Callan's AAOP: Don't Laugh, It's Paid For
Since the end of the regular season, I've seen several headlines along the lines of, "do the Mets need to rebuild?" I wasn't aware this was even an issue. Clearly, they've already started; a team that's not rebuilding doesn't trade away players like Carlos Beltran and Frankie Rodriguez mid-season to get back much-needed prospects. The question isn't really if the Mets should rebuild, but to what extent that rebuilding should go.
The paramount rule of any team in rebuilding mode is first, do no harm. Sandy Alderson and Co. have done a good job of this so far, and I'd expect them to continue to do so his offseason. What that will mean, essentially, is a rather unglamorous winter of minor moves to field a Not Awful team, allowing the products of their farm system some much needed ripening and not endangering future payroll flexibilty. I would also expect them to do little trading, either at the major or minor league level, because they'll need to hang onto their most prized minor leaguers , and the major leaguers of any value are too expensive to bring back a haul that would be worth the trouble.
This will be extremely disappointing to the WFAN Caller set, who have been conditioned by years under Omar Minaya and Steve Phillips to expect a big ticket acquisition for Christmas each year. Better to take our medicine now than keep telling ourselves we're not sick. However, I think it will be possible to do this and still field a competitive team while coming in under budget. And that includes the biggest question to face the Mets in many years.
1. Resign Reyes
I honestly believe Jose Reyes wishes to remain a Met. I do not believe he is not an "Alderson-type" player, whatever that means. Apart from his pure value as a player, I believe this front office recognizes how much the loss of Reyes would hurt the psyche of the team and its fanbase, and how many empty seats and low TV ratings it would lead to. It will mean short-term payroll inflexibility, but that short term period will coincide with a period during which the Mets will not be just one or two Big Players away from competing for a title. I believe Reyes will still be worth his weight in gold when some of the bigger contracts of the Minaya years come off the books. Six years, $110 million is the figure I've seen mentioned the most when it comes to a competitive Reyes contract. Sounds good to me. Cut the man a check. How it's structured is of little concern to me, just pay the man.
2. Arbitration
Offer arbitration to Angel Pagan ($4.7 million) and Manny Acosta ($1 million). Both are serviceable at their respective positions and relatively inexpensive. Wave goodbye to Mike Pelfrey, Ronnie Paulino, and Taylor Buchholz, all of whom can be replaced or improved on at minimal expense. Pelfrey in particular I believe will command far more in arbitration, due to being a pitcher, than he should be worth in any sane world. We've already seen his ceiling and I don't think any pitching guru out there will be able to shape his raw clay into a masterpiece.
3. The Field
The Mets' lineup will have few surprises or additions. I'm assuming Ike Davis finally recovers from his mysterious ankle ailment to take back his spot at first base. Second will be something of a platoon between Daniel Murphy and Ruben Tejada. I'm not philosophically opposed to the idea of trading David Wright, but considering he's at the absolute nadir of his value, I don't think it'd be worth the great weeping and gnashing of teeth that would ensue. Shortstop is, hopefully, covered. The only real new addition would be Ramon Hernandez, who I think can be had for around $3 million, and will trade time with Josh Thole (though I'd expect Hernandez to get the bulk of it).
I pondered a bad-contract trade of Jason Bay for John Lackey, as I thought he might benefit from change of scenery and CitiField's dimensions, but Tommy John surgery intervened. So we're stuck with him for now, folks. Arbitration returns Pagan to center. Right will be manned mostly by Lucas Duda, though much like last season, I'd give occasional starts to Justin Turner and Nick Evans. Willie Harris would round out the bench.
With the returns of Davis and Reyes, a hopefully healthy year out of Wright, and the relocated walls, I'd expect this to be a decent lineup. For all the injuries and struggles they went through, the Mets scored plenty of runs last season, and I can see them doing the same with largely the same team in 2012.
4. Starting Pitching
Four of these slots are already taken care of: Johan Santana, R.A. Dickey, Jonathan Niese, and Dillon Gee. It's impossible to say if Santana will start the season on time or pitch through all of it, but you can't rule it out, either. Right? Right, you guys? Look, just say yes.
Chris Capuano had a surprisingly decent, healthy season, but I think it's possible to improve his slot without shelling out big bucks. My first target would be Javier Vazquez, who's had quietly strong seasons for everyone but the Yankees the past few seasons. He could be had for around $8 million, I believe. If he proves unattainable, I would go after another low price tag reclamation project not unlike Capuano or Chris Young; Rich Harden fits the bill and could probably be signed for around $2 million. Barring that, a well-traveled veteran coming off a good year. Bruce Chen anyone? Or perhaps another go at Livan Hernandez? $3 million would get either of them, I think. Hang on to Miguel Batistia for minor league depth.
5. Bullpen
Again, few surprises here. Acosta will return via arbitration. Tim Byrdak, Bobby Parnell, Daniel Herrera, Pedro Beato, and (unfortunately) D.J. Carrasco are already signed. Alderson made some noise about importing a closer, but it seems unwise to pay top dollar for one. I believe Takashi Saito, who had a pretty good year for Milwaukee mostly in setup duty, could be had for $3 million. Whether that makes him the "closer" or not could be hashed out in March/April.
Add that all up, whaddya get?
| Position | Player | $ (in millions) |
| C | Ramon Hernandez | 3 |
| 1B | Ike Davis | .4 |
| 2B | Ruben Tejada | .4 |
| SS | Jose Reyes | 18.3 |
| 3B | David Wright | 15.3 |
| LF | Jason Bay | 18 |
| CF | Angel Pagan | 4.7 |
| RF | Lucas Duda | .4 |
| Bench | Josh Thole | .4 |
| Bench | Daniel Murphy | .4 |
| Bench | Justin Turner | .4 |
| Bench | Nick Evans | .4 |
| Bench | Willie Harris | 1 |
| SP | Johan Santana | 24 |
| SP | R.A. Dickey | 4.8 |
| SP | Jonathan Niese | .4 |
| SP | Dillon Gee | .4 |
| SP | Javier Vazquez | 8 |
| RP | Manny Acosta | 1 |
| RP | Tim Byrdak | 1.2 |
| RP | Bobby Parnell | .4 |
| RP | D.J. Carrasco | 1.2 |
| RP | Pedro Beato | .4 |
| RP | Daniel Herrera |
.4 |
| RP | Takashi Saito | 3 |
Your total is a tidy $108.3 million, under the Mets' (alleged) limit of $110 million, with enough room for another bat for the bench (or two) if they decide to go with a smaller bullpen.
This is not a terrible team. Is it a playoff-bound team? I doubt it, but it's similar to one we all found quite enjoyable to watch this summer. And while payroll will be tight in the short term, it should loosen up by the time the Mets are ready to truly compete again. It reminds me of an unsexy but solid mid-size sedan, the kind you usually only see at airport car rental stations. It ain't pretty, but it'll get you there. Some time around 2014, by my estimation/hope.
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Not a bad plan
Playing it safe in most areas, and probably the most likely to actually happen. I’d like to see a little more money spent on the bullpen and send Beato, Herrera, and Carrasco down to AAA as depth, but that’s the only thing for me. I agree with you, I did enjoy last year’s team.
Resign Reyes
I’m resigned to losing Jose, but if he re-signed, I wouldn’t complain (at the right price, of course).
But 6y/$110 million? Wow. I wouldn’t do that. The Mets are probably three years away from being competitive. Not only that… I think Jose leaves unless the Mets outbid everyone by a good margin. You honestly think he’s going to turn down an opportunity to play with the Giants and compete for a championship to lose 85 games with the Mets for the next several years? Maybe. It’s doubtful, though. And the fact that the Mets will be cutting payroll probably won’t convince him that will change any time soon, either.
Other than that, I liked your plan. I liked that you kept Angel Pagan (who stands an excellent chance of bouncing back) and went after Javy Vazquez and Ramon Hernandez.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
6/$110M is only $3.3M more per year (on average) than what he made this past season.
And he has said several times that he loves NY and wants to stay here.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
According to Cot's, Jose's 2011 salary was 11M.
His AAV on the new deal would be 18.3M. That’s a rather significant raise.
Frankly, the term bothers me more than the AAV. Six years is a long time. I’d be shocked if he was still a SS in four years. He’s already a -5 defender over his last three years (2,500 innings) and he’s not all of a sudden going to become more durable as he enters his 30s.
Jose makes more sense for a team like the Giants because they really need to win now. If they decide to overpay (and it actually makes sense for them to do so), it would be a really bad idea for the Mets to match.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I stand corrected.
We should still re-sign him either way.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
The Giants ownership is hesitant to give out big FA contracts
since Rowand and Zito, and have to take care of Cain. Giants are probably not as big a threat for Reyes as we perceive…I think. Detroit on the other hand.
Ryan Miller was the true MVP. See my profile for rant.
They also have to sign Lincecum long term soon.
And Sandoval is hitting arbitration this offseason. I don’t think it’s totally out of range to think of them being involved, but they don’t seem like a legitimate option to me with all that money tied up.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
The Plan is OK, but...
…the bullpen is awful (Nathan or Francisco to close would have helped, plus a bit more).
by Steve OnceBrooklynNowMets on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
I don't understand why everyone wants Francisco...
He’s been terribly inconsistent every time he’s been given a closing opportunity he squanders it. I’m not signing him or Broxton only to hand the closing job over to either of them. At this point both are well below average MLB closers. I’d rather have K-Rod back, to be completely honest.
Krod Nathan or Lidge
or 2 of them cheap. Prob Nathan and Lidge as reclamation projects. I advocated that in my AAOP
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Oct 27, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a fan of any plan that brings back Reyes at 18 to 22 a yr.
The park being modified is my biggest gripe. I do not believe it will produce as many triples as in past years for Reyes and he is still a legs player that will be on the wrong side of 30 with 4 to 5 yrs left on the deal by the time the Mets are relevant again. Also resigning Wright to big Dollars after this year as he will be turning 30 is a mistake. They need to either wait out or make drastic moves to eliminate Bay and Santana and then buy the best young talent starting in 2012 offseason and continuing in the 2013 offseason when the farm has ripened enough that you know what you got and where to spend the money sureing up the roster with younger superstars that combined with the minor leaguers coming up you can expect to see play together as a real “coeur” for 5 to 6 years. Then when they are ready to take the payroll back to pre-Madoff levels you have a better chance of getting your moneys worth for the longterm.
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
I don't see how changing the park negatively effects Jose.
He didn’t seem to have much trouble hitting triples at Shea.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 27, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He also was younger and capable of stealing 70 to 80 bases then.
He is older and a few injuries later now.
Undefeated is the new "Winning".
Duh, undefeated....
by The real Julio from Paterson on Oct 27, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if he loses 5 triples a year (which still seems like a ludicrous position to take)
he’s still hitting 5 more doubles. Is the loss of 5 or so bases going ot make him horrible?
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
Or
Take those 5 triples away and give him 5 more HRs. I don’t think anyone will care if he hits fewer triples over the course of a season as long as he still gets on base. Even if he loses a step he’s still faster than your average player.
by crazycarLUXC on Oct 27, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does everyone think Reyes is all legs?
He is very good at the plate with elite K and contact rates.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
by Ogre39666 on Oct 27, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think six years is too much for Reyes
I wouldn’t go more than five. I love the guy, but you have to draw the line somewhere, and he’s just not worth a $100+ million contract with his shaky injury history. We’ve learned our lesson by now with bad contracts. However, I love this approach. I took a realistic shot in my AAOP as well, and I think the 2012 Mets are a transitional team that set up the 2013 and ’14 squads.
Speaking of my AAOP…I can’t figure out how to get my MS Paint to go into the FanPost. You have to insert photos from an existing URL, and of course since it’s MS Paint, it doesn’t have an existing URL. Can someone please help me out?
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There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
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It’s your own album and they give you a lot of space. I’d recommend them.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 27, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably the best we can do
I’m glad to see Nick Evans getting a shot (at .4) rrather than some garbage like Hirston for $1MM. Nick has proven he can do more than that waste of money.
I like this for several reasons:
1. It brings back Reyes.
2. It does not TRAID TEH KIDZ.
3. It makes everybody calling into or working at WFAN livid.
All of these are good things.
Good for the most part, but I don't like the bullpen
Beato needs another year in the minors, and Carrasco is better suited as a hot dog vendor at this point.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
eh
cant say I like the idea of Willie Harris back. Even if he wasnt aweful, he wasnt good. And since you had 2 mil extra, prob could have gotten someone better (I would rather have Pridie up).
Vasquez is retiring no? I guess its your AAOP and you can talk him out of it.
Bullpen… eh… If you are gonna just run with what we have, why not add in a high risk high reward kinda guy?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Like the really funny uncle with a healthy bourbon habit who matches every brilliant Thanksgiving story with one or two ill-advised racist jokes or boob grabs, we’re stuck with Melo. So we might as well learn to love him — quirks and all. http://knickerblogger.net/2011-report-card-carmelo-anthony/
I stopped reading after Livan
You should be banned for such a suggestion
I'd Take Pelfrey Over Bruce Chen
We can’t count on Santana, so we need someone who will eat innings further down the rotation. And we don’t have anyone close in the high minors.
Keep Pelfrey year-to-year on arbitration, until some of the Mets prospects knock him out.
I love Saito as set up
buT i would prefer to take my chances with Broxton as CL. Also, wouldn’t Bedard be better then Chen or Hernandez?
Budget Crap
First, when the METS traded K-Rod and Then Beltran they threw in the towel and our season was over.Second, It’s not how much you spend, but what you spend it on, that counts. The last time the METS paid for a bigname FA and didnt get the shaft was 1999, Mike Piazza. They call them impact players for a reason, they have one or two years to make an impact, then the window is closed. To not go after players that would improve th eteam simply becuase of the budget is just dumb. If the METS want people at the games they have to field a team that fans want to watch, and, above win, or, have a chance to win. I kinda like the current team, they fight and play hard and have heart, they need some piching and help in the pen. Bay needs to pull his head out of his rectum, and, we need REYES.
Right...because that Carlos Beltran guy was terrible in his time here.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 29, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

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