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Mets Winter League Hitters Update - Halloween Edition

OF Juan Lagares is currently leading the AFL in batting at .432.

Time for another temperature check in the winter leagues (pun intended as I'm still digging out and the temp in my powerless home now drops below 40 degrees). We've got a couple of interesting new additions -- not to mention departures -- among the winter league ranks to check in on this week. Plus, there's the customary hot hitters complemented by the requisite stinkers as well. Not much significant action among the active pitchers since our last check so let's focus strictly on the position players this time around:

Josh Satin (VWL - Caracas)

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As I mentioned, we had a rather notable departure this week as Josh Satin found a pink slip on his locker down in VZ, ending his run with the Leones. He was in a pretty hefty batting slump tallying just one hit in his last 26 ab's, but it should be noted that he still collected 17 walks -- versus 16 K's -- which was good enough for a .407 OBP in his 14 games as a Leone. But as we all know, you don't bring in a ringer in to clog the bases...

Although if we're being honest, probably the final straw for him didn't happen at the plate. It was his 12th inning misplay of a ball out in left -- where he's played exclusively and for the first time this fall -- which put Caracas behind for good in their loss on Saturday. Anytime that happens it's not good but this time was during the first meeting of the year between the Leones and their most hated of rivals from Magallanes. Some actually call it the greatest rivalry in sports; pretty interesting article about it here. Not coincidentally, Satin wouldn't appear in another game for Caracas.

 

Juan Lagares (AFL - Peoria)

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So you remember when I mentioned hot hitters? Yeah, that's Lagares right now. All he's done is collect at least one hit in each of his eight games, more than one hit in six of them, extra-base hits in six of them. He's currently leading the circuit in hitting and he's top five in OPS as well. It's a gd shame that he's on the twice-a-week taxi squad because he's jumped on to my short list of guys I'm really curious to see get more at bats. I'm not as judicious as jp; I like Lagares a lot.

Also of note, MLB.com sat Peoria/St. Lucie Mets Manager Pedro Lopez down to discuss the Mets position players out in AZ. There's some interesting video of these guys both at the dish as well as in the field, plus some good insight from a guy who's managed many of these players for a couple of seasons now.

Lopez on Lagares:

"He's done some great things...he's a good outfielder, he can play all three outfield positions. At the plate...Lagares has been that example of a guy that used to swing at a lot of pitches outside of the strike zone. Even last year in 2010, he had a good year for me in Savannah before he went off to St. Lucie, but he would just swing at too much out of the strike zone.  This year he's able to do a better job managing the strike zone and it's paid off for him.

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3B Jefry Marte (AFL - Peoria)

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Speaking of hot hitters, Marte is another one swinging a good bat right now. In fact he just ended a very nice seven-game hit streak that saw him bat .385 with a pair of homers and a trio of doubles. Even better, he walked six times in that span versus just two strikeouts, which has been the story of his fall season so far. Yes it's a small sample, but he's shown signs of this kind of development before -- for example, the first half of 2011 -- and hey, I'd still rather see it now in a small sample than not at all.

Defensively, he's been seeing some time at first base, which is new for him. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he's nursing something minor as he hasn't appeared in a game since Friday.

Lopez on improving Marte's plate discipline:

"By preaching it every day. Keep mentioning it out there to him...These guys don't feel like they have to swing at everything, especially with two strikes...[Marte] has done a great job so far, he's still working on some things mechanically. But his approach is solid at the plate and I'm looking forward to seeing him keep improving."

 

SS Wilmer Flores (VWL - Margarita)

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I also mentioned some stinkers. Flores has sunken from his .200 average at last check thanks to a 3-for-20 stretch. He's still got just one XBH -- a double -- in 15 games thus far and he's sporting a rough 4:13 BB-to-K rate. Things aren't going well at the dish.

However, the interesting thing is in the field, where he's not only played a lot of third -- his probably long-term home -- but suddenly he's been seeing some time at second base, which is something completely new for him as a pro. That in itself makes it interesting. However, I must point out that this is probably less about the Mets than it is the Bravos, who now have four 3B -- and just one 2B -- on the roster. It's no coincidence that Flores shifted over the same day Arizona's Sean Burroughs showed up. But hey, can't hurt to let him try a new position since we know shortstop isn't gonna work.

 

SS Wilfredo Tovar (AFL - Peoria)

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Tovar has really gotten things going since our last check, increasing his average from a hollow .269 up to a more robust .315, on the strength of his last ten-game stretch where he's had at least one hit in all but one game and he's batting .385 over that time. Even more promising is the .590 SLG he's shown in that span, which has been one of the biggest weaknesses in his game, especially as he retains his extremely good contact skills.

Tovar has also been seeing most of his time at second base thus far as it sounds like the org. is satisfied with his play at short and him wants to maintain his defensive flexibility, which is always a good idea.

Lopez on Tovar:

"...Everywhere he's been in our system, he's played shortstop. There's no doubt that he can play out there. I think they want to see him more at second base, see whether he can go out there and play. He's done a great job so far...he's got great hands. Now you've got a shortstop playing second base with shortstop range and shortstop arm and he's another guy putting up some good numbers and having quality at bats.

 

SS Jordany Valdespin (DWL - Licey)

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Another quiet week from the toolsy infielder, who has been playing pretty much every other day for the DWL powerhouse Licey club. Some days he's even just pinch-hitting making it tough for him to get going, though it's still nice to see the 1:1 BB-to-K rate thus far. On the other side of the ball, he was featured a lot more at second base this week. It's starting to seem interchangeable between short and second for Valdespin at this point.

 

C Juan Centeno (AFL - Peoria)

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Centeno's been seeing a lot more game-action of late -- whether behind the plate or as a DH -- and it's showed in his batting line. He's boosted his overall totals by going 10 for his last 20 and first-hand observers have been impressed by his work defensively.

Lopez on Centeno:

"He's what? 5'9" probably, he's got good hands behind the plate, he can block, he's a good receiver and also for a kid his size he's got an above-average arm. He's a catch-and-throw guy...Offensively he had a great year for us in St. Lucie, put up some good numbers...He's another guy that offensively, it's mainly working on some things but mainly it's just a great experience for some of these young hitters being in a league like this where the competition is so tough."

To Lopez' point about Centeno's...slight stature, I've got to highlight this pretty funny image of Centeno standing on first base and being dwarfed by first base coach, 6'3" Rob Carson, who looks bigger than that when you stand next to him:

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SS Juan Carlos Gamboa (LMP - Loc Mochis)

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I'm officially drinking the Kool-Aid on Gamboa who is batting .448 over his prior ten games. He now stands at second in the league in batting as well as OPS -- just ahead of Mike Jacobs. Even better, like Tovar he's continued to show surprising pop knocking two more bombs in his last four games. He's becoming my top pick of players currently in this system to step into the legitimate prospect realm in 2012.

 

OF Pedro Zapata (DWL - Licey)

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The 24-year old Zapata has boosted his average on the strength of a current eight-game hit streak which corresponds to the time that he began getting nearly regular playing time. He's no stud but Zapata seems to perform admirably regardless of level and thanks to his good athleticism fits the fifth outfielder mold nicely.

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Great to see Tovar and Gamboa swinging the bats so well....

Tovar seems to have months when he doesn’t hit at all and then months when he causes excitement. Weird to be so streaky for a contact, non-power type hitter, but if he can get consistant as the Good-Tovar he’s going to rise. Thanks for the great update.

by Cranky50 on Oct 31, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone speak Spanish?

In that article about the Magallanes/Caracas rivalry, linked in the Josh Satin blurb, there’s a video where K-Rod gives up a game-tying bottom of the ninth homer. But before that, the announcers are saying something about “Los Mets” and then “Quien sabe?” (Who knows?) I want to know what they’re saying.

by JohnPeterson on Oct 31, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

What do we have in Jaun Centeno?

a prospect, future backup, or lightning today, gone tomorrow?

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!

by astromets on Oct 31, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

centeno

future backup at best. a 21-year old at any level with just 2 career homers is REALLY tough to project as a starter at the major league level. however, he’s definitely worth watching. at this point, we should just be hoping that he maintains his good plate discipline and strong contact ability as he climbs the ladder and begins to resemble a right-handed version of josh thole with better defensive ability.

by Rob Castellano on Nov 1, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this was the type of hitter Tovar always was, we would have another solid MI prospect..

That was nice to read about Lagares though, considering I have usually read he has poor plate discipline. Except for one stint in 09, his K% has always been above to well above average – couldn’t we take this as a sign of his superior contact skills? With his speed (10 SB in final 38 games at AA), it would be great if he could walk a lot, but as long as he is not striking out a lot, he will get his hits. The difference is, the Lagares who learns to walk will get a number of chances to start, and always can be around as a 4th OF, while the guy who doesn’t learn to walk will need to quickly and continuously impress, but is probably still given a number of 4th OF jobs due to defensive rep

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!

by astromets on Oct 31, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

i think your point about his contact skills — or more inclusively, his hit tool — is right on. lagares has clearly proven over the past calendar year that he is a very good outright hitter. the problem is that the attrition rate of that skill is a lot higher as a player moves up the ranks than say plate discipline skills.

think of lastings milledge who clearly showed some good hitting ability in the low-to-mid minors, but was really exposed as he got higher. it’s rare to see the hitter who can maintain the same levels of offensive production once he reaches the majors, at least right out of the gate. even more so when that player is relying entirely on pure hitting ability, and not so much on plate discipline. obviously you need the first for the second to be relevant but it’s a much harder go when you only have one.

by Rob Castellano on Nov 1, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

leonas or Venezuela

You Are Dead To Me!!

Big fan of the Assassinate Kevin Burkhardt Society

by scott from peekskill on Oct 31, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets try again with some editing

Leonas of Venezuela

You Are Dead To Me!!!

Big fan of the Assassinate Kevin Burkhardt Society

by scott from peekskill on Oct 31, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lagers

Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.

by JoeBighead on Oct 31, 2011 10:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry. New to mobile commenting.

Laggers looks promising and I’m gonna love to see him in the outfield sometime post-Jason bay era. Perhaps early.
And centeno would be a nice addition behind the plate and in the lineup, especially after the poor offensive and defensive play we’ve seen from Thole.

Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.

by JoeBighead on Oct 31, 2011 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*lagares

Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.

by JoeBighead on Oct 31, 2011 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, he's serious - check the top of the page.

Besides, it’s not their call, it’s up to the local team.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Nov 1, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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