AAOP: The Sad Offseason
So, I figured I'd go crazy here with some big moves in my AAOP. These 2012 Mets will look a LOT different than the 2011 Mets, but I think they'd be competitive. I acknowledge in advance that this will be controversial, and I'm a little sad that my plan ended up looking this way.
First off, the big question: my head says let Jose Reyes go. I love Reyes, but he's too much of a risk for a team with the financial problems the Mets have. And now that there's no Steve Einhorn bailing them out, I think the Mets need to start thinking about payroll flexibility.
If you look at the post-Reyes Mets, almost all of their offensive strength is in players on the easier side of the defensive spectrum (LF/RF/1B/3B). This is a problem, and one that we need to address this offseason.
1. First things first: we need to do a bad contract swap. Mets trade OF Jason Bay to the White Sox for SP Jake Peavy.
Other people here have proposed this one, and I'm in agreement on it. Bay needs to go to clear up space for other hitters, mostly. And Peavy might be a necessary get for the Mets, based on my second trade...
2. BIG DEAL #1 (This is the one I'll get the most criticism for...) - Mets trade SP Jon Niese and IF Jordany Valdespin to the Cincinnati Reds for C Yasmani Grandal, 1B/OF Yonder Alonso, and IF Zack Cozart.
In one fell swoop, the Mets will replace Reyes, bring in a top flight catcher prospect, and add an additional trade chip or corner OF in Alonso. The only way they can do something like this, though, would be to trade their top asset: Jon Niese. Niese is either a good pitcher with BABIP problems or a great pitcher with bad luck. Either way, you are addressing multiple needs at once, and the idea is that you will be able to survive without Niese long-term--you'll have the younger guys coming in over the next couple of seasons, and the team's improved financial position will allow it to spend a bit more on starting pitching in 2015 or so, we hope.
3. BIG DEAL #2 - Mets trade OF Yonder Alonso (or OF Lucas Duda, depending on who the Padres prefer), OF Angel Pagan, OF Kirk Neuwenheis, and cash to the San Diego Padres for OF Cameron Maybin and RHP Matt Lollis.
I think it would be hard to persuade the Padres to trade Cameron Maybin, but the Mets would be giving them a viable CF replacement AND a power bat at the corner, in addition to a pretty good prospect. Lollis is mostly to balance out Neuwenheis a bit, but I acknowledge that this might require a lesser prospect from San Diego to work.
The cash to the Padres is to pay the difference between Maybin and Pagan. It will probably be somewhere between $4 and $5 million.
4. Move David Wright to LF.
Wright's become a net negative at third base, defensively, and there's now a big opening in LF for the post-Bay Mets. The other option is to trade Wright and stick Alonso in LF, but I'd rather have Wright if I can. If Chipper can make the move in the middle of his career, then Wright can, too.
5. Sign the following players:
- SP Chris Capuano: 2 years, $15 million ($7.5 million/year)
- RP Frank Francisco: 3 years, $21 million ($7 million/year)
- RP Takashi Saito: 1 year, $1.5 million
- RP Joe Nathan: 1 year, $3 million (innings incentives to $7 million)
- SP Kenshin Kawakami, SP Brad Penny, and SP Scott Kazmir (spring training roster invites)
- OF Scott Hairston: 1 year, $1.5 million
- IF Adam Everett: 1 year, $700K
- SP Mike Pelfrey: 1 year, $5 million
On my count, that's $92.7 million before the minimum contracts and roster invites. Add in a bunch of minimum contracts (I'm guessing 14-15), and we're up to $99 million. Add in the Pagan cash, and we're up to $103 million or so. So there's still some flexibility in the payroll for the season itself.
What does that roster look like?
1. Murphy (3B)
2. Maybin (CF)
3. Davis (1B)
4. Wright (LF)
5. El Dudarino (RF)
6. Cozart (SS)
7. Tejada (2B)
8. Thole (C)
Bench
Hairston (OF)
Everett (IF)
Evans (1B/OF)
Pridie (OF)
Nickeas (C)
Pitching
SP - Johan Santana
SP - Jake Peavy
SP - R.A. Dickey
SP - Chris Capuano
SP - Mike Pelfrey
Bullpen
CL - Frank Francisco
RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Takashi Saito
RP - Tim Byrdak
RP - Manny Acosta
RP - Bobby Parnell
RP - Daniel Herrera
In the minors, you'd have whichever spring training invites didn't make the cut, or didn't graduate thanks to injury. You'd also have Josh Stinson, Dillon Gee, and Pedro Beato as future call-ups for injuries. On the hitting side, you'd have a premier catching prospect, Yasmani Grandal, in AAA, to pair with your already strong pitching prospects.
I think this would be an interesting way to address the team's problems. It would cost them Jon Niese, but I think otherwise, you're really blasting off out of the Omar Minaya era into the future. You would also have young talent on the tougher end of the defensive spectrum: Maybin, Cozart, and Grandal would replace Pagan, Reyes, and Thole up the middle. And they're already quite strong at the corners, with Duda, Wright, Davis, Murphy, and Satin. Essentially, you would be building the core of a young offense to match the young pitching that's coming up. I think once 2013 rolled around, you would have some serious financial flexibility AND the young talent to start competing again.
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That starting rotation looks scary bad
especially with Santana being a big question mark, that bench is equally gross, and Wright and Duda in the same OF? No thanks.
Mets, Jets, Islanders, Knicks.
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No me gusta Wright moving to LF
Much rather have Murph there, even with his bad defense.
I do like getting rid of Bay, though.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.
Niese
isn’t going anywhere, and you’re getting absolutely fleeced in that trade with San Diego. Alonso is better than Maybin, hands down, and trading essentially both center fielders that we have? No thanks.
I like Alonso, but is pretty much an average 1B miscast as an OF
Maybin is an excellent CF with plus hitting skills. Maybin is the better player and fits our team needs better.
That trade for the Reds players is a pipe dream though.
by secret defense on Oct 23, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Good stuff on the BIG DEAL #1
The Reds give up 2 top prospects and get an above average (at times) pitcher and minor league MI in return?
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Not kidding, over on DRB, that’s bigger than the haul we’re expecting for Shields.
Am I the only one flagging this guy?
Seriously, do we have to wait for the money shot or a "F*** THE SOXXXXXX!" before we ban him? Doubleteapot… BAN HIM!!
by AlohaSox on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 PM CDT
I don't think Trade #1 is viable
Not for all those guys back. More realistically, you might get back one of those prospects.
I don’t like giving Frank Francisco three years, or $7 million for each one.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 23, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
3 years guaranteed is a non-no for any reliever.
Especially for a 32 year old.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
I don't get the love for Frank Francisco. I've had enough free agent closers...
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
I really don't think that Reds trade is going to happen.
Valdespin isn’t as good as Cozart. Niese might be equal value to Grandel but not Grandel AND Alonso. Plus I really don’t like trading away a young, const-controlled, effective starter. You’re addressing an area of need (C ), but making an area that’s not strong even weaker (SP).
I also really don’t like a 3-year deal guaranteed for a reliever who is 32.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
Yeah 3 years to 32-year old Francisco is a bad idea
Especially for what you’re paying him, I’d rather not have to pay that much to a useless 35-year old when it turns out Holt or someone is our relief ace of the future.
Mets, Jets, Islanders, Knicks.
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