RBI & the Mets
by DWRIGHT5RULES on Oct 3, 2011 2:01 PM EDT
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PrintHi everyone, so I just want everyone to know that I took all of your advice since I last posted and am making an effort to right with proper spelling and grammar and all that, and also I learned about sabermagicians from watching moneyball (pretty good movie but not as good as my moneyballs, lol!) and from reading and I have learned a lot so I wanted to thank everyone for helping me and for being patient as catch up on the learning curve to you fine ladies and gents. And I am anxious to learn more. I am a sponge lol.
So I think the best article I red so far - and I am no proffessor, just a guy who likes baseball and actually WATCHES baseball unlike some of you sabermagicians. And I think the best article is the one on Mets Merised Online, and here is the article, and they prove some cool thinks, like RBI correlates more to runs scored than OBS. This is a really important thing because sabermagicians use OBS as if it were the only number (HELLO - IT DOESNT EVEN COUNT FIELDING LOL!), but anyone who ever WATCHED a game know s that RBI are more important. I mean, it is silly - what is more important to scoring a RUN than driving in a RUN! HELLOOOOOO????
And they dont use stupid projections that never work, they use real data that happened..
Now more proof: what was the most RBI on the Mets last year? 66 from Beltran. Im not saying it Beltrans fault, but really it is he shuld have more. Ok, next most, 61 from Wright. Than, Bay with 57. Do I have to go on? It stinks.
And what place did the Mets finish the Mets finished in 4th place.
The Phillies one. Who had the most RBI? Ryan Howard with 116. And what place did the Phillies finish? 1st place.
And the Yankees? Granderson had 118 RBI, Cano had 117 RBI and Texerai had 11 RBI. What place? First place is where the Yankees finished.
So we have evidence and mathematics and sabermagics and we know where the problem is. But I like to solv problems not just complain about them like whiny fans so here are my ideas.
Here are the top seven MLB players by RBI:
We should get them all. SImple as that. Trade Wright for ARod (3B), sign Manny (LF), sign Thome (DH), trade Ike David for Chipper (1B), sign Vlad (LF), sign Giambi (RF), sign IRod (C).
That may be a lot of money but will correlate to runs scored over career so much higher than the current team. We just need to fund a pitching stat to correlate to offensive runs scored so we can get them pitchers as well. I dont know, just thinking out loud.
And haters dont need to post in comments ok. I got tired of haters on my last post and I dont post garbage on all of your guys's posts too.
Larry
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OH MY GOD
The troll master does it again.
rec’d
by RADickeyinabox on Oct 3, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Genius...absolute genius.
My favorite part?
Trade Wright for ARod (3B), sign Manny (LF), sign Thome (DH), trade Ike David for Chipper (1B), sign Vlad (LF), sign Giambi (RF), sign IRod ©.
Giambi in RF is fantastic too but I just wish we didn’t have to trade Ike David…I guess Manny and Vlad will both bat 3rd and 6th in the lineup (or something like that).
Now that Metsmerized article, however…absolute slop with a capital S. The whole thing is flawed from the start, considering that runs and RBI are basically the same thing and you can’t have an RBI without a run being scored. Yeesh, that’s one of the worst things I’ve read in some time.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Metsmerized is fascinating
You can’t believe that the guy who writes that stuff hasn’t killed himself in a bathroom accident yet.
by Philip Larkin on Oct 3, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Gotta admit, it's not as funny this time, knowing it's a fraud
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I agree
Still funny but a lot less
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by Bobby Baseball on Oct 3, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this.
still mildly entertaining nonetheless.
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by SuperSantana on Oct 3, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The sad thing is
that MMO article is serious. Congrats, you proved that awarding an RBI occurs almost as frequently as awarding a run. WTF?
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by astromets on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
pretty funny but also the sad truth, maybe
so lets figure it. A good slugger will knock in 100 RBIs in a season, and a decent one 80+. So if a full season is 162 games or approximately 650 PA (4 per game), that means that a player has to average
1RBI/6.5 PA
Beltran 1 RBI/6.26 PA when he left NYM (full season 104)
Davis 1/ 5.84 PA (111)
Wright 1 RBI /7.23 PA (90) after injury 1/6.28 (104)
Duda 1/ 6.68 PA (97)
Murphy 1/8.47 (77)
Bay 1 RBI/ 8.77 PA ( 74)
Turner 1/9.29 (70) not bad for a rookie 2B
Pagan 1/9.32 (70)
Thole 1/9.45 (69) not bad for a rookie catcher
Tejada 1/10.08 (64)
Reyes 1/13.18 (49) not his job, 113 runs projected
so again the reason we have no big RBI numbers is injury/games played
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Oct 3, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No
A good slugger will knock in 100 RBIs in a season, and a decent one 80+.
Individual skill has very little to do with RBI totals. Put Ryan Howard on the Houston Astros, and his RBI total goes down dramatically. Does this mean he’s a different player? No. There are just fewer people on base when he’s up at bat.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 3, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
we had a lot of guys on base
OBP of .335 to PHL .323
Ryan Howard hit .288 with 78 RBI in 193 PA with RISP 1 RBI/2.47 PA
and .298 with runners on and 97 RBI in 317 PA 1RBI/3.27
total 116 RBI 1/5.45
Wright .255 RISP with 43 RBI/124 PA or 1/2.88, runners on .305 56/218 or 1/3.89
Duda .238 with 36/101 or 1/2.80 RISP, runners on .285/ 43/165 or 1/3.84
Turner .350/46/123 or 1/2.67 with RISP, runners on .333/49/207 or 1/4.22
Howard numbers are slightly better when broken down by PA but not overwhelmingly
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by Rickfansince76 on Oct 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You realize it matters what the OBP is for the people AHEAD of Ryan during that particular inning
Overall OBP doesn’t matter much in regards to this discussion.
I.e. it matters how often you come to the plate in RBI situations. That’s something that’s worth looking into. RBI Rate, rather than RBI is a much more useful stat.
by Mike Clemente on Oct 3, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said
You said:
A good slugger will knock in 100 RBIs in a season, and a decent one 80+.
I said:
Individual skill has very little to do with RBI totals…
If more people get on base in front of a hitter, his RBI totals will be higher. If fewer people get on base in front of a hitter, his RBI totals will be lower. Accruing large RBI totals is totally dependent on people getting on base in front of a hitter (he is only adding his own solo home runs to his RBI accumulation, by driving himself in). Ryan Howard on the Phillies might knock in 100 RBI, and Ryan Howard on the Astros might knock in 80, while putting up the same exact stats.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 3, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew when I saw who posted this that it would be good.
Well done, Eric Simon/KANNONLAZER/Sam Page (I forget who we decided DWRIGHT5RULES is).
by Shevshevy on Oct 3, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It's DandySalderson
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 3, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No
This isn’t as good. Its still funny but lets not make this a regular occurrence or else it will lose its luster.
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by Bobby Baseball on Oct 3, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i missed the last greenvalanche
this is all i’m going to get. where is dandy?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
at first I was like
“Are you for reals? This is a joke right?”
Then I saw who wrote this…
Nice post bro. Was going really strong till the end
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It's the internet, so it's possible people are different in real life than they are online
But Metsie has to be the biggest idiot in the world.
I really want to meet him
just so I an compare the mental image I have of him to the real thing.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
Same here
The comments are fantastic. Pretty unusual for such a complete moron to have that much confidence,
by Dandy Salderson on Oct 3, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
Yes
I am waiting for the follow up: correlating water to wetness.
by Dandy Salderson on Oct 3, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Were MMO articles always called Fan Shots?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha, Bayonne Mets Fan is the epitome of awesome
Now go back to your arrogant, mean-spirited statistically driven site run by Neil Simon and Jakes Kaammaerkla..or however the hell you spell his name. Your Sandy Alderson statue needs some polishing and oh while your there kneel in front of it and hope for a better off season than
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
If by "awesome" you mean ignorant, stubborn, dolt.
I think it's fine.
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 4, 2011 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
wow
It’s hard to imagine someone that uncouth coming from Bayonne.
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by murdertron3000 on Oct 4, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
here, you forgot these
@ @
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
d'oh!
that was intentional
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by murdertron3000 on Oct 9, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Calling him that is not right
You just unsulted ignorant, stubborn, dolts everywhere.
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The image is just too small to see whether your Sandy Alderson statue needs polishing.
I also didn’t realize there were actually two Jakes.
Neil Simon?
I didn’t realize Eric was a playwright!
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Amazing
And… my new sig. It has everything – a misplaces apostrophe, a premise void of any logic and an explanation point!
"RBI’s does measure something – Wins."
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by Dandy Salderson on Oct 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No RANDOM exclaimation marks, either
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 12, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The poster "made name bc ur stupid" on MMO has to be someone from here.
And I love how Metsie says “co-relates” instead of “correlates”.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
Now that it's not the middle of the night, I went back to the article to re-read it
What is the poster saying? That RBI are runs scored are unrelated, and that OBP has no correlation to scoring?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Metsie elaborates (from the comments, the reading of which is causing my brain to disintegrate)
I know it is widely accepted that OBP is the key to success.
I on the other hand think it is a problem of reverse causation.
getting HIGH OBP is an indicator of doing something well.
Not run scoring but in general your batters are doing something positive. I have issues with the fact that OBP includes things that the batter does not accomplish or is unrelated to the batter’s actual ability because it includes getting hit by a pitch and the intentional walk.
It doesn’t take great talent to get beaned!
So as an arbiter of who is good and who is better OBP fails because it equates NOT TALENT accomplishment into a stat being used to judge talent!
I don’t need OBP and SLG to tell if a guy is good.
BA will tell me what he hits, RBI will tell me what he drives in and really what kind of hit drives in those runs is not important! Because if it isn’t a HR then he is on base and the NEXT big RBI guy I have behind him should drive him in!
OBs don’t guarantee a score, Can be erased as easily as they get recorded and in some case what is counted an OB is less desirable (such as the case of runner on 2nd 1 out) that puts the force out at 3rd and the double play into the situation.)
If we want to improve on INDIVIDUAL players BA will tell me everything I need to know about his ability to not make an out in regards to scoring a run and his RBI will tell me how well he drives in the opportunities to drive in runs.
In the example given by someone for Giants. ZThe gy had 85 RBI. If they replaced him with someone who had 100 RBI you would have gotten all those runs they wanted but didn’t get from that player.
But getting someone who has a high OBP could have meant a drop in RBI and that would have made the situation worse not better!
If we are going to judge players then we need to use stats that are not accelerated by defensive indifference or pitcher poochscrewing!
OBP wil almost ALWAYS be higher than BA and in the few cases it isn’t is because the guy hit a bunch of Sac Flys’s which either scored a run or advanced a runner!
So I really don’t care that his OBP is lower or close to his BA if his BA is good!
At least I know the player gave me what I was looking at not the defense or the pitcher!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
Funny.
I have issues with the fact that OBP includes things that the batter does not accomplish or is unrelated to the batter’s actual ability because it includes getting hit by a pitch and the intentional walk.
That’s his hangup? The average player gets hit with a pitch & intentionally walked in total maybe 10 times a season at the most in like 500+ plate appearances. Should we really deride an entire statistic based on something that happens less than 2% of the time? Not to mention that many people believe that HBPs are in fact a repeatable skill.
I don’t even know why I’m looking at this…it’s beyond dumb.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 4, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Metsie seems to have a big problem understanding generalities versus specifics.
He also seems to have trouble with correlation. Runs and RBI are related like exhaling is to inhaling. Runs and OBP are related like breathing is to living. This subtlety is lost on him. Really it not even that subtle, but he just goes in their with the sludgehammer of 1:1 relation and anything that falls short of that is wrong and stupid.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
Reverse causation!
It sounds like words that make sense, but actually giraffe uncouth multivariate!
by anonymous on Oct 5, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Hahaha reverse causation.
That’s truly an amazing concept. It’s impossible to even put in words what it would have to mean. Something like: some event X causing the very event Y which preceded event X.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
So...
He doesn’t like OBP because it factors in HBPs and intentional BBs (both of which happen minimally to most players), and, as a stat, it should be downplayed because getting on base doesn’t immediately result in a run being scored, and since RBI record just that, we should give RBI primacy?
Am I getting this right?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats it
I guess the root issue is that he doesnt understand that accounting for a historical event and evaluating overall historical/predictive performance are not the same thing.
"RBI’s does measure something – Wins."
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by Dandy Salderson on Oct 5, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And, it's not a joke, right?
Really hoping it is- I don’t know any of the personalities of the posters, there.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as I know
He is a real person and dead serious.
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by Dandy Salderson on Oct 5, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a real moran.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 5, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
obp is important especially for top of the order guys
slugging not so much. for me batting average, steals and obp is what i look at in a leadoff guy, while homers, SLG and RBIs are good for your power guys. Crafting a batting order is a science. In the moneyball movie they talk about OBP, and I understand its important, especially for the A’s who had just lost Giambi (i believe he lead the league in that stat his last year in oakland) but we all know thats not ALL you should look at. Lets not forget that the movie didn’t go into full detail about what Beane and Brand were doing in oakland to replace those guys
that is pretty awesome
I guess Depodesta has less to worry about his image than he thought with this fake guy in it
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 13, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Basically Metsie's theory is that Runs and RBI are much closer to a 1:1 relationship than OBP and Runs.
Now any logical person who see that Runs and RBI have to be by definition close to a 1:1 relationship. Basically he spent a lot of time researching a tautology. He’s so married to this idea that Runs and RBI are so close to a 1:1 relationship that he can’t see the pitfalls of his idea.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Keep Reyes, Trade Wilpon.
by Ogre39666 on Oct 4, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
it is like he is seriously just being a troll
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i agree-runs don't always equal rbis
Take a leadoff hitter for example. He can have tons of runs but rely on the meat of the order to drive him in
The article in question was comparing team Runs and team RBI's.
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I keep getting this mental image
HELLOOOO???? EARTH TO MEEKUS Like don’t you know that RBI is better than “OBS”
EARTH TO BRENT Like Duhh I knew that OK????
EARTH TO MEEKUS I don’t think you did because you were all like “I’ve seen Moneyball OK” like you didn’t know RBIs are better!
by crazycarLUXC on Oct 4, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Mine is more like this
One day, this team is going to kill me.
by fxcarden on Oct 4, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read it, and I was all like
Oh, Brett…
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Some gamethreads got trolled by a Braves fan named Brett.
In short time, people just started replying to him with “Oh, Brett”, and otherwise ignoring him.
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 4, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this poster has great moneyballs!
i lol’ed my way through that. nice work.
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We should get them all. SImple as that. Trade Wright for ARod (3B), sign Manny (LF), sign Thome (DH), trade Ike David for Chipper (1B), sign Vlad (LF), sign Giambi (RF), sign IRod ©.
Why didn’t I think of that?!
Thank you DWRIGHT5RULES, you’re the tits!
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Any plan that trades away Ike David, I'm not fan of it
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 4, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Me neither especially , but think of it—we could have Chipper Jones!
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
I get it!
The Mets had more runs than the Philles this year, but the Phillies got more wins because they had more RBIs than the Mets. It makes perfect sense!
You don't cheer for the Mets. You drink for the Mets.
by Kevin H on Oct 5, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Should things like Pythagorean W/Ls and runs allowed:runs scored, and all that be brought up to completely explode/implode minds?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Or just dropping stats like this
2011 team totals:
CIN: 697 RBIs
COL: 697 RBIs
MIL: 693 RBIs
PHI: 693 RBIs
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Guys you are missing the point
Jeter can reach base on an error but that doesn’t count positively for his OBP, but if Arod drives him in then it does count positively for his RBI total. See the point here is that Jeter should be rewarded for reaching base but OBP doesnt give that to him. Now Arod he certainly did his job as well as Jeter, but no you sabermusicians don’t want to give Jeter any credit because you are HATERS and you are just jealous that the Mets don’t have any rings like Jeter. So does Jeter have a good OBP no he doesn’t because you won’t give it to him, but he does have WORLD SERIES RINGS and that is all that counts, so I guess you are your fancy OBP are actually negative rings! its so simple I cant believe you are still missing it
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by Bobby Baseball on Oct 5, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Oh
Okay, in that context, it all makes sense now!
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 5, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
(slap)
i new it maded sences somhowe!
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Jeter can drive in runs
we need, like the op said, more RBI guys. I agree, although the particular players he proposed (no offense!) seem unrealistic and some r too old imo
Facepalm.
There’s no such thing as an RBI guy because everybody can be an RBI guy. This old baseball platitude you’re talking about is non-existent fantasy world stuff.
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by Steve Schreiber on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You realize the OP was a satire, right?
i can only hope you’re joining in on the fun
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by Terry_is_God on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I see now that you are new here and the joke was pointed out to you below
I now feel like a schmuck. Welcome!
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by Terry_is_God on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe this is dandy salderson
"it's not easy being green"-kermit the frog
"we the mets are an improved ball club, now we lose in extra innings"-casy stengel
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Reading the comments om Metmerized
makes my head hurt.
by SwedeMet on Oct 11, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I don't get it
If RBI and Runs are the same, then why does Reyes have 101 Runs but only 44 RBI? I think I may have punched a hole in that theory.
by CervezaVerde on Oct 11, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Because he is a fast runner but a bad hitter
Duh
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by Bobby Baseball on Oct 11, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to get those players but is it realistic
as muchas i would love to have all those rbi leaders, at what cost, and some are pretty old. Ask me, unrealistic!
FYI, this is a joke post.
He’s not being serious – the Mets should not make any effort to acquire any of those players.
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by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 13, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
gotcha, im new here
figured that there were some inside jokes going on that post after reading through the replys. And anyone really advocating those moves needed to get those guys doesn’t know the game
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 13, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel deprived
for having missed this and the even more fantastic MMO post.
Gotta love Bayonne!! “RBI’s measures wins” Yes, RBI and lets not forget batting average (don’t you dare talk OBP) are the only important stats out there. Gotta use those stats…unless of course we are talking about David Wright and his career .300 AVG his season avg of 100+ RBI/yr…then in that case those stats are meaningless…unless we are talking about David Wright this season, then batting average suddenly becomes very important again.
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