Just Say No To Seth Smith Applesauce: Mets Not Interested In Dealing Niese For Rockies Outfielder, Latos to Cincinnati, Rollins Back to Philly

by Steve Schreiber on Dec 18, 2011 9:00 AM EST in Applesauce

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In case you actually took the Jon Niese-Seth Smith trade "rumor" from Friday evening for real, Jerry Crasnick of ESPN was pretty quick to quash it on Saturday morning, saying in a series of tweets that the Mets have "zero interest" in dealing Niese for the 29-year old outfielder. This shouldn't be surprising to anyone, right?

Further, Krasnick's heard that the Mets would need to be "knocked out" in order to consider moving Niese, who they highly regard. All of this basically jives with what we heard from Sandy Alderson last week at the Mets holiday party and what we've assumed all along: that the team is trying to assess the pitching market and exploit its best assets in order to capitalize on a sweetheart of a deal for the Mets, should one present itself.

There was a major trade involving the Reds and Padres on Saturday. Cincinnati acquired San Diego's ace Mat Latos in exchange for three highly touted prospects and a lottery ticket big leaguer. The Padres received 1B/OF Yonder Alonso, C Yasmani Grandal, RHP Brad Boxberger and SP Edinson Volquez. Latos is a great pitcher and just 24 years old, but it's still an incredibly impressive haul for the Padres and really, a solid deal for each team. Also of note: now that Latos is off the board, this should only help increase the trade value of guys like Gio Gonzalez and Niese. Supply and demand, right?

Jimmy Rollins and the Phillies have agreed to a 3 year contract worth $33 million, with an easily attainable option for a fourth year at $11 million. Here's hoping this deal goes very well for the Phillies (sarcasm font).

The winning bid for Japanese righty Yu Darvish has yet to be officially revealed but rumor has it that the winner of the Darvish sweepstakes put in a record bid that exceeded the $51.1 million the Red Sox paid to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka back in 2006. In other posting news, the Brewers have reportedly won the right to negotiate with 29 year old outfielder Norichika Aoki. The Yakult Swallows, Aoki's former team in the Japanese Central League, announced that they accepted the Brewers' $2.5 million bid.

Their free spending ways this offseason are mainly a by-product of a gift wrapped stadium courtesy of Miami-Dade County combined with many years of frugality, so is it time to Occupy The Marlins? Hey, wait a second...NO POLITICS! On the field, while the status of Hanley Ramirez is still a bit up in the air at the moment, Jose Reyes says that he is eager to play alongside his good friend. It seems kind of odd to me that the two haven't spoken since Reyes signed in Miami, though.

Finally in some great news, Giants fan Bryan Stow, who was brutally attacked on Opening Day 2011 at Dodger Stadium, spoke on camera for the first time since the beating. There's only a short clip of Stow in the linked article, as the entire interview will air on Monday night during the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams but this is truly an inspirational story. Best wishes go out to the Bryan and the Stow family in his recovery.

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I Understand That 2012 and 2013 are Shot

So I understand the point of trading Niese for a pitching or catching prospect two years away with a higher upside. The Mets need to target a return to contention in 2014 and serious contetion after that.

But do we even have a replacement level pitcher to replace Niese in the rotation? I mean, MLB isn’t going to allow the Mets to just not play the next two years, so they have to fill the innings.

by WT Economist on Dec 18, 2011 9:45 AM EST reply actions

Gee, Schwinden, McHugh, Harvey/Wheeler/Familia/Mejia in one to two years, generic FA signings...

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions

Hey guys

haven’t posted in.. a REAL long time, but I am one of those fans who breaks stuff and loses their sanity when my teams lose. So, I didn’t watch a single mets game this previous year beause I knew itd be a rebuilding season. Anyway, quick comment on Stow, I really didn’t like how the conflict (on ESPN at least) was portrayed last night. ESPN said that stow was attacked, unprovoked and merely for wearing his Giants gear. This is far from the truth, as he was drinking and supposedly yelling at Dodgers fans just like any other gloating fan. This doesn’t excuse at all what happened to him, but he is a grown man, and should have known when to stop with the gloating. i was at Dodger stadium several times when I lived out there, and I talked plenty of shit, but the minute I saw a guy with a shaved head and in “LA” tatooed in massive letters on the back of his dome, I shut my mouth. The Staples Center was a lot easier to talk shit, but at football and baseball games fans should exercise caution no matter how tempting it is to talk shit.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

Got it

so our civil society standards now are you can’t pay your way into a ballpark and cheer for the visiting team and against the home team without assuming the risk of gangbangers crushing your skull in the parking lot. Got it….

by pegleg52 on Dec 18, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

Which is not at all what he said, but…

by Curtis3331 on Dec 18, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions

.

by Ryan_86 on Dec 18, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

no but our societal standards have always been

at some point you need to turn your frontal lobe on and realize that yelling at massive dudes with shaved heads who have gloated about beating the shit out of fans before in what’s considered the worst/most dangerous fanbase/stadium in american professional sports is a poor life decision.

I mean if you see someone touch a stove and get burned are you then going to touch the stove yourself? For anyone over 5 I’d assume the answer is yes. Or anyone who has seen a “When keepin it real goes wrong” skit.

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions

did you read my post?

He was drunk and yelling expletives at opposing fans. In what scenario is it acceptable, much less intelligent, to drunkenly curse at a group of people who share a similar interest, and far out number you. My isssue came with the coverage from ESPN stating that his attack was unprovoked, which is far from the truth. Its sad what happened, but he brought the attention on himself, just jot the beating. People just need yo respect the other team and its fans when they are cisiting, and I admittedly an guilty of forgetting this at times.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I don't get how any of this would justify anything more than a little light mockery

In my view real “respect” for a fan base would be treating them like adults enough to deal with someone rooting for another team.

by anonymous on Dec 18, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

How does it not justify it?

Look at what happened to the guy. Some people are psycho’s, others dont care, and the most dangerous have nothing to lose. This isn’t a baseball, or even a Dodgers problem really, just look at what happened in San Fran when the Raiders went ot the Stick in the pre-season. Hell, despite both incidents occurring in CA, it isn’t even a Cali problem. It’s a human problem, and the only way to fix it is to be safe and smart.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions

And it wasn't

very smart of Stow to antagonize some crazy-ass Dodgers fans right after the game. Hated Rivalry, with the Giants coming of a WS win, and as irrational and downright stupid as the perp was for taking it that far… it also wasn’t very intelligent of Stow to give him/her/them any ammunition, and slightest justification to attack like that.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

This really sounds like pure victim-blaming to me

by anonymous on Dec 18, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

If a woman wears a short skirt in a bad neighborhood.......

by Evan_S on Dec 18, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

I do blame him

for inviting a reaction. I don’t blame him for what happened after though. How is this anything like getting hit by a drunk driver and blaming the person for happening onto the same road as said driver? . Essentially, something like this was bound to happen eventually, but one improves their chances at being in the wrong place when they drunkenly trash talk in a place that is infamous for the type of fan that would beat somebody into a coma.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions

Wow, just wow.

No, no, Stow deserves no blame for this. Being an ass to a fan does not warrant someone being beaten to within an inch of their fucking life.

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by Syler on Dec 18, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs

This.

Stow didn’t do anything that most of us do at games, and many more do every day. Just because he ran into a couple of drunk assholes who should have “Poor Impulse Control” and “Does Not Play Well With Others” forehead tattoos does not mean he’s to blame.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions

I don't understand

where do I blame him for being put into a coma? I made it clear that ALL I blame him for is what many many people do every time they go to a game. That’s it. "I do blame him

for inviting a reaction"

Also, where did I say that being an ass to a fan warrants being beaten to shit? I made it clear, over and over since the very beginning that MY ISSUE WAS WITH THE COVERAGE by ESPN. That it was an unprovoked attack. It. Flat. Out. Wasn’t. I don’t think it was the smartest move in the world to talk a buncha shit to those guys, but it isn’t uncommon at all, and it’s unfortunate what happebed. But, do you think if he acted like Steve Bartman did after Game 6 that we would even be talking about this incident right now? I never ever said that this was his fault, only that it could have just as easily been avoided.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 19, 2011 3:36 AM EST up reply actions

I think the issue is that the word "provoked" has, rightly or wrongly, a "justified" or "at fault" connotation.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions

They key word in your post is 'supposedly'

I don’t think any of us know just what went on, if he was just heckling the Dodgers, if he was specifically talking smack to Dodger fans who might have told him to shut up.

Even if he was constantly heckling the Dodgers team, it doesn’t matter. He paid his tickets, he’s well within his rights to cheer for who he wants and boo who he wants.

Even if he was talking smack to Dodger fans (which I agree isn’t all that smart or mature) it still doesn’t warrant the beating or put one iota of responsibility for what happened to Stow back on himself.
To make this kind of analogy, you’d have to conclude that women who wear tight shirts and/or short skirts deserve to be raped. Sort of ‘she was asking for it’ kind of mindset. One that is completely false.

No one has the right to beat some fan within an inch of his life, no matter how bad he might have been heckling them or their team. I realize that tempers – especially coupled with drinking – do sometimes get out of hand. But to beat with intent or not care if they killed him?
Way over the line.

by MetsFan4Decades on Dec 18, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs

he's not saying the dodgers fans have the right

he’s saying at some point you have to exersize common sense. Dodgers fans are fucking insane. This is a widely known an accepted fact. I think it might actually be the second law of thermodynamics. So at some point it’s your personal responsibility to not taunt a bear. For example (background I’m black and live in rural georgia) I generally don’t show up to mud bogging events and start arguing with people about the confederate flag. Because it’s just not a good idea.

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

What surprises me the most, is that there were still Dodgers fans at the stadium after the 7th inning

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions

This is the only insanity Dodger fans have

Who the fuck would pay for a ballgame, get there in the 3rd, and leave in the 7th?

Fuck them.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

yeah, can't understand the point of going at all if you're going to do that

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

But they have so much fun at the game! With their beach balls and what not!

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

The more I think about it, the more they deserved the McCourts

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

I bet that's what people say about us

and the Wilpons.

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by piazza62 on Dec 18, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions

What have we done though

besides suffer? At least Pitt fans have the Steelers, Cleveland had Lebron for a few years, Chicago has the Bulls and Bears. Most of us here are Jet fans (im a 49ers fan, so this year has been a blast but the previous 10 were hella-awful) and Knick or Net fans… There is all types of awful when it comes to those 3 -4 franchises.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

don't forget the Islanders... oh god I wish I could forget the Islanders

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah

I don’t know the first thing about hockey, except that i was ecstatic when a full season was missed back in 04 or whenever it was. Now, we just need NASCAR to.. leave.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I hated hockey for years (Thanks Whalers) but I'm trying to force myself to get back into it

i find it tough though, have about 2 decades of changes to the league and a whole slew of players I’ve never heard of to learn about. Not sure if it’s worth it just to fill time until baseball starts up.

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

Knicks baby!

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions

Now is the time to get interested in the Rangers if you're looking for a local team.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 18, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions

All you need to know is that Sydney Crossby is a pussy, and you're good

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

And that Marty Brodeur is a fatty.

by graves9 on Dec 18, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

Except he's not.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 18, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions

Who are you to question a all time great like Sean Avery?

just kidding he’s a shitty 4th liner at this stage.

by graves9 on Dec 18, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions

oops thought you were responding to my comment on Brodeur.

by graves9 on Dec 18, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions

He's Canadian, and therefore is

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions

So I guess this guy is a pussy too then:

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions

Touche.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 19, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions

This guy too:

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions

Wolverine spent enough time outside of Canada to excise his Canadianess

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 19, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions

Lame excuse.

And you still have to excuse away Mr. Captain there.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

Wolverine spent time in Japan training as a samurai

Of course that’s going to make you badass. Compare to fellow Canadian Northstar.

And, of course being the captain of the Rangers makes you anything but uncool!

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

Wolverine was a bad ass pre-Japan.

He was a feral beast.

But either way, they are still Canadian and not pussies.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions

I didn't want to have to do it, and as much as I love Wolverine, this is the end all be all:

Canada Sucks. This says everything you need to know.

by Evan_S on Dec 19, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions

And every other pop star is American.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions

Are you gonna compare the level of awfulness of this douche to other pop stars?

by Evan_S on Dec 19, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions

Is he really that much worse than Lady Gaga or Nicki Minaj or whatever her name is

or Kathy Perry or pop acts like The Backstreet Boys or 98 degrees?

by graves9 on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions

Lady Gaga is awesome

she makes pop music but she makes like God level pop music.

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by Gina on Dec 20, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions

God-tier

one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming

by Gina on Dec 20, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions

Even if she were talented

she is such a misguided person on every level that she would still be a waste of a human being.

Howard Stern sums it up here.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 20, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions

All you neede

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 6:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

How'd you like NBA the lockout?

My god I wished it was everlasting.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 18, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions

RA-men

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions

Gary Bettman is that you?

by graves9 on Dec 18, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

I dunno, say what you will about the team, but Mets fans are pretty dedicated.

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by KeithsMoustache on Dec 18, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

There's a lot of things you could say about Mets fans

But I don’t think an outsider would ever use the word “dedicated”

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by piazza62 on Dec 18, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions

Eh

Every fanbase has it’s frontrunner’s, Pomes’ and Neil Simons’.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

thats pretty much how every carolina football game is

and not to play into sterotypes but me, and most black people I know, live life by this type of schedule.

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

I remember when I first learned about CP time.

It explained a lot.

by Evan_S on Dec 18, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions

It's one of like 4 sterotypes I truly believe in

when I used to go to BSM (Black Student Movement) meetings on campus the official start time was always 6. The first week it started at 6 and everything but the first 20-30 minutes was spent on boring news/state of projects/anthems and stuff so me and my room mate decided we’d show up 20-30 minutes late and skip all the boring stuff.

And of course after the first week so did everyone else including President, Vice Presidents, faculty sponsor and everything.

This is why we’ll never overcome.

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by Gina on Dec 19, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

That's awesome.

by Evan_S on Dec 19, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions

That's fucking hysterical.

When I was in the ABC (Association for the Advancement of Black Culture), they were very specific that meetings and events would not start on CP time.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 19, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions

....

“What time you want me to be there?”
“Like five…. And five mean five. I don’t truck CP time. Five and change, I’m gone.”
- Marlo Stanfield

by Evan_S on Dec 19, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions

gina

First off hello, and its been a while since we have conversed on here! I wanted to mention, and this is in no way an insult or meant to be demeaning, but you always seemed incredibly smart and mature for your age (I vaguely remember you just starting college at the end of NY regular posting days at AA), but its been an absolute pleasure just to read your two posts in this small Convo. You appear to have grown emotionally and mentally

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

bah

I hit post by accident.

Grown exponentially both emotionally and intellectually. After the 2 posts I read from you, seriously all that came to my head was something along the lines of, " count it." You recognized and understood, then put into words what I was trying to say better than I could… and they were my own damn thoughts.

Anyway, enough with the nut hugging, I just wanted to say that its good to hear from you, and I hope the Mets gimme a reason to watch them this year… for in Sandy webtrust.

by MetsKnicksRutgers on Dec 18, 2011 2:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Hence the

comment from me ‘agree isn’t smart or mature’. Not something I would have done either as you can’t trust anyone you don’t know. Give a guy who cuts you off in traffic the finger and next thing you know he’s running you off the road or shooting at you.
Same reason I would not attend a Met/Philly came at CBP up to about 2010 with a Met jersey on.

My opinion still stands though. It’s a freakin’ baseball game at a ML baseball stadium. It’s not midnight on a deserted street in the Projects. Even if Stow was being obnoxious it still doesn’t warrant the beat down. Just proves that those thugs are even bigger a**holes than he was.

by MetsFan4Decades on Dec 18, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions

I had no idea Dodger fans had this rep for being violent sociopaths.

Anyone else not aware of this?

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions

I think it's more of Los Angeles based gangbangers who happen to be Dodgers fans than Dodger fans.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 18, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Makes sense.

"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."

by BobbyV_Incognito on Dec 18, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions

This makes sense

All I know of Dodger fans is that they’re big mouthed punks, but not in the actual violent way.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions

I

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions

I've always heard the same things about them and Raiders fans

Like Ogre said it’s more because the cities have major gang problems and large number of the gang members are fans of the dodgers.

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions

They overtook Philidouchia in

douchebaggery

Mets, Jets, Devils, United Football League

by BlueChill on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 AM EST up reply actions

I was not aware of this.

My mom and her sister are Dodger fans.

by Curtis3331 on Dec 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions

do they live in LA?

there was actually an ESPN article that skirted around the actual cause. Basically from what I understand for some reason the Angels became associated with immigrant populations in a negative way and as some sort of counter revolution large numbers of skin head associated gang members switched their allegiance to the dodgers because of the “Los Angelos” were associated with immigrants and in a hilarious twist of irony large numbers of children of immigrants also switched their allegiance to the dodgers to avoid the association, and in LA it happens that the non skinhead associated gangs happen to have large numbers of recent immigrants or children of recent immigrants. So ipso facto there’s a whole bunch of angry gang members at dodgers games these days…with a lot of beer. And a lot of skimping on security cause of the broke McCourts.

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by Gina on Dec 21, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions

Yakult Swallows

is a funny name. That is all

I believe in one Dickey, Maker of knuckles and balls

by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Dec 18, 2011 10:11 AM EST reply actions

Cosign

I wonder if it was a gimmicky name like the Raptors or Mighty Ducks that got mainstreamed.

by hotspur on Dec 18, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions

Also, MLB.com doesn't remove super racist comments on their website?

Check out the link about Darvish’s posting fee.

by hotspur on Dec 18, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions

Neither does ESPN.

Look at the comments on one of the old wilpon articles, there are multiple comments about how Selig and the Wilpons stick together because they are Jews with tons of racist reasoning.

Down 2 in the bottom of the ninth?
Lets Bring in Willie Harris!

by ShaqKazaam on Dec 18, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions

Jews stick together!

What, no that’s ducks. My bad.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 18, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions

They're also an older team, and you gotta consider language/cultural differences

The most common Imperial Japanese airplane was also called ‘the flying swallow’, the Ki-61 Hien

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 18, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions

Cotangent

by Evan_S on Dec 18, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions

turd ferguson

its a funny name

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by kendynamo on Dec 19, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions

Like an oversized hat?

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

It's funny because it's bigger than a normal hat.

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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 19, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions

Tiny hats are funnier.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions

Why does

Steve always label his posts “applesauce”? Ive alwats wondered that…… Can anyone tell me

by kubare24 on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions

Because it's the morning applesauce

by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 18, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs

This.

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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 18, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions

In other words, no, we can't.

Sorry, it’s just a fact of life.

by Curtis3331 on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions

I'm a little disappointed with the SABRos...

If Grandal, Volquez, Alonso AND Boxberger were available in a deal for Latos, couldn’t the Mets have gotten at least two of them for Niese + a prospect? I’ll withhold judgment until the end of the offseason but I think they may have missed an opportunity.

by sjohnson125 on Dec 18, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions

The Reds would still have to agree

by Evan_S on Dec 18, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions

I doubt we could have

The Reds were clearly interested in an “ace”. Had they been looking for solid value pickups to improve the team, this type of trade never would have happened. They were pretty clearly going for that top of the rotation guy regardless of the cost here, and I don’t think Niese at this point is that guy.

by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 18, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions

How? Why would they have traded 2 of them for Niese when they could trade all 3 for Latos

get a young cost controlled 200 inning a year ace? Baseball trades are less about 2+2=4 so 2+1=3 and more about thresholds.

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by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions

The Reds aren't looking for the best value right now

They are in a position to bounce back from 2011 and retake the weakened NL Central. They don’t need a 2/3 starter, they wanted an ace and they were willing to do what it takes get one. They want to win now, while they can hold on to Votto.

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by piazza62 on Dec 18, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions

Volquez is a risky play

by hotspur on Dec 18, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions

Niese value is too low right now because of his injuries

to me if they think the injuries are going to be a problem then trade him now. Otherwise if they think he can maintain last years numbers and go 190+ innings DO NOT FUCKING TRADE HIM PLEASE. Because he’s going to get way undervalued in arbitration and for most teams that’s going to cause his value to soar, as long as their aren’t a bunch of dumb teams trying to give away similar players which is always the problem.

one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming

by Gina on Dec 18, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions