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Clean Laundry to Root For Applesauce: Mets Will Introduce Updated Uniforms & 50th Anniversary Patch, More Reyes Speculation Than You Can Handle

Jose Reyes Watch: So what happened yesterday, you ask? First, it was rumored that the Marlins have offered Reyes a 6 year, $90 million contract. Then, former GM Jim Bowden tweeted that the Reyes camp has two offers in hand, one maybe (or maybe not) from the Mets. Rich Coutinho examines how to separate truth from fiction in the Reyes rumor mill, while over at Fangraphs, Dave Cameron wonders whether Reyes is suffering from Carl Crawford backlash. Over at Rising Apple, Ben Berkon takes a look at how the Mets could beat the rumored Marlins' offer.

While Jose's status is totally uncertain at this point, the Mets seem to have come to a decision with a couple of their arbitration eligible players. Jon Heyman confirmed (again) that Angel Pagan and Mike Pelfrey will indeed be tendered contracts for 2012 by the Mets. On the free agent front, Ken Davidoff reports that the Mets have interest in Staten Island's own Jason Marquis. Meh.

An area of the team that won't see major, sweeping changes is the training staff, which will still employ head trainer Ray Ramirez in 2012. However, assistant Mike Herbst has been banished transferred to Port St. Lucie and replaced with minor league training coordinator Brian Chicklo. This just seems like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to me, but whatever works, I guess.

David Waldstein spent time on the golf course with the knuckleball convention featuring R.A. Dickey, Tim Wakefield, Charlie Hough and Phil Niekro. The four knucklers met on this day because of a documentary that is being produced about the pitch. So. Awesome.

In off the field news, the Mets introduced some new 15 and 20 game ticket packs, which will go on sale on November 28th. Meanwhile, the Mets tweeted a picture of Citi Field's wall construction, if you're interested in seeing how things are going.

Finally, Jason Pridie has agreed to a minor league deal with the Oakland A's. Apparently, having a wife that can control the fates of BABIP is the new market inefficiency.

Star-divide

Justin Verlander of the Tigers was unanimously voted as the American League Cy Young Award winner on Tuesday, after a season in which he won the AL pitching triple crown and threw a no-hitter. Jered Weaver, James Shields, C.C. Sabathia and Jose Valverde rounded out the top five. There was certainly an argument to be made for Sabathia and his 7.1 fWAR, just a touch better than Verlander's 7.0 mark, to win the award (come on...fourth place?) but in the end, I personally would've voted Verlander (if I had a vote).

There's a lot of talk about MLB's new CBA, which seems as if it's close to being completed. Much of that talk centers around the draft and specifically, free agent compensation, an issue very near and dear to Mets right now with Jose Reyes currently in free agency and holding Type A status.

The Orioles showed off their new jerseys and caps, the latter of which features the return of the old school smiling cartoon bird. This logo replaces the ornithologically correct Oriole, which adorned Baltimore's caps since the late 80's.

Strange news in Pittsburgh, as Pirates backup outfielder Xavier Paul was involved in an identity hoax perpetrated by a minor league ballplayer, who's scheme involved making fake ID's and misrepresenting himself to the Australian Baseball League and Major League Baseball.

Remember MLB's 2001 rookie class? Wendy Thurm takes a look at the impressive group of stars that made up 2001 first year players.

Finally, it looks as if Omar Minaya is going to accept a new job during the GM meetings. Good news for the Mets as that should save them some money (remember when the Wilpons extended Minaya's contract through 2012? Yeah...).

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If the Mets really are the one of 2 offers

Reyes now has, you have to be a little impressed with how this FO doesn’t leak any information until they’re good and ready.

by MetsFan4Decades on Nov 16, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

Haven't we been reading "Mets Interested in Marquis" stories

for what seems like the past 15 years? And he never signs here, nor should he. Probably a fine human being, but just not that good a pitcher for the money he’d command as a “proven veteran.”

by madisonmetsfan on Nov 16, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I think the interest is more from Marquis's side.

In my opinion, his agents are trying to use Mets ‘interest’ to bump offers from other teams. And we really don’t need yet another 4/5 starter.

by Curtis3331 on Nov 17, 2011 4:02 AM EST up reply actions  

fWAR for pitchers

Good for true talent level and projection discussions, not good for Cy Young voting.

by James Kannengieser on Nov 16, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

this, this, a million times this

Time to update this: 2009 Did Not Happen. Neither did 2010. Or 2011. Sports suck.

by cjmulrain on Nov 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

So true

I think bwar is better for pitchers. We don’t adjust a hitter’s stats for war based on batted ball profile, it is inconsistent to do so for pitchers.

by goquakers on Nov 16, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Latest pic of Dickey...


His Daughter is a Jawa…I want to be his kid!

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Nov 16, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

My theory on the Reyes shenanigans

The NY beat reporters are accustomed to an extremely leaky front office. Omar Minaya certainly held his cards out for all at the table to see (whether or not this was intentional is up for debate), and the MSM was happy to take advantage. Now, a man of much greater intellect and management skill is in charge, and he doesn’t allow leaks in his front office. Since the beat writers have absolutely nothing coming from the Mets, they have to rely on sources around MLB. Those sources are going to leak what’s to their advantage, so of course they will leak negative info about the Mets. That’s why we’re hearing “the Mets definitely won’t go over four years” and “there’s no shot the Mets can bring back Reyes”. You can also factor in the beat writers’ frustration with the Mets’ FO. This starts to sound conspiracy-ish, but it’s not crazy to think that the Rubins and Shermans of the world are fed up with having no info and are more prone to print negative columns, even if the desire is subconscious. I guess my point is that it’s absurd to call the Mets out of it for Jose right now, and the media needs to take a deep breath and understand that it’s only November.

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Nov 16, 2011 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

I also think that many fans, who are used to reading about leaked information, are conflating the quiet with being passive and/or disinterest.

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by Russ on Nov 16, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Absolutely

As if the two were linked at the hip. If we haven’t heard anything by the Winter Meetings, then we can start to get worried. But I do think the fans’ conflation is primarily a result of the MSM spinning the quiet as passivity. I don’t think people quite make that jump by themselves.

"F***ing shocker." -Billy Wagner

by nymgb44 on Nov 16, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

That's how I've been feeling.

Just because there is no news doesn’t mean the Mets aren’t engaged.

Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.

by bm01bath on Nov 16, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree as well

Said in my comment above I was a bit impressed with this FO and they’re handling of Mets business.

You have to wonder if the goal of the some of the beat writers is to print as much negative stuff as they can, get the fan base all riled up, which in turn they think might force the FO to start giving some details to them. Must really piss them off that Sandy treats them all the same – as in I’ll release details about this team when I’m good and ready and not before.

by MetsFan4Decades on Nov 16, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

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