Is Reyes to Marlins worse than Strawberry to Dodgers in 1990?

Reyes may certainly go on to do great things in his career. Though he may also get injured and become a shell of the former player never reaching his potential. Time will tell. ----- Well, that's pretty much what happened with Strawberry. Straw was 29 years old in 1990. He had over 250 or so home runs. He was on pace to have a shot at the 500, 600 or 700 HR club (yes, before steriods were in vogue; or as they were becoming popular). But as much as Straw's departure hurt, it was somewhat lessend going forward by his complete burn out. He left the Mets in 1990 with great potential to smash records and finished, albeit somewhat stingingly with the Yankees, with only 335 HRs. A career with so much promise in 1990, virtually crashed and burned. ------ Sure, Reyes decision hurts now. But as the lesson from Straw shows, its really what they do from here that determines how bad it really was. We shall see.

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by nerfan on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 AM EST reply actions

but only because i was a wee lad at the time and everything seemed bigger

by nerfan on Dec 5, 2011 7:24 AM EST reply actions

Doesn't hurt nearly as much

Straw was a centerpiece of one of our only two WS champs. His departure marked the official end of a great era.

While Jose is just as exciting as Straw was, the 2006 near miss doesn’t compare with the 1986 championship. Jose’s departure marks the end of an ultimately disappointing chapter in Mets history marked by a near-miss, consecutive collapses, the Madoff scandal and a severe drop in club performance.

To me Straw is just as exciting but part of one of the greatest of Mets memories while Jose is equally exciting but part of the most disappointing memories the club has had.

I first saw Jose when he was coming up through Bingy and loved watching every minute of him but if (and I know it’s not) the choice was winning without Jose or falling short with him, I’ll take winning every time.

by cpins on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 AM EST reply actions

Well said

by CervezaVerde on Dec 5, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions

This is this generation's losing Strawberry moment, at any rate

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 5, 2011 7:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions

Yeah, I think the Mets just lost a bunch of young fans for a lot of years, if not forever

by anonymous on Dec 5, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

If that happens, those people really weren't fans

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 5, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions

Hogwash

People aren’t fans because they loved the team’s best, most exciting homegrown player in twenty years, and felt betrayed when the team, despite having one of baseball’s highest payrolls, couldn’t retain him at market value? This is some jerkish No True Scotsmanism right here.

by anonymous on Dec 5, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

Absolutely; Scotsmen need not apply

If someone renounces their fandom because a player they liked got moved, or because the team isn’t winning enough for their liking, they are not acting in accordance with the definition of fan(atic), “a individual with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal”.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 5, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions

Fantasy Baseball aside, as Seinfeld says, you root for a uniform.

[Speaking of comedians…What’s the difference between a Scotsman and the Rolling Stones? The Stones said, “Hey, you, get of of my cloud!” The Scotsman said, “Hey, MacLoud, get off of my ewe!”]

by CervezaVerde on Dec 5, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions

Though of an analogy:

Akin to someone abandoning their religion because their favorite priest/rabbi/imam/anything else got transfered/left/retired/whatever else.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 1:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

It's all about the winning

If the Mets go from 72 wins to 85 fans will be juiced. From 72 to 65 there’ll be more hot dog wrappers blowing around Citi Field than ticket stubs.

Winning is an odd alchemy – Wright recovers, Duda explodes, Ike is the real deal and Santana is healthy/85% of old self they could surprise. I doubt they will but I remember ’69 or a better analogy ’73

by cpins on Dec 5, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions

After the straw departure...I stuck around for another couple years before giving up baseball for 13 years

Hopefully the same thing doesn’t happen to others.

by Mike Clemente on Dec 5, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

You blame Straw departure or the strike?

by CervezaVerde on Dec 5, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

nowhere near as bad

The Mets now are a disaster. I wouldn’t begrudge any player who decided to leave, especially if the Mets didn’t come close to matching the offer.

Strawberry was leaving a perennial contender that hadn’t finished lower than 2nd in 7 years and he had won a ring with the team. To reject the Mets of that era hurt a lot more.

Mark Cuban for owner! Save us from the Wilpons!

by Greenpoint Ian on Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions