Mets 4, Nationals 1: Gee-Oh-Oh-Dee
by Eric Simon on Sep 7, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
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In his big league debut tonight, Dillon Gee needed just 86 pitches to get through seven innings. His final pitching line looks like this.
That he was pulled despite such a low pitch count can be chalked up to the Quit While You're Ahead maxim afflicting the modern-day handling of young pitchers. It's ridiculous and GKR were quick to point out as much on tonight's broadcast. I understand that confidence is integral in bringing pitchers along, but fail to see the harm in allowing Gee to pitch on until he allows a baserunner or two. At all events, it's nothing to lose sleep over and the salient takeaway from tonight's game is that Gee pitched extremely well against a pretty decent Nationals lineup.
The Nats were aggressive all night and Gee took advantage of that fact, keeping the ball around the strike zone and generating plenty of quick outs. Very little was hit hard; Ian Desmond's line out to center was the only line-drive out Gee recorded, and Willie Harris's home run in the bottom of the sixth may have been the only other well-struck ball all night. Gee also did a great job keeping the ball on the ground, with 11 of his 17 in-play outs coming on the ground. And while he wasn't overpowering, he did get nine swinging strikes (10.5%), with most of those coming on his breaking pitches.
Here is Gee's pitch distribution.
| Pitch Type | Pitches | Strikes | % Strikes | Swinging Strikes | % SwStr | Strikeouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fastball | 42 | 26 | 61.9% | 2 | 4.8% | 1 |
| Changeup | 20 | 13 | 65.0% | 1 | 5.0% | 0 |
| Slider | 12 | 9 | 75.0% | 4 | 33.3% | 2 |
| Curveball | 12 | 5 | 41.8% | 2 | 16.7% | 1 |
He had some difficulty getting the curveball over, but the curve and the slider missed plenty of bats and were the put-away pitches on three of Gee's four punchouts. Not satisfied with merely pitching well, Gee also picked up an RBI single in the second inning in his first major league plate appearance. All told, a fine debut for Gee, who should give us all a reason to watch the Mets every fifth day or so in September.
Lucas Duda went 0-for-2 before Nick Evans pinch-hit for him in the sixth inning. The Duda has just one hit and nine strikeouts in 22 at-bats, though he does have four unintentional walks and has seen 4.25 pitches per plate appearance, which is better than any current Met save the Merchant of Opposing Pitcher Attrition himself, Jon Niese, who has seen 4.63 pitches per plate appearance this season.
Ike Davis had another big day, going 2-for-3 with a tremendous three-run home run in the first that went into the second deck in right-center field at Nationals Park. He also drew a walk, his 24th since the beginning of August. He is hitting .421/.577/.842 in September. Sustainable, no, but it sure is fun to watch.
This series wraps up Wednesday at 12:35pm when R.A. Dickey takes on Livan Hernandez.
Poem by Howard Megdal
Johan sub needs no apology
Ike's blast a study in aerology
Harris continues demonology
All in first win for Dillon Gee
SB Nation Coverage
* Traditional Recap
* Boxscore
* Amazin' Avenue Gamethread
* Federal Baseball Gamethread
Win Probability Added
Big winners: Dillon Gee, +27.1% WPA, Ike Davis, +22.3% WPA
Big losers: Angel Pagan, -5.4% WPA, Lucas Duda, -4.5% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: FANGRAPHS FAIL
Teh sux0rest play: FANGRAPHS FAIL
Total pitcher WPA: +37.6% WPA
Total batter WPA: +12.4% WPA
GWRBI!: Ike Davis
Game Thread Roll Call
Nice job by MookieTheCat; his effort in the game thread embiggens us all.
| Num | Name | # of Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | MookieTheCat | 99 |
| 2 | KeithsMoustache | 79 |
| 3 | aparkermarshall | 46 |
| 4 | HELLYEAHGARYOAK | 34 |
| 5 | Juve1899 | 30 |
| 6 | deadspy3 | 28 |
| 7 | sj10689 | 27 |
| 8 | NetsMets4Life | 26 |
| 9 | the caveman | 25 |
| 10 | NYC Russ | 23 |
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Gee, I wish I had watched this game
Looks like a good one. Damn, Jerry, you gotta let Gee enjoy the success
me too
I stayed up to speed by watching the box score updates on yahoo, sucks living out of market and having to cut my MLB package this year to save $$$
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Sep 8, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Alright who jinxed the no hitter?
good game by Gee.Would of loved to see a few more K’s but still pretty good
"we believe in comebacks"
Jerry being Jerry
First at-bat I watched was the homer.
I shoulda just kept watching the office
My Dad
I yelled into the other room “Gee’s got something special going” and he yelled back “What? A no-hitter?”. Not 5 seconds later, bam, home run.
/FACEPALM
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Don't you mean...
You yelled up from the basement?
by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it was my fault
I fell asleep while Gee hadn’t given up a hit. I then snapped awake and it was 4-1.
In my defence it was around 2am here.
What would Ghandi do?
by metfanintheuk on Sep 8, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
our fearless crew of broadcasters
they said, “Gee is perfect through 4”. or something like that
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
Luis Castillo and Oliver Perez being the two guys holding the money just felt right...
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 8, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh, BDMS....
Note that my response to you on my recent fanpost is meant in the spirit of my analysis: Gonzo and not serious.
Gee Love....And the Special Sauce.
Needs to be on a MSPaintz with Gee and Dickey.
I like that Gee is wearing #35
considering that Gee has the potential to be a Rick Reed clone. I think that’s a good sign (I don’t know what it is a sign of…guess I just like the symmetry).
The one and only mistermet on teh Interwebz!
by Steve Schreiber on Sep 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Damn, I didn't get to see him pitch at all
Hopefully Jerrytroll gives him another start…he deserves it
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
I was duly impressed
with Gee’s first ML start. Gee said he was so nervous it’s a wonder he didn’t black out when he took the mound. Saw no evidence of that though watching him pitch. He had a plan (hear that Pelf?).
Dang that Willie Harris. He’s like that pesky fly that just won’t go away.
Good to see Ike finally getting back to what worked for him earlier this season (or for tuning HoJo out?)
by MetsFan4Decades on Sep 7, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Gee available to use all year
but they give about 20 starts to Ollie, Maine and Misch…and even gave Nieve a start at one point. Mets roster decisions continuing to amaze as always.
So far, Dillon is the best G since
Yaphet Kotto in Homicide: Life on the Street.
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
I find it amazing
that most met fans don’t consider him one of our top 10 prospects
It's because of his limited potential
he’s likely to only become a #5 starter.
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Not to take anything away from him or his debut.
Every team needs a #5 and he could become a good one.
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Since Ain't Nuthin But a G Thang Was Too Long...Here is Dillon Gee (to the tune of Let It Be)
When Johan’s arm’s in a world of trouble
Even Jerry must agree
Who’s left in the system? Dillon Gee.
When Pelf and Misch have played and fumbled
And gave up runs in an endless spree
Who can stop the bleeding? Dillon Gee.
Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee.
Just one game and our fifth starter: Dillon Gee.
And when there’s no point to the season
Except blowouts that will bring Ollie,
Who comes to the rescue? Dillon Gee.
For though the FO is retarted [Note: typo intentional]
Still a chance that they will see
You might want to play some Bisons, like Dillon Gee.
Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee. Yeah
Finally some fucking good news, Dillon Gee.
And when you almost got your no no,
But for that third rate hack Willie,
You’ll get one against the Pirates, Dillon Gee.
That is if the Manuel, king of excuses
Doesn’t start Takahashi
There would be rebellion, Dillon Gee.
Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee.
Welcome to the rotation, Dillon Gee.
Dillon Gee, Dillon Gee
Please ignore Dan Warthen, Dillon Geeeeee…
by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Ya know what...I like this...
I’m fanposting it.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd
This could be another number for AA: The Musical.
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
Reply fail
Meant to reply to MTC’s G number.
What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?
What about the 4 Ks and 3 BBs?
I didn’t see the game, how did his stuff look? He is the International League K King.
Fantastic.
You don’t get the Beatles unless you were great. He struck out the side one inning and had a no-no going into the 6th, til the booth jinxed it. All in all a very promising start.
by MookieTheCat on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
His slider was also really nice looking
and I don’t know if it was him or Hank White, but his curve wasn’t good tonight, but instead of shelving it, he kept showing it occasionally to hitters to keep them cognisant of it.
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You see his post-game interview?
Where he said his curve was off and he went to the slider. Jesus, I’ve been waiting a long time to hear something like that post-game from a Met. It shows a lot of pitching maturity, as does his statement that he is not an overpowering guy so he has to locate his pitches well. Seeing those few minutes catapulted Gee in my mind. I’m really hopeful for this guy. We don’t need any more wild fireballers who are subject to lost velocity issues: give me a pitcher who who understands his strengths and weaknesses and knows what he is supposed to do any day of the week.
He has all the signs of a real nice reliable #5 guy.
And to have that type of understanding at 24, is indeed impressive.
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Jerry has used that reasoning with Johan also (Milwaukee earlier this year)
so it’s not just how he handles young pitchers.
Maya, the Nats pitcher. This the Cuban IFA from this winter, right?
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Sep 8, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
Great debut for Gee, just wish we hadn't had to wait so long
to actually see it. I seriously hope he gets a few more starts and that we have a serious open competition for the #4 and #5 spots next spring. Barring absurd horribleness he needs to be part of the conversation for 2011
"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage
by blueandorange4life on Sep 8, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions
I'm kind of developing a man-crush on his given that post game interview.
He just seems like a guy who was taught at some point how to pitch in context, not how to throw. It’s a good sign.
Wow
What a great showing by Gee. He seems like a pitcher who really knows what he’s doing. I think he could be part of a good rotation next year.
New Idea for next year
One thought of a trade to make, that I know most of you will dislike. But I would look into trying to trade Pagan and Martinez to the Rays for Upton. I feel like it would be smart to deal Pagan because I feel he won’t be able to keep his production up for too long. I would say at most he has another 2 good years in him. I just can’t have faith in someone who starts performing when their 29 and relies a lot on speed and not much power. In my mind it would be better to have a younger player with more upside like Upton. And I wouldn’t mind throwing in Fernando to make the trade. I don’t the highest hope in Fernando and we have Duda and Nieuwenhuis who should be ready in a year or two. Then we would keep Beltran and move him to RF. This would give us a much better lineup with: Reyes, Upton, Wright, Beltran, Davis, Bay, Thole, Tejada.
Then with the rotation I would try to add a pretty solid starter like Webb. Then with our rotation we have Johan, Webb, Pelf, Niese, Mejia/Gee/Dickey. That would be a great staff. And having the depth in our rotation would make our team even better. Combine those moves with some bench and bullpen tinkering, new hitting and pitching coaches, and a new GM and Manager and the Mets have something good cooking. Especially with a Top 10-15 pick in the draft that should be good if we have new management.
If tejada is playing 2nd for us next year...
“that’s a wrap, son” on 2011. We need a legit impact player at that posish to have any chance of competing.
by Mike Clemente on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pagan for Upton is a downgrade in the short-term
and a lateral move at best in the long-term.
Pagan’s career WAR/600 PA = 3.78
Upton’s career WAR/600 PA = 2.83
And Upton is only 3 years younger (26 compared to 29). Throw in F! and it’s even worse.
Pagan has shown the ability to be a productive MLB’er in the past; injuries (which were either freak in nature or now seem to be behind him (for the most part)) just got in the way. We have Pagan under team control for two more arbitration illegible years, no reason to rush and move him.
And it’s rumored that Webb is going to look to make a permanent move to the pan upon his return, so if you move to bring in another starter (which I agree is a good idea), it’s probably best to look elsewhere.
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what is your obsession with trading Pagan for inferior players
you can’t have faith in players who start performing at 29 but you can have faith in a player who hasn’t performed at all?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
maybe he's vying for the GM job
I bet Omar is probably thinking the same thing.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
though in his defense I was wrong about Upton
he just hasn’t performed consistently since 08.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon
That was a good fun game to attend
Great to see Ike crush one to CF, then have Gee notch the RBI. Good, smart pitching performance too.
After the game I went to my friend’s house in East Capitol, and we went for a ten mile run at about eleven PM. Of course, I missed the last metro, but I thought I could take a bus – apparently the day after Labor Day is a holiday timetable though!? (huh?). So I ended up walking halfway across town till I could pick up a taxi. Got back at half three, now having a bowl of oatmeal in a 24 hr diner. Great evening!
A 10 mile run after a ballgame?
Who are you, Mike Pelfrey?
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Ha
Yeah, I had to pay penance for my ballgame food (half smoke and two beers) – can’t have junk food messing with my marathon training. It was great, we ran over to Arlington and it was so quiet and dark, really creepy. But I missed the last bus and had to walk maybe 30 blocks before I found a cab.
wow
and I thought my decision to take the Metro a stop in the opposite direction (to Anacostia – not a good area for non-DC’ers) so I could get on before the crowd, only to watch 3 completely empty trains go right past was a bad idea…
2009 Did Not Happen
Not to get too giddy about this first start
but,
(And I hope I don’t Jinx) Mr. Gee for the next start— I’ve always preferred pitchers who knew how to pitch instead of guys who just throw hard. you guys are right, for some reason when I was watching Mr. Gee pitch, I was thinking—who does he remind me of?! and yep, Rick Reed, who wasn’t too bad a pitcher.
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
ironically
this was the second time I’ve been at a game where a Met pitcher took a no-hitter into the 6th or later. The other was Reed against the Devil Rays (broken up by Wade freaking Boggs).
2009 Did Not Happen
I thought it was OK to pull him
I wasn’t able to see the game but was watching the updates via yahoo box score, and it seemed he was getting into deeper counts.
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
why not let Parnell get the 4 out Save
he only threw 4 pitches. try him out for the 1IP+ save, see if he has the ability to sit and come back out
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
Davis finally hot
wow it is nice, hope he can continue for the rest of the season. it will help him be confident next season. It helps to be facing AAA call ups…look at Murphy at the end of last season
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
Tejada getting a few more hits
maybe he gets his SLG over .300
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
I was hoping
the recap would be titled “Gee’s Up, Nats Down,” but this will do.
Is the sun going to come up tomorrow?
Given the Nat's History....
Gee’s Up, ’Pos down.
Better.
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