The Example of the Arizona Diamondbacks
A lot of Mets fans have been glum this off-season, suggesting that even should the team retain Jose Reyes, they are "years away from contending." This is certainly an understandable position, given that the team has averaged about 75 wins per year over the past three seasons (about 15 away from a wild card spot), that payroll seems to be constricted in a manner that prevents any big acquisitions, and that there don't appear to be any big-time A+ prospects in the high minors right now (though there is some quality).
However, the "years away" mantra makes a rigid formula out of something with lots of variables in play. As such, I think it might be useful for us to look at the Arizona Diamondbacks, a team that went from a cellar-dwelling 65 wins in 2010 to a division-winning 94 in 2011, because their situation is similar enough to ours to inspire some hope.
In 2010, the Diamondbacks went 65-97, finishing fifteen games back in the NL West...of fourth place. Things looked bleak enough that the team was seriously considering trading its young potential start, Justin Upton, reasoning that they might be so far from contention that keeping Upton was not prudent. But they did keep him, and the following season they went 94-58, winning the division by eight games.
Surely they must have added some big-time hitters to achieve this feat, whether from the minors or other teams,yes? No, actually. All of Arizona's best hitters in 2011--Upton, Chris Young, Miguel Montero, Gerardo Parra, and Ryan Roberts--were on the team in 2010. It's true that Upton and Roberts had career seasons and that Montero was healthier, but then Stephen Drew and Kelly Johnson, the team's best position players in 2010, had poor years. They may have gotten some luck--I don't know how to calculate expected runs, but Arizona had the same team wOBA as the Mets and yet scored 731 runs, 13 more than the Mets' 718--but a combination of solid hitting all around and a generous ballpark led to good run-scoring.
Of course, this wasn't much different from 2010, where the Diamondbacks scored 713 runs on a slightly higher wOBA. The Diamondbacks' 2010 problem was their pitching, and in particular their bullpen. The Diamonbacks gave up 836 runs in 2010, and 307 of these came during the mere 439 innings their bullpen threw. (Their starters gave up 529 in 993 innings--not good, but much better.) Let's put it this way--their two best relievers were D. J. Carrasco and Blaine Boyer. In 2011, though, Diamondback relievers threw the same 439 innings, but only gave up 197 runs--a 110-run improvement. How did they do it?
Well, they signed J. J. Putz to a 2-year deal for $5m a year. While we know that acquiring J. J. Putz to improve one's bullpen is a gamble, their more-competent medical staff apparently approved it, and he was spectacular for them this year: 58 innings, 2.17 ERA, 2.54 FIP. Those were closer innings that were going to Juan Guitierrez and his 5+ ERA/FIP last year. Fangraphs rates that single replacement to be a +2.7 WAR move (-1.0 to 1.7).
They also traded Mark Reynolds to Baltimore for David Hernandez. Though only a year removed from a 44-homer season, Arizona disliked Reynolds' defense and strikeouts and trusted Roberts more. Hernandez had not looked like much of a return, but Arizona saw improving strikeouts and a flyball pitcher who really would benefit from getting out of a bandbox. It paid off; Hernandez pitched 69 innings to a 3.38 ERA and 2.94 FIP. Those were innings that had gone to the likes of replacement-level guys like Aaron Heilman and Esmerlin Vasquez.
Other guys contributed too: Joe Paterson came over in the Rule 5 draft; Bryan Shaw got promoted from the minors; they traded for Brad Ziegler. Suddenly, the bullpen was good--not great, probably only middle of the NL, but competent where it had once been godawful. And when you consider that they cut basically the same payroll trading Reynolds as they picked up signing Putz, it cost them pretty much nothing cash-wise.
Of course, it helped quite a bit that the starting pitching improved too, giving up only 465 runs in 1004 innings, a 64-run improvement. That was mostly just a case of letting Ian Kennedy develop, giving Daniel Hudson (who had come up the previous year) a full season, and bringing up Josh Collmenter to be a solid starter. Those pieces were pretty much already in place, though, as was the team's excellent Reynolds-less fielding.
And that added up to 29 more wins without a single big, flashy move. Obviously, there was some luck involved--Pythagorean expectancy only had them improve from 68 to 89, but 89 would've won the division too; the run-scoring outpaced the overall hitting by a bit and the pitchers outperformed DIPS, but neither was hugely fluky.
What conclusions can we take from this? The Mets' biggest single problem last year was the same as the Diamondbacks', a terrible bullpen and not-good starters, and the avenues the Diamondbacks used to solve them--trading infield depth, making reasonable signings, having good young pitchers in the high minors come up to take over, and having some bouncebacks from injury and underperformance--are also available to the Mets. It would take some luck to have it work out, but then the Mets, as relatively disappointing and cash-strapped as they are, are starting in a much better place quality- and finance-wise than is Arizona. Unless you believe Dan Warthen destroys all pitchers, there's no reason this can't work for us.
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Optimism FTW
Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.
I would feel great if we could swap divisions with them
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I like the optimism and I'll keep my fingers crossed but
it’d take a lot of improvements on the pitching side and a meltdown from the Phillies or Braves to make it happen.
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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 6, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions
The meltdown of the Phillies is already happening.
Age, injury, and failed prospects/non-prospects being all key elements.
Also the braves have become a pitching centered team (a 60-40 split with hitting), which exampled by the successful playoff teams this past postseason, is less effective then a hitting centered team.
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*the 60/40 split showing the slight differential between the braves's focus on the two factors
I don’t know the exact percentage, nor do I think I’d be able to figure it out.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
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I don't know about that.
Though I think (and hope) age and payroll will hurt the Phillies in the future, they did won 102 games last year. Howard will probably miss some time in 2012, but that’s not exactly a back-breaker. I don’t think we’ve seen a lot of evidence for the Phillies decline as of yet. Also, I’m not sure where you’re getting the “pitching is less effective than hitting” notion. Certainly you can’t come to that conclusion from a few playoff series.
The pieces are all there (or atleast most of them are) for Phillie decline
And as for the pitching hitting ratio, I’m not judging by just this past year, that was just an example, it’s just that, recently, offensive-minded teams have been more succesful (unless you happen to have 3+ aces, ie the Phillies and 2010 Giants)
Rey-sign Rey-ass
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The decline of the Phillies really depends on what they do with shortstop.
If they re-sign Rollins for some ridiculous contract (like 5/75) then they are well on their way to dropping off a cliff. If they can work some younger piece into the role for an affordable price then it probably puts their decline a year farther into the future.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
I agree with that to a degree
though I think it’s ultimately going to have to be the pitching that crumbles. As long as Halladay, Lee and Hamels are still healthy and effective, that’ll be a good team with a chance at competing. Luckily, Halladay and Lee are getting up there in age but I just have this feeling that they’re going to age well, considering they’ve already got pinpoint control and likely could survive losing some speed on their fastballs.
Damn them.
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by Steve Schreiber on Nov 7, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Diamondbacks are set
They have a good, very young, cheap Major League team, with a pretty good farm system to draw from. The NL West, of course, is relatively weak, so that makes them that much better.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 6, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions
The mets farm system has improved of late.
So thats a step foward.
Rey-sign Rey-ass
Logic Your Sense Makes None.
Isn't this
what everyone said about the Rockies two years ago…
Welcome to the NL West!
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 9, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
One piece missing for the Mets
Is the slick fielding. Although, I believe adding Ike Davis back to the lineup next year will anchor the infield like he did in 2010, when the Mets were ranked much higher defensively. I expect an improvement defensively in the infield, but the outfield is a crap shoot to me. Maybe Pagan bounces back defensively, which if he did would an enormous difference out there. Duda having less ground to cover might help too, but not sure.
Other than the defensive part of it (for now), I think everything you mentioned about the D-backs could break the same way for the Mets in 2012.
but the thing is
we dont have young guys as talented as justin upton or miguel montero. yes duda and thole are good but they aren’t upton and montero.

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