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The Nose Knows Applesauce: Niese Trade Unlikely, Endy Signing Impossible


Quiet day on the news front, but let's lead off with some TRAID rumors. Or non-rumors as it were. Potential deals have swirled around Mets lefthander Jon Niese since the close of the winter meetings, but it now seems unlikely that the team will deal him. That's too bad, I really had my heart set on Seth Smith Travis D'Arnaud.

One way the 2012 Mets could have bought my undying loyalty would have been with Endy Chavez. Well, that plan is out the window now as Endy signed a one year deal with the Orioles. So I guess it is Josh Satin or bust. Sandy, Make a note of it.

With the Darvish bidding process complete (reportedly he's headed to the Blue Jays), teams looking for pitching, like the Rangers or Yankees, will have to turn to the trade market to find their next starter. The Cubs' Matt Garza is definitely available for the right price, and I am sure there will be plenty of King Felix rumors to keep the hot stove warm during the long winter. One of those team's interested in Garza is apparently the Friars, who just traded away a comparable, cheaper pitcher in Latos. BTBS thinks that's just odd.

The Diamondbacks have apparently added Jason Kubel to their team on a two year deal. Guess they really think the NL will have a DH when the Astros move to the AL in 2013. Or else they think Kubel can be an effective outfielder. But come on, that's just folly.

Star-divide

Hey, remember crazy ol' Carlos Zambrano? Well, he's pitching pretty well in the Venezuelan Winter League. Of course, this is the same league where Dylan Owen is posting a 4:1 K:BB ratio, so make of that what you will. On the plus side, he has not gotten into a brawl with his catcher or threatened to retire.

The New York Times published the most New York Times baseball piece ever, taking a look at what would have happened if there was no reserve clause for the first 100 years of baseball history. Included are such insightful nuggets as Lou Gehrig would have never taken the money and run, and Roberto Clemente would have signed with the Marlins (a team that didn't exist until 20+ years after his death).

Craig Calcaterra eviscerates ESPN "Legal Expert" Lester Munson over at Hardball Talk. A fun read for any lovers of schadenfruede. Or haters of the Worldwide Leader.

Also over at HBT, Drew Silva reports that the Cardinals are keeping up the hard press for one Carlos Beltran. But now who will get caught looking by Adam Wainwright curveballs in big moments?

John Sickels takes a closer look at the prospects involved in the Mat Latos trade. I still can't for the life of me understand why everyone is so high on Yonder Alonso. There is nothing in his minor league record to suggest he will be more than an average first baseman. He has a couple 60s on his bat/power. But he's a first baseman, and I just don't see an elite bat there.

Finally, and perhaps I have buried the lede here, Baseball Prospectus' Kevin Goldstein has a review of the sequel to the Yoenis Cespedes scouting video. Here's a preview of the awesomeness to come in the link.

"You know what the best part of watching Cespedes run 60 yards in 6.41 seconds is? Watching him get ready to do it for 53 seconds."

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Rizzo vs. Alonso

If I’m the Pads, I would start Alonso and let Rizzo spend a little more time in Triple A. Alonso seemed to fare better in the majors last year than Rizzo, albeit SSS and all. Then, assuming Alonso continues his good play, move him for more prospects to a team in the hunt and in need for some 1B offense. Then let Rizzo finish out the year.

by MetsCity on Dec 19, 2011 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Rizzo v. Alonso

That’s not the worst plan in the world, but the Pads run the risk of killing Alonso’s value in that stadium. They made the right move for a rebuilding team, moving a valuable, cost-controlled piece for a huge haul of close to ready prospects. The Pads system already had decent depth, and now it has gotten better at the top with Grandal and Alonso (even though I basically have Alonso as a B prospect). There’s rumors they might try Alonso in a corner OF slot, which is certifiably insane, he’s not even a good defensive 1b.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

As Sickels indicated, it might be smarter for the Pads to flip Alonso this offseason

Otherwise, yeah, he could easily turn into Adrian Gonzalez 2.0, a guy whose actual hitting talent greatly exceeds his trade value because Petco depresses his counting stats.

by anonymous on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Counting stats

Might suffer, but his triple slash should stay intact for the most part. And letting him play 1B is really the only option, as Petco is a bit spacious in the OF to have someone like Alonso patrolling out there. But hey what do I know, I root for a team who’s doing the same thing (see: Duda, Lucas).

by MetsCity on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yoenis Cespedes?

A bunch of announcers have their fingers crossed that he doesn’t end up on their team.

by hotspur on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

A lot of people are bashing the Reds for this deal

I don’t know why. Latos is an ace in the making, and cost-controlled for a number of years. Alonso is blocking by Joey freakin’ Votto, Grandal by another catching prospect. Volquez is a right-handed Oliver Perez, and then there’s Boxberger.

This reminds me of the Greinke deal, except San Diego gets marginally more talent for Latos. Yeah, it’s a lot to give up, but the Reds are in win-now mode and had no place for the best two pieces they gave up.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

One really cool thing about Latos is that he doesn't enter his 1st arb year until 2013

Whereas Greinke costs a bunch, which is why the Padres got more in return.

However, Greinke had already proven himself with a handful of awesome seasons including a monster Cy Young winning year and was in his prime, which gave the Brewers a theoretically greater short term boost.

by TheBigStapler on Dec 19, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not that people think the Reds shouldn't have gone after Latos

it’s that it seems like Grandal, Volquez, and Boxberger should have been enough.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Yu Darvish

If the talent matches the hype (I know, I know) and the Jays did get him, the AL East is really going to be interesting in 2012. I still can’t believe the Yankees have done nothing to upgrade that CC + junk rotation they have, not to mention an aging lineup. Sure, Montero will probably be a beast, but is he going to make up for continued age-related declines from A-Rod, Jeter, and Teixeira? Granderson is a good bet to regress as well.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Dec 19, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

That NYTimes article was atrocious

But I would like to add that Bill Lee would have signed with his hometown team, the Mercury Mets.

by guidishfish on Dec 19, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Apparently Braun tsted positive for "medication", not PEDs.

Link.
However, I think the biggest nugget contained in the article is that “celebrity journalism specialists” is an actual job.

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by Ogre39666 on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

hee hee

I like teh medicationz

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Dec 19, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I am kinda shocked the Padres

traded for Yonder, I guess a competition for the ‘best first base man’ never hurt anyone. but Yonder looks like a DH in the making to me.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Dec 19, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

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