SB Nation Baseball Awards: NL Cy Young
by Eric Simon on Nov 8, 2011 1:01 PM EST
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PrintThe BBWAA end-of-season awards will be announced next week, but who cares about those guys? We're independent journalists, dammit, and we demand to have our voices heard! Or something. So each year the SB Nation baseball network (30 team-specific sites, six general baseball blogs, and Baseball Nation) conduct our own awards voting. A majority of our sites are statistically inclined and we generally skew more toward modern analytical coverage than the BBWAA as a whole.
Does that enlightened approach mean we arrive at more typically rational results than the mainstream media? Sometimes, but we're also subject to a different kind of bias than the proudly dispassionate newsies: We have an actual rooting interest here, and that can often color our judgment of teams and players. Newspapermen are likewise prone to homerism toward the players they cover, but it's still a different dynamic when you're paid to be objective versus the pronounced subjectivity of a team blogger.
Preamble aside, here are the top three vote-getters for the National League Cy Young:
| Num | Name | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Clayton Kershaw | 14 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 149 | |
| 1 | Roy Halladay | 13 | 13 | 2 | 149 | ||
| 3 | Cliff Lee | 4 | 21 | 2 | 83 |
A tie! Much like the 1979 NL MVP race when Keith Hernandez and Willie Stargell both won the award (though one was manifestly more deserving than the other), Clayton Kershaw and Roy Halladay split the totally fictitious SBN CY Young award this year. Feel free to swing by my house in Jersey to pick up your prizes, gentlemen.
Here are the ballots turned in by Amazin' Avenue:
Chris McShane
- Clayton Kershaw
- Roy Halladay
- Cliff Lee
- Cole Hamels
- Ian Kennedy
Looks like somebody has a secret crush on the Phillies!
Rob Castellano
- Roy Halladay
- Clayton Kershaw
- Cliff Lee
- Ian Kennedy
- Madison Bumgarner
No Mets pitcher received even a single fifth-place vote, not even Chris Young, who was amazing this year.
The full SB Nation Baseball NL Cy Young results are after the jump.
| Num | Name | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Clayton Kershaw | 14 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 149 | |
| 1 | Roy Halladay | 13 | 13 | 2 | 149 | ||
| 3 | Cliff Lee | 4 | 21 | 2 | 83 | ||
| 4 | Ian Kennedy | 3 | 14 | 6 | 43 | ||
| 5 | Cole Hamels | 1 | 7 | 8 | 29 | ||
| 6 | Madison Bumgarner | 2 | 3 | 7 | |||
| 7 | Tim Lincecum | 1 | 4 | 6 | |||
| 8 | Matt Cain | 1 | 3 | 5 | |||
| 9 | Chris Carpenter | 1 | 2 | ||||
| 10 | Johnny Cueto | 1 | 1 | ||||
| 11 | Zach Greinke | 1 | 1 | ||||
| 12 | Craig Kimbrel | 1 | 1 |
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who in the hell
put Kershaw 5th? AND HAMELS FIRST? fuck outta here.
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Sounds good
Personally, I would have voted for Halladay over Kershaw. Both had equally impressive numbers, but Kershew threw 16 of his 33 starts at pitcher-friendly Dodger’s Stadium, with a pronounced split in his home/away success(1.69 ERA at home, 2.87 ERA away, 5 HRs allowed at home, 10 HRs allowed away), whereas Halladay threw 15 of his 32 starts at hitter-friendly Citizen’s Bank Park, and was just as good there as he was everywhere else (2.48 at home, 2.23 ERA away, 3 HRs allowed at home, 7 HRs allowed away- which is insane when you think about it!-)
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, that's not supposed to be a reply. Oops.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Halladay had a ridiculously good year at one of the most hitter-friendly parks in baseball. He is just getting scarily better and better.
by BurleighGrimes on Nov 8, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i came into the voting fully intending to vote for kershaw and by the time i sifted through many of those same numbers i couldn’t do so without calling myself hypocrite/homer/wrong.
by Rob Castellano on Nov 8, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kershaw
I raised that same point in my email to the other baseball writers….how can anyone in their right mind have 4 guys ahead of Kershaw? 4!!!! i could see Halladay and could squeeze Lee looking the other way, but 5th? c’mon.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 8, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw who ranked him 5th
let’s just say he roots for a team in the same state.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Giants fans are dicks
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
i suppose that would be what eric termed ‘coloring our judgment’ up above…
by Rob Castellano on Nov 9, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Yea I had no idea Jayson stark was an employee of SB Nation
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by Blame-everyone-else on Nov 8, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Our goofy friends
at Gaslamp Ball did, an for kicks and giggles check out their rationale. Kind of puts SBN to shame as a whole.
How in sam hell is Ryan Vogelsong not even on here
let alone trumped by his own battery mate in an inferior Madison Bumgarner in the eyes of our very own Rob Castellano? Somebody’s got some explaining to do here.
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by Wright of passage on Nov 8, 2011 1:59 PM EST reply actions
I agree with you on Vogelsong
but “battery mate” refers to the catcher, not another pitcher.
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vogelsong v. bumgarner
not really even that cloce for me. bumgarner had a significantly better FIP, K/9, BB/9, HR/9, nearly 30 more IP and a negligible home/road split compared to a huge one for vogelsong.
that’s without considering the fact that looking at BABIP, vogelsong probably got pretty lucky (.280) while bumgarner was a bit unlucky (.322). again, i didn’t factor that into my thinking but it’s just one of many indicators that all seem to paint the same picture.
by Rob Castellano on Nov 8, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how you could vote for Kershaw over Hamels
I thought that Halladay was clearly better, and I’m incredibly biased.
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No Dickey vote?
That’s poor SB Nation, that’s poor.
by ackbar7 on Nov 8, 2011 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Cueto got a vote, and Dickey was better than Cueto
I call shenanigans.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 8, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
HOW THE HELL IS CUETO IN THE VOTING?!?
R.A DID BETTER THAN HIM LAST SEASON. Also, Ian Kennedy should be ahead of Cliff Lee.
My vote is for Kershaw
I might be on the unpopular opinion on this, but I think Kershaw deserved this award all time himself. In the same number of innings (.1 off) Kershaw had more strikeouts, more wins, a lower ERA, and a lower WHIP. A lot of people talk about the hitter friendly park Halladay pitched, but you also have ton consider that Kershaw earned more wins for a team that fell apart this year. I’m hardly proficient at judging saber-metrics, and I’m sure I will get ripped apart for only using wins era whip and strikeouts, but I’m standing by my vote.
and
Kershaw was 5-0 against Lincecum this year, if I am not mistaken……not too shabby.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Nov 8, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure some would disagree, but none too strongly. He was great this year.
The only argument is if he was the best or second best pitcher in the NL.
The same asshole who gave Craig Kimbrel a 5th-place vote
Probably cried for days at not getting to put Jonny Venters on his list as well.
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