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Nationals 13, Mets 3: Labor Day LOL

The Mets picked up where they left off after yesterday's 18-run laser show, scoring two runs in the first inning against Nationals starter Jordan Zimmermann. Unfortunately, things fell apart shortly thereafter, as the Nats unleashed a fusillade of offense against Mike Pelfrey and five relief pitchers, and the Mets' bats went silent. Nats call-up Danny Espinosa went 4-for-5 with two home runs, including a grand slam against Ryota Igarashi. That makes eleven grand slams allowed by Met pitchers this season, and zero hit by Met batters.

Pelfrey was absolutely dreadful, lasting only 3.1 innings while allowing eight baserunners and inducing just four swinging strikes out of 83 pitches. A two-run double by Ivan Rodriguez and RBI single by Nyjer Morgan in the fourth inning helped chase Big Pelf. He was living up in the zone, evidenced by his location chart:

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Keep the ball down, big man!

Behind ten runs in the seventh inning, Jerry Manuel satiated the fans by bringing in Oliver Perez. And in a stunning upset, he didn't pitch too poorly in his two innings of work. He allowed a run on three bloop base hits, while striking out three and walking none. Not exactly the three walk, two home runs appearance we expected and, in the case of some fans, hoped for.

The Mets exhibited patience early on, drawing three walks in the first inning alone, leading to the aforementioned two runs. Josh Thole rolled an RBI single through the right side of the infield in the third inning, temporarily providing a 3-0 lead. The lineup packed it in after that, reaching base just twice from innings four through nine. One of those baserunners, David Wright, was caught stealing second base in the fifth inning after drawing a walk.

Game two is Tuesday at 7:05 PM, featuring two pitchers making their major league debut -- Dillon Gee and Yuneski Maya.

Poem by Howard Megdal

Big Pelf, on day for it, certainly labors
As Mets get shellacked by their Potomac neighbors

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I didn't even realize they'd signed Maya

that will makes me sad on the inside.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Sep 6, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know much about Maya

though I do know that his signing was big news, in part because he was a Cuban defector. (He was born in the same town as Danys Baez)

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by sj10689 on Sep 6, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't much,

but this is the most I could find on Maya:

Once the first pitch arrived, Maya pitched precisely as advertised. He threw both overhand and slightly sidearm as he breezed through the first three innings. He struck out Kenny Williams – the son of the White Sox’ general manager – on eight pitches, dropping down to throw sliders. He spotted fastballs between 88 and 91 miles per hour, hitting 90 mostly. He slider hovered around 80 mph, and his big, looping curveball – which he threw overhand and from the side, to mimic his slider – fluctuated between 65 and 73 miles per hour

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Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Sep 6, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, there was an afternoon game on a Monday!?

I thought this only applied to doubleheaders, and I could only recall the fact that these games happened a few times on Mondays. (Usually, these things happen either at Wrigley, or Patriots’ Day at Fenway, when they do.)

I heard a very valid opinion on the news the other day that the Mets are playing like the season is already over, and I believe that this is happening. Don’t pay too much mind to yesterday’s all-eggs-in-one-basket performance. You could score 8 runs, 18 runs or 80 runs in one game, but it will only net you ONE win. Spread out over multiple games, the effects are more profound. Either way, maybe it’s better that I missed what was a deafening 1-5-1-5-1 sequence by the Nats in innings 3-7.

Tomorrow’s matchup should be interesting, somehow.

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by sj10689 on Sep 6, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

TGIFS

(Thank God it’s Football Season)

I can’t wait for 9/9/10

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by sj10689 on Sep 6, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're playing like the season is over

because the season is over.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 6, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait what?

I thought we could expect meaningful games in September!

by MookieTheCat on Sep 6, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what they meant

was that the games vs. the Braves and Phillies would be meaningful for those teams.

by packard37 on Sep 6, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

it’s a different kind of meaningful

by jdon on Sep 6, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is!

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

by Russ on Sep 6, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby O

talking about how Pelf shouldn’t need Warthen to come out and burp him and change his diaper. That could make for an awkward plane ride home.

by packard37 on Sep 6, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Gary Denbo isn't a bad choice for pitching coach, either

He introduced the use of simulated/recorded pitching projectile motion technology that would prove beneficial to the entire pitching staff (Hell, Ollie might even make a successful bullpen career exclusively as a LOOGY.)

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by sj10689 on Sep 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, scratch that

He’s a hitting coach for the Yankees. My bad. (Maybe he can serve a dual role, I don’t know)

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by sj10689 on Sep 6, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol of course he is

they would go out and pay for a guy who innovates and is on the cutting edge with technology…we would use the guy who’s plan to fix everyone was to tell have them throw strikes.

mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon

by Gina on Sep 6, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or calls a pitcher a habitual liar

OR have a manager who suggests a right hander might be more effective throwing left handed.

by jdon on Sep 7, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least Ike is continuing his hot streak at the plate--2BBs in 4 PAs. Good work.

Wish I could get his performance against the various pitch types for the last two-three weeks. It would mean a lot for next year if he’s actually turning a corner.

Duda’s on the ropes. Is he getting good at bats, or does he look overmatched?

Good luck tomorrow to Gee. I still don’t get why Pat F Misch was up rather than Gee, but it’s good to see Dillon getting a shot.

by Jack Str on Sep 6, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Btw, if you want to gag take a look at our relievers ERA in the box score for that game.

Reliever’s ERA tends not to mean all that much, but that’s an ugly stack of numbers right there.

by Jack Str on Sep 6, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's gold, Jerry, gold!

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's great

"We're investigating the investigative procedure of the investigation of Tony Bernazard"---Omar Minaya (he really didn't say it but he would"

by firejerrynow on Sep 6, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks a bit overmatched IMO

He’s been chasing a lot of pitches low so far & hasn’t been patient at the plate either.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Sep 6, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

his success rates starting with ’05 are 71, 80, 87,75, 75, and 64 this year

by packard37 on Sep 6, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know who's gonna be starting Wednesday's game?

I’m gonna go either tomorrow or Wednesday, and if Mejia was gonna pitch Weds I’d like to see that instead of Gee.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Sep 6, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Dickey Wednesday, Gee tomorrow

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?

by Syler on Sep 6, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

forgot that I'm busy Wednesday evening

which means I guess I’m seeing Gee’s debut. Hopefully this goes better than the time I saw Paul Wilson’s debut…

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow: Gee vs Maya

Wednesday: Dickey vs Livan

Also, we get Halladay on Friday and Oswalt on Saturday.

by James Kannengieser on Sep 6, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

Gets us that much closer to 5th place and a nice top-10 pick!

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 6, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

500, huh, right..

I was going to be happy if this team could just finish above 500, now, I will be happy if they fight off the NATS and stay out of the basement.

by PiazzaHOF on Sep 6, 2010 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

It's highly unlikely

that they end up in last place.

Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?

by Brian. on Sep 6, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

We’re 7 or so up on the Nats with more than 17 to go. Stranger things have happened.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 6, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 2010 New York Mets

“We’re unlikely to finish last”

by packard37 on Sep 6, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Unfortunately, part of me is rooting for the Mets to end up in last place

so that Minaya’s departure is expedited and so that perhaps the Willypons recognize that something just might be a little wrong with their stewardship of OUR frakking team.

by Jack Str on Sep 6, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...

Good luck on that one. Honestly, I think an absolute last place finish

By the way, for those who care. Our last place magic number is 34. (Nats wins and Mets losses).

by MookieTheCat on Sep 6, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry 32.

Was looking at standings that did not include today’s game.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 6, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's wholly possible you know to finish in the basement

the Nats have a more productive offense than this team…

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Sep 7, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree.

Checking my math on the magic number set up a few scenarios that seemed not unreasonable.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be more pissed if they finished above 500 but not make the playoffs

they have nothing to gain by winning games at this point. The best case scenario is they suck the rest of the season, Jerry and Omar get canned, and they get a high draft pick.

by secret defense on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is our magic number to

get the first pick. can we do it if we lose 90% of our games? If so, I retract my earlier wish" I want Jerry to finish the season

by jdon on Sep 6, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

there is always last place in our division.

that is something to look forward to. I am still not sure it has dawned on the Wilpons completely yet.

by jdon on Sep 6, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pulling for a top-10

What can I say, I’m a dream big.

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 6, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dream big or go home

We have nothing left to shoot for except for a top 10 pick in one what is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts ever.

by Russ on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly

WTF happened to Pelf?

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Sep 6, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

IMHO Streaky pitchers happen...

All over the place. Maybe he’s having trouble at home? Who knows really?

by MookieTheCat on Sep 6, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The New York Mets...

problems, problems, and some more problems…

Consequences will never be the same.

by NetsMets4Life on Sep 6, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, Film Forum

still remember the time I saw Last Year at Marienbad there, good times.

as for Blaxploitation movies, this cracks me up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2a5zGmBPI&feature=related

by secret defense on Sep 7, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing beats a midnight blaxploitation flick surrounded by drag queens...

Movie theater was NOT quiet. For some reason I had purchased a boa constrictor before going to the movies that night, and so I had that with me.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

It lived in a tank in my bedroom until I went to college...

When I brought it back to the pet store. He liked to eat mice, and on his birthday I got him a finch as a special treat.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

so where do you buy all his food?

and all that mice must have cost a pretty penny.

by secret defense on Sep 7, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Petland

They cost about $2 each and I fed him once every 2 weeks. So no, not so bad.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait to go through all this again next year.

"Never throw a slider to The Glider."

- Ed Charles, No. 5

"Who has more fun than people?"

- Ralph Kiner

by The Glider on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry to be the bearer of good news but

Justin Turner hit for the cycle as he went 6-6 in the Bisons 16-1 victory over Rochester.

by Russ on Sep 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeeeeez.

Thassa lotta hits. Too bad we have our ace Tejada clogging up the position.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, I can't wait for 2010-2011 hockey season...heh.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Sep 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hells yeah!

Sabres!

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 7, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It disgusts me that supposed MET fans on this sight are actually hoping the METS lose

games to get a better draft pick.As if the 12th pick is so much better than the 14th it’s worth the embarassment of last place in the NL East.It’s not!!! Try to show the young players that this team does not quit playing hard.Try to knock off the Braves or the Phillies from the wild card like the Marlins and Washington did to us! How about us fans who actually go to games? We have the right to see our team play hard and especially try to stick it to Bobby Cox for all the pains the Braves have given us.I’d love to see the Phillies struggling to beat us and possibly end the season with something positive Omar and Minaya are gone next year.

by Putnan Prince on Sep 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!

Because that’ll make the Wilpons change the way the run things!

Save Jenrry Mejia!
In lobby for Josh Byrnes/Chip Hale as Mets 2011 GM/Manager.

by Ogre39666 on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few reactions...

1. If you can be disgusted by people on this board, then you need to grow a thicker skin. The longer you are here, the longer you will be disgusted. Too bad you were not on the game thread for the HVW. You would have been so disgusted you would have probably hurled.
2. I am not one of those who buys into the whole “lose for draft picks” thing. I feel baseball drafts are far too speculative to justify this. I want the team to lose because this is what they do best this year. I wanted them to win in April, May, and June, but since July any fan that wants them to win all the time no longer watches the game. I went through my personal mourning period for this season and now it’s over. This is not a good baseball team. Hope for them to lose and you can enjoy watching baseball, which is what I love.
3. As for your point about creating a culture of losing, I could not agree more. But this is a team that has had a culture of losing for the past 2 years plus. Only systemic changes will fix that (meaning no more Omar and Jerry). You need East Germany to get really, really bad before the Berlin Wall comes down, and that’s what I’m hoping for here. A Mets Glasnost. Losing here will lead to this, more than any sort of pyrrhic late season win streak that lets Omar say “we got to .500.”
4. At night when I go to sleep with a warm glass of milk I dream of us playing spoiler to the Phillies. I want this.

by MookieTheCat on Sep 9, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The broom is coming out at the end of the season no matter how the Mets finish.The Mets

need a complete makeover starting with a GM who comes from a winning organization a la Frank Cashen in 1983.Let him pick his manager and the head of minor league development which is probably the most important one in a quality club The only problem is finding the right people and I hope the Wilpons are up to it Some suggestions from Amazing Avenue..

by Putnan Prince on Sep 9, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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