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Some Ideas

So I decided to write up a couple of my opinions on some options the Mets have for the offseason. My goal was to make moves that if they go right will bring the Mets close to contention without setting them back in the future.

 

Lets start with the big issue for the offseason. In the beginning I was against resigning Reyes because I thought it would hurt us on the back end of the deal which is when we are most likely to be competitive anyways. Also I thought the 2 draft picks would be more valuable to us 5 years from now than an aging Reyes. Further I thought that resigning Reyes would lock up that side of the infield for the future and thus allow only second base for Tejada and Murphy, unless someone wanted to try the outfield. However, now I think that if the Mets can get him for a reasonable deal they should. He will help keep the Mets relevant and will hopefully still be productive in a few years. Also for a year or 2 Tejada could be allowed to develop in the minors and be called up in case of injuries. I would structure the deal as a 5 year 96 million dollar deal with a 6 year team option at 15 million with a 4 million buyout. Total value is then 5 years 100 mil or 6 years 111 mil.

 

It would be structured like this:

2012- 16 Mil

2013- 18 Mil

2014- 20 Mil

2015- 22 Mil

2016- 20 Mil

2017- 15 Mil option or 4 mil buyout.

 

Hopefully that will beat the Marlins offer.

 

Next up comes the bullpen. Acosta, Byrdak, Parnell and Beato have spots, carrasco is in AAA. Sign Frank Fransico for 2 years at 8 million and Octavio Dotel for 1 year 3 million per. This gives us some depth in AAA (Carrasco and Ray Herrera) also sign Bucholz to a minor league deal.

 

For the starting rotation I’m going to tender Pelfery and trade him for some prospects. Next I am going to sign Erik Berdard for 1 year 5 million dollars and Rich Harden for 1 year 3 million dollars. These guys are both injury risks but finished the year healthy and have the potential to be very good. Harden’s ERA is a bit misleading considering who he pitched against. This article makes the argument more convincingly that I can. The link is here:

http://www.twinkietown.com/2011/11/15/2563172/building-a-makeshift-ace?ref=fangraphs

 

Anyways those guys are the 4 and 5 behind Santana, Dickey, and Niese. Since there are three injury risks I’m also going to sign Chris Volstad for 1 year 1 million he will start at AAA and will be the 6th starter with Gee as the 7th. This rotation could be very bad if Harden, Berdard, and Santana all go down. But if 1 or both stay healthy this rotation could be quite good. Plus with the strengthened bullpen it should take some of the burden of the starters.

 

Now for the rest of the team its going to remain pretty much the same. Pagan is going to be tendered a contract. I’m not going to bother to fill out the bench because I am getting tired of writing, but needless to say a backup catcher will be signed to mentor Thole. I'll be generous and say it costs 5 million to fill out the bench.

 

So now I am going to go through the starting roster (not the bullpen) and post my admittedly optimistic projections:

LF- Jason Bay- I am one of the few fans who still have hope for Bay. I think the change in the walls will see him return close to his pre-Mets form.

CF- Pagan- I think we will see him settle between last year’s production and 2010 as a solid center fielder.

RF- Duda shows that last season wasn’t a fluke.

1B- A healthy Ike also shows that last season wasn’t a fluke

2B- Murphy can hit, that’s obvious and he slowly improves his 2B defense.

SS- Reyes- Regresses a bit from last year, spends a bit of time on the DL and Tejada fills in admirably. All in all a Reyes year.

3B- Wright returns to close to his old form.

C- Thole progresses with his pitch selection and offensively has a slight improvement.

SP:

Santana- Stays healthy and pitches to a mid 3 ERA.

Dickey- Maintains his production.

Niese- Pitches to a mid 3 ERA.

Berdard- Stays healthy and pitches all year to a mid-high 3 ERA.

Harden- Gives 100 innings with an ERA just below 4.

Volstad- 100 innings ERA just above 4.

 

If I did my math right that adds to around 111 million for the 2011 payroll.

Thoughts?

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Signing both Bedard and Harden?

No thanks. What prospects are you trading Pelf for? Theres no reason Reyes has to regress at all this year. He’s entering his prime. For all we know last year will be his norm for the next 3-4 years. Who is the back up catcher? And to be honest, I’d almost rather have Tejada and his D in there over Murph.

by SFloridaMetsFan on Nov 28, 2011 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Signing them both gives us a huge injury risk I admit that, but if we want to have even a wild card shot, given that we have a limited budget, we have to take risks. Worst case scenario both get injured and we have Volstad and Gee step in. As for the prospects for pelf and catcher I didn’t really have time to research that stuff, which is why i left it open. For pelf any prospect you can get, if Sandy judges that he can’t get any prospect for pelf then dont tender him a contract. For the catcher possibilities are Varitek, Hernadez, Blanco, Barajas, Ivan Rodriguez. Like with pelf I dont have time to choose one out of all the options so i left it open. As for Reyes last year was a career high, so to offset some of my optimistic predictions I predicted regression for him. And while Tejada has better D, Murph has better offense. Its a toss up really, but I would choose Murph.

by Wrightmove on Nov 28, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Reyes has matched last year's production twice previously.

06: 6.1WAR
08: 6.4 WAR
11: 6.2 WAR

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by Ogre39666 on Nov 28, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yes that is true but that was done over a full season while his 2011 WAR was done in only 126 games. I am saying he will have averages similar to 06 or 08 but will miss 20ish games due to injury, resulting in a war of around 5.

by Wrightmove on Nov 28, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a 5.0+ WAR

Especially at shortstop. That’s still All-Star level, starting to border on elite.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 29, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah thats why I signed him

And am paying him 16 million for 2012.

by Wrightmove on Nov 29, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

How can you predict injury for Reyes

then say Bedard will be healthy all year? Last year he didn’t miss time was 2006.

Astro Travellin'

by BlackOps on Nov 28, 2011 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

The last time Reyes didnt miss time was 2008

Also, I just think that a hamstring injury will nag him a bit. All I am predicting is 1 stint on the 15 DL for Reyes. Also I think out of the 2 of Harden and Berdard 1 of them will only pitch half a season, the other will be healthy. Because of that i said Berdard would be healthy.

by Wrightmove on Nov 28, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

But what if both Bedard and Harden get hurt and miss a lot of time?

It’s not that unrealistic to imagine that scenario happening, considering their respective injury histories.

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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 29, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Harden and Bedard will get more

There’s always a dumb GM to give multi year over paid contracts that sets the tone for the off season. Wish we got on Jose Molina for under $2 million.

by TheKid08 on Nov 28, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Bruce Chen and Wang

Bruce Chen, who had similar stats as Berdard last year got 2 years for 9 mil. But he doesnt have Berdard’s injury history plus since Berdard is probably wanting to have 1 fully healthy season before signing a long term deal so he can make more money i don’t think the offer is too far off.

Also Wang got 1 year 4 million and is has a similar injury history to Harden but had a better year last year. Maybe throw in an extra million for him, still around 110 million.

by Wrightmove on Nov 28, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

All in all I like it

But at this point I’m thinking the Mets payroll will be closer to 95 million than 110 million.

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by Rey-O on Nov 28, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Highly doubt it

But I’d love to be wrong

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by Rey-O on Nov 29, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of signing Bedard and Harden.

Three of our starters would then have injury concerns but if we rehab Santana, bring him thru AA then AAA. Having one of the young pitchers in AAA as insurance won’t hurt and resigning Bautista for another year at some small amount makes sense.

Any starting pitcher is either going to be crap,megabucks, injured or coming off injury. Harden and Bedard are not awful pics.

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by ScottfromPeekskill on Nov 29, 2011 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

Not bad

Overall, this is a decent plan—for the MINIMUM the Mets should be spending!

I think we should have zero tolerance for the Wilponzis. If they don’t spend, we should refuse to attend any games.

by Steve OnceBrooklynNowMets on Nov 29, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

They can't spend what they don't have

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by piazza62 on Nov 29, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I tell my sons that all the time

and they just look at me like I have 3 heads, and show me their credit cardz

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Nov 29, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well,

credit cards are free money.

by Evan_S on Nov 30, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever been to Washington?

OK, no politix.

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Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.

by StorkFan on Nov 30, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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