Mejia Brings Hope Applesauce - Mets lose in Atlanta, Jenrry's sparkling AAA debut, Dickey & US Open
by Joe Budd on Aug 31, 2010 8:13 AM EDT
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Meet the Mets
Jeff Wilpon traveled all the way to Atlanta to stand around near the Met dugout and watch his team fall to 11 games behind the Braves. That sounds about right. But, the bigger, more important story was happening up in Buffalo: Jenrry Mejia 8 innings, 1 run, 9 Ks.
Keith Hernandez didn't join the Met firesale crowd, led by the Daily News' Tim Smith, but he doesn't think that it would hurt to see if there are any offers out there for Wright and Reyes. Ted Berg takes a similar stand on the issue here.
RA Dickey is getting mentioned more frequently as people's favorite Met and expressing his desire to be a U.S. Open ball boy (but loving his beard too much to do it) can only help his cause.
The Mets plan to have Daniel Murphy play some winter ball.
Who said Kirk Nieuwenhuis can't play center field?
Around MLB
The Stephen Strasburg fallout continues as MASN announced that fat loudmouth Rob Dibble will not be making the next Nats roadtrip. Former pitching phenom Mark Prior also weighed in on the injury, saying that the Nationals are not to blame for this.
Manny Ramirez is now officially a member of the White Sox. Ramirez's acquisition gave Ken Rosenthal a chance to get on his soapbox and sanctimoniously say that Manny's behavior should keep him out of the Hall of Fame.
El Duque, who had been pitching for the Nationals' AA affiliate, left the club suddenly after learning that he would not be earning a roster spot with Washington. Hernandez had pitched well so far this season with a 1.86 ERA in six appearances.
The Reds have brought up Aroldis Chapman to give their bullpen a shot in the arm. Once there, he will learn how to Riverdance to impress his manager.
Met killer Luis Ayala has been signed by the Rockies.
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When did Luis Ayala earn the title "Met killer"?
Was that when we was with the Mets or when he pitched against them?
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
isn't this the classic definition of "Met killer"?
Someone who has pitched for the Mets at one time and against them at another time.
who doesn't have the title of Met killer?
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
"Met Cyanide"
Might be a better, truer description.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Aug 31, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Met-hemoglobin....
Is a form of hemoglibin that cannot carry oxygen. It literally sucks the air right out of you.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"Mets killer" is a redundancy
Just about any pitcher the Mets have faced in the last two months is a Mets killer.
Mejia
I don’t know if Mejia brings hope, I think he will just be another pitcher that Manuel will over-use to the point of breaking. Thus will end the career of a really good Met prospect pitcher and will solidify our self-loathing nature when, after that, we continue to be Mets fans. [sigh]
damn bro
it’s a little early to be breaking hearts man. Even with the truth.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
At the very least
at least there not binging him up only to put him in the pen.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Nope. Just to blow out his arm.
I’m wondering when, exactly the Mets are going to have him throw the kind of innings a young starter needs to throw in the minors, and if they put him in the major league rotation next year, which in their infinite wisdom it looks like they’re going to do what, if any, limits they’ll put on his workload. His innings totals since 2007:
2007 43.2
2008 71.2
2009 94.2
2010 70.0
This doesn’t look like the record of a pitcher being groomed to start, it looks like the record of a guy either being groomed for the pen, or a guy who gets hurt every year. It does look a little like FMart’s yearly PAs, if you took those numbers as the numerator of a fraction the denominator of which would be the typical workload for a healthy starter in the minors, around 160 innings.
This won’t end well.
Btw, Niese has had the same injury a couple of years running, and is closing in on
160 innings this year as opposed to 120 last year. Time to think about shutting him down?
Omar said he wanted to talk about shutting him down
and then the next day Jerry said “nah” through the media.
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Oh, believe me, I want him in AA to finish the year
and to start next season.
It’s just that, if they absolutely must call him up, at least they’re using him as a starter.
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This is the greatest day ever!
Rob Dibble is off my tv, and the odds are he ain’t coming back. I actually think this is the right move for the wrong reason, but I don’t care. See ya later Robby.
dibble was a real zilch on the airwaves
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
....all I can say about Dibble.....
hey, how’s the grandma you hit that 100 MPH fastball doing?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on Aug 31, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Murphy almost the forgotten man
he could have been playing 2B with the Mets by now, and while I have no idea how his fielding would be, we know hi shitting is better than Castillo or Tejada, especially his SLG
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think it's too early to forget about him
He may still be able to contribute … and players like that are valuable when cheap
by Brian Mangan on Aug 31, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
"we know hi shitting is better than Castillo or Tejada."
Most definitely. Now what’s hi shitting?
by Pack Bringley on Aug 31, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I rec'd it just for that reason
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Rec'd as well....
But we all know that Josh Thole’s child Shi will lead the league in this….
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hey I am no typist but as a proctologist
I say hi shitting sounds painful
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't say much about this....
But for some reason I have Ini Kamoze in my head right now.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope there's a med for that
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
his hitting
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Aug 31, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
oh thats grand
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Mejia
looking sharp..great promise for the Mets…lets hope it is next season and not waste him this season
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
I am laughing
Omar was quoted in USA today saying its not a market you can go young, What is Mejia, Tejada and Fmart 51 instead of 21
Minaya's just one of those guys who gives every indication, not of being outright stupid,
but that he’s just not really at all clear on any one subject.
i refuse to give him
my click. I will not read that article.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Remind me too
I unfortunately read it and my brain still hurts. How do those guys have jobs? Trade everybody but Santana, and then you know what? You have to REPLACE them! Geez and right after he lists all the reasons why the Mets should trade them. Hmmmm…I’m sure that will make for a fair and equitible swap. I mean it’s never really about who you trade it’s about who you get back but we aren’t trading Perez (or even Wright) for Poo-Holes you MSM morons!
Why do they think, “Just trade these guys away” and then play with what? 4 Coras and 4 Francoeurs? I almost wish the Mets did trade them all away while sinking to 30 – 132 replacement level whils the MSM write the , “Why did the Mets trade t heir only good players away?” articles. Gackkkkk!!!!!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I'm confused.
Why are some people not wanting Mejia starting for the Mets in September?
He threw 94.2 innings last season and this year, combined MiLB and MLB innings, he has thrown 70. If you want him to be a starting pitcher for the big club, you’re going to want him to have ~115-130 innings this season so he can go up to ~140-160 next season. We’re out of the playoff race and the experience in the majors would be fantastic for him.
by Jamesir Bensonmum on Aug 31, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
2 words
Jerry Manuel
2 more words: the mets
we will break him somehow. Jerry will let him throw 3 innings in a start and then have him pitch mop up duty 5 days in a row. Then Omar will have him start games on 3 days rest to build up his arm strength.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I have this image...
of Omar and Jerry holding Mejia down on a table, laughing hysterically, while they try an sever his pitching arm. All while, Wilpon sits in the back corner, smoking a cigarette, with an evil smirk on his face. Man, I am twisted today.
I see Jerry putting Mejia in a Fujiwara armbar
"It’s like being in love with an alcoholic. It’s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, ‘Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,’ and you’re like, ‘Nah, you don’t know her like I do."- Jim Breuer
you say that like it's a bad thing
why get a top starting pitcher, if you could have the next Mike Marshall? He won a Cy Young! His pitching system of working an absurdly huge workload at about half effectiveness must be ideal!
You don't really think that right?
A lot of people disagreed with having Mejia in the pen to start the year but they didn’t abuse the kid. They are out of the race now and they know it, they certainly won’t abuse his arm now. The Mets have given absolutely no inclination that they want to abuse any of their youngsters. You can argue maybe Niese, but that’s still an open question.
by Brian Mangan on Aug 31, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I consider calling up a 20 year old kid who only has 79.3 IP above High-A ball
to be abuse.
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um if he's effective yeah
Jerry was using him like every other day, and basically having him warm up every night, until he blew a couple saves in late May and Jerry decided he hated him.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
You forgot....
That they will warm him up every night for the rest of the season, then sit him down and warm him up again 2 innings later.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Gina's right. There's no way Mejia should be allowed anywhere near Manuel.
It’s not the number of innings—that’s irrelevant at this point. The Mets screwed that pooch during the spring when they had a putative starter going an inning at a time. It has plenty to do with the plain fact that Mejia no more belongs in the majors than Ruben Tejada does. Guys do stupid things when they’re thrown into situations where they are way, way over their heads. He has no business in the majors before the middle of 2012, at the earliest.
There’s also the problem of continuing to move a young guy around, exposing him to too many coaches (several of which are obviously clueless), and throwing off his routine. I assume he’s going to winter ball, so that’s yet another coach and another routine. Winter ball is actually necessary since nothing has been done in his four years in the Mets system to build up his arm strength.
Then there’s the simple fact that using Mejia as a starter in NY does nothing towards building the rotation for 2011 (the same way using Tejada at 2b in August does nothing towards figuring out the 2b position for 2011). Dillon Gee needs to be getting those starts. The FO really is stupid enough to think that Mejia can pitch in the rotation come April 2011, and some of the reaction against him pitching in Buffalo, then NY, is a reaction to that idiocy. He’s already pitched in NY. Pitching there isn’t going to be a “fantastic experience” for him. Sorry, it’s just not. It’s part and parcel of the Mets mishandling yet another ballplayer.
Is it going to do him irreparable harm? Probably not, but there’s literally no good reason for it. He’s already proven he can’t get major league hitters out, and that was in a relief role, where it’s easier. HIS WHIP was 1.6, and he was walking 5 per 9 in NY. He was only slightly better than that in AA. Mejia was sub-replacement level in NY. The question isn’t why are people objecting to this, the question really is, why on earth would anyone think this is a good idea?
hold on..HOLD ON!
Keith is a sort of believer in the TRAID DA CORE mentality. i am saddened by this.
this is against the rules on aa. My mind has been blown.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
it seems as if he is only saying
to see what is out there. Cant say I totally disagree. As Ted Berg said, if its a Felix Hernandez for Reyes type deal then sign me up.
I doubt a deal will come along that would be worth it, and if it was going to happen a trade deadline type deal (where you can convnice some team on the cusp to overpay) would prob be ideal… but it certainly wont hurt to have an idea where the players stand in the eyes of the league.
Gary also put Mex on the spot there…
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
to Mex's credit
He did say it would have to be a blockbuster, and you wouldn’t get “copped liver” in return for Wright or Reyes. But I don’t think I could pull the trigger on something like that. The problem these past few years haven’t been on that side of the infield. And this year, despite the performances of Maine and Perez — or lack thereof — the problem really hasn’t been starting pitching. I don’t think I could trade away what is working to address what isn’t.
eh
even if the problem hasn’t been Reyes it’s incredibly hard to see a situation where Hernandez won’t be the more valuable player going forward, just in terms of this specific example.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
agreed
and the mets are at the stage where they should be compiling talent. Filling the gaps is for when you can legitimately compete, but otherwise, the better player is better to have.
that being said
the mariners would probably laugh from now till next april at that trade offer
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
oh
dont get my wrong. I am not saying that trade will happen.
Just that if someone was to offer a great player for reyes, I would not be agaisnt it. Just saying he is not a untouchable.
I would also be interested in some real A+ AAA prospects… but it would have to be a really really great package.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
Yeah
FWIW, I made that reference in jest since King Felix, as an awesome 24-year-old pitcher who has thrown 190+ innings in five straight seasons and is locked up below market rate for the next four seasons, was the most desirable player I could think of off the top of my head.
Yeah I can't really think of a trade involving Reyes
that would make sense for us and the other team, the best I could come up with is something like a Reyes for Sizemore swap but I think we’d be on the losing end, just because Sizemore’s struggles/injuries are more severe IMO.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Sizemore
Had friggin microfracture surgery. That is a million times worse than anything Reyes has gone through. They aren’t even comparable really.
by DannyMetsGeek on Aug 31, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
hence why I said his struggles injuries are more severe
the point is more you have to recently elite players hampered by injuries, Reyes just has fewer years under team control.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I see your point
But you said you “think” we’d be on the losing end. We would definitely be on the losing end. Sizemore is the first baseball player I know of that is trying to come back from microfracture surgery. I understand you mean trade one elite player with injury history for another, but doesn’t that highlight why we should keep Reyes? Even if we can find another elite player with an injury history comparable to Reyes, we might as well play the lottery with our own guy since he plays a premium position and we have nobody even close in place to logically replace him.
by DannyMetsGeek on Aug 31, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet Mex is so frustrated with what he has seen
Ant the team he loved to play on be a laughing stock all yr
Well...
I wouldn’t call the Cardinals a laughingstock this year. They’ve struggled lately but have had a decent year overall.
by DannyMetsGeek on Aug 31, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Feel sorry for season ticket holders who can't even give their tickets away.
BLOW THIS TEAM UP!!!!!
Dodgers-Phillies Game
Indirectly Mets related…
I went last night and it was great to see the Phillies get one-hit and on top of that, to see Halladay get shelled (it was a shelling for Halladay).
So apparently Mejia really does have 2 distinct FB's
a 4-seamer with movement and a cutter. Interesting.
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O/T (kinda)
Is it really pronounced “New-en-hice” like it is in the video? I would have thought it was “New-en-hue-iss”.
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Funny business from the Daily News.
“Manuel is a goner. Minaya is too, if he can’t define a plan that can turn this thing around in the next couple of years – the length of his contract.”
So if this is to be believed, Minaya has “only” two more years to get things figured out with the Mets. Well that made my fuckin’ day! In other words, if he keeps screwing up, the Wilpons are going to punish him by not extending his contract.
Here’s an interesting take on the subject:
“Veteran players knew that the team had abandoned all hope after the All-Star break. Francisco Rodriguez was the only one that it got to. The others bit their tongues and are being professional. Now here they are, waiting until next year.”
I wouldn’t call it “professional”, I’d call it sickeningly wimpy. Interesting, the idea that part of what pushed FRoddy over the edge was that the front office quit on the team.
I wouldn't call lobbying for more playing time "professional"...
And I call shenanigans on this:
Get a fiery manager like Wally Backman to kick them all in the backside, and then see what happens
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I believe that this had a lot to do with the K-Rod thing....
He handled it badly, but who wants to play on a team that has given up? I think a lot can be said of the team’s inability to get ti going late in games, mostly, that there has to be some sort of psychological basis. The whole thing about playing cards before games rather than working on playing better baseball spoke volumes as well.
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