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Which Available Closer Should the Mets Choose?

This is a great year to be looking for a closer on the market. The options are plentiful if not extremely palatable. There's a real chance the Mets could find a closer for a multi-year deal at a good price.

So why was the first rumored match Francisco Cordero? Oh no, not Co-Co. There have got to be better options out there.

What Cordero does do for us is point out that there are two, possibly competing, motives for the Mets in their search this off-season. One motive is to find a closer that might return more value than he costs. Thinking this way would push the team towards signing a younger closer coming off a bad year. The thinking would be that he'd be cheap and that he could bounce back and be better than his contract in the years down the line.

The other motive is to, you know, sign an actual reliever that has a good chance to put in a strong 2011. Since the Mets' budget seems limited, they probably can't sign both unless the market really drives the price down far.

So who's the best match? Let's take a look.

Star-divide

Here are the availables, in a sortable leaderboard currently sorted by 2011 WAR:

Name Age SV G IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP GB% ERA FIP xFIP WAR
Ryan Madson 31 32 62 60.2 9.2 2.37 0.3 0.315 48.8% 2.37 2.25 2.94 1.7
Francisco Rodriguez 30 23 73 71.2 9.92 3.27 0.5 0.321 51.8% 2.64 2.72 3.08 1.4
Joel Peralta 36 6 71 67.2 8.11 2.39 0.93 0.218 27.0% 2.93 3.37 3.88 0.8
Heath Bell 34 43 64 62.2 7.32 3.02 0.57 0.261 43.3% 2.44 3.23 3.67 0.5
Kerry Wood 34 1 55 51 10.06 3.71 0.88 0.294 35.8% 3.35 3.59 3.85 0.5
Frank Francisco 32 17 54 50.2 9.41 3.2 1.24 0.3 38.6% 3.55 3.8 3.36 0.5
Brad Lidge 35 1 25 19.1 10.71 6.05 0.327 57.4% 1.4 2.82 3.4 0.3
Mike Gonzalez 33 1 56 53.1 8.61 3.54 1.18 0.295 40.9% 4.39 4.11 3.73 0.3
Francisco Cordero 36 37 68 69.2 5.43 2.84 0.78 0.214 50.0% 2.45 4.02 4.14 0.1
Joe Nathan 37 14 48 44.2 8.66 2.82 1.41 0.25 34.9% 4.84 4.28 3.96
Fernando Rodney 35 3 39 32 7.31 7.88 0.28 0.272 58.4% 4.5 4.71 5.09 -0.2
Jonathan Broxton 27 7 14 12.2 7.11 6.39 1.42 0.317 41.9% 5.68 5.63 4.67 -0.3
Matt Capps 28 15 69 65.2 4.66 1.78 1.37 0.263 41.6% 4.25 4.75 4.49 -0.4
Jon Rauch 33 11 53 52 6.23 2.42 1.9 0.276 34.5% 4.85 5.26 4.56 -0.6

Maybe we should take Ryan Madson off the list right now. If the Mets are going to pay the market rate for an elite player at any position, let's hope it's shortstop. Also, reading the tea leaves -- the report that the Mets FO offered Cordero a two-year deal -- it doesn't sound like the Mets want to pay for a top-flight closer either.

Does that mean we should take our old friend Francisco Rodriguez off the list? Probably. Not sure K-Rod -- or his new agent -- would be happy with a deal starting at about a third of the contract he had just last year. Scratch Heath Bell then too.

And yeah, that's what the team should be shooting for. On a $5 million a year salary, a closer could actually return positive value. It'd be great to see a contract that was around the three-year, $15-million level. If 2013 is the rallying cry, then the team would still have a closer under contract and that closer might actually be returning all of his value. Plus, there's the real goal of developing a home-grown, under-control closer out of a failed starter sometime over the next three years. Continually paying market rate for closers is no long-term strategy.

So what's wrong with Francisco Cordero? He's 37 and his strikeout rate hasn't been above average since 2008. Maybe mitigating his ridiculously low 5.43 K/9 last year was his above-average swinging strike rate (10%), but he's still not very exciting at that age. Only his walk rate was good last year, and that was the first time it was good in the last four years.

Mike Gonzalez and Brad Lidge have been oft-injured. Lidge, in particular, won't see the correct side of 91 MPH on the gun again and is best signed as a reclamation project. Gonzalez, like Joel Peralta, seems like a platoon pitcher at this point in his career. He was only really a closer for a limited time.

Fernando Rodney was never good. Joe Nathan is pretty old - do the Mets want to pay him until he's forty?

Then we have the Twins former two-headed monster of Jon Rauch and Matt Capps. They're the perfect example of pitchers that are good enough to be closers when they are under control, but just don't have more than one elite skill that's worth paying for in free agency. Relievers averaged an 8 K/9 last year. Capps has never struck out that many batters per nine innings. Rauch has done it twice, but not since 2008. Relievers averaged a 3.65 BB/9 last year. Both Capps and Rauch have beaten that number by a ton most years, but it's Capps (career 1.75 BB/9) that owns the advantage. Pitchers average around 44% ground balls -- Capps has hit that mark once, Rauch hasn't ever. Is control worth paying a multi-year deal for? At the closer position?

The best of what's left might actually be the best bets: Frank Francisco and Kerry Wood. Because they haven't been closing regularly for the past two years, they might not get the "capital C" Closer money. But they've been pretty good for a while now.

Kerry Wood has averaged over 50 innings with a double-digit strikeout rate since 2009. His four and a half walks per nine are not super exciting, but his ground-ball percentage (39%) is closer to average than Frank Francisco's (34.5%). Frankie Frank, though, has done everything but get ground balls. Since 2009, he's had ten strikeouts per nine, three walks per nine, and 50+ innings a year. If he could be had for five-to-eight million a year for three years, he'd be the most exciting pick. Good thing the Mets have contacted his representatives according to Ken Davidoff.

If the market passes the Mets by, though, there's still hope. A pairing of one old, one young, could work too: Sign Joel Peralta and Jon Broxton for a couple years, and maybe one will work out. Throw Michael Wuertz on there if you like. The quantity-not-quality approach is a good fallback.

But if the Mets want a closer that might help us win this year, and might return them more value than they are being paid, Kerry Wood and Frank Francisco are the best options on the market.

Poll
Who would you like the Mets to sign to close?
Ryan Madson
36 votes
Francisco Rodriguez
32 votes
Kerry Wood
30 votes
Frank Francisco
61 votes
Heath Bell
74 votes
Joe Nathan
157 votes
Jon Broxton
100 votes
Matt Capps
21 votes
Brad Lidge
16 votes
Francisco Cordero
11 votes

538 votes | Poll has closed

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Parnell

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by Dandy Salderson on Nov 17, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Isringhausen

I’d be fine with bringing in isringhausen back on a 1 year deal. make him our closer, and make parnell earn a closer role. if he can’t, then be done with parnell as well.

we made it too easy on parnell last year and handed him the role when he didn’t earn it and he didn’t seem ready for it. make him work for it, and then he’ll be ready.

by attgig on Nov 17, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

PAY THE MAN!!!

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Nov 17, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard the Marlins already offered him the position of closer

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by Blame-everyone-else on Nov 17, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

If they have

We could always go with Wilson Valdez.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Nov 17, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted for Frank Francisco

I disqualified the following choices because they are Type A free agents, and we still don’t know what is going to happen with the CBA: Ryan Madson, Francisco Rodriguez, Heath Bell, Matt Capps and Francisco Cordero.

Of the remaining choices, I took a quick look at age, BB/9, K/9, xFIP and meltdowns and shutdowns. Frank Francisco seems like the best choice to me.

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Nov 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

It's been reported that even with the new CBA, those ranked FA would still generate draft picks, so this wouldnt change for the next draft.

Apparently the commisioner’s office told the Mets that they would still get draft picks for Reyes if he walks out.

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by Michkin on Nov 17, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Frank Francisco seems like the best bet to perform solidly and be signable for reasonable numbers.

by Joamiq on Nov 19, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Nathan

He seems to have the most value for the best price. But I do think we should go after someone like Juan Cruz incase Nathan gets hurt

Down 2 in the bottom of the ninth?
Lets Bring in Willie Harris!

by ShaqKazaam on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Geez.

What happened to Wuertz the last two years? He pitched like a stud reliever in 2009 (102 K’s in 78 innings) but his control completely imploded in ’10 and ’11.

If he’s cheap and he’s not injured or something, I’d take a shot on him, at least on a minor league deal.

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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 17, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

Probably

At least a little injured. He throws so many sliders…

by Eno Sarris on Nov 17, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Ayala

good ‘ole Luis is available isn’t he?

-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

by Ceetar on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

None of the above?

I’d rather see the money spent elsewhere and deal with the need for a “real” closer if the team needs an upgrade during the season.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Nov 17, 2011 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

what he said

First, we won’t need a dynamite closer until we’re close to contending, which we aren’t and won’t be if we don’t first upgrade in a lot of other areas.

Second, one can often find a good closer just by searching through the various guys one has pitching down in AA and AAA. John Axford, anyone?

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

While true

You can get lucky and find depth in your minors but we really don’t have any candidates for that. Also, as I said below, teams pay a premium in trade at the deadline for relievers. Imagine the trade value a guy like Nathan would have in July if he has rediscovered himself.

by TRS86 on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

good point

It would be nice to trade Nathan to the Phillies for Domonic Brown and Vance Worley once Papelbon blows up.

I guess I’m just leery of signing closers after the BB-Rod contract, but I doubt Alderson hands one of those out.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Nov 17, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The main reason to sign a (cheap/1y) closer would be to find value and flip for prospects at the deadline.

I read somewhere that the Mets told some agents that they would consider ranked relievers if they weren’t offered arbitration (no draft pick loss).

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by Michkin on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, true enough.

I’m not totally foreclosed on the idea if it’s a one year “re-establishment”-type deal for a guy coming off of a bad year who can get dumped at the deadline. However, although I trust Alderson to not overpay, my preference is to not waste money on an “established closer” and spend that money on a more useful position on the field. Relievers are flaky enough that I prefer the team to stick with the flaky relievers they already have and see what happens.

"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez

by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Nov 17, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They should try to find surplus value in all positions, but if they were to "speculate" with players, closers look like a good vehicle.

1) A cheap 1y deal, there isn’t much to lose. They should be cheap enough that they don’t preclude us to make other moves. There is a supply of FA reclamation closers this year.
2) In the deadline, there is always demand for closers and GMs in the win-now mode illusion.

Suppose SM Sandy can find both an OF and a RP with a surplus value of 1 WAR. It’s easier to boost the value of the RP by putting him in the “closerz role” (fangraphs WAR accounts for half of leverage for RPs and he gets traditional stats like savez) and it’s easier to flip him at the deadline.

Relievers are really volatile year-to-year but ours were really crappy. Our pen this year was bottom 3 in WAR and meltdowns. Maybe Parnell or Acostalypse could turn into that closer-to-be-flipped.

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by Michkin on Nov 17, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Robert Allen Dickey

Starts closes plays shortstop and left field (shortstop when Reyes gets a day off).

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by the maroon bird on Nov 17, 2011 11:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Wood

I believe he has said he would either return to the Cubs or retire.

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by Blame-everyone-else on Nov 17, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

I'll take both...

Nice job on the article. I agree that Frankie Frank should be first on the list. I would then try to bring in a guy like Lidge, Broxton or even Nathan to pair up with him. Don’t forget that if you get these guys at decent prices if you are not contending they turn straight into prospects in July.

by TRS86 on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

agreed

thats why they should sign a few useful relievers to get a bunch of good prospects which is what mets need

by TomCarvel on Nov 18, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, hold on...

Broxton is still only 27?

He seems like exactly the kind of rebound gamble a large-market team like the Mets should be taking. (See, for example, Russell Martin.)

by JoshNY on Nov 17, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

But seriously...

as mentioned above, the correct answer is “Jose Reyes”.

by JoshNY on Nov 17, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted for Broxton

but really, we should have been allowed to vote for 2. Didn’t Sandy more or less hint that’s exactly what he’s looking for? 2 reclamation type, or ‘almost’ type relievers being signed and let them duke it out in ST to win the job?

by MetsFan4Decades on Nov 17, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

Sandy was talking about reclamation project(s) and/or trading for some AA/AAA closers to promote.

by Curtis3331 on Nov 17, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why dont we sign

Francisco, Gonzalez, and Nathan. Out those three we will easily have the closer spot covered. this would make our bullpen just amazing. we got money to spend from reyes so why not make the bullpen dominant. all three would be more than affordable. give francisco 2 yrs 10 mil, gonzalez, 2 yrs 8 mil and nathan 1 yr 3 mil with incentives. then we sign buehrle for the rotation. and the pitching on the team would be ridiculous. throw in some solid years from the offense which is in for a bounce back and mets could have a good season 80+ wins

by TomCarvel on Nov 18, 2011 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

All of that money spent for just 80+ wins?

Congratulations…you’ve just bought the Mets a 3rd place finish in the NL East.

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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 18, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

but nathan should be a definite

give him the one year with incentives and then a vesting for 2013 with stipulations that he pitch 50ip this year and is not on dl at end of year with an arm injury.

by TomCarvel on Nov 18, 2011 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

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