Francoeur Traded To Texas; Duda And Mejia Called Up
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2010 10:38 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger (and several others), Jeff Francoeur has been traded to the Texas Rangers. For whom is not yet known, but that is irrelevant. The Francoeur era is mercifully over, and players who might contribute past 2010 will hopefully have a shot at playing in September. Think Lucas Duda and Nick Evans.
Andy Martino of the Daily News reports that Duda and Jenrry Mejia will be with the club tomorrow. Fine by me.
I know a lot of you love Frenchy, so this is your thread to say goodbye.
...and the boys of the NYPD choir were hauling K-Rod away... as the fans were screaming out: "Oh happy day!"...
Update: The Mets will receive infielder Joaquin Arias from Texas, per MLBTR. Arias turns 26 in three weeks and has a career MLB line of .286/.322/.379 in 242 plate appearances. He has mostly played second base but has experience at shortstop and third base.
Update #2:
Update #3: Frenchy's final slash lines with the Braves and Mets:
Braves: .266/.308/.424
Mets: .268/.311/.423
Update #4:
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During the Texas broadcast they said we are getting Arias
Jerry and Omar assclowns for life
by Ghost of seven in a row on Aug 31, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
I believe it's joaquin arias who Texas dfa'ed earlier this week
Jerry and Omar assclowns for life
by Ghost of seven in a row on Aug 31, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is GeddyLeeIsGod these days? I guess this is the last time I get to whip out Jeddy Leecoeur. 'Twas fun.
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 31, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
"I know a lot of you love Frenchy"
Indeed, Geddyleeisgod is probably crying right now.
by secret defense on Aug 31, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
This time, we are really Putting It In The Books. Or, Putting It In The Butt. Which ever you prefer. Goodbye, Frenchy.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Summing up Frenchy's legacy in New York:
When all is said and done, I think we can all agree, that of all the players every to were a Mets uniform, Jeff Francoeur was definitely one of them.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
by kendynamo on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 17 recs
Deep stuff, man.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Photoshop is a wonderful thing.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Talk about an uninspiring trade from both sides
I never really liked Arias, but he’s pretty terrible. Hopefully the NL treats him better than the AL did
Fantastic news
Just free Nick Evans and I’ll be singing all the Duda day.
by jacksonvillesuns on Aug 31, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
the poodle bites
(come on, Frenchy)
the poodle chews it
the poodle bites
(come on, Frenchy)
the poodle chews it
not a speck of cereal. nothin’ but the best for my dawg.
by Help!I'maRock! on Aug 31, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Na Na Na Na....
Sorry for posting this so much recently….But it just feels good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE
This is a great great day
We are almost there. Now Jerry, Omar, and oliver need to go next. Here’s to hoping arias never sees the light of day on our mlb roster, even though we know he will.
by Criss Angel Couldn't Make Frenchy Vanish on Aug 31, 2010 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Don't forget Luis
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
YAY
A reason to watch Mets baseball again! Now at least when my mother asks “how can you even watch them?” I’ll have an answer!
Goodbye Frenchy
i’ll miss your sub .300 OBP, your .237 BA, and your lack plate discipline
"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry
by Jadden Hopkins on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
last year's epic race to .300 OBP!
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
I'll take the blame for this monstrosity
It was a response to this piece of awesomeness by Sam
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
*Duda Dickey Dickey Dum Dickey Du(da)*
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
by The 'Ropolitans on Aug 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Frenchy gets to join his buddy Alex Cora in Texas because...
his contract was purchased when Arias was DFA’d a few days ago! Yippee! I love other team's trash!
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/08/rangers-purchase-contract-of-a.html
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by Steve Schreiber on Aug 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Mets get Arias, apparently
http://twitter.com/JeffWilson_FWST/status/22671827257
The deal: Francoeur and cash to the Rangers, Joaquin Arias to the Mets.
Rangers already sent out a press release confirming this...
Check Arias’ numbers. A weak-hitting 2B who never walks (2 BBs in 100 PAs this year)
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we can trade Arias for Ryan Church
That way it would be like Frenchy never happened
by packard37 on Aug 31, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arias has a far higher OPS than Church.
Which is really sad. Brain injury is serious business.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a quick tidbit of how the yanks always luck out
When the yanks traded for A-rod and sent Soriano to Texas. They had a list to pick from and Texas took Arias over Robby Cano. Yea Fucking Yanks always luck out with this kind of shit.
why what has Church done since we traded him except for suck
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Sep 1, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Suck less than Francoeur, that's what he's done.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, as much as I want Francoeur gone
that’s not really a good deal.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Just shut up shut up shut up....
Savor the moment. :)
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR ME LALALALALA!
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Fuck you, Frenchy.
You’re terrible.
ain't had enough...
by BlackOps on Aug 31, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I got 99 problems but Frenchy aint one.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Joaquin Arias is a firin ur lazerz
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
In conjunction with the "Circle of life" comment above:
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.
Dude, that looks creepy!
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
yay!
I don’t care what we got back for him. As long as he’s not wasting ABs any longer, I’m happy.
"It’s just everytime we think the bar can’t get lower, they lower it. Now next year we’ll just be happy to hear that rogue shirtless officials aren’t implementing useless detrimental drills in spring training for no apparent reason."
-Gina, 3/1/10
by Greenpoint Ian on Aug 31, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone have any idea how much cash went along with Frenchy?
I want to see how much we had to pay for the Rangers to fill one of their needs?
FUCK YES
This is seriously one of the greatest moments of the season
Also, why are the Mets obsessed with promoting Mejia so quickly. He has one good start in AAA and a few in AA, so now he gets promoted?
it doesn't hurt
we can afford to give him on the job training, where he should be (in the rotation)
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
then why not let him pitch in Buffalo when they're in a pennant race?
by Help!I'maRock! on Aug 31, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
they're 4 back now with 8 to play
kind of loose definition of pennant race
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
Is it really?
I’m afraid Arias is 2011’s #1 option at second. I mean, I hate Francoeur. No sugarcoating there. But, let’s remember this is the Mets and take a step back and look at this, they probably view Arias as a top option for next year at second, and until we/they figure that out, I’m still scared.
ain't had enough...
He also is making $500k, so with Frenchy not around next year we may....
Ya know, be able to sign someone decent.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on!
We all know Murphy is Plan A#1 at 2B next year…
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i hear
hi shitting will be an improvement.
by Pack Bringley on Aug 31, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hi shitting....
You’ve never heard of it?
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone's heard of hi shitting....
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Hi shitting is "it" now.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Psssst.
Was a typo on a thread yesterday or earlier today that people latched onto.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone knows hi shitting is the shit.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hi shitting is "cool"
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
/Billy Madison reference
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Ah, yes. good ol' adam sandler
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. They'll look at his lifetime .286 BA in the majors, and think they got a steal.
Never mind the 10 BBs in 254 PAs…
Hojo will have to work with him on that
Oh wait, shit.
by Pack Bringley on Sep 1, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd just like to say congrats!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Aug 31, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
Holy Shit.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
looks like the guy who sold me lunch today
by Donovan Rice on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
at least Frenchy was somewhat aesthetically pleasing
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, he looks like a little league player who can't throw straight
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Christ, it looks like he's having a stroke.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
by R_Adragna on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is he going to demand a trade
when he realizes he’s going to be a bench player?
by Mount17 on Aug 31, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
He's already a bench player...
Who got DFAd for Cora a week ago. Yes, this is all true.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"I could have been someone."
Well so could anyone!
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you.
if peeps didn't pick up the Pogues reference in James's post
This is about the most beautiful song around. Makes me cry!
by Pack Bringley on Aug 31, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And I was like EMMMIIILLLLIIIIIOOOOOO!!!
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So...You wanna dance?
We’re not in the club yet.
…..Right.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously the most underrated movie of will ferrell's career
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
More like the 24
He will be playing in blue and orange with the MLB team
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by sj10689 on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah but I mean is he going to be on the 40 though
because he wasn’t before
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Rosters expanded 17 minutes ago (which I forgot at the time of writing)
But yes, he will be on the 39.
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by sj10689 on Sep 1, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There needs to be some fitting bookend to Francoeur Avenue
We need closure. Step up your games Simon, Cannonglaser, Page and co.!
Wow, you know your awesome when you've been traded in 2 years
for Ryan Church and Jaquin Arias
Oh happy day....
Hopefully this is the end of the “good personalities who are sub-par players” era.
I won’t hold my breath.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
and also the Jeff Francoeur era?
"Having over half of your lineup batting .250 or less with no poers hitters is a certain death."
-Simon Damrow
by VivaLosBravos on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Prob my favorite player on the team, I'll definitely miss him
Hopefully the Texas ballpark helps him out a bit and he can get back into the groove of things. Best of luck frenchy.
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
No one argue with Rey-O! Woo hoo doesn't matter! LOVE LOVE LOVE
by Pack Bringley on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"Are we awake?"
“We’re not sure. Are we black?”
“Yes, we are.”
“Then we’re awake!”
But we're very puzzled
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 1, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Huuuuuuuuh?
You, sir, cannot be serious!
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No, everyone is happy HAPPY HAPPY
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 31, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Definitely serious
He was a fun player, easy to root for. The mets are pretty much devoid of personality, so as a fan there’s really not much there to get behind. I like reyes too, but unfortunately he’s injured.
"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell
Ohmigod YES
Just when I thought the 2010 New York Mets couldn’t make me happy, that I should think about leaving them for good, they go and do this, and my heart melts. Mets, I don’t know how to quit you.
by anonymous on Aug 31, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It seems like the Mets have two GMs
The dumb one, presumably Omar, who overpaid Cora, brought in Matthews, and Jacobs, relied too heavily on Francoeur, etc..
And the smart one, who got rid of Matthews, sent down Jacobs, cut Cora, and now excised Francoeur.
What gives? Is the second guy John Ricco (sp?)? Does anyone know why they seem to be pulling in two different directions, and is there one guy upstairs who is following the smart suggestions in blogs and perhaps overriding Omar? Any inside info?
um I think its more like
those guys were so awful even morons couldn’t keep them around. Dfaing guys with sub .650 OPS’s doesn’t take someone smart.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
This....
Also, making last-minute desperation moves to minimize damage in a minor way after a season of fail doesn’t exactly make one a genius.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
But they had no reason to expect anything else from most of them, especially Cora. Also they gave up Matthews very quickly, as if the person who brought him in was then overridden. I still sense that there are two “minds” at work here.
Maybe...
But it also could be that they are terrible at reading the writing on the wall in advance, but when someone is putting up GMJ numbers (see below) it becomes hard to ignore. Really hard.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
58 At bats
Is a small sample upon which to judge. I’m not saying that Matthews should have stayed. But I am surprised that someone thought he should be the opening day CF, and then that same someone decided after 58 at bats that he was completely washed up.
Perhaps I’m too optimistic, but it just seems that the Mets have gotten smarter about things lately. You all can say that the moves were obvious, but the dumb moves they were making were obviously dumb, and they seem to have stopped.
58 at bats and 5 years?
I think it’s more likely Jerry thought he should be opening day cf and Omar has little to do with how Jerry sets his line ups/uses his players.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
That's my feeling, as though Jeffy says stuff like,
“now, Omar, you get the players, but it’s up to Jerry to figure out how he wants to use them when they get here.”
I am looking forward to Minaya’s tell-all book. There should be some interesting stuff in it.
I dunno...
You could be right, but I’m inclined to think that the team maxed out on dumb moves even before the season began. Have you seen the opening day roster on here? Pretty much everyone on there was a mistake. Hard to make more mistakes once you’ve done that.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
But sometime around May or June, obviously dumb moves stopped and seemingly smarter ones started, Maybe Omar got smart, I don’t know. He must have loved Cora, though, for his veteran savvy, and Cora’s gone.
Perhaps Jeffy is reading the blogs and stepping in.
eh i think it's more likely what Mookie said
it looks like they made more smart moves because they made an insane amount of bad ones in the off-season even by their standards.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I wouldn't count of Jeffy being the voice of reason...
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GMJ was meant to be a bench player
58 ABs, maybe a small sample size, but it was just painful to watch – it was fairly obvious, based on the plate appearances I’ve seen, that GMJ was unfit for the roster, even as a bench player. Stats can’t always take the place of observation.
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The stats were right in-line with observations....
both said he was horrible.
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I have not believed Omar was in complete charge
since the Bernazard presser. But he clearly has had input, judging by the abject stupidity of some of the moves
Yes
Still one of my favorite lines this year, Sam writing like “When GMJ posted a line of .190/.266/.241, the Mets realized something was definitely up!”
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets' front office
Just like that one kid who goes to Walmart, gets his/her parents to buy a $20 toy because it looks cool, than does the same thing two weeks later and throws away the old one (or misplaces it). It’s the same mentality.
In a world of trial and error, there have been plenty of trials and even more errors within the Mets’ FO.
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So really,
There is no Jekyll and Hyde scheme – when a player fails to produce (aka “gets boring”), the office reacts with id tendencies, just like originally.
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Not really
They waited till all of those guys failed HARD — like insanely abominably terribly hard — before they got rid of them.
by Pack Bringley on Aug 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the reason I like this so much
Is that it suggests other moves are coming, too. Why trade an Outfield Frenchy for an Infield Frenchy, and one that might not actually be as good as the OFF? Because it makes Castillo even more easy to eliminate. Not happy riding the pine, Luis? We’ve got ANOTHER replacement for you.
This sounds right...
With Cora gone and Tejada not MLB-ready, this is actually a pretty good deal as I see it. From what I can tell (and with SSS) Arias is not a bad fielder and is a better hitter than Tejada by a long shot.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not arb eligible til 2012 and is making close to the minimum...
Better.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but we'll be paying castillo anyway
we might as well play him over the inferior player
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Baby steps Gina. Baby Steps.
Regardless of whether we keep or release Arias, Frenchy is gona. Arias is not the issue here.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
seems more likely that they'll move castillo now
is what I’m saying.
It’ll be a terrible deal, yes, but I’ll be happy for the change.
We saved $4.5 million by switching to Arias.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn't save a cent
We picked up te difference in their salaries, and if Arias is still with us next year we got fleeced.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 1, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Arias was so bad he was DFA'd to make room for Alex Cora
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, this is ironic
One teams gets rid of Arias to get Cora.
The other gets rid of Cora and subsequently fills the gap with Arias.
You do the math.
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the math is good on next year's
payroll balance sheets
At least we have that too look forward to
I can’t see Arias being paid $2M+ next year (arb. eligible), though a good month might entice the FO to maybe do that
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Oh no. NONONONONONONoononononono.
Please. Let’s not go there.
Arias is a replacement level 2bman who took 10 walks in 242 PAs. Subreplacement level, if we’re going to be precise.
Francouer walks more often than Arias does. If Francouer drove you crazy, Arias will have you building bombs.
This is his line this year: .276/.290/.347
UZR has him as well below average at every position, and -7.7 for his career (SSS) at 2b.
He’s an organizational soldier, that’s all. It’s a facesaving gesture, is all. The Mets should DFA him in three days.
He’s all right if he gets into three games when the MI injury bug is going around the ML team. Anything more than that and you’re punting the season.
In other words, he’s no doubt second on the Mets depth chart going into 2011.
This move doesn't matter either way
It saves us like no money, it gets us a useless player. It’s a nothing move. If the Mets are gonna suck, I kind of liked to have Frenchy around because at least I like him.
It is though just another indication that the Mets are finally getting smart and biting the bullet.
It matters
Because guys who otherwise might not have played with Frenchy still around might get a shot. If the Mets are gonna suck I’d rather they do it with young, inexperienced players who might help us going forward. Not non-tender bait like Failcoeur. This is good news, and no amount of devil’s advocacy can ruin it.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
and it at least means we won't be resigning him for 2011...
or does it?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
What if they announced Wally as manager tonight?
Would that ruin your moment? :P
Sorry, had to. You haven’t seemed happy in so long.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd pop the Champagne
Wally Whitehurst was an early favorite in my Mets fandom.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Battery mate of one of my faves...
Jeff Musselman. In the famous Whitehurst/Musselman/Machado middle relief combination.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Scratch that.
Got my terrible Mets teams mixed up there.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't hang myself
but I might do something. GM first, please.
It's not devil's advocacy, its being objective about a situation that most people are emotional about.
Schmidtxc does a great job below outlining another reason why it isn’t the best trade ever — Arias might be kept.
Duda will probably suck here in September the same way that Chris Carter and other unathletic, suspect older prospects have done. Either way, a few meaningless at bats in September isn’t going to be the difference between whether he succeeds or fails.
Would I trade Francoeur for Arias? Sure, why not. It just, at first blush, doesn’t seem to matter much.
by Brian Mangan on Sep 1, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
what? how has chris carter sucked?
and how is Duda a suspect older prospect…he’s 24?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Carter has not been a total wash.....
But I think that an argument that he sucks is based in reason. 269 .320 .395 .715
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
most of thats from his first two months
look at his split for this month
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Yeah not getting too excited about a 1-month split.
By a non-starter.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
but you'll get excited about 120 at bats
for a player playing like once a week?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
More > Less
But Carter, c’mon, has not exactly been The Answer. I’m not excited about him either way. I just know that he looks like a lot of other Mets hitters recently. When you try to attack a qualified positiion with a weaker argument for a non-qualified point, that’s what happens.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
He said he sucks...
You said he doesn’t suck.
I said that based on his season-long stats an argument that he sucks was not unreasonable.
You said look at the last month.
I said the last month doesn’t mean a whole lot.
You said that the whole season doesn’t mean a whole lot.
So I question, why did you say he does not suck if my rationale for saying he could be described as sucking is too weak, yet the argument that he may not suck is even weaker?
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Any player with potential but is relagated to pinch hitting once a week
then starting a game or two then sitting a game or to is going to underperform. When you don’t have consistant AB’s your gonna struggle. Throw Dubbs into that role and he will fail also
No my point was more
128 PA’s in general doesn’t tell you anything, especially when it’s being weighed down by a poor start that’s a complete opposite from what he’s been since. It’s kind of like the Davis argument in reverse the first month was likely before an adjustment. Carters numbers the last two months are way more in line with what you’d expect based on his minor league numbers.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
and 128 PA's that are scattered here and there
no consistant AB’s at that.
This sounds right...
I wish him good luck and Godspeed, and hopefully he will blossom into the next [insert player than what we got here.] I just have been seeing a whole lot of bad ABs this year, mostly in PH situations but also other times.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Point taken
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_splits.jsp?c_id=nym&playerID=452080&statType=1
I would like to see if Carter could handle an everyday (or almost everyday/platoon) job throughout an entire season
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Carter has also said how he is aggressive when pinch hitting
and much more patient when starting. That has probably had some effect.
Aggression seems to be an issue round here...
No matter who is affects.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I bet you he would do well with that job.
Telling you that if he got traded away and was an everyday player he would perform. I’d be happy with him in RF next yr.
eh I don't think he should be an everyday player
I think we should use him as a pinch runner
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Really I bet you if he started in RF and Bay in LF
next yr for the whole season. Carter would have similar if not better numbers.
I think with a non-Hojo batting coach
and bigger sample size, he’d be a fine #2 bat of the bench.
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I think I overstated the point on Duda
Duda might be ok. But he was a low draft pick who strikes out a decent amount, doesn’t have much of a track record before this season, and is an average at best 1B/OF bat. He’ll really have to hit to be worth something and he’s already 24.5
by Brian Mangan on Sep 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
how is he an average at best 1b/of bat exactly?
and he was a low draft pick because of an injury, he was a BIG TIME high school prospect who broke his wrist in college which sapped him of his power.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
As for Carter, he sucks
I wrote this in the preseason (I wont link so as to not seem trashy):
“According to the Minor League Equivalency Calculator, Carter would have batted only .247/.300/.382 last season in the majors, with only 12 home runs and more than two strikeouts for every walk. Defensively, he is known as a poor first baseman. You can sugar coat it all you like, but these are bad numbers. "
His line this year is right near that: .269/.320/.395
He just is what he is. I like the guy. He may make a good doctor some day.
by Brian Mangan on Sep 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You can't give him his final line without seeing him play everyday
not 2 days here and 1 day here. If Wright was a rookie and was brought up this yr and after the first 2 months benched him his over line would be terrible to
That may be true
But he has always had the opportunity to play every day in Triple-A and never posted a line which indicated he’d be a good enough MLB regular. Who knows, baseball is a great game. But I don’t really see any reason to think he’ll ever hit better than this as he’s in his prime right now.
by Brian Mangan on Sep 1, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah but look at the triple a line again
the equivalence calculator just makes it prediction based on what was recorded happening, but if you look at his numbers when they’re adjusted for the park, just his raw AAA OPS not the equivalence, his OPS jumps by nearly 200 points, which would probably change his equivalence calculation.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh???
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I just realized I was looking at the wrong AAA player
you can ignore that.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
But at least Arias is cheap
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I think people are being both objective and emotional
We’ve been objective for a long time now, saying Francoeur sucks and he should go. There have been plenty of objective stats. It’s no secret. So forgive people for some emotional comments when it finally happens.
“Duda will probably suck here in September”
Sounds like the defense of Mejia-to-the-bullpen that people were using back at the start of the year. “What guarantee is there that Mejia will be good as a starter?” We won’t know if he sucks unless he’s given a shot.
It’s the little things — it’s Jeremy Reed and Cory Sullivan playing in September 2009 while Nick Evans shaped out a nice ass-groove on the bench. Reed and Sullivan were kaput a couple months later. Would 2009 Evans at-bats have saved the 2010 season? No, of course not. But at least the process would be better and fans wouldn’t be annoyed at terrible veterans who had their shot playing over young’ns who might help, even a little bit, in the future.
Your third and second to last sentences say it all:
Would I trade Francoeur for Arias? Sure, why not.
There it is. Leave it at that. The rest is needless devil’s advocacy and whining about AA commenters who you seem to have it out for.
by James Kannengieser on Sep 1, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Jeff consults his Magic 8 ball
before making critical decisions
Am I the only one who thinks this trade is awful?
We had a truly awful player who was certain to be DFA’d and open a roster spot at seasons end, and we traded him for a truly awful player who may actually be kept. Releasing Francoeur would have been such an easy solution to his waste of space, and we managed to actually make the long term health of this franchise potentially even worse.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Look at the salary differential...
And arb eligibility. Twas about as good a way to get rid of Frenchy as we had. Meaning it was the only way.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares about the salary, it's more am issue of filling out the roster in 2011 with quality players.
Niether was one, but now we are potentially going into opening day carrying him. 2 weeks of good baseball will be enough to convince our front office that second base is fixed (see Francoeur, Jeff)
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 31, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Or not filling it with terrible players...
You seem to assume that Arias will be on the team. I more think of it as Frenchy not being on the team. Not clogging up the system so others don’t get a shot. Not whining his way into the lineup anymore, and not being arb eligible with a $5 million pricetag. Who cares about Arias. Although I agree that they probably will find some way to fuck this up eventually, for right now it’s a a good thing. Our long national nightmare is over.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 31, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well part of the problem is arias is a terrible player
and given the mets recent history, I imagine it’s pretty likely Arias will be on the roster. They probably see him as their second basemen of the future
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Given the expansion of the roster to 39 players,
Arias is probably auditioning for the future 2B job; I’m thinking that Murphy might be in it, though, at least next year. I don’t know exactly what the outline/strategy here is.
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there is no plan. but even worse, no one will know WHEN TO SHAVE!
chaos.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Why didnt Frenchy ever tell Frankie
to shave that god awful neck beard?
by aparkermarshall on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Do YOU want Frankie to have access to sharp objects?
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
I hear that
But I’ll reserve judgment until the offseason when the second base and bench situations are clearer. It is the Mets though, so it’s hard to expect smart decisions.
by James Kannengieser on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the trade brought duda to the bigs
It looks as though Arias isn’t on the big club’s roster. I think of the trade as Frenchy for Duda.
Rosters expand to 40 in 10 minutes
The trade wasn’t necessary for that
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
with the mets it was
kind of like how they had to move Barajas to not play him everyday over Thole
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
This is my thinking...
With him no longer around they don’t have to make the bench vs. play decision that they invariably screw up.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
You honestly think Jerry would play Duda over Frenchy?
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I really don't see Arias....
as anything more than minor league fodder. Even if he is just as bad as Frenchy, he certainly doesnt have the ever important personality that will keep him on the big club.
Omar and Jerry, dumbest tandem in baseball.
But how does Omar see him?
The same Omar that saw guys like Frenchy, Ollie, Cora, Jacobs, and Barajas as important pieces to a contending ballclub.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Aug 31, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Arias is probably out 2nd basemen of the future. He was good for like a month a year ago and probably passes Omar’s “good fielder test” (he’s small and can’t hit)
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Given that 2B is a relatively weak position,
I’ll be less disappointed if this experiment turns out to be a deja vu of Francoeur, c. last year. Still, if Arias can play good enough defense, that might make him more of an asset than meets the eye.
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actually he plays 3rd also so
Minaya will trade Wright in the off-season.
Nah, he's probably the replacement for Reyes.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I've said this before, earlier this evening...
Shut up shut up shut up shut up. Don’t give them any ideas!
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
but, but this team hasn't gone anywhere with Wrongz and RAYASS
for the past 4 years, so clearly they are the root of the team’s problems. I say we traid the core and start from scratch.
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
God, we're just beaten down
Can’t even celebrate the banishment of Frenchy without considering that this might mean Reyes or Wright gets traded.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I know they've discussed it in the booth this week.
Not that that’s official, but it’s disconcerting to hear it from them all the same.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
They were talking about floating names around
not “TRAIDE TEH CORE” talk really
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Ooooooh.
Ok. I remember someone mentioning that.
Wait what?
They were talking in the booth about Wilpon wanting to move Frenchy earlier in the week? How’d we collectively miss that?
Not Frenchy,
they were discussing trading Reyes the other night.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got bad news for you.
Fangraphs has Arias as below average at all positions, and -7.7 at 2b. Small size caveats apply, but he’s nothing more than an organizational soldier who had a lucky year in 2008. His entire career is unimpressive, and it’s been fueled by a .333 BABIP. You normalize that and you have what Arias is: a guy who is replacement level at best, and you might be fourth on your depth chart, at best. He has no upside.
It’s not relevant how the Mets will use Arias, since they’re capable of misusing any player under any circumstance whatsoever. The only things of note are
1) they saved a few bucks by dumping Francouer
2) pretty much anyone they give time to and look at in RF has a better chance of helping the club in 2011 than Francouer would have. A few PAs are still a few PAs, and are better than none.
3) It’s an automatic move by a team that knows what it’s doing. I don’t know yet how much they saved, but a smart organization saves money when it can and when there is no benefit to not doing so.
4) that they should have dumped Francouer in July—that they should never have signed him—isn’t relevant to what the Mets should have done on August 31st, 2010. As of today this was the right move. A perfectly minor one, but still the right one.
I don't think we actually saved money this season
We paid the difference in their salaries, so it only saves us money if we were dumb enough to retain one of them in 2011.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 1, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
no problem
they will just give him Nick Evans’ spot on the 40
I'll miss the laser shows...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
R.I.P. Francoeur Avenue
It was a great site while it lasted.
by Reg Dunlop on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think this is the callers at WFAN meant by
TRADE THE COEUR
by Angel Muñoz on Sep 1, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Everyone do yourself a solid
and don’t listen to the radio tomorrow.
by Pack Bringley on Sep 1, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohhhhhh I think I will
and lavish in the Frano-lovers angst!
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Has this joke been made before?
Because I haven’t seen it and this is like the funniest thing I’ve read on this site all year.
by Brian Mangan on Sep 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll say a few words.
Frenchy was a good swinger, and a good man. He was…he was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors, and swinging, and as a surfer explored the beaches of southern California from Redondo to Calabassos. And he was an avid swinger. And a good friend. He died – he died as so many of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom you took him, Lord. As you took so many bright flowering your men, at Khe San and Lan Doc and Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And Frenchy too. Frenchy who…who loved swinging.
And so, Jeffrey Failcoeur Francoeur, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well.
Goodnight, sweet prince.
by ams258 on Sep 1, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
+1...But Frenchy was a worse ballplayer than Donny was bowler...
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
That second baseman really tied the infield together, Dude.
And that guy just peed all over it?
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
"He doesn't care about anything. He's a Nihilist."
“Geez. That must be exhausting.”
"Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism,
but at least it’s an ethos!"
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Are those the Nazis Walter?
No Donnie, these men are cowards
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I was out drinking instead of watching the Mets tonight
but I saw this on TV and couldn’t wait to get back and say
I can’t believe someone traded living matter for Frenchy, but at the same time i’ll miss the goofy bastard.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Sep 1, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
I hear you
No more Frenchy to make fun of (and bad MSPaintz)
:(
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
We still got Dickey Photoshopz to enjoy!
So there’s that!
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
So long Lazer! May the sweet Delta breeze always be at your back!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
PARTY TIME!
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
farewell sweet prince
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Sep 1, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
and say goodbye to these two
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 1, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
AND his sister!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 1, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
She looks slightly "off"
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Damn check out her hand....
Now we know who has teh ringzzzz in that family. Damn.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Time to say goodbye Old Yeller style
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Nah, we can get some more value out of him this way...
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Still doesn't mean I can't have a shotgun saying my words for me.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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Im sorta sad about dogs right now. I saw that video with that Croatian chick throwing a bucket of puppies in a river.
Please, I beg of you, if you value your sanity do not see that video. I can usually take some bad stuff, but I had trouble with this.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Croatian?
They’ve identified her?
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
4chan, my dear friend. They already got her facebook and myspace.
She took her facebook down, but her myspace is still up. Scum is not even the word…
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. I heard about the cat in the trash, and passed on it, I regret seeing this one...
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Hadn't heard about that one.
Not that I can understand why people abuse animals, but why post the video online? Apparently sociopathy and stupidity go hand-in-hand.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The cat lady video was CCTV....
She didn’t post it, someone else did.
Good on them, then.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
either way, they are both terrible excuses for human beings.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
eh, those cats probably deserved it
from their murderous actions
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking....
That given the opportunity a cat would likely throw you in a dumpster.
actually, cats-drowners get their comeuppance in a way that is
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
but the thing about the puppy throwing video that got me (sorry for describing it)
But this woman was chucking these puppies many many feet away into a river. I wont even describe the puppies…beyond sickening.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
so uh, what prompted her to do this
publicity? her 15 min of (in)fame(y)? boredom? or is she just insane?
by secret defense on Sep 1, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
she devil
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I figured if anyone would do it, it'd be them.
Makes me glad I have no web presence with my real name. If you piss those guys off, you’re screwed.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Look what happend to Jessi Slaughter
Her video was up and less than 24 hrs later they had ALL of her information.
Just shows you, consequences will never be the same.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
And she was just a kid, too.
Image that happening to you, after years of building up a reputation.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
When I saw it I thought she was a kid
But now I heard she is a twenty something. Like 21.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
4chan will do worse
They are people who literally have the time to hunt her down and do unspeakable things to her. Which she deserves.
4chan is a terrible, wonderful thing.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
"May God Have Mercy On Your Soul"
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the sites that makes the internets both awesome and horrible
Part message board, part lynch mob. Here’s their Wikipedia article. Check out some of their past exploits.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well that girl that killed those puppies deserves more than just
getting a virus on her computer.
No doubt
They sort of specialize in identifying people who do terrible things. Problem is, they often do so and then publish their address, phone #s, email addresses, and contact info for their families as well.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
A virus, thats a good one. 4chan will make sure what they give her is something unimaginable.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And to bid one final adieu to probably my favorite AA image of all time.
Upside-down smile Frenchy.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 1, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
If James Dolan owned the Mets..
he’d punish Omar by making him manage the team.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Sep 1, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And giving him an extension
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
All that after he pulls a Steve Phillips, too.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
In any event...
ESPN has a 40 man roster up.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/roster/_/name/nym/new-york-mets
Not sure if there’s any significance to it right now, but in case you’re interested.
They don't have Turner on the DL
I don’t know how accurate that is.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
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"And (s)he walked out of our lives forever..."
- Doc Holliday in “Tombstone”
It’s going to be a little annoying to see him getting postseason at bats for the Rangers, but whatever. Maybe he’ll hit a big home run off C.C. Sabathia to win the pennant for the Rangers, ha ha.
That will only serve to make him more attractive to Omar in the off-season
And he will justify it by pointing out that homer he hit off Sabathia.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Sep 1, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Joaquin Arias?
I’d rather see Joey Arias playing 2B for the Mets.
by MoreDireThanDuffyDyer on Sep 1, 2010 1:18 AM EDT reply actions
I know I'm late but DING-DONG, THE 'COEUR IS DEAD!! THE COEUR IS DEAD!! THE COEUR IS DEAD! WOOOOT!!!
Finally…..Now we won’t have to listen incessantly about his “Cannon Arm” anymore from RF.
BTW, about Duda coming up :
Here he comes
Just a-walkin’ down the street
Singing ’Du-da di-dee didee dum diddy doo!
Free at last, free at last
Thank God we are free of Jeff Francoer at last
"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"
anything we got back is worth it and maybe Arias plays 2B until the end of the season
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
Why not just play Francoeur there.
They’d both suck defensively there and Francoeur may be the superior bat.
Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...
by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 1, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
AMAZING. I can have some hope for this team after all...
let’s sing some Arias…for finally getting rid of that crap in RF…
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
so can we trade Slappy now?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
in the offseason I mean
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
A quote from the recent past from NetsMets4Life:
“I will remember the Legend that is Jeff Francoeur.”
“I will pass it down to my children, and their children, and so on. Like it’s the story of Bigfoot.”
Good times….good times…
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
by CTRefJay on Sep 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wish we could favorite comments as well as rec them.
This is so much win.
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 1, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagines this scene in his head
(Jeff Francour walks out of locker room)
The Mets players cheer
Omar has a tear
Jerry says ‘dang, we just lost our heart in our gut’
end scene
"The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even know existed" -Casey Stengel
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