Chris Young And The Problem With Splits
Last night our friend Matthew Artus at Always Amazin' disagreed, for the first time ever, with the Sandy Alderson think tank in Queens. It seems Matthew doesn't like the Chris Young signing on account of Young's divergent performances at home -- the incomparably run-suppressant Petco Park -- and on the road. The article, as with most everything Matthew writes, is well worth your time, but it does overreach a bit in its apparent assertion that Young's modest success in San Diego was mainly due to the generosity of his home park to pitchers of all stripes.
The natural dualism of splits is that they can be at once curiously instructive and easily misconstrued, and it's tempting to draw conclusions from them without first taking stock of their many caveats. With respect to Chris Young's home/road splits, there are a number of things we must consider before deciding that he's simply a lousy pitcher away from Petco Park.
Most players have a natural home field advantage, and for a variety of reasons -- supportive crowd, proximity to family, elevated comfort -- players generally perform better at home than on the road. For example, take a look at the NL splits for runs allowed (runs per nine innings) over the last four years.
Year Home R/9 Road R/9 Diff 2007 4.56 5.04 0.48 2008 4.44 4.89 0.45 2009 4.31 4.76 0.45 2010 4.14 4.68 0.54 I use R/9 instead of ERA here because of a known scorer bias in home games (that is, official scorers notoriously, even if unconsciously, favor home pitchers by charging more errors -- and therefore fewer earned runs -- to the home team). It's only four years of data, but it certainly suggests a fairly significant advantage in run prevention for pitchers in home games. The average "home field advantage" for pitchers has been on the order of a half-run since 2007. That's a substantial difference and, frankly, a larger one than I was expecting.
Young's road splits don't include games at Petco (obviously), which probably short-changes him a bit because other pitchers' road splits do include games at Petco. Since Petco is a much friendlier park for pitchers than even the average NL park, losing out on one or more road games there can have a small but real affect on road ERA (or FIP or whatever).
Cutting a player's statistical record in half -- in other words, tossing away half of Young's innings by only considering his road performance -- necessarily leaves you with a less reliable basis for projecting his performance going forward. Whatever conclusions you might draw about Young based on the 750 innings he pitched the past four seasons must bear even closer scrutiny when you've shaved off 370 of those innings. Fewer innings means a greater chance that the performance was influenced by random variation. This could mean a positive or a negative affect, of course, but the salient point is that the predictive value -- which is really the crux of the argument over Young: How is he likely to perform in 2011? -- is diminished.
Whatever advantage Young is losing by leaving San Diego's home park he is gaining back to a significant degree by playing his home games at Citi field as opposed to, say, Coors Field or even a neutral run-scoring environment. That is, losing the "Petco advantage" is mitigated considerably by gaining the "Citi Field advantage."
None of this is to suggest that Young is a great pitcher or that he's some kind of game-changer for the Mets, but it does say that leaning too heavily on Young's Petco performance is to ignore -- and perhaps be consumed by -- the pitfalls that are concomitant with splits in general and home/road splits in particular.
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Both a good "target" and a good "rebuttal."
On topic: the sentence in Artus’ article that does give me pause (well, other than the reference to Young’s last 3 seasons ending in injury), is this “He doesn’t allow significantly more home runs, implying his road troubles come from more than a shorter distance to the outfield wall.” I don’t know quite what to make of it, but it could suggest that Citi’s free range gaps might expose something in Young.
Off topic: both from the Artus article and your qualification / analysis / etc., I am again reminded of how superior the writing and insight is here than anywhere in the MSM. I can’t help thinking that this reflects the somewhat faster synapse-firing of people trained in say law or math than those who actively set out to base their life around pestering jocks who just want to shower and go home. And this is coming from someone who began his college career in journalism. :)
splits
I’m not overly concerned about Young but..Pelfrey has worse road numbers too. the Mets had a disgusting road record last year. Some of this will be fixed by having a manager (though I imagine a pitching coach would help), but not all. This tendency to sign/talk about pitchers that “would be a good fit in Citi Field” ignores where we lost most of our games last year. On the Road.
-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan
Why don't you just say
Chris Young’s going to be the same pitcher he was with SD…around .500 with a 4 + ERA – because he’s going from one pitcher friendly park to another….I think you did mention this somewhere along this essay and it really is the only important point here.
While your
suggestion would certainly be less wordy, and maybe it’s my science background, but I’m partial to theories that are supported through, um…data.
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by Nystrom on Jan 19, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the important point
is that splits can be misleading. Also of note is that Artus had the gall to disagree with Alderson even though Sandy invited him over for the blogger interview.
Another way to look at is
that Matthew has the integrity to stand by his convictions whereas I opt instead for the “shameless sycophant” route, mindlessly celebrating every move Sandy makes.
The leader is good, the leader is great, we surrender our will, as of this date!
by Eric Simon on Jan 19, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
stock up on old school simpsons references
by Rob Castellano on Jan 19, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
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by blueandorange4life on Jan 19, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
don't blame me
i voted for Kodos.
"they're still shitty"
by Help!I'maRock! on Jan 19, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'll admit...
“Shameless Sycophant” is my favorite flavor of Kool Aid.
Your notes are spot on, though. I’m leery of point #2, as it could lead down a slippery slope of weighing the effects of one park versus another. Since you can’t do that due to baseball’s unbalanced scheduling, I’m actually comfortable with a Petco vs. Non-Petco comparison. I’m still not crazy about the signing, though.
Jagr? Seriously?
by Matthew Artus on Jan 19, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Nananananananana BATMAN!!
I mean, LEADER!
I am willing to wait to build a world class franchise (h/t to millsy)
by BobbyV_Incognito on Jan 19, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
But that would ignore the progress
what Eric is trying to do with this article is explain why this would be the case, and why the article in question was misinformed.
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by Aidan Gibson on Jan 20, 2011 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
forget the splits...
the story here is that expecting this guy to be able to handle a 6 month season of taking the ball every 5th day is asking a lot given his recent shoulder history. This isn’t Chris Capuano who pitched over 100 innings (combined) this past season. Young should have to prove he can pitch before he’s handed a rotation spot….
this situation really is no better than how Omar handled Kelvim Escobar and John Maine a year ago…. shoulder issues tend to plague a pitcher relentlessly. This is a fine depth signing, but expecting Young to be a mainstay of the rotation sounds like shaky logic to me.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 19, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions
not 6 months
Doesn’t have to be six months. Some depth in Buffalo in Gee, guys on other teams might get traded. Santana could be back in July. Pitch him while he’s healthy. if he explodes, well, we’ve got a new clubhouse guy to clean that up.
-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan
Actually ...
All he has to do is pitch till the All-Star break (or there abouts) since thats when it can be argued that Santana is coming back. If he can give the Mets 3.5 months, they would be ecstatic. a full season is gravy for us (and money for him)
by brooklynlou on Jan 19, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately, for Young
it’ll be one start at a time… looking ahead to mid-season is being gluttonous.
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 19, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
There is system depth behind Young
so I wouldn’t get bent out of shape if he is in the rotation.
"The Mets are gonna be amazin'!" - Casey Stengel
"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier
Who?
Gee, Bonser, and Misch?
and btw, how about this one:
“Bavetta with the vendetta!”
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 19, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
And what's wrong with Gee?
Even Misch, with all his perceived trouble was about average for a #5.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
we all know that Misch is a fringy guy
and Gee is unknown factor. I’m all for giving Gee opportunity and Young earning the call up starting the year in Buff, frankly.
Bonser hasn’t pitched in the majors since 08… he’s a pretty big reach, though he could surprise…
by ThnkGoodnessforHowieRose on Jan 19, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Bonser wasn't even good pre injury.
His name is great though and we need some arms for Buffalo.
Great Point
I’m not happy with Young or Capuano. But in reality if Pelf, Niese, Dickey and Gee win 4 of the spots we really only need a 2 to 3 month stopgap starter to Johan. Maybe we should look at Galaragga.
by The real Julio from Paterson on Jan 19, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Home Field Advantage
Wow, a half-run per nine is a whole lot. Here’s an interesting article on the phenomenon from BP, which links to a long series of articles I didn’t read. Anyway, teams win at home about 53-55% of the time pretty consistently in this era. The author runs some studies to isolate factors, and finds that familiarity with the ballpark seems to be highly significant. New arrivals on teams don’t see much of a home field advantage; traded-away players who return to their old parks DO see an advantage.
I think its a good sign
I like the plan and am fine with sticking to it. we have a few guys coming in this season that may or may not provide some decent innings. then next season we start to have some money to play with. all these guys that we have signed are capable of giving us some good games.
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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 19, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions
Citi will mitigate the loss of playing games at Petco.
And don’t always trust splits as the sample size can be misleading.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
You missed a spot:
From TFA: “Whatever conclusions you might draw about Young based on the 750 innings he pitched the past four seasons must bear even closer scrutiny when you’ve shaved off 370 of those innings.”
Er, Young’s only pitched 370 innings TOTAL over the past four seasons. So, when you’ve doubled his actual total you’re probably going to come to some erroneous conclusions.


































