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Comparing The Mets' And Braves' Collapse Apology E-Mails

Talking Chop posted the e-mail that Braves President John Schuerholz sent to fans following their Metsian collapse in September this season. It reminded of the e-mail the Mets sent out after Game 162 in 2007. Here is a comparison of the two messages. First up is the Mets' message, which I've dug out of my e-mail archives:

Dear Mets Fan:

All of us at the Mets are bitterly disappointed in failing to achieve our collective goal of building upon last year's success. We did not meet our organization's expectations -- or yours. Everyone at Shea feels the same range of emotions as you -- our loyal fans -- and we know we have let you down. We wanted to thank you for your record-breaking support of our team this year.

Equally important, Ownership will continue its commitment in providing the resources necessary to field a championship team. Omar will be meeting with Ownership shortly to present his plan on addressing our shortcomings so that we can achieve our goal of winning championships in 2008 and beyond.

You deserve better results.

Many thanks again for your record-breaking support.

The New York Mets

Timing: The e-mail was sent October 1st, 2007, the day after the Mets' final game.

Salutation: "Dear Mets Fan." It's like receiving junk mail addressed to "Valued Customer".

Negative words: "bitterly disappointed", "failing", "let you down", "shortcomings"

Player references: None.

General manager references: Omar has a plan and he likes his plan.

Valediction: "The New York Mets." The entire organization sent this message.

Overall thoughts: The Mets took action quickly, sending the e-mail when the hurt of the final game was still fresh. This sent a message that the front office and ownership were just as stung by the collapse as fans. They couldn't sit around doing nothing -- they needed to communicate something.

Unfortunately, the execution of the e-mail is poor. It comes off more like a mass press release rather than a personal note to the fans, as if Fred Wilpon asked an intern to write up a brief 100 word message to send out. And do it posthaste, intern! If someone from ownership signed the message, it might be more effective. Remember that this was pre-Madoff, and the Wilpons were not nearly as loathed four years ago as they are today. Some support for the star players who carried the team all season, and were subsequently ridiculed for not being leaders or whatnot, would be welcome too. The general sentiment of the e-mail is appreciated though.

Here is the Braves' apology:

Star-divide

Dear [first name of fan -- in the case of Talking Chop, "Martin"],

On behalf of the entire Braves organization, I would like to thank you for all of the great support you showed us this season. Your continued involvement in this team plays a pivotal role in our ability and drive to succeed. While there were many exciting moments during our 2011 season, unfortunately, we fell short of our ultimate goal. Together, we share in the disappointment and frustration of how and when this season ended.

For a majority of the season we owned one of the four best records in baseball. We had five members of our team representing the Braves at the All-Star Game, and we had the two best rookies in the league on our team - either Kimbrel or Freeman will surely win the Rookie of the Year Award. We witnessed an historic hitting streak by Dan Uggla and his incredible defense all year. Throughout the season, we began to see the remarkable depth of talent in our young players.

However, our performance in the month of September was unacceptable to all in the organization, and we will evaluate and analyze our missteps to do all we can to prevent this from happening again. Our General Manager, Frank Wren, and his staff have already begun to evaluate our team and will be focusing throughout the off-season on building upon the strengths of this team and repairing our weaknesses to achieve our goal.

Like you, I am very proud of the history and achievements of your Atlanta Braves organization. However proud we are of that legacy, I would like to reiterate to you that our focus is on the future and our goal for next season is to win a World Championship for you, our loyal fans.

Once again, I appreciate all you do to support the Braves organization and team. I truly hope you will continue to be part of the great atmosphere and community we all share in Braves Country.

Sincerely,

John Schuerholz
President
Atlanta Braves

Timing: The e-mail was sent October 6th, 2011, about a week after the Braves' final game.

Salutation: "Dear [first name of fan]". A program is obviously used to plug the recipient's name into the e-mail but at least an effort is made towards personalization.

Negative words: "fell short", "disappointment", "frustration", "unacceptable", "missteps", "weaknesses"

Player references: Youngsters Craig Kimbrel and Freddie Freeman earn shoutouts. Dan Uggla receives effusive praise to the point of absurdity:

We witnessed an historic hitting streak by Dan Uggla and his incredible defense all year.

(emphasis mine)

That's incredible, as in "genocide is incredible!", as opposed to "the Amazin' Avenue Annual is incredible!"

General manager references: Frank Wren and the upcoming offseason he will spend repairing weaknesses is mentioned. Some weaknesses Wren would be wise to ship to the Mets include:

Valediction: "Sincerely, John Schuerholz." Despite the paucity of World Series titles for his team over the last two decades, Schuerholz is respected by Braves fans for his work as architect of all those playoff teams. Receiving the message from him and not just "The Atlanta Braves" provides some minor reassurance that there is someone competent supervising.

Overall thoughts: The Braves' e-mail is the opposite of the Mets' -- the execution is strong but the timing is poor. The mentions of young players hint at the Braves' bright future, which they certainly have. It carries a more hopeful tone than the Mets' e-mail. However, it was sent as the two NLDS series were heating up, reminding fans of the collapse in the heart of the postseason they won't have. Composing something before the playoffs started would have been advisable. Additionally, adding "P.S. [incompetent manager] has been relieved of his duties" would have been a good idea in both the Mets' and Braves' cases.

The idea of a professional sports team apologizing for its performance is a bit comical, yet somehow refreshing, considering most governments and corporations rarely show public remorse for their mistakes. It won't go a long way towards assuaging the hurt of collapse but it's better than nothing.

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Fuck the Braves

They’re now the new chokers of the NL East

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by BlueChill on Oct 7, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Sigh
Omar will be meeting with Ownership shortly to present his plan on addressing our shortcomings so that we can achieve our goal of winning championships in 2008 and beyond.

"RBI’s does measure something – Wins."
-Bayonne Mets Fan on MMO

by Dandy Salderson on Oct 7, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

It's that period of calm before disaster strikes

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Oct 7, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

at least we know what his plan was…

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Oct 7, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And BTW

what the heck was that band aid incident about last night? Can’t believe Gerardi had the ump go out to the mound to demand he rip off that bandage.

Jeeze, no band aids, covering of arm tatoos – what next? Is some ump gonna demand Herrara cut his hair next year because it sticks out so much from under that cap?

Gotta love baseball.

by MetsFan4Decades on Oct 7, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I'm old enough

to have been around for the first miracle run, let alone the second….I can’t say that I ever remember an apology or ‘reaching out’ to Met fans in any of the newspapers, back in the day.

With the advent of newer technology, obviously they’ve got more choices and an opportunity to connect more with the fan base. The fact that they’ve recognized the blogging world as an important media tool now for that fan base connection at least means they’re trying. As to the apology letter from 2007, maybe they just needed a better PR guy drafting that.

by MetsFan4Decades on Oct 7, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

this postseason will be complete

with a phillies’ game 5 meltdown tonight. anything after that is gravy.

by jhMLB on Oct 7, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

This, 1000 times this

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Oct 7, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

if this comes to pass

Are you a wizard?

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Oct 7, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's a wizard! Burn him!

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Oct 7, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont take any offense to this

But how about you shut up with this collapse crap, its been 5 years. The comparison is just ridiculous, the braves not only had a chance to learn from our failure, but the whole mets front office has changed now. We all know Omar and his team were incompetent we don’t need reminder of that. What we should do is look forward to our future because the team is in rebuilding mode not “win now.”

Seriously the Braves just fucking collapsed, they’re the biggest joke in the division right now. But instead of laughing at them you want us to feel bad about ourselves? C’mon!

Braves suck and Chipper is Dead (metaphorically) Hallelujah!!!!!

by newyorksportsfan on Oct 7, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Only four years since the first collapse, three since the second.

I wish they’d shut up about the 1986 championship. Now THAT’S been forever! The collapses are still current events.

by Curtis3331 on Oct 7, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008 was not a collapse

It was a good, not great team that went head to head with the Phillies all year, and then unfortunately Luis Ayala became our closer.

by SuperT on Oct 7, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toi be fair. the bullpen sucked a big one before Ayala was acquired

That said, my goodness did he suck and boy did he kill the team down the stretch. As for as the team pushing the team all year well not really. He Mets playesd pretty crappy Baseball until late June or early July that year. The ten game winning streak put thenm in the hunt.

by graves9 on Oct 7, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's just an interesting comparison

on a slow (Mets) news day. Gives us something to chat about.

I’m pretty sure no one is demanding you feel sorry for yourself, etc.

by BurleighGrimes on Oct 7, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously, I preferred the Mets' apology.

The Braves’ would have been better if they’d omitted the second and fourth paragraphs. I see no point (contra James’ opinion) of dragging the players into an apology. If I owned a coat factory and failed to meet a contract deadline, my apology note wouldn’t mention the factory workers, who’d probably prefer not to be dragged into my fiasco. Also, the Mets’ ‘contrition phrases’ were stronger; I got a vague feeling that the Braves were trying to softpeddle and defuse, which I didn’t from the Mets.

I do agree with James that the personal salutation and valediction look better, though ‘The New York Mets’ gives a kind of feeling that ‘we all screwed up, and we’re all sorry’, not just one man. Also, it’s in keeping with the ‘family feeling’ the Wilpons were trying to promote back then. This wasn’t too many years after the ‘They can’t win it without you’ ad campaign, which I loved.

On the whole, the Mets’ e-mail impressed me; the Braves’ did not. Maybe I was the target audience (though I didn’t receive one).

by Curtis3331 on Oct 7, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the Mets email better

It’s just a short, day-after recognition that this horrible, horrible thing happened. The Braves email seems more of a distraction attempt – hey, look at these young players we’ve got, pay no attention to the giant collapse! It may have been put together by somebody who knows how to merge in a set of names, but it’s more straight marketing effort, rather than something that somebody felt was a necessary response to how the set of names was feeling in that terrible moment.

by SuperT on Oct 7, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree

The Mets’ one was more like, “Look, we’re just as pissed off as you are right now!” This actually makes more of a, “We’re all in this together” feeling. The Braves’ was more of, “We’re sorry you are missing 5 #2 screws from that coffee table from IKEA.”

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Oct 7, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's allowed

He’s a Yankees fan, and it’s not like the Nationals are doing anything meaningful right now.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not only a Yankees fan but

A Lakers fan, Cowboys fan and Duke fan. We all know at least one douche like that, don’t we?

by Philip Larkin on Oct 7, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

That’s a super front-runner.

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Oct 7, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the menality that a person has to have to be like that

I mean, I’m not much of a basketball fan, but I’m a Nets fan because they’re Brooklyn now, but were local before that. I don’t follow soccer at all, but I know there’s the Red Bulls, and they’re either NY or Jersey, so I theoretically want them to win. I’m a bigger hockey and football fan, and root for my regional teams so being ambivalent doesn’t really apply there, but I don’t get how a person doesn’t de facto root for whatever the closest local team is, in whatever sport, when they’re not really a fan of anyone in particular.

"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have massive distaste for the local teams and their fans

This is why I’m not a fan of the Reds/White Sox/Cubs or whoever, because screw those teams.

WRITTEN IN THE STAAAAARS, A MILLION MILES AWAAAAAAY

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by Thomas Wachtel on Oct 7, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can kind of see it, not that I approve.

I’m from northern New York, and the Mets and Jets were the first two professional teams I rooted for, but that may’ve been because I started following sports in 1969. After Namath left the Jets I shifted over to the Steelers, then lost interest in football when they faded.

I was only passively interested in hockey until the Islanders got good (a couple of years before their first Stanley Cup), then lost interest entirely when they went downhill. I was never interested in Soccer.

I became aware of basketball the year the Knicks set the consecutive game won record, but it wasn’t until the next season when the Bucks drafted Jabbar and traded for Oscar Robertson that I picked a team, and then it was the Bucks… until I switched to the Chamberlin/Baylor/West Lakers… the Celtics for awhile… and after a hiatus, the Jordan Bulls. Yeah, in basketball I was all about the names, not location or loyalty. When Jordan retired the second time I lost interest in basketball.

Sadly for you guys, I never lost interest in either baseball or the Mets.

by Curtis3331 on Oct 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets letter WAS better, at the time

But it’s failure to execute and obvious deception makes it much much worse.

El Esta Gone!
7/28/2011...We will never forget.

by RudyTerrasasWarRoom on Oct 10, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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