Phillies 3, Mets 2: I Wish This Game Had Been More Interesting

It was one frightfully dull game. It was so dull that the most noteworthy play of the game was a slide into second base. Thnkfully, it was quick: the game lasted just a little over two hours. But what made the whole thing worse was that it looked like the Phillies fans at Citizens' Bank Park were having such a wonderful time despite the boredom, in part because they won, but also because results still mean something to them. I remember how that feels, and I miss it. Maybe tomorrow I’ll try pretending the game still matters. Or maybe I’ll just cut my losses and take a nap instead.
Anyway, the game got off to a rocky start on the first pitch, when R.A. Dickey served up a long ball to all-round good guy Shane Victorino. Right from the get-go the game felt out of reach. It was obvious that Dickey didn’t have his best stuff: he was missing high often early, though he settled down a little in that regard later on. After giving up the homer to Victorino, Dickey promptly allowed a single to Placido Polanco and walked Chase Utley. Neither man scored, but it just set the tone for Dickey’s outing. A second run came home in the second, when Wilson Valdez, that paragon of offensive fortitude, singled past a diving Jose Reyes and advanced to second on Joe Blanton’s sacrifice bunt. Victorino came back to the plate and doubled to left, plating Valdez. Three cheers for Shane!
The Mets briefly restored a pang of hope in the fourth when Ike Davis singled—Ike was a bright spot once again, collecting two singles and a double we’ll touch upon later—and Angel Pagan hit a no-doubt-about-it homer to deep right, tying the game at two.
The problem: that was pretty much it for the rest of the game. The lineup did zilch against Blanton, who allowed just the two runs over seven innings, walking one and striking out six. Most impressive: he needed only 74 pitches to complete those seven innings. Mets hitters were swinging often and early, and it really played right into Charlie Manuel’s sweaty palms; he got to save both his bullpen and his starter’s arm. The Phils took the lead again in the bottom half of the fourth, when Carlos Ruiz singled home Raul Ibanez, putting Philadelphia up 3-2.
The fifth inning provided the game’s only real controversy, when Chase Utley slid hard into second baseman Ruben Tejada to break up a double play. In my opinion, the slide was not dirty: he kept his spikes down and clearly wasn’t trying to hurt anyone. It was late and pretty unnecessary from a team that needs a healthy Utley more than a victory tonight. What it did cause, however, was an obsession in the booth as to whether the Mets needed to—and would—retaliate. But they never found the opportunity to return the favor to Utley at second, and Pedro Feliciano didn’t give Utley any chin music when he strode to the plate for the final time. For the most part, the slide and its aftermath was a non-event.
The game got a little more interesting the top of the ninth, when the Mets made a valiant effort to tie the game. Ike Davis hit a one-out double off the W.B. Mason sign in left—a ball Gary Cohen incorrectly called a home run initially—and advanced to third on a sac fly by Pagan. Josh Thole walked, and Jerry Manuel shockingly didn’t let Joaquin Arias bat for himself with the winning run 90 feet away. Instead, he sent Jesus Feliciano to the plate, who quickly hit a comebacker to Brad Lidge to end the game.
But it didn’t end the game, because Josh Thole had called time so he could be taken out for pinch-runner Luis Castillo. Charlie Manuel then screamed his head off at the umps for a few minutes then, apparently forgetting that Jesus Feliciano isn’t very good. Feliciano struck out two pitches later. The loss was the Mets’ sixth straight, and the win the Phillies’ eleventh straight.
I’m desperately hoping for something a little more lively tomorrow. In fact, l’m going to try to imagine ways in which the Mets can retaliate against Utley. Dillon Gee, tomorrow’s starter, isn’t exactly a flamethrower, so a dirty play at second may be the way to go. So I’ll suggest the Mets punt defense (hell, punt offense, too) and just play their eight largest players. I’d like to see a lineup like this:
| Num | Player | Pos |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Lucas Duda | LF |
| 2 | Chris Carter | RF |
| 3 | Mike Hessman | 3B |
| 4 | Ike Davis | 1B |
| 5 | Henry Blanco | C |
| 6 | R.A. Dickey | 2B |
| 7 | Dillon Gee | P |
| 8 | Mike Pelfrey | SS |
| 9 | Oliver Perez | CF |
Gotta get the largest guys in there, and Duda’s the largest, so bat him leadoff to get him the most opportunities to reach second. R.A. Dickey gets the nod so he gets the chance to stand up for the guy who took a bruise while he was on the mound. And Oliver Perez can serve as a last-resort kamikaze option. Or maybe a first-resort kamikaze option. I want to see guys sliding into second on home run trots, stretching infield hits into doubles. Ruben Tejada requires vengeance!
Poem by Howard Megdal
The standings change, the games stay static
Phils win it close, but win's emphatic
Utley's aggressive approach to second base
On a date, would have gotten him a slapped face
Or brushed back by a self-respecting team
But with Mets, for revenge, all we can do is dream
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* The Good Phight Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Ike Davis, +13.7% WPA, Elmer Dessens, +4.7% WPA
Big losers: Jesus Feliciano, -16.8% WPA, R.A. Dickey, -3.7% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Angel Pagan two-run home run in the fourth, +20.7% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Jesus Feliciano's strikeout to end the game, -16.8% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: +4.3% WPA
Total batter WPA: -54.3% WPA
GWRBI!: Carlos Ruiz
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by MookieTheCat; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | MookieTheCat | 103 |
| 2 | Spike Davis | 96 |
| 3 | jdon | 60 |
| 4 | fxcarden | 56 |
| 5 | aparkermarshall | 47 |
| 6 | Gina | 43 |
| 7 | NYC Russ | 33 |
| 8 | Michkin | 26 |
| 9 | Syler | 25 |
| 10 | packard37 | 21 |
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Nats are winning 7-1 over Atlanta
Hey Mets, you know what they’re doing…..THEY’RE PLAYING SPOILERS!! PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRY IT SOME TIME YOU FUCKS.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Agee but too bad
for them that’s the only time they play
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I'll never forget this epic fail by Estes...

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
Too bad I don't know what Cromulent means.
by Steve Schreiber on Sep 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Missed the game. Scale of 1-10 (1 being least) how bad was teh suck?
Consequences will never be the same.
About an 8 or 9.
At least it was over quickly….
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
how have i not drunk myself retarded from watching this team?
i think the wilpons should by us all at least 2 drinks
I hate Philadelphia so much.
Can I take those all at once?
You might be able to buy a round for the entire stadium crowd when it’s cold in April next year.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone see the last post on the gamethread?
Time for some flaggins….I encourage everyone to join me in the effort.
I wish he would make an attempt to make contact with first base.
by Putnan Prince on Sep 25, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
+2
that is hilarious
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
by itsmetsforme on Sep 25, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Except it's not really true.
In the last 14 days he’s batting .296 (.308 in the last week).
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.
Sure, why not?
We’re not going to the playoffs anyway, so why should we care about losing players to suspension? Plus, those punks are asking to get pistol-whipped right now.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
1st at bat Saturday,Utley will be plunked.
by Putnan Prince on Sep 25, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't support intentionally injuring anyone...
But it strikes me as mind-bogglingly dumb to slide hard at this point. I have to imagine a “hey, sorry man” conversation went on after the slide…..But it is the Phillies, so perhaps not.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Missed this game.
Was asleep. Worth it, from the looks of it.
Was Utley’s slide into Tejada reasonable (and don’t be like OMG ITS TEH PHILLIES NO WAY ITS REASONABLE)?
"I bet you'd lobby her, you horny 15 year old!" -Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan
No idea....
Gamecast watcher here….But there were some folks on the gamethread—probably with their heads in the over right now—who described it in detail. From what it sounded like it was clearly dirty but not Victorino dirty.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The former Mets on SNY seemed to agree it was a good, hard legal slide, but that it was not common in today’s game. Also, that the Mets should respond.
by EastFallowfield on Sep 24, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Man....
Wouldn’t a hard pitch into Utley’s knuckles—and resulting broken bone—suck for the Phillies? I’m not sure why you would slide hard into a 160 lb rookie when there’s really nothing left to play for? Just makes little sense to me.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Trolling as I've never taunted you guys here & actually sympathize with the Mets a great deal
And before I have to type “no anger/hate directed at you guys” or “/sarcasm fail”, please take this as the good natured fan talk it is.
That being said, if the Mets retaliate in any but a fair and proportional manner & ending up hurting Utley, I swear to Jeebus, Baseba’al & the Ghost of Tug McGraw that I will break my “Running on to the field is NEVER acceptable” rule and make damned sure before I’m arrested and banned for life that the Mets leave Philly the for the last time this year short an entire infield and as many outfielders as I can get to before I’m tazed and/or leg-swept by Matt Diaz.
; p
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt you have anything to worry about
Sounds like the worst thing in store, like someone said on here, is a Lucas Duda or Chris Carter making damned sure he gets to 2B if he has the chance (if you know what I mean). Utley’s a good defender, he should be able to handle it.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.
And that's fair and proportional
so long as it’s not spikes up. Just gotta realize that with the man-crush Philly had on Utley, we’re a little more Mamma Bear/(incredibly badass) Cub with him than with most.
We have a lot of fun with it, but to be totally honest, this is closer to the truth than any of us are willing to comfortably admit.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I honestly can't blame you.
If there was one player on the Phillies that I’d like to be on the Mets, it’s Utley.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.
Haha, I think that's the universal sentiment
…But I like the way that Utley plays.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa...
reply fail.
There was a whole lead up to that but it disappeared when I hit “post.” It was about how I hear it from fans all over the league, but I don’t feel like typing it again and now that I think about it, you probably don’t want to read it.
So no harm no faul.
Cheers.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he went into his slide so his knee hit ground
past second base. That has to be a dirty slide in anybody’s book. Except Keith’s, of course. He never lets the facts get in the way of an opinion.
I didn't think it was too bad.
A little late, but he could reach the bag and he kept his feet down. Nowhere near as dirty as the Murphy slide for comparison purposes.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.
The Mets also missed the game because they were asleep
My feeling is that if there had been ANYTHING else to talk about in this game, the slide wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near as much air time.
It was almost 100% unremarkable...
At one point I was posting and reading an article on another site at the same time. I looked up and it was the mid 8th. I was shocked. Nothing happened.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I wasn't even watching the game until 8:30
I was watching a movie and then turned the game on thinking it would be in like the 5th
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Missed the game. Went to gym.
Then again, I’ve made it a point to miss the games since that epic fail of a West Coast Trip.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
and the nets have officially pasted the mets in most depressing sports team
and the NBA season hasn’t even started. They’re drive is commendable.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
They won 12 games last year
but they only just became the most depressing??? What was a hell of a lot more depressing was they got little to nothing for VC and RJ. They are getting something here. Gina, you’re one of the best posters on here, but you’re being a complete Debbie Downer on this trade. Did you want them to win 18 games next year, 24 in 2012 and maybe 35 in 2013? Anthony is a great player. He’s not Durant or Wade or Lebron or Kobe, but he’s pretty effing good. He’s a matchup nightmare, and definitely in the top 3 or 4 of all small forwards. He’s at a higher level than VC was when he came to the Nets. The Nets got a lot better if they get him, relax. They gave up Favors, who will not be a superstar, and if and when he becomes very good, there’s a good chance it won’t be with the Nets. Harris was pretty terrible last year as well, and they are freeing up salary there. It’s not like Melo is some selfish ball hog. He shoots 46 pct. from the field. At the very least, they will be much more interesting to watch next year and the year after that. And there’s no reason they can’t get other quality guys to make a run in 2 or 3 years.
And he gets to play with the owner's mini giraffe...
Which would leave me feeling pretty pumped about the state of things.
Slightly more seriously, I don’t see what Nets fans can be upset about. There is literally no way it can get worse. The Dolans forced me out of Knicks fandom and now I am a quasi-fan without a team. With the Nets relocation to Brooklyn I have the chance to fit within an exception of fandom switching, as I will always answer “Brooklyn,” never “New York” when someone asks me where I am from. I’m excited to see how these things work.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides cap room?
the whole “there’s no reason they can’t get go other quality guys” was the same argument after the VC trade, and we never got those guys. Quality guys don’t just fall out of the sky, and Carmelo isn’t a championship player. Once he signs the extension and the nets extend their current young players there will be no room to bring in marquee players. Instead we’ll be stuck at permanent mediocrity. Sure Carmelo will put up 25+ a game, but he’ll do it shooting a middling percentage on a high number of shots, he’s not an efficient scorer and doesn’t impact the game in any other way, he’s a second fiddle player not someone you build a championship around. With him the Nets will be better than they were last year but never good enough to be more than play-off fodder for the heat/magic/bulls of the east and we’ll just end up having to blow the whole thing up again like we did with the big 3. That’s why I don’t want any part of this deal I don’;t care if we win 30 more games than we did last year, when winning 45-48 games is going to be our cap as long as we’re trying to build around Carmelo. I’d much rather build through the draft and watch a team win 10 games than be stuck with a permanent .500 team.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Name me the trade
in NBA history in which the team that received the superstar in their prime would undo the trade after the fact. Still waiting…….
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Well um maybe the um.....
by the way, his crunch time stats were the best in the league this past year. I know most fans don’t like stats and just want to go on feel such as “he is not a championship player” even though he CARRIED a team to a college championship. Gina, I normally like your posts, but you seem lost on this one.
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I cant let this go
I went to cuse…. his role players were a short white guy who shot a lot of threes that sometimes went in and a long armed black guy who is a very marginal role player in the nba. If you had told me before the season that they would have been good enough to win it all I would have said you were nuts.
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
? What in the world does college have to do with anything?
you realize 90% of college teams role players are short white guys who are worse than the dude you’re talking about?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
You said he is not a championship player
He won a college championship. I know you think it is meaningless, but like half the country has an office pool and follows it and he was only 19 at the time and played well in “big spots” [Francesa trademarked]. I’m sure his integrity that caused him to win the college title will prevent him from winning an NBA one. And if you think that college is 90% white dudes then stop watching D III.
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
As a Loyal Quaker....
I can assure you that certain teams that often make the tournament (or at least the first round thereof), consist of students per Gina’s description.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what that has to do anything
how many of those teams won championships? I imagine most who didn’t win a championship would try and go another route. The VC trade was fine and dandy, but it got us nothing but early post season exits. Whether or not you’d want to undo the trade has nothing to do with whether or not it’s worth it. And Carmelo just isn’t worth it.
and I do like stats, which is why I don’t like Carmelo, he puts up a bunch of points on a bunch of shots, barely rebounds and doesn’t create. You can talk about all the crunch time stats you want but it’s not going to matter how many he scores when he gives up just as many on the other end.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Name the team that regrets the superstar trade
from the perspective of the team recieving the superstat, Alcinder going to the Lakers, Garnett to the celts, Barkley, Shaq to lakers
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
most of those teams won championships
my point is carmelo isn’t the final piece to the puzzle like most of those guys were. We don’t have Paul Pierce or Kobe Bryant.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
So because he is not the final piece it is a bad trade?
Get the better player!!!!! Stop trying to be the MacGyver GM. Get me the most better players[not a typo]. If you need to trade a 19 year old kid who has never played and an oft injured point guard than so be it
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way
Phoenix did not win with barkley and they would still do the trade all over again. This is not baseball. One great player matterw much more
by Bruce Wayne on Sep 25, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is,
those Suns teams had been successful before Chuck got there. Once he was there, he was the final piece to the puzzle. It’s an entirely different scenario with the Nets.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
lol wut
Career 46% from the field, better than everybody’s favorite clutchy champion Kobe Bryant. And he averages over 6 rebounds a game…what exactly do you want him to do? Put up Oscar Robertson numbers in the modern NBA? Sounds reasonable.
the mets coulda done something special tonight
they coulda been contendas…could have been something…but no two goobers just had to get on base in the 9th.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Gina from North Carolina...You're on the air.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You know if you mispronounce this...
It becomes very rhymable. One way fairly PG, the other fairly R.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets even fail even in their attempts to be futile
There is literally nothing this team does right.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
they would have been contenders
if the team had all capitalist Americans instead of the Commies that the director snitched on and made a movie to justify his actions.
by secret defense on Sep 25, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting.....
When I searched Google images for “capitalist Americans,” most of the first photos were Che Guevara….
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
down with those capitalist Americans!
Viva La Revolución!
by secret defense on Sep 25, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
And yet none of them were Carlos Beltran!
That’s one rumor we can put to rest.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
So my wife is watching TMZ now....
And there was a thing about A-Rod dating Cameron Diaz. She says “what a step down from Justin Timberlake!” For someone who is allergic to sports, I thought this an enlightened observation.
?
why wouldn’t someone who was allergic to sports think that?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
not to take away from your wife
but a-rod is a massive step down from timberlake anyway you look at it. almost anyone is.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
TMZ is serious business.
It’s kind of a big deal.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 24, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what a game
Glastonbury led, 14-0 at the half…Southington scores 33 unanswered points at home in the 2nd half, and hand the defending state Class LL champtions their first loss since the last game I was their referee…
There were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident
You didn't miss much here....
Seems like you were at the better game tonight.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
83 degrees at game time
77 when we ended…gotta love September football. But, I must admit, the black cold gear pants are very stylish. They were just approved by the National Federation of HS for us to wear. It used to bug the hell out of me: baseball is played in generally fair, if not always perfect, weather. Umpires wear dark grey trousers. Basketball is played indoors: officials wear black trousers. Hockey is on ice, fer crissake…again black trousers. Football is played in all weather (sans lightning), with all kinds of fields in various states of repair, and we wear white knickers and black and white knee highs. Until now…
There were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident
Sounds good....
Did I ask you before whether you ever get pissed off while watching games you are not officiating? I used to get pissed off at legal dramas, and I have to imagine it’s the same for someone who knows what officials are supposed to do. I gotta imagine that watching college and NFL games you see things that make you mad.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap...
Do you realize that tonight you witnessed a meaningful game in September?
I had forgotten that those existed.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 25, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
wright
made it sound like they’re coming hard after utley tomorrow… i hope
Having Ollie there is a great idea
He can just throw pitches at the players’ heads and not get thrown out because everyone knows he sucks.
by chakrabs on Sep 25, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but if he aims at them, he'll miss.
by KranepoolRools on Sep 25, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He'd probably try to throw at them
and end up hitting David Wright standing at 3B or Dickey standing in the dugout.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
Too bad I don't know what Cromulent means.
by Steve Schreiber on Sep 25, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm surprised there's even a recap
why bother, when this team doesn’t show up to play.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
OT
Ardolis Chapman’s 25 pitches on Friday night (each registering 100 mph or faster, including his record-breaking 105 mph heater) were the fastest pitches I’ve ever seen.
Consequences will never be the same.
Ruben Tejada requires vengeance!
bwahahahahahahahahaa!
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
My wife wants to know why all season long ,Met games did not end till about 10:15P.M.
and now there over at 9:20 P.M.What would you tell her?
Tell her the truth.
The Mets suck Dickey.
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
Too bad I don't know what Cromulent means.
by Steve Schreiber on Sep 25, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, they really didnt want to play
seems the team has packed it in
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