Jimmy Rollins, Phillies Reach Accord, Mets Fans Something Something
Over the weekend, Jimmy Rollins signed a new three-year deal which will keep him in Philadelphia, barring a trade or asteroid strike, through at least the 2014 season, while a vesting option which is said to be easily attainable could tack another year onto the end. The annual salary is $11 million, which is $6 million less than Jose Reyes's deal with the Marlins and approximately $11 million more than what I make, which latter is neither surprising nor terribly unique among us non-ballplayers.
For the two parties most concerned, viz., the Phillies and Rollins himself, the contract is mutually agreeable. Rollins was said to be after a four- or five-year contract and, if reports of the vesting option are true, he essentially got those four years provided he can stave off injury for the balance of the deal. It's a fair bet that he will, too, for his greatest asset — apart from largely illusory attributes like grission, leadership, and the like — may be his health. Rollins has played an average of 147 games per year since 2001, and he has usually been a good offensive player relative to his shortstop-playing peers. He has neither the talent nor the charisma of Reyes, but he also lacks the former Met's apparent predisposition toward crural infirmity.
It's the great dilemma: Do you prefer the wonderful player for less time or the lesser player for more time? It depends on the players and on the talent disparity, of course, and a careful weighing of risks versus rewards.
The Phillies get a decent player who they already know, who the fans apparently like, and who may well retire some day having played every game of his career for the same team, which is exceedingly rare these days and has some celebratory value above whatever Rollins contributes to the team's success. Rollins is not a superstar: he's had just one excellent season, his MVP year of 2007, and he has never had an on-base percentage above .350. He does steal bases, both frequently and with a high rate of success, and I think he wears bandanas, which must have some hidden value I'm not aware of because they certainly look ridiculous.
As a Mets fan, I recoil at the thought of another four years of Rollins's stupid face in that wretched uniform playing for that detestable ball club. He's a good-but-not-great player who has been declared a winner by virtue of his association with a winning team. Does he make his teammates better? Maybe, though it's certainly debatable even as it remains essentially unknowable in practice. Does he make them much better? Almost certainly not, but that doesn't really matter because people who write about him (and root for him, to a lesser extent, or by extension of those who write about him) think he does and so that myth gets repeated ad nauseam until everyone just nods their heads at the slightest mention of it. Rollins is neither the first nor the last player to receive this treatment so I don't mean to make a special case of him, though I bring it up because he's the subject here and because this sort of anecdotal aggrandizement of ballplayers by the media and those within baseball is a thorn in my side of the most irritating sort.
As with most free agent deals, the Phillies are paying Rollins for the next three (or four) years based on how he played over the last few instead of how they might reasonably expect him to play while he's actually under contract (i.e., worse). However, the Phillies are playing through an oft-mentioned but still utterly enviable limited window of opportunity, with most of their best players at or beyond (or, in some cases, well beyond) the onset of age-related functional human decline, and their alternatives to Rollins were either considerably inferior or so horrifying we should avoid mentioning them altogether. The Phillies will have the highest payroll in the National League in 2012, again, but they will also be the most talented team in the league, again. Their ballpark is full and their coffers are likewise, so even though I find Rollins utterly repellant (as if that's any concern of the Phillies) it's hard to quibble with their decision to give him the contract they did.
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As a Mets fan, I recoil at the thought of another four years of Rollins's stupid face in that wretched uniform playing for that detestable ball club.
well said. ditto.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
I concur. Very well-spoken.
Proud supporter of a New York baseball team and a Boston football team. Yeah, deal with it!
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The 2011 New York Mets: I don't know what to describe them as...
Staunch Parishioner Of The First United Church of R.A. Dickey
I just hope
that he continues to decline like he did this year and they are stuck with him being an expensive liability (Bay) that they have to put out there because of what he’s making (Bay).
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions
I know now what 'crural' means.
thank you.
"I used to be legit. I was too legit. I was too legit to quit. but now I'm not legit. I'm unlegit. And for that reason, I must quit."
Never really minded J-Ro
I think he is good for baseball. I really think the Mets did themselves rather than him doing us in.
I think Pat the Bat has wrought more death and destruction on us than Rollins……Burrell is someone I love to hate.
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by Coolpapabell on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dictorino gets most of my hate.
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by Coolpapabell on Dec 19, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Hamels
True Douche™
Am I doing this right?
by brooklynberger on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
As if arguing balls and strikes FROM THE CF wasn't enough.
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He is a Phillie
Therefore he is hated…
by SFloridaMetsFan on Dec 19, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They call him "J-Roll"
I can’t see how he’s good or bad or anything for baseball as a whole. He’s bcome kind of . . . anonymous. His MVP is destined to be a trivia answer.
And the question will be:
“Who had no business receiving a single vote for the 2007 NL MVP but somehow won it anyway?”
Let's go have a beer, Doc.
Proud inventor of the "Oh Brett" meme.
by Crazy Nyce Dave on Dec 19, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I was happy with the deal.
It makes them tougher for the next two years during which we’ll be irrelevant, and then that much older and over-leveraged afterwards when, praise Dickey, we’ll be back.
Why do people assume the Mets will be any good by 2014
For all we know we fell into an Oriole abyss and may never have a winning season again.
"Let them be stud muffins"
-Tom Seaver
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by piazza62 on Dec 19, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
for all we know the mayans were right
and the universe is ending in a month.
HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.
December 2012
We have a year.
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Dec 19, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Fot all we know the Yankees
will be broke in 2013…
by SFloridaMetsFan on Dec 19, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Keeping a hint of sanity requires us to think that way
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
The 2012 Mets: Fortune cookie says come back in 2015
Because we have some highly touted prospects in the minors
and we’re not total pessimists.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 19, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Rollins’ 16 HRs would have led the 2011 Mets…
(Insert truthiness-filled rant about ‘bandbox’ here)
by EastFallowfield on Dec 19, 2011 5:35 PM EST reply actions
That's because we traded Beltran
#blameBeltran
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by Michkin on Dec 19, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And R.A. Dickey didn't want to show off and embarrass all of the hitters.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 19, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
#blameTurner
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He was overpriced and old. Mets wisely going the cheap and young route, except with Bay.
by EastFallowfield on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM EST reply actions
Not a bad deal for the Phils
in that, as these deals go, it’s mercifully short, and not so huge that it will hamstring them too far into the future, unlike, oh, I dunno, some other infield contracts they might have doled out of late. (Of course one could argue the per annum is high enough that it might as well be a four year deal.) They’re built to win now, as I’m sure I needn’t tell you.
Basically, if he racks up 10 WAR in the next four years they break even, right?
That sounds reasonable to me (from a management perspective).
As a Mets fan I am disgusted, disgruntled, distrustful and every other kind of Dis-word!
4 Years $11mill? This is no where near what he should be paid! I demand the Philthies pay him five times this much for three times as long!
$55m per year for at least 10 years is what he should have been paid!
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