zero value. Even if he returns to a 3-4 WAR player he’ll be overpaid next year and teams won’t be able to offer him arbitraton. Unless a teams in a pennant race down the stretch and in desperate desperate need of an outfielder it just doesn’t make sense for anyone to give up real prospects to take him on. Similarly with Reyes, he’s actually having a good season but can no longer stay on the field consistently and only under team control. It would really make zero sense for the Mariners to give up their top two prospects for one year of an overpaid CF they can’t collect draft picks for and a short stop who can’t stay healthy.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Unless he returns to past form and then some...
He is squarely in the liability column of the batting balance sheet, at least if viewed in light of his paycheck.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes sense to get rid of Reyes and Beltran
No it doesn’t.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 31, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad I misched this game
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
I've been misching every game for awhile now, just catching the "highlights"
heh. the problem is, what other players are GOOD, and “valuable” to other ballclubs? no one wanted Suckcouer, not even Dayton Moore!
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
GUYS I was the part of 6% that voted in Ollie's favor!!!!!!! He is my long distant cousin
………..LOL jking
I just wanted to see if I could make it 99.99% to .01% I wanted to be the .01% lolol
by HELLYEAHGARYOAK on Aug 31, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

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