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Investigating Hudgens, Part 2: Pitches Per Plate Appearance and Ruben Tejada

Here we are, still trying to unpack the benefit of a good batting coach. Dave Hudgens seems to have had some impact on the lineup this year, at least judging from our first attempt at figuring out how the Mets batters had changed their approaches under his tutelage.

Now it's time to take a look at pitches per plate appearance. It seems that a patient philosophy would demand more patience of its' batters, doesn't it? Here are the digits for the key players that played in 2010 under Howard Johnson and returned to action last season.

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It's a mixed bag. The Mets as a team are taking more pitches, but only Ruben Tejada and David Wright are taking more pitches than they have over the course of their careers. More on Tejada in a bit.

The fact that this is a mixed bag is actually okay! Amazin contributor Bill Petti did some work relating pitches per plate appearance to different plate discipline statistics on Beyond the Box Score yesterday. The good news is that P/PA is highly year-to-year correlated, so it does seem like a skill. Players generally see a similar amount of pitches per PA over the course of their career.

The bad news is that it is only slightly correlated to other, more important skills. For example, it looks like pitches per plate appearance explains, at most, about 50% of a batter's walk rate (the r^2 between P/PA and BB% is only .54). Intuitively, it actually makes sense: seeing more pitches is only valuable if you are discerning correctly which are balls and which are strikes. Finally, swinging at, and making contact on, pitches in the zone takes patience, eye, and hand-eye coordination.

Back to Tejada. He's one of two players on the Mets that saw more pitches in 2011 than he did in his career. Alone, that's not that much of a step forward. After all, he saw .16 more pitches per plate appearance. That's it. But let's revisit the stats from part one of this piece, with an added column:

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The new column compares the player's performance to their career levels, and you'll see that it takes some of the shine off of the impact of the hitting coach. In some cases, the improvement could have been regression towards career norms. So many of these are fully-formed veterans, anyway. There's still more green than red on the right side of the ledger in most cases.

But put the P/PA and revised contact and swing charts together, and you get two success stories for Hudgens. David Wright swung at pitches outside the zone less and made more in-zone contact than he's had in his career. Some of it could be regression, but it looks like Wright and Hudgens are on the same page.

The other success story is unmitigated. In every possible way, Hudgens has been a great influence on Ruben Tejada's plate discipline. Ruben Tejada saw more pitches per plate appearance, swung at more pitches in the zone, and made more contact in the zone this year. Sure, he swung slightly more at pitches outside the zone, and swung through a few more pitches, but in both cases he was still better than the league norm. He's had a much better walk rate in the majors than the minors, and it's good to see the underlying stats match up. Maybe he'll be a pretty decent middle infielder with the combination of his glove and his patience.

We'll move on to heat maps next week.

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Ruben Tejada will be ...
An eternal backup.
55 votes
A strong super-utility glove-first middle infielder.
76 votes
An average glove-first starting middle infielder.
41 votes
An above-average patience-and-glove middle infielder.
48 votes
The Mets starting shortstop next year.
50 votes

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Interesting stuff

I question the impact of a hitting coach, especially when it comes to plate discipline. Jeff Francoeur is a prime example.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Oct 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Depends on the player, I guess

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

.

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by BlackOps on Oct 26, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tejada

is Luis Castillo without the speed. Now, that is not a terrible player, as Castillo was very good at his peak, but that lack of speed means Tejada will beat out a dozen or so fewer infield hits a year, so he probably hits like .290/.360/.340 at his peak, and doesn’t get you the steals that Castillo gets. With average→ slightly above defense at 2B that is a starter, but barely, and he may have seasons that look pretty ugly when the ball isn’t finding holes.

His minor league track record does suggest that he’s always had pretty good plate discipline, but I do wonder how much of his walk rate this year was a function of his batting eighth most of the year, and whether pitchers will throw him more strikes when they realize he doesn’t have the pop to really hurt them.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Oct 26, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The Castillo comp seems about right

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haven't some projections seen him developing a lot more power?

Castillo without speed is a reasonable downside forecast for Tejada, but if he adds pop as he ages and can retain at least the on-base skill he seemed to find this year, he’ll be a useful starting player rather than just a utility guy.

by anonymous on Oct 26, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could add a little

But it’s not like he has a lot of room to fill out, and he hits very few flyballs. I could see him developing a little gap to gap power, I guess, but I don’t forsee ISOs much over .80 or so.

If offensive levels stay down, though, the .700 OPS 2B with decent defense is a 3 win player. Not Reyes or anything, but certainly playable. I don’t think he’s really a long term MLB shortstop, though.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Oct 26, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair, I don't expect an ISO above .80 for anyone

but as far as Ruben is concerned, I think he could certainly get above .080 if he developed a doubles stroke – not that he will necessarily. But, if the Mets 8 hitter were getting on base at a .360 clip or above while providing solid defense at SS or 2B, I would be OK to try it out

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by astromets on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I say load him up with HGH

And give him an extra .050 on his slugging percentage.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Oct 26, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would surely take

The .290/.360, with a great glove. You could argue that he could be an above-average starting SS in 3-4 years, although the position is on the decline.

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by santana9237 on Oct 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned this elsewhere.

Go to your stat site of choice. Sort 2011 NL 2B with at least 300 PAs by OBP.

Yeah. Tejada’s going to be fine.

by djletz on Oct 27, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

do the same for SS

He’s toward the top of the league either way.

by Mike Clemente on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone who does not think Tejada is the starting SS in 2012

is delusional.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Oct 26, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If the WS ends tomorrow, it will be only days till we know.

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by piazza62 on Oct 26, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please

As if there’s really any way to know right now

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