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The Mets Killers Team: First Base

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For a full explanation of this little project, see my introductory post here.

The Reader's Digest version: I'm working on a piece for the upcoming Amazin Avenue Annual about an imaginary team made up solely of Mets Killers, to see how such a team would fare when forced to play a full schedule against teams other than the Mets.

Today's poll concerns first basemen--some otherworldly, some merely great, and others classic Met Killers (i.e., HOF level against the Mets and no one else). Who will make the cut? Cast your vote now!

Poll away!

Poll
Among active players, who is the biggest Mets Killer first baseman of them all?
Jorge Cantu
195 votes
Albert Pujols
271 votes
Gaby Sanchez
72 votes
Ryan Howard
201 votes

739 votes | Poll has closed

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I was tempted to vote Pujols because he has killed us so much in recent history

but I went with Howard.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jan 6, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

I went with Howard.

by nmigliore on Jan 6, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Why

do they insist on pitching to Pujols or cantu’/

by bob c on Jan 6, 2011 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Pujols is not a Mets killer . .

He is just great at baseball. His numbers are across the board worse against the Mets than his overall career numbers.

by goquakers on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

How are you defining Met killer?

A guy that normally sucks and is only good against the Mets? Or a guy that mashes the ball, and is not afraid to also mash it against the Mets.

by JustSayMets on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The original post gave us this guideline:

“…a Mets Killer is often (but not always) a thoroughly mediocre player against anyone but the Mets.”

by CTRefJay on Jan 6, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

In two words

Willie Harris.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Jan 6, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah he gets my vote when we hit outfielders

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 6, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at that Cardinals game in 08/04/09 at Citi

Our bullpen fell apart, and Pujols had that grand slam in the 10th. I had to vote Pujols. That moment might have traumatized me for life.

by JustSayMets on Jan 6, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

heilman game

I was at the game in ’08 when Manuel burned through his bullpen and was stuck with Heilman into his roughly 60s in pitch count and he caved and gave up a Pujols bomb.

But flat Mets kilers..probably Cantu. We’ve had Howard’s kryptonite for years.

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Jan 6, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He's worst against Ollie

in 29 PAs: .120/.207/.240 1 HR, 14 Ks

This is the main reason why I can never take Ryan Howard seriously. If you can’t hit Oliver Perez, you’re not a star. Plain and simple.

Carter, hand me my thinking grenades!

by meigs1414 on Jan 6, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ollie just happened to have that weird slurve thing working

on those particular days. It was pretty tough to hit when he threw it in the general direction of the plate

by gogomets on Jan 6, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It goes against my general definition of the term "Mets Killer"

but I voted for Pujols, because I’ve seen him in person 3 times (all vs. the Mets), and in those 3 games, he’s hit 4 homers. Yikes.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jan 6, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like I should go to more

do my part to wipe help Barry Bonds out of the record books

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Is so completely wrong and so completely right, all at the same time.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Jan 6, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Cantu

Pujols is all world against everybody.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jan 6, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

I just don't understand the methodology

If someone is an everyone-killer, I don’t think he can correctly be called a Met killer. That’s it’s own category, and it’s decidedly something different than just people who are freakishly great at baseball, full stop.

by SuperT on Jan 6, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Come to think of it

shouldn’t Adam Dunn be included in the poll?

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Jan 6, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

Cauntu, because he's not nearly as good against other teams as he is against us

although i haven’t checked his splits so it might just feel that way. Howard gave us that strikeout looking to end the Phils playoffs, and his contract will destroy the phils payroll for years to come, so he might actually be a Met helper, and Pujols is just too fucking good at baseball. He’s a pitcher killer.

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 6, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

Cantu has a .730 career OPS against us

Below his career average

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jan 6, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

just feels worse than it is i guess

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Jan 6, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Puljos

hands down.
He kills us every time.
Howard kills us not so much.

John Franco HOF 2011

by JoeBighead on Jan 6, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Watch game 6 again

Without him there would have been no reason for Mookie to the up there.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Jan 6, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

true but i was 4

When that went down

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jan 6, 2011 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I was 8

And a few years ago my dad found a VHS tape of that on eBay. He bought it, and I watched it a few times. I wish he hadn’t lost it since, as it would make a tremendous FanPost. But the game had about 938409314 twists and turns before than ending.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It's one of two games that I've watched all the way through after the fact

I have both on DVD: Game 6, and the bloody sock game.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Twitter: ThomasTSKH

"Everything's gonna be awesome." -Ken Oberkfell

by Thomas Wachtel on Jan 7, 2011 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

my dad was at the game.

unless i find a way to get to a mets world series game no-sporting event i ever go to will be equal in comparison. Well unless i attend the elusive/mythical mets No hitter game.

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Jan 7, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In like 30 years, I'll be able to tell kids,

“I saw the great Albert Pujols play”, just like how my dad always says, “I got to see the great Johnny Bench play”. That’s cool.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 7, 2011 2:02 AM EST reply actions  

I voted Cantu

Honestly I don’t remember Howard being all that good against us, and Pujols isn’t a Met-killer, he’s just an all-time great hitter who continues as such against us.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

Twitter: ThomasTSKH

"Everything's gonna be awesome." -Ken Oberkfell

by Thomas Wachtel on Jan 7, 2011 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

Gaby Sanchez could do no wrong last season.

Against the Mets, he batted .397 / .429. / .662 with an OPS of 1.090, with 6 walks, 15 RBIs and 13 runs scored. Yikes.

Against the Braves, Sanchez hit .208 / .278 / .389 / .677 and against the Phils he hit .270 / .303 / .460 . / 763

That was his rookie season too.

by CatchDog on Jan 7, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I think the voters are missing the point here.

We should’ve had career numbers vs the Mets somewhere in each post or something. Pujols is slightly less great than he is normally against us. He’s an everyone killer.

by FrancoTAU on Jan 7, 2011 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of which...

which sites have that info. I couldn’t find anything on B-R. I was curious about this and the Joe McEwing comment to see if Tommy Hutton really did own Seaver the way everyone said.

What's the score, boys?
What did Bugs Bunny do?
What's with the Carrot League baseball today?

by StorkFan on Jan 9, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I know B-R does

And I think Fangraphs too. It’s hard sometimes to find the link to “Splits” but once you do team by team performance is there.

It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.

by MookieTheCat on Jan 10, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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