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Finding a Second Catcher for the Mets

Mike Nickeas: Opening Day backup catcher? (Photo by Drew Hallowell/Getty Images)

With the non-tender of Ronny Paulino, there's a bit of a question regarding who the Mets will use as their second catcher next season. It's not unheard of for a player to re-sign with a team after a non-tender, but given the relatively low salary Paulino would have earned in arbitration, it doesn't seem like he'll be back with the Mets.

The in-house candidates for the job are Mike Nickeas, who turns 29 in February and has been in the Mets' farm system since 2006, and Lucas May, who is 27 and joined the Mets earlier this week.

Between 2010 and 2011, Nickeas spent a little time in the big leagues for a total of 69 plate appearances. It's an incredibly small sample, but in that time, he hit .190/.239/.254, which is obviously not good. His career totals in the minors are .237/.329/.342, most of which has occurred in either AA or AAA between 2005 and 2011. Catchers don't generally produce much offensively, but Nickeas would probably be even more of a liability at the plate than the grand majority of his positional peers.

May, who had one cup of coffee with the Royals in 2010, has had some good years at the plate in the minors, especially against left-handed pitching, as Ted Berg noted. He's not exactly the ideal option, but it seems reasonably possible that he could step in for the gig. Plus it would give the Mets two guys name Lucas, which is something.

Star-divide

If the Mets look outside the organization for help behind the plate, the pickings are pretty slim. Given the free-agent market, the Mets could opt to play Josh Thole in 120 games or so while letting Nickeas catch the remainder. While Thole's career splits are drastic, he's faced left-handed pitching so infrequently that it's far too early to say he is incapable of hitting it at the major-league level. That very well may be the case, but one of the downsides of having Paulino around this year was that the Mets didn't get to see what Thole could do against left-handed pitching.

There are eleven remaining free agents at the position, most of whom are not good hitters. As for defense, the great work of Mike Fast at Baseball Prospectus regarding pitch framing and Bojan Koprivica at The Hardball Times regarding pitch blocking helps paint a picture, and there's also the Defensive Runs Saved metric.

Let's have a look at the remaining free agents, their 2011 and career wOBA, and the defensive data. Framing Runs are from 2007 through 2011, Blocking Runs are from 2008 through 2011, and Defensive Runs Saved are from 2008 through 2011. It's all sortable, too.

Player 2011 wOBA Career wOBA Framing Runs Blocking Runs DRS
Chris Gimenez 0.266 0.254 6.4 -- --
Chris Snyder 0.340 0.317 10.3 -2.1 -2
Dioner Navarro 0.261 0.290 -18.9 -2.8 3
Eli Whiteside 0.251 0.268 14 -2.2 2
Ivan Rodriguez 0.265 0.343 5.5 1.6 3
J.R. Towles 0.245 0.258 -7.6 -- -5
Jason Varitek 0.318 0.336 -17 2.9 -1
Koyie Hill 0.241 0.252 -24.6 2 3
Ramon Castro 0.332 0.315 -7 0.6
Rob Johnson 0.248 0.259 -24.6 -7.8 6
Ronny Paulino 0.289 0.309 9.6 0.4 2

If the Mets intend to fill the role vacated by Paulino, the two options that seem to make the most sense are Chris Snyder and former-Met Ramon Castro. Both have the ability to hit left-handed pitching. Unlike Paulino, they're not that bad against right-handed pitching, either. The problem with Snyder would likely be salary, as he made $4.5 million this year and might not be seeking a pay cut for 2012. With Castro, there would be questions about his ability to catch 40 games at the age of 36.

Most of the other names aren't all that appealing, mainly because of age, a lack of offensive ability, or both. Signing the cheapest of the free agents while stashing Nickeas and May in Buffalo for depth and development seems like the best way to go unless the market for backup catchers is really out of the Mets' price range.

Poll
Who should be the Mets' second catcher alongside Josh Thole?
Mike Nickeas
53 votes
Lucas May
22 votes
Chris Gimenez
2 votes
Chris Snyder
33 votes
Dioner Navarro
10 votes
Eli Whitside
8 votes
Ivan Rodriguez
75 votes
J.R. Towles
6 votes
Jason Varitek
29 votes
Koyie Hill
1 votes
Ramon Castro
50 votes
Rob Johnson
6 votes
Ronny Paulino
8 votes
Someone else.
22 votes

325 votes | Poll has closed

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Mike Jacobs?

Or Kai Gronauer?

"Let them be stud muffins"
-Tom Seaver

by piazza62 on Dec 14, 2011 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sir Brain Socks DDS PTR RSVP

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by Michkin on Dec 14, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Dec 14, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

nobody thought to make signs to hold at the games saying

resign …! wait, who?

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by astromets on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Voted "other"

I’d hate to see Niese go but the speculative talk about Toronto packing us Travis D’Arnaud + an arm looks like its got some potential juice.

"Intelligence is not a genetic predisposition. Think stupid!!"

by Wright of passage on Dec 14, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Picking up a free agent would be independent of trading for D'Arnaud

D’Arnaud has only just completed AA and so couldn’t (and shouldn’t) be counted on to jump to MLB in April.

by TheBigStapler on Dec 14, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

this

would be nice

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by astromets on Dec 14, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

2037

Dave Wright, Jr. leads the colorful, lovable Mets to a thrilling and improbable 7-game victory in the World Series against the Miami Gators.

by TheBigStapler on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about improbable

After Van Dickey’s Game 6 perfect game, the Mets had momentum.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

why is there no option

for buster posey?

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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

you have the wrong Giants catcher

they just non-tendered Eli Whiteside, he’s free for the taking! A great choice so long as the Mets don’t need a catcher to throw the ball, or catch the ball, or swing a bat at the ball.

The above comment is not affiliated with the San Francisco Giants, is not based on a secret source of team information, and may contain personal opinion.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 14, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball skills

Are false hustle.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Dec 14, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Hustle is false hustle,

but it’s also the new market inefficiency.

What isn’t false hustle?

I dunno. Vampires?

by Curtis3331 on Dec 14, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This

I like your thinking here.

by CCE718 on Dec 14, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you assume if we sign Castro he will only play 40 games?

Last year, Paulino caught 78 games and Bill James projects Tholes playing time to be identical to this past years

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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 14, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

I assume because he only had 174.1 innings at catcher last season.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 14, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Compare that with Paulino having over 500 innings at catcher last season

I just don’t see how Castro fits here.

A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Our backup catcher will have to play between 40-70 games.

Castro might break down before he gets to 40 games.

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by Michkin on Dec 14, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say closer to between 50-80 games

and yes, Castro doesn’t seem like a player that could handle that playing time

A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 14, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Do bill James projections

For games played mean anything?

"Let them be stud muffins"
-Tom Seaver

by piazza62 on Dec 14, 2011 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

maybe its Bills way of saying

you would be crazy if you played this guy more than x many games

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by astromets on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucas May all the way

Lucas, Lucas, Ike and Wright, against lefties, at least two of those guys will show their might!

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by astromets on Dec 14, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Nelfi Zapata

"I only wanted a few things out of life -- a wife, children, to play baseball and to hunt deer." - Turk Wendell

by Rey-O on Dec 14, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Prince Fielder

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by Michkin on Dec 14, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

You don't really think that man can crouch, do you?

Without splitting his pants?

A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 14, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We are not selling pants here

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by Michkin on Dec 14, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he have a girlfriend?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 14, 2011 8:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ron Hodges

Can we unretire number 42 for him?

Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.

by StorkFan on Dec 14, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

I say roll the dice with Lucas May

or least give him a fair shot to beat out Nickeas in spring training. It would be cool to see Castro again though.

by David G on Dec 14, 2011 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

I'm good with May

He can’t be worse than Mike Nickels, right?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Well played

Rec’d

Ralph Kiner: You've gotta change the script, I don't like the script.
Gary Cohen: What's wrong with the script?
Ralph Kiner: Well the script should be the Mets win every day.

by StorkFan on Dec 14, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Using Zips projections for Mike Nickeas

for 2012 and assuming roughly the same playing time for him as Paulino had this past year (Zips has Nickeas playing the nearly same amount of games as Paulino), we get a wOBA of .283. Almost exactly the same wOBA that Paulino had in 2011. So if you were fine with the job of Paulino as a backup last year, you should have no problem with Nickeas in 2012.

A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.- Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

They might have, I don't know

But seriously, the choice between playing for a championship caliber team and playing for a mediocre team in front of empty seats while being hounded by the NY media isn’t hard.

"Let them be stud muffins"
-Tom Seaver

by piazza62 on Dec 14, 2011 8:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If you want a veteran presence as your backup catcher, vote for Ivan

— The Russian Rodriguez!

Yes, I know he’s been priced out of the market; I don’t care. What’s the alternative? Vampires?

by Curtis3331 on Dec 14, 2011 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

I know we're going to be fighting it out for 4th place

Still, purposely going into the season with Nickeas on the roster will really annoy me. I hope they have a plan here.

by FrancoTAU on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

JAMARILLO

How about Jamarillo (non-tendered by the Pirates)?

by MDMETSFAN on Dec 15, 2011 7:14 AM EST reply actions  

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