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Jose Was Like My Son Applesauce: And When He Died a Part of Me Died, But You're the One Now, Ruben


If you happen to have just woken up after going to bed early last night, and, like me, make Amazin Avenue your first stop on the internet in the morning, I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you this: Jose Reyes is gone. The Mets couldn't match the 6 year, 111 million offer from the fish, and while we can joke about how he won't see year 3 of this deal in Miami, or how Loria will need some of that cash for bail money. It still hurts. It hurts bad.

If you want to get all misty eyed with some lovely Reyes retrospectives, you can go here:

Greg Prince of Fear and Faith in Flushing

Patrick Flood

If you want some cold hard analytics about the deal, there's these:

Dave Cameron of Fangraphs

Rob Neyer of Baseball Nation

Toby Hyde at MMLB

And if you prefer New York beat reporters being jerks:

Joel Sherman of the Post

John Harper of the Daily News

The Daily News also has a photo montage of Jose Reyes' Met career. You will have to provide your own copy of Fleetwood Mac's "Landslide" to play while it runs.

Josh Thole is taking it okay, putting a brave face on it. As for me, I am going to curl up after work with a bottle of chardonnay, a pint of Cherry Garcia, and Adele's "Someone Like You" on repeat. At least we still have R.A. Dickey.

Here's Sandy Alderson's thoughts on the whole thing.

Hey, we'll probably get outbid for Octavio Dotel, too. Not going to cry about this one, since Dotel is basically a ROOGY. Not liking this whole Matt Capps things, though. He's just not that good. Also not good, Luis Ayala. Seriously, he's a bad idea.

Ted Berg remembers Pedro Martinez, who in case you didn't know, was awesome at baseball.

I'm sure the Mets are just doing their due diligence on K-Rod, like they are on all potential closers. I don't see this really amounting too much. Have to imagine Rodriguez and Boras want at least Heath Bell money.

And finally, I'll have words for the Wilpon's after the jump. (text will be NSFW)

Star-divide

Okay, look Fred. Just sell the fucking team already. We all know this is going to happen. Probably in 2014. But you are just going to keep kicking the goddamn can down the road, aren't you? I've had to sit through you throwing bags of money at Jeremy Burnitz and Mo Vaughn and Jason Bay, but when a homegrown star and one of the five best players in franchise history hits free agency, you cry poverty. You have a huge share of the biggest and wealthiest market in America, but you managed to either be an idiot or a fraud with regards to your finances. Yes, the six year deal is a risk. Yes, it might be an overpay. Yes, winner's curse and all that. But if you are going to own a team in New York City, act like it. This would never happen in the Bronx. Sell the fucking team you asshole.

Now that I have squandered what little journalistic integrity I could claim. Let's continue with the news.

The winter meetings kick off today, so we can expect the usual flurry of trades, free agent signings (well, other free agent signings) and the always exciting Rule 5 draft. It's especially exciting now that the Mets could really use a second baseman. Hey, maybe Brad Emaus is eligible again! The Rangers are looking for a frontline starter. As are the Yankees. And even MLB.com doesn't want to try and guess what those Phillies are going to do. Hint: They are going to give two years to a guy with a career .288 OBP.

Manny Ramirez is staging a comeback. This seems like it will be a great idea for whoever signs him. NOT!

Those jerkface Marlins might not be done yet, as now they are targeting Albert Pujols. They do realize they are still like the third best team in the division, right? And that no one is coming to their horrible new stadium? But it's nice to know that you can tank for years, collect revenue sharing money, possibly commit bribery to get a publicly funded stadium, and then spend like a drunken sailor on shore leave.

For all your cool graphs about bunts, ( or, if you prefer, BUNTZ!) take a look at Beyond the Box Score's Traditional Managing Index.

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Im memorium (Not gonna lie. I cried a bit finding this)

Sir, Our math shows that the bird is equal to or GREATER THEN the word. CHECK IT AGAIN!!!!

by statusquo on Dec 5, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

This is what kills me the most.

The squandered chances. That this group, with all of the talent of Wright, Reyes, Beltran and everybody else only ended up with one measly division title to show for it. Not even a World Series appearance. Not even a return trip to the postseason. One division title. I always hoped to see David Wright, Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran celebrate a championship together at Shea (and now Citi Field) but that hope is just a missed opportunity now.

It’s the end of an era, everyone. The New Mets are officially dead.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Greened

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Dec 5, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

how is this not more greened? GREEN

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Dec 5, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It needs to be plaid

It’s that good.

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

This is, like, exactly how I feel.

by JoshNY on Dec 5, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it sums up how we all feel.

Sir, Our math shows that the bird is equal to or GREATER THEN the word. CHECK IT AGAIN!!!!

by statusquo on Dec 5, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Except for "it might be an overpay"

Which it pretty clearly isn’t. That it’s a reasonable, market-rate contract makes the whole thing that much uglier and less forgivable.

by anonymous on Dec 5, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Manny Ramirez is staging a comeback. This seems like it will be a great idea for whoever signs him. NOT!

How soon before we make our offer?

Sir, Our math shows that the bird is equal to or GREATER THEN the word. CHECK IT AGAIN!!!!

by statusquo on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

.

‘The Day the Music Died’.

by MetsFan4Decades on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

While driving to work this morning, I realized something

the Mets just let their first and only guy to win a batting title go to another team.

One day, this team is going to kill me.

by fxcarden on Dec 5, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

week officially ruined

Thanks

I hate Philadelphia so much.

by the caveman on Dec 5, 2011 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

BULLPEN

With all the relievers on the market right now the Mets are focusing on Capps & Ayala? Hope that doesn’t pan out. How about spending the Reyes money on multiple needs instead of going to one player?

by MDMETSFAN on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

who is available to fill multiple needs

one does not simply walk into mordor...unless winter is coming

by Gina on Dec 5, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

What does Nick Evans have to do with it?

(obligatory)

"RBI’s does measure something – Wins."
-Bayonne Mets Fan on MMO

by Dandy Salderson on Dec 5, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

It just never gets old

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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden

by Russ on Dec 5, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This stinks

"RBI’s does measure something – Wins."
-Bayonne Mets Fan on MMO

by Dandy Salderson on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

If I trusted ownership

I would rationally say it was a reasonable move to not sign a 6 year deal with an injury prone speedster whose legs are in question. But the Wilpons are morons, greedy, and delusional in their stranglehold on this franchise. Yes lets LOWER ticket prices in 2012 because fans won’t want to pay more to see a losing team!! These guys have no idea how to take their diamond in the rough brand and turn it into a shining gemstone. How can they not understand that building and spending for a winning team at all levels – farm system and draft, medical staff, coaching, 1 year spot acquisitions AND a handful of long term big money investments is going to make them RAISE ticket prices. And once they build the brand they can sustain it, even with big money mistakes (see Yankees and now Phillies)….what a complete cluster f*ck of ownership we have. Can the fans do ANYTHING to get through to these idiots and make thenm feel pain……I really like Sandy but I am now convinced he was hired because the Wilpons feel he could lower the payroll and pay for his own salary ten times over by being a credible pawn to weather the media shit storm that continues to surround this losing franchise.

by nynjmetsfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Fangraphs

That article pissed me off even more, seeing how the contract could quite honestly be a bargain, and even if he misses significant time, he’s still earning that money. So much for all that talk of the Marlins overpaying him.

by MetsCity on Dec 5, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

I always felt that there was a chance Jose would go

and, I’d accept it if we were outbid by a competent franchise like the Brewers.
but the Marlins? BAH

AAARRRRRRRSSSSSHHHHHHHHAAAAAAVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!
Dream goal!

by Aidan Gibson on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

How come the Mets get the 3rd round pick and the Padres get the 2nd rounder?

Jose signed a fatter contract compared to Bell.

If it’s just the timing of the signings, then the signing team can frequently screw over division rivals.

by hotspur on Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Elias rankings

Bell was a higher ranked closer than Reyes was a shortstop. Which is a stupid way to do things, but it’s the way they do it. I think if the Marlins sign Fielder or Pujols it would bump the Mets to round 4, don’t know about Wilson.

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by Jeffrey Paternostro on Dec 5, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, thanks

Bell being considered more valuable despite being paid much less makes about as much sense as any of the rest of this.

by hotspur on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I read the SB article

But I refuse to read any of the scumbag ESPN or NY media articles. Im pretty sure that moron Rob Parker will write one later today as well. Every pathetic excuse for a sports writer will get their cheap shots in today.

Mets, Jets, Devils, United Football League

by BlueChill on Dec 5, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Parker already did

He’s bashing the Mets for letting Reyes walk (not surprising).

by MetsCity on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Somebody should write an article

bashing Rob Parker for being a moron.

Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
You might know me as mistermet.

by Steve Schreiber on Dec 5, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Ever notice

How scumbag Yankee propagandists always write more attack garbage on the Mets than they do on their own team?

Mets, Jets, Devils, United Football League

by BlueChill on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course

If ESPN wanted to be objective and credible about their coverage of the Mets, they wouldn’t have hired Adam Rubin. I know he’s better than most Met beat writers, but they signed the guy who had a news fiasco with their (then) current GM. That tells me exactly how you want everything Met related spun.

I never expect a fair shake from ESPN and really none of us should.

by MetsCity on Dec 5, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Rubin was the only good Espn New York hire

Look at who is covering the Yankees and they’re employing O’Connor and Parker too.

by graves9 on Dec 5, 2011 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Do you know that's a requirement to become a Yankee propagandist?

See? That other team is terrible! Come join us! Evil Empire, Scmevil Empire. You could be a Mets fan instead, but that’s even worse! And here’s how!

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Dec 5, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't he write an article saying the Mets shouldn't keep Reyes?

I believe his rationale was because the Mets signing Hampton worked out terribly. Of course they never did sign him.

by graves9 on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Marlins having a protected pick

Is the urine-flavored icing on this shit cupcake.

by David G on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

-100%

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Dec 5, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I know I'm late to the party

But how long before people start shopping Mr. Met and/or Wilpon with “I am the 99%” signs?

by JayWise on Dec 5, 2011 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

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