Mets 4, Braves 2: All Your Braves Are Belong To Us
The Mets salvaged a sliver of dignity in Atlanta tonight, taking game four of the series after dropping the first three. This was a strangely satisfying win. I haven't felt this into a game for several months. Maybe it was the sight of Chipper Jones on SNY, smirking his way through a Kevin Burkhardt interview. Maybe it's that incessant tomahawk chop blaring on my teevee set. Regardless, I'll take it, even if it hurts my dream of the Phillies not making the playoffs.
Johan Santana was strong through five innings but left the game with a strained pectoral muscle. No word yet how severe the injury is, but he was tossing mid 80's fastballs shortly before being removed. David Wright was the batting hero against starter Tim Hudson, going 2-for-3 with a home run and a walk. David touched 'em all, and he deserved it. Carlos Beltran notched a Little League home run (copyright Howard Megdal, see poem below), hitting a triple and advancing home on Omar Infante's throwing error in the first inning. Hisanori Takahashi shut the door in the ninth, inducing a Melky Cabrera groundout to end it.
Some random game notes:
- The spindly Joaquin Arias nubbed an RBI infield single in the first inning, his first base knock as a Met. Even more notable, it came with the bases loaded. He was acquired. He was clutch. He is counted.
- Lucas Duda went 0-for-5 and is now 0-for-8 to start his Mets career. No bother, Darryl Strawberry was 0-for-11 before recording his first MLB base hit.
- Beltran led off the top of the third inning. Here is a brief rundown of the action on the field and the booth during the at-bat. Thank you GKR:
Keith: "Cabrera's not a center fielder. He doesn't run well enough to be a center fielder. He's a corner outfielder in my estimation."
Beltran hits a soft liner to center field
Melky makes a nice catch
Gary: "So Melky makes liars out of all of us."
Ron: "He giveth and he taketh away."
Keith: "Is that Biblical?"
(For the record, I agree with Keith's assessment -- Melky is not a good center fielder. Hmm, a corner outfielder with a poor bat. Sounds like the Mets might be interested.) - Ron Darling was the trivia answer on the Braves broadcast:
- Pedro Feliciano faced Matt Diaz in the seventh inning with no outs and a runner on first. It gave me flashbacks to, well, Feliciano vs Diaz. Luckily this round went to Pedro, as Diaz hit a soft liner to Ike Davis, who stepped on first base, completing the double play.
The Mets are now 12 games back of the NL East leading Braves and 10 games behind the Wild Card leading Philth. A weekend series at Wrigley Field begins Friday afternoon at 2:20. R.A. Dickey faces struggling Cubs right Randy Wells.
Poem by Howard Megdal
Santana gets pec'd
Beltran's Little League home run
Gets Mets within 12!
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Talking Chop Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Johan Santana +18.0% (as pitcher), David Wright +15.3%
Big losers: Henry Blanco -11.5%, Luis Castillo -8.2%
Teh aw3s0mest play: David Wright solo home run +13.7%
Teh sux0rest play: Brian McCann solo home run -11.0%
Total pitcher WPA: +37.9%
Total batter WPA: +12.1%
GWRBI!: David Wright
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by aparkermarshall; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | aparkermarshall | 92 |
| 2 | Gina | 78 |
| 3 | deadspy3 | 76 |
| 4 | itsmetsforme | 73 |
| 5 | James Kannengieser | 60 |
| 6 | the caveman | 59 |
| 7 | jdon | 56 |
| 8 | JetsMetsNets | 50 |
| 9 | TheKid08 | 47 |
| 10 | Syler | 45 |
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No mention in the recap...
Of Arias getting a hit with the bases loaded?
"Full recap to follow"
Patience. A-rye-ass will get his due.
by James Kannengieser on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He is now my most favorite #1 super-Met.
And will continue to be until someone else gets a hit with the bases loaded. You have no idea how strongly I feel about this.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
On the plus side, I have seen a trailer for a new film
which marks a radical departure from Drew Barrymore's career so far...
What?
It’s good and not Adam Sandler-related?
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh good...
Glad to see she’s branching out.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
if E.T. isn't in it
i don’t care
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"I'll be flippin pancakes
while people are punching their selves in the face!"
Great line from The Situation. I’m getting into it now.
This is hilarious
I love how he got that girl to wait like 15 minutes on the bed while he ate a plate of pasta and had a ciggie
You mean inbred?
Or just the kind of girl you find in small provincial clubs the world over?
Oh yeah, you’re British. can you explain this to me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMvj1piK58
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, no I just meant her look
That song is… well, I don’t know. Since Arctic Monkeys I suppose Sheffield accents have become trendy. Donk must just be that beat sound, but I’ve never heard it. Maybe the whole country has changed since I’ve been away.
I just put in on my FB...
I’m friends with some old DJs/MCs from London so maybe I’ll get some input. I can’t decide whether I think it’s brilliant or awful.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah....
He’s fairly likeable and seems generally intelligent. They needed a token is my guess.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
totally out of place how?
he’s clearly the most normal one. Apparently he graduated cum laude from the college of Staten Island.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
THere was an ad for this show
where some skinny hipster white boy lives with a notorious rapper and it’s all filmed. Maybe I got the name wrong.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
You notice they wrote the infamous letter in all caps? So damn appropriate.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i told you the show is epic
it’s pretty much the only tv show I watch every week first showing.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I think I'm hooked now.
The really mouthy aggressive girl is getting on my nerves. But I love the SItuation’s face, mugging so much whenever anything is going on. What a clown.
which really mouthy aggressive one?
the one in the beige dress that got into a fight? That’s J-wow, she’s my favorite. She hangs out with people with names like J-420.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Yeah...
The Terminator model J-420 came back from the future…and forgot what it was supposed to do. So it watched TV.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
CSI is a pretty easy school.
Hell, if you know the right people and take the right professors, you could spend 4 years taking nothing but standardized department tests and buy the answers.
douchelords i hated/fought at the boardwalk
These people are them…rage
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Sep 2, 2010 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You fought on the Boardwalk?
Are you sure you’re not one of them?
Sorry, had to. This is like saying, “I hate birds because they are warm blooded.”
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If we win, the Phillies hhave a better chance of making it. If we lose, then vice-versa
Match-22
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THIS!!!
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 2, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah me too.
Oh wait, I can’t. F’n Keys.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys you notice that we start winning when
an Oil spill arises??
Yup another Rig exploded guess we gonna get some WINS
by HELLYEAHGARYOAK on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Yep. Too much regulation of that industry
The government has to get off the backs of the oil industry. They know what’s best. The free market – and God – are the best way to deal with U.S. coastal oil wells. Drill, drill, drill! Ooops, I got it wrong, dagnabit. It’s “Drill, BABY, drill.”
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Yeah, I'm sympathetic to your position here...
But as someone who likes to argue politics as much as humanly possibly and has to bite my tongue (or change my metaphors) on here a lot, this is probably not the right place.
Now if we want to talk about how this is killing the marlins, that we can all agree is probably a good topic, and a wrong fish to kill. In sum, I blame Nyjer Morgan for this.
The 2010 Mets since June....
The Ronnie of the baseball world. Stock dropping.
Gary Apple:
‘Clubhouse still close right now with a meeting, so we’ll bring it to you as soon as that’s over’.
Hmmmm…..
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like a good night to stay up and wait for news....
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hes an epic gernade
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Sep 2, 2010 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Jerry thought ‘pec strain’ was Johan’s arm. Jay had to tell him it’s his chest.
Jerry says: ‘Well, I don’t know the anatomy that well’.
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
once again
I.F.F. president
Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 2, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Crickey
that is dumb.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
"I don't know the anatomy that well"
“get ready for the LAZER SHOW”
“Adam he lobby”
“I want to win now, not…”
what else we got for the bounty of 2010? it’s late and i’m old.
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
duh!
thats #1
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
They seriously need to bring that little girl back...
She was a season highlight. That call was awesome.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
that was literally the only uplifting moment of the year
since they didn’t televise/have a celebration when French went to Texas
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I want her to do colour
while that little kid who won a competition maybe last year (?) does play by play. Do you remember? Gary had to stop him after he called out Castillo for being a slap hitter.
I missed the last year one...
That would be great. Mini-GKR in the house.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, how could I forget
All that talk about sandwiches, hot dog buns and other picnic-related items! It became clear that the stint, while memorable, was somewhat of a bust. (I think his last name was Singh)
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Wait,
the “kid caster” called out Slappy for slapping? Fo realz?
Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
I really hate Jerry.
Well, as I remember it
He had been calling for an inning, then he said, sounding a bit sarcastic, “Castillo SLAPS one into centre field”, and almost straight away Gary said that’s all they had time for!
"We have to at some point push a run across in that particular ballgame in this park late."
- Jerry
by James Kannengieser on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
o jeez how could i forget this package
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There will be a quotes thread
This all needs to be documented. For future generations.
by James Kannengieser on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
We should do the Mets Community Bad Quotes List...
I bet it would go through more iterations than that prospect one.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
will there be future generations?
sigh
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 3, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
What was the John Maine quote?
Where he threw him under the bus. That one HAS to be on the list.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was Dan Warthen
when he said Maine’s a habitual liar about his health
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
We have to include Warthen and Omar in this...
And Hojo. All must be preserved for history.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that's poor is old but should be there
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 3, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Troll

Ryan Miller was the true MVP.
I really hate Jerry.
by Jsz on Sep 2, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any idea what this closed door meeting in the clubhouse is all about?
Has it ended? I am curious. And curiosity is well, not so good for cats.
First question to Jerry
during his interview was something about that meeting. He just made a joke about it, implying the door being closed longer was no big deal.
Kind of unusual, since it’s ‘get out of town’ night for them….
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 2, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Reporter should have followed with...
“Too bad you didn’t get fired.”
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I have an idea about that meeting
With 16 hours left to spare before the game vs. CHC begins, a bus ride would take 12 hours to get there (because airplanes don’t fly after midnight), so maybe since it was a bit of a crisis situation, they chose someone who will not play tomorrow to drive the team bus
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I would make a bet
They said well we need to go 25-1 over the next 6 to get back in so here is what we are doing over the next few days to do it.
Because we know after a few days Jerry will go back to Castillo batting 2nd
I hope that they'll swap Evans and Hessman.
Jerry pinch hitting with Thole but then swapping in Hessman because of a lefty pitcher makes me cringe.
yeah
連邦政府軍のご協力により、君達の基地は、全てCATSがいただいた。
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
...

Consequences will never be the same.
by NetsMets4Life on Sep 2, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And that they take off every zig
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 2, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
FOR GREAT JUSTICE
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
I didn't have to think about that one...
One look and I knew.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
By coincidence
Tonight I’ve been following a long, involved blog discussion about appropriate toilet signs in the trans-era. Very interesting but brings the worst out in people.
Having worked in what was at the time NYC's largest techno nightclub....
I will say this: there is no way to figure it out. Stalls with locks, and ont caring if a she-male sees your dong while you use the urinal, is pretty much the only solution. It also is a good way to spot trannies, which comes in handy later in life when you have to tell who they are.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i have never had to "tell who they are"--when does that situation "arise"
is something wrong with me?
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 2, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we hang out in different places...
It was a VERY useful skill for me for a number of my younger years.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You may; need to get out more,
or get yourself into more interesting situations when you do go out, so that you can use your AA-acquired like skills to advantage.
As for the bathroom thing, any distinctions seem… unnecessary.
I wonder if Duda knows that after his second Ohfer he’s got about four more PAs left in his Mets’ career.
On that blog
the consensus among the ’realists’* was to have unisex bathrooms but small segregated cubicles for those who want them. Sounds fair to me, though implementation is obvs. expensive.
*because lots of people of the opinion that gender is a completely false construct etc want to simply get rid of the signs.
Most bars in NYC have done this for a while...
At least the downtown ones. I always assumed that the rationale involved both this and the ability to use drugs of one form or another with minimal fear of someone walking in.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
eh that sounds dangerous
like all bathrooms unisex? in clubs with drunk people?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Twilo did it 15 years ago....
With things a lot more mood-altering than alcohol being prevalent. There were a ton of stalls for girls and they made sure you could not peep through cracks etc. There never was a problem, so far as I am aware. Then again, there usually was a bouncer the size of a triceratops in there.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
This is a big concern, but that would be part of the rationale of having optional M and F toilets. Plus, with one big bathroom, there would be some sense of self policing I suppose.
Eh...I think intertia is a powerful force....
I kind of dug the unisex bathroom. You could meet girls while they applied their make-up. Once a few gay guys, about 5 girls, and me actually choreographed and performed a very nice version of Singing in the Rain in there. Oddly, given the inclusion of gay guys, I had the Gene Kelly part (I was a really good dancer back then). It was a good time.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Best part...
Was when I left the bathroom and returned to my friends, and they asked me why I was gone for 20 minutes, all I could say was “I just had the BEST time in the bathroom.” I got some quizzical looks.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
did you sarcastically learn to dance
to make fun of the gay guys down the street, like Mark Wahlberg in the Other Guys?
2009 Did Not Happen
Nope...
Used to be a competitive breakdancer. Learned martial arts and a lot of 30s-40s eradance (Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly etc.) in that effort.
It doesn't seem to awesome now...
What with years of twisting having taken a toll on my back and leaving me on the couch at present.
welcome to colorado Manny Delcarmen
.1 IP 4H 4R
Dear MTV,
If you want to get socially responsible, a zombie/tobacco comparison should be pretty damn far down your list. Kthxbai!
Everyone Who Isn’t an Idiot.
The importance of punctuation...
This is you.
I like the guys. [Jose] Reyes, [David] Wright, [Carlos] Beltran, [Johan] Santana has had a great year, just such hard luck
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
means even tennis players want Jerry gone
And Blake is basically saying he can’t go thru anymore losing or he’s switching sides.
The problem with that is that if he thinks Beltran is having a good year...
He hasn’t watched too many games.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that it should have been...
I like the guys: [Jose] Reyes, [David] Wright, [Carlos] Beltran. [Johan] Santana has had a great year, just such hard luck. He has no run support. I think it might be time for a change.
That at least makes it English.
And now we know how dumb Jerry really is
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Mets-Manuel-seeks-assurance-he-ll-be-back?urn=mlb-266850
Does he really think he will be back next yr?
Ugh....
This needs to be a fanshot. Go for it.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
eh Tedquarters covered this earlier
it was really blown out or proportion by the post and now subsequent articles
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
that's a joke, right?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Tell the truth:
Would you really be all that surprised if Manuel comes back?
LOL IS ANYONE WATCHING THIS UTAH PITT GAME
it’s 24-21, Pittsburgh in the red zone with time about to expire trying for a field goal to tie it up. He makes the field goal Pittsburgh celebrates but then they find out Utah’s coach called a tme out so he had to retry. So he sets up again, and this time yanks it left, Utah’s players start celebrating and running off the field…except Utah’s coach had called another time out so the miss didn’t count…so he does it one more time and makes it and now it’s going to OT>
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
You officially like sports a little too much...
Seriously, you should major in journalism or something (what is your major anyway?) You could be the next Beadle, except more knowledgable and argumentative.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
my majors econ
and yeah I love cfb and the nfl about 1000000x more than baseball. I literally watch every game that’s on tv. I pretty much accomplish nothing on Saturdays/Sundays during the fall.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
To explain...
The first comment here takes my prize for the best youtube comment ever but I only understand about 10% of it.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
according to wikipedia
it sounds like a mix of wiggers and hipsters
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
There are some things you just need a Brit to explain...
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The hipsters thing is off base because chavs are thought to have terrible taste whereas (in the UK at least) hipsters are all style and no substance.
really?
here hipsters have terrible taste. they dress like they’re homeless. except they pay hundreds of dollars to look homeless.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
OK well taste is subjective
and that’s kind of true here, but they still get on magazine covers for being trendsetters and so on. They’re probably better regarded than in the US (where hipster seems to be a full on insult)
yeah I'm not sure they get magazine covers here
they’re mostly mocked.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I don't know too much about hipster
but from this music description they sound awesome
http://yourscenesucks.com/

by secret defense on Sep 3, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
damn
maybe it’s different up north, but yeah down here some of that style is broad, usually mixed when like more “urban” or “preppy” styles but people who dress exclusively like that are definitely a minority.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Alarmingly
Scrolling through the other scenesters on that site, my entire wardrobe appears to be a fusion of the post-rock guy and the “prehistoric emo” one, despite the fact that I don’t think I have ever (knowingly) listened to any emo)
well, I think you can do a lot worse than those two scenesters
for example, the Wicked Juggalo
I’m so glad I don’t live in Illinois.
by secret defense on Sep 3, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume everyone has seen...
This. NSFW if folks can see the screen.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 3, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
That reminds me of a truly great comedy series about Hoxton trendies in London called Nathan Barley. It’s actually pretty depressing because it’s so accurate. First bit here, I think it’s all on YouTube.
Are those what we used to call "fuck me" shoes, or does that charming phrase
only apply to shoes without backs?
Adjective from chav
It’s controversial to some extent because it’s seen as very class-ist, though in the northeast it has a different derivation (charva, which is less snobby). It’s basically someone who is working class, a bit bling, not too bright, likes alloy wheels and tattoos. More or less if Jersey Shore were British they would be called chavs. It’s usually pejorative but (as you can see) there’s some attempt to ‘reclaim’ it.
You've probably seen this
but this is the opposite of a chav and precisely the kind of person who would use the word
Ah I C....
Nice to see that Monty Python still resonates.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 3, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
So you're familiar with the law of diminishing returns right?
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol yeah
except there’s never enough football to me. I even stay up for Hawaii games.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
Maybe you should go to law school...
And you should go in LA. I have a feeling you’d make a good agent, except that type of job would cut into your sports watching time a lot.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 2, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
no SC doesn't buy folks houses anymore
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
They eventually got the
W in OT. I hate the “ice the kicker” routine.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Everytime I see any ESPN, MLB or WFAN BS
I feel sad, because I used to depend on these sources for my rating of players and understanding of who were the best pitchers and batters.
Example: (most updated stats from Fangraphs, don’t think include today)
CC Sabathia, 194.2 IP, 7.40 K/9, 2.62 BB/9, 3.37 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 3.7 WAR
Johan Santana, 194.0 IP, 6.54 K/9, 2.51 BB/9, 3.02 ERA, 3.52 FIP, 3.7 WAR
Both of these guys have had similar performance this year, even through all the tough stretches that Johan has had. Johan looks a bit better, but CC pitches in a tougher division offensively. Both have had the same impact which can bee seen through their WAR, and even similar longevity into games though Sabathia’s is hyped the most and considered a shutdown ace. This is where the uniforms that these guys wear come into play. Because Sabathia pitches in the Bronx, he has 138 runs of support, meanwhile Johan only has 67. Sabathia owns a nice Cy Young candidate 19-5 record, and Johan is 11-9 with not even half of the run support.
Really the way that the media hypes some guys is incredibly annoying. An good guy on a good team can look like incredible, and Cy Young on a bad team could look like J.J. Trujillo. Wins-losses have no value for pitchers and I really wish that they could be forgotten when it comes to evaluating a pitcher’s performance. CC has been good, but have him and Johan switch teams and Johan may be just as worthy of an award.
by Angel Muñoz on Sep 3, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If Sabathia gets
the AL Cy Young award this year, they should take away the voting privileges of the writers who vote for the award.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Because it's late and I got nothin' to do
AL Cy Young, right now:
1. Felix
2. Lee
3. Liriano
4. Weaver
5. Price
NL Cy
1. Halladay
2. Wainwright
3. Ubaldo
4. Johnson
5. Hudson
by James Kannengieser on Sep 3, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I actually completely forgot about Cliff Lee
he’s walked 12 batters. that doesn’t even make sense.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
I always think it's a typo
13.42 K/BB, what
by James Kannengieser on Sep 3, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It's close, for sure
Felix ERA/FIP/tERA: 2.38/3.00/2.92
Lee ERA/FIP/tERA: 3.37/2.63/2.70
Depends how heavily DIPS is weighed vs RA. Felix’s GB% compensates a bit for the K/BB lagging. Plus Felix has 27 more innings pitched at this point.
by James Kannengieser on Sep 3, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The Daily News--which I used to love--
Seems to repeat it’s reporting of the Central Park jogger guys in sports all the time. (Subtext: they were later all cleared when someone else admitted to the attack).
by MookieTheCat on Sep 3, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
if you want to talk about Cy Young
Santanas has more, and he should have had another one except the idiot writers who voted for fucking Bartolo Colon and his WINZZZ.
by secret defense on Sep 3, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Michael Kay is as stupid as Rob Dibble
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Michael Kay is intolerable
I listened to his show last week for the first time, and was blown away. He actually makes Francesca seem likable and humble in comparison.
If Arias is a major league ss
than damnit, we can all be major league shortstops. That was some beer league softball play out of him tonight. Put him at 2b if you’re gonna play him, please…
::sigh: looks like you were right Gina, Moronuel is going to over use his new
Alex Cora (Arias).
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Arias got a hit with the bases loaded tonight...
He is special #A-1 super great Mets starpower man in my book. I’m buying my jersey tonight.

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