Phillies 7, Mets 5: Bullpen Brings Kerosene To Five Alarm Fire
by James Kannengieser on Aug 6, 2010 10:29 PM EDT
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Actually, this title doesn't make much sense. More like: Bullpen starts fire in otherwise peaceful forest, spreads it with flamethrowers and shoots down helicopters attempting to dump water on the flames.
The Mets held a slim 2-1 lead entering the bottom of the eighth inning. Eleven Phillie batters, seven hits and six runs later, the Mets trailed 7-2, thanks mostly to the LOLpen. Bobby Parnell endured his second meltdown in a week, failing to record an out while allowing four straight base hits. Here is Captain Fastball's strike zone plot:
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The velocity was there -- Parnell was pumping 99 mph heat. Unfortunately his location was suspect. Even the Phillies' JV lineup is capable of making solid contact against a fireballer throwing meatballs. Pedro Feliciano was also ineffective -- he walked in a run and allowed three baserunners in just one third of an inning. New Phillie Mike Sweeney had two hits in that eighth inning and made a nifty play to rob Carlos Beltran of a hit in the top half of the frame. Sweeney is 37 years old and had played all of 25 innings in the field for the Mariners this season. Naturally he comes to Philly and plays like it's the year 2000.
A gutty effort from Jon Niese (seven innings, four hits, one run, seven strikeouts) went to waste. I say gutty because he walked five and looked shaky at times, but still managed to give his team a great chance to win. Unfortunately, the lineup did nothing against Joe Blanton, he of the 5.86 ERA.
Mike Hessman bashed a three-run homer off J.C. Romero in the ninth inning, his first as a Met, but it was for naught. The image of Romero pointing to the sky as if Hessman's bomb was a can o'corn almost made tuning in worthwhile. Hessman owns you, J.C. Hopefully the big guy gets some more playing time. He's capable in the infield and outfield corners.
David Wright's ninth inning strikeout against Danys Baez was depressing. David took all five pitches he saw, including three fastballs in the heart of the strike zone. Baez has been one of the worst pitchers in baseball this season (5.63 FIP, 1.0 K:BB). I wonder if David went back to the hotel and sat in his room alone in the dark, as Ron Darling discussed tonight.
The Phillies have a 12-game winning streak at home. Johan Santana will try to end the streak tomorrow night at 7:05 against Cole Hamels.
Poem by Howard Megdal
For seven, we believed again thanks to Niese
But eighth-inning 'pen made optimism cease
We're used to healthy Phils beating Mets on the course
Tonight, they got lapped by a one-legged horse
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* The Good Phight Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Jon Niese +39.7% (as pitcher), Josh Thole +6.9%
Big losers: Bobby Parnell -59.4%, Carlos Beltran -11.9%
Teh aw3s0mest play: Josh Thole +11.2%
Teh sux0rest play: Jayson Werth -23.0%
Total pitcher WPA: -27.8%
Total batter WPA: -22.2%
GWRBI!: Placido Polanco
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by BobbyV_Incognito; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
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| 1 | BobbyV_Incognito | 163 |
| 2 | Gina | 142 |
| 3 | MookieTheCat | 133 |
| 4 | deadspy3 | 104 |
| 5 | NetsMets4Life | 88 |
| 6 | HELLYEAHGARYOAK | 81 |
| 7 | aparkermarshall | 67 |
| 8 | fxcarden | 64 |
| 9 | TheKid08 | 61 |
| 10 | JetsMetsNets | 51 |
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Welcome everyone...
…to rebuilding time. Bring up the prospects. Season’s over. Let’s have a good time.
Pelfrey, Niese, Dickey, Santana sure sounds like a great playoff rotation, don't it? Let's Go Mets!
what prospects?
all the ones in AA/AAA probably need to stay there for their own sake.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
All our decent prospects Thole, Niese, Davis are up
everyone else needs more time, we’re stuck with this team like it or not for one more year
by newyorksportsfan on Aug 6, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
you are correct
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Evans and Duda are the only ones that you can argue are ready for the big time.
Kirk, Fmart and even Tejada need some more AAA time.
Oh, til Duda's Day....(To the tune of Camptown Ladies)
Metstown Ginas sing this song, Duda Duda,
Time in minors should be long
Oh til Duda’s day.
I went to Bingo, didn’t know how to win
Duda Duda
Maybe next month Mets will let me in
Oh til Duda’s day
Learn to bat alright
Even iif it takes all day
Next year’s Mets will be a drag
And then til I’m old and gray
by MookieTheCat on Aug 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, the best Mets related song I ever heard...
Was sung on the 7 train by some Mets fan Irishmen after the Ventura Grand Slam single playoff game. Of the few lines I can remember was:
Rocker takes it up the git, doo dah, doo dah
He has AIDS and can’t get rid of it, oh da doo dah day.
Those were good times.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 6, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
A core that includes Ollie Perez, Luis Castillo, and Jason Bay is pretty rotten one
Because I don’t see how they can get rid of those guys.
by secret defense on Aug 6, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bay isnt rotten
you could argue he’s over paid, but so what? he’s good enough to be a starting outfielder in the major leagues. let him get rich, its not my money.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
Don't lump Bay in with that crew...
Pelfrey, Niese, Dickey, Santana sure sounds like a great playoff rotation, don't it? Let's Go Mets!
It's a matter of degree, not of kind.
I think the association is not a bad one, just the Bay issue may need more time to resolve, whereas the other two are resolved.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I put Bay in there
because he’s probably untradable right now, and I don’t consider him a part of the “core” because he hasn’t really done anything yet. I’m not saying he’s as bad as Ollie or Castillo.
by secret defense on Aug 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And then what?
More losing? Rebuilding with these knuckleheads would just be giving away talent and sucking harder
They don't really need to rebuild,
retool yes.
"I want to win now, not 3 years from now. That's my stance." - Kevin Burkhardt
Point is...
We need CHANGE NOW
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Aug 6, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I say keep Cora
Let everyone else go. If you’re gonna be bad, might as well go all out. Let’s challenge the ’62 record for futility.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does anyone care anymore?
Obviously the Wilpons don’t give a shit, so why should we even bother?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
If this were the Brooklyn Dodgers
Everyone would have been fired by now
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
I mean in regards to this season
I just don’t see a point in watching another game. Jerry could fuck up as much as he wants, and he’s still not going to get fired before the end of the season. They’re going to let Cora vest, and they’ll continue to play Francoeur.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
We may not agree on what to do with Pelfrey,
but you nailed it here. Rather than continue to find out what they have with Hessman, Carter, Feliciano, Duda, and Evans, they’ll keep playing a guy who sucks and shouldn’t be anywhere near the team next year.
It's like watching your beautiful, now crack-addicted, ex-girlfriend.
You want to not care, but you stil do. You can’t help it.
I don't, she's a whore
Oh…that was hypothetical
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
omar asked about F-mart and Tejda being kept out of the gm
“I have nothing to say about that well see” what a freakin tard.
Who on here said that???
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
All I can think of seeing this headline is...
But the combination of Gooden’s smoke and Clemen’s fire turned out to be a false alarm….
hows this analogy for the bullpen
you’re playing GTA and youre fleeing the cops with one, maybe 2 stars, then, WHAMMO! you run into another cop car and get 3 stars. then you say screw it, get out of your car and start trying to take out as many cops that show up, and the SWAT team if you survive that long, until they finally take you down under a hail of gunfire.
i dont know how hessman’s homer gets worked in there but that’s at least the bottom of the 8th.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I like the spilled milk analogy for this team
Just when you think you have one area of the milk contained, you look up and another area of the puddle is running wild, address that, and then, oops, another area is running.
Sounds more like the BP oil spill.
Especially since management keeps lying to us about how bad it really is.
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
hessman's homer
is like when you see a pay n spray in iv but can’t get out of the cops line of sight.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
you forgot the part about
having only a baseball bat and a pistol with a few rounds of ammo while you shoot at the police.
by secret defense on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why
you always have a vest at 100 and full ammo when you start a gunfight with the police.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Wagner just blew his 6th save
Admittedly, his defense fucked up for him tonight, but still….Wagner isn’t helping his whole “choker” reputation at the moment.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
who cares?
i ask you.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
you know what hurt the most
I watched this game with a Philly fan, and didn’t ever feel angry, offended, or in any way frustrated even when we went into the 8th with a lead and lost it. I’ve given up on being frustrated, and if I’m not angry anymore its a bad sign for the team.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 6, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions
It's hard to get upset when a loss is inconsequential for the team at this point
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
for most games i'd agree
but philly and atlanta should still make me mad, even if we’re 100 games out. I just honestly didn’t give a shit, and I think its the first time I’ve ever felt like that, even in seasons where we’ve been totally awful.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 7, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point,
if they win, that’s cool. And if they lose, whatever. It’s a sad way to be a fan really.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
agreed
sadly, I’d rather them lose and hope for a high draft pick come 2011. bad me! bad me!…heh
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
F-Mart and Tejada were late scratches today
But apparently they stayed in the dugout for the entire game. I wouldnt think much of it, but apparently Omar’s response was “I’ve got nothing to say about that. We’ll see.”
Please god dont be trading them. I cant really think of any other reason for it. Omar would have to DFA his beloved Cora or Castillo to make room for Tejada, and I doubt he decided to drop Failcouer or Ollie either.
I was hoping they were getting promoted
But they wouldn’t bother sitting in the dugout if they were.
The Nationals wouldn't trade Dunn for those two
so if it is a trade, which I don’t think it is, I doubt it’d be for Dunn
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Right now, I'd guess it's Cora and Francoeur getting DFA
I really doubt the Wilpons would allow Omar to make that kind of trade now, when they wouldn’t do so at the deadline.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
That would be the ideal scenario
But it seems incredibly unlikely given the track record of this front office.
Yeah, in my dreams
but that is not going to happen.
They have to know some scalps have to be taken.
It’s should be Jerry, but they have to at least give us some of the scrub players.
I can
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Jason Bay (as a prospect)
All over again?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they are sweetener to dump Ollie and Castillo?
Wilpon would definately allow for that to shed some payroll. I don’t see anyway that they are traded for a rental player where we would be taking on money.
They only other thing I would think is that they might be coming up…
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but Jerry abuses the privilege.
Reason to worry
From the Buffalo News, http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/article95318.ece
“This was an odd game even before it began. Ten minutes before the first pitch, the Bisons changed the lineup, yanking regular starters Fernando Martinez and Ruben Tejada. Manager Ken Oberkfell said he was following orders, presumably from the parent Mets club. He said neither player was nursing an injury.”
From the surface, it looks like a trade, no reason to sit someone and leave them in the dugout for the whole game if you were calling them up.
by George_Sloan on Aug 7, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This is weird.
It seems you might be right, but who knows. I bet they get Mike Jacobs back.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Maybe they just didnt want them to get hurt before the big callup?
Maybe? MAYBE?
Would these players clear waivers is the question
If they were traded, both Fmart and Tejada would need to clear waivers or be traded to the team that claimed them. It really looks like a trade to me, maybe even for Dunn or someone of that stature. I just am not sure that either Fmart or Tejada would clear waivers or make it as high as the Nats in the pecking order. They are both cheap and young, I would think that the Pirates, Cubs or Astros would grab them. It still feels like a trade to me, but it could be a callup, of it could be Omar playing bluff with someone.
Waivers needed for anyone on the 40 man roster
“Over the next month, deals involving players on 40-man rosters cannot be made unless the players have cleared waivers. A player exposed to waivers can be claimed by any team and — if there are multiple claims — the player would be offered to the team with the lesser record.”
I checked, both FMart & Tejeda are on the Mets 40 man roster.
why trade for Dunn? Does he really help now?
(it’s a moot point, as it wasn’t a trade, but what’s would’ve been the point?)
they could be traded as ptbnl
though it wouldn’t make much sense for them to stop playing until the end of the season either
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Occasional lurker, first time poster
Well they scored the most runs in a game this week And…yeah that’s about it.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
Bobby needs to wake up
he will turn out like that fatso on the Yanks.
you mean Mike Francesa?
hahaha. sorry, had to put that in.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Two word
WE … SUCK
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
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"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
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"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Bet you're happy about Isiah's return...
Bey you laugh about the fact that he even f***ed that up. The NBA is pissed about it. This guy can’t do anything right.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Give thanks for the Knicks
At least we didn’t re-hire Steve Phillips to ‘consult’ on personnel moves
May you be locked in a battle of wits against Jerry Manuel.
by BobbyV_Incognito on Aug 7, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Observation.
The Orioles are 4-0 under Buck Showalter. They now have 36 wins total. That is all.
The Orioles might not be 4-0
Mets would be the same.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point
I’d welcome deportation to high in the himalayas.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, Duda with another homer tonight
If they’re promoting FMart, it’s an odd move considering his performance.
Hmm
.299/.394/.589/.980 line in 331 ABs for Duda, a lefty corner OF
.256/.321/.458/.779 line in 262 ABs for FMart, a lefty corner OF
We need a replacement for Frenchy's out making
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Well then it was a mistake
To include Carlos Gomez in the Santana trade.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Sad, they day...
I would agree with this comment. But today is not that day. The last thing the Mets need now is a “fast” guy with an OBP under .300. We have just about enough of them, thank you very much. Sad anyway though, that I even made the effort to check Gomez’ stats before responding.
But he'd make outs faster
And allow us to get on with our lives that much sooner.
I think it was obviously a big coup to include a raw prospect in the bag of busted toys they shipped out for Santana, but when we will ever see another bat sniffer?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahhahahahaha.
So would not being Mets fans. For me at least, not gonna happen. As for terminology, I have no idea what a bat sniffer is, but it sounds not right.
That was his trademark quirk
He sniffed his bat on his way up to the plate.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I learn something new every day....
Including things I might have been better off not knowing.
Imagine the fun we could have with Duda...
Do a Google images search for “Lucas”
Adam Rubin just tweeted this
“Have some leads on the Fernando Martinez, Ruben Tejada mystery. Check blog within hour for more.”
Please don’t be stupid trade, please don’t be stupid trade
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
Wouldn't they have to clear waivers to be traded
because they’re on the 40 man?
If we're trading with a bottom team (most likely)
It’s common courtesy for teams not contending not to block waiver trades. Quid quo pro so they don’t get their own trades blocked.
Maybe we're trading them for black uniforms...
Seems to be the key to success, per Rubin.
Millwood or Bust?
Sounds about right.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 7, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions
The Win Probability Chart for today's game....
Looks like an algorythmic inverse equivalent of the season’s fan confidence chart. Just sayin’ that this makes sense.
Enrique Rojas says FMart might get traded to Seattle...
All I can say is
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
For who?
I can’t think of anyone worthwhile they have. And I’m more afraid of any dealings between Omar and Jack Z.
Probably Felix Lopez (INF) or RP (David Aardsma/Brandon League)
Would be my guess.
Chone Figgins?
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Rubin says the same
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5444427
Who does Seattle have that we could possibly want? I can only hope we’re trading for another prospect.
I don't see how
Fernando could pass through waivers for the entire NL to reach Seattle.
It doesn’t make sense.
If it's like FMart and Castillo for Figgins, I think I'll lose my mind
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I'll kill someone if it's anyone other than Felix Hernandez
Given the odds of that happening, I think it’s safe to say I’ll be murdering someone tomorrow.
If you do that, trade Ollie also.
At least get rid of all your bad contracts for a good—but declining—prospect.
Nothing can get by him; especially in a small room: Mike Francessa
by GenJackRipper on Aug 7, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ljrehewgflsdhds
IM DYING OMAR. YOU’RE KILLING ME. WHY WOULD YOU COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I don't mind trading Martinez and Tejada,
I just don’t want Minaya trading Martinez and Tejada since I can’t see him getting value for them. They’re both guys we’d be selling low on, so unless they’re being moved for comparable prospects it doesn’t make sense, as they won’t bring in much of a major league ready ballplayer.
You don't mind the best case....
Masquerading as the worst case. Wthat happens when the true brillig and the slithy toves come into play?
by MookieTheCat on Aug 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Btw, nice work tonight by Manuel, with more random matchups for Feliciano,
and presumably just shrugging will Parnell put the game out of reach.
It's at the point where it's comical
How many ways can these clowns blow games.
First of all, I can’t even blame the pen for this. We scored 2 runs off Joe Blanton. You don’t deserve to win when you do that. Our offense sucks up and down. Even our good players suck. Can someone step up and go 4 for 4 or 4 for 5? Sometimes, players do that. The fact that Castillo and Frenchy continue to get rewarded for the little shit they do is hilarious.
This is a hilariously bad team, we are lucky to be 1 game under .500. I think Hessman should possibly play every day for this team. Platoon him and carter in left and we’d have a better team. Can Carlos Beltran not hit a ground ball like once? I know he’s great and will find it someday, but it probably won’t be this year, he is so fucking terrible on both sides of the ball. He’s been taken over by a cyborg or something. I’m sorry, just venting, but there’s so much frustration. Why was Wright playing shortstop vs. Polanco in the second? A soft grounder down the line is a double because of our positioning? Who is making that decision? I just have so much hate for Jerry, Omar and the Wilpons that I cannot take it anymore. Fuck these motherfucking fucks and the Wilpons that fucked them. Please flag and ban me, because it would be great to not worry about these assnecks for awhile. Go Cyclones.
too sad and tired to read all the above comments...
so maybe it was already said, but…
Zero walks? Damn, guys. Damn.
batting helmets. batting titles. obp.
yeah he just throws it right down the pipe
you either hit it a mile, or he gets lucky and it goes to someone.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Aug 7, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez better not be traded for Figgins
Only was he is traded to Seattle would hopefully be for Felix. That’s the answer our rotation needs. If that was possible to pull off and Minaya did that I would be amazed. How about a dream scenario of Martinez and Tejada for Felix and Ackley? OMG, i might just jizz in my pants. But this is a really good move so I can’t really expect this to happen.
fmart and tejada wouldnt land ackley
let alone ackley AND felix. you sir need to stop with paint huffing
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
Piggyback trade
Along with Felix, we then get rid of Beltran to the Sawx or Rays for players or prospects. I like the Beltran, Flores, cash for Upton and Wade Davis deal. Our filthy team is then complete. Rotation of Felix, Santana, Pelf, Niese, Davis. How clutch and amazing would it be to have Felix in our rotation. And our lineup of Reyes, Pagan, Wright, Davis, Bay, Upton, Thole, Ackley. Oh yea baby. Championship 2011 here we come.
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by anonymous on Aug 7, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I one called this number for a good time...
Then again, I once called 718 507 TIXX for the same reason.
by MookieTheCat on Aug 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
why in the world do you think any of these teams would do this deals?
they’d laugh you off the phone. It would have to be like Martinez, Ike, Tejada, Meija, Kirk and like 10% of the franchise just to get Felix….or they’d demand something like a Jose for Felix swap.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
all those prospects, niese and reyes and they might do it
I like Ike, I hate Jerry
so I guess Frenchy
“the utmost great presence” is going to be the Mess’ RF for years to come? gah. how sad.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
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