Source: Ramirez reportedly will not play to Marlins 3B - ESPN
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"Hanley did not want to play third base and the Marlins were informed of the boy thought," said the source. "Rather than ask for a change, what he has done is to inform you not want to play another position other than shortstop," he said.
Ramirez is owed $47 million over the next three seasons.
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by Russ on Dec 6, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL at Hanley.
The Marlins are actually looking decent for the first time in a while, and he wants to abandon ship, because they’re forcing him off a position he’s awful at.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only BLUE WALLS.
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by Syler on Dec 6, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Know what's really funny about this?
I read about it at the same time i’m listening to Keith Law on his podcast talk about Hanley being “a plus fielder at third base”.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
This actually makes the run at Pujols make sense
Dumping Hanley’s $15m while adding Pujols at $22m or so is only a net +$7m. Bet this was their plan all along.
Looks like a guy that peaked early
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Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
Yeah, I can't imagine
it will be that easy to dump Hanley after a subpar season.
by dontstopbelieving on Dec 6, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Someone will take a chance on him.
At short or perhaps as an option at third.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
I doubt it
part of their Pujols recruiting pitch would be the chance to play in a lineup with Reyes and HanRam. Plus, HanRams value couldn’t have dropped any further coming into this offseason – although it has now that he made it public that he won’t move to third base – so there is no way that this could be their plan
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 6, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
What if he turns out to be the next Jason Bay?
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He's only 27 and he plays shortstop.
I’d take the bet that he rebounds.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 6, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Then we'll move him to third
Wright to left, Bay to center, Ike to right, Tejada to first, Thole to second, Torres to first, and platoon Murphy/Turner at catcher
…success?
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by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Dec 7, 2011 4:07 AM EST up reply actions
2 first basemen, no shortstop
I see what you did there
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by Bobby Baseball on Dec 7, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Why cant i rec this 45 times?
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by ScottfromPeekskill on Dec 6, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
cuz it will never happen
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by SuperSantana on Dec 6, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
He’s a moron. Especially if Pujols comes on board.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
Of course the other "terrifying" thought
Move Reyes to CF and Hanley remains at SS? Is there a clause in Reye’s contract that says he will only play SS?
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
Hey
stupider things have happened before.
Just like moving Reyes to 2B for Kaz.
Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.
Not really
That’s pretty much unprecendented… you’d increase Reyes’ risk of injury and decrease his value instantly.
If I was an owner of a club that signed Reyes and moved him to CF, I would fire my general manager immediately.
Oh pissing blimey there's jam coming out of the walls!
so you're saying
the Marlins should move him to C or 1B?
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by nymgb44 on Dec 6, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
The same could be said for our ownership
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by Coolpapabell on Dec 6, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and it was a couple of nights ago
but now it is our turn
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by astromets on Dec 6, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and this is why you don't use Google translate
to write your high school spanish papers kids
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by Coolpapabell on Dec 6, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
What?
Were you not informed of the boy thought?
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by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Dec 6, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
can we haz some hanley?
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by Blame-everyone-else on Dec 6, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions
I am sick and tired of professional athletes saying they don't want to play a position
If you are getting paid fifteen fucking million dollars to play baseball and you are complaining because you don’t want to play third base then I don’t want you anywhere near my team. I don’t want you in my organization period.
This speaks volumes about Hanley’s character. He is not a team player and he is certainly not a role model for kids. He is under contract to play baseball and nowhere in the contract does it mention fielding position. The TEAM is the party that decides which position the player plays. The player has no say in this. I am sick and tired of the team listening to a player when he says he does not want to play third base. I don’t give a shit.
I would say that I want the Marlins to force Hanley to play third just to spite him, but I really hope that he gets BENCHED and is not allowed to play at all. If you aren’t going to hustle to first base on every single ground ball, and you are going to complain about which position you are playing , and you aren’t going to support the club when they are in the midst of their biggest offseason in franchise history, then YOU DON’T DESERVE TO PLAY IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.
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by Bobby Baseball on Dec 6, 2011 5:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's not his job
He’s a SS, not a 3B.
The IT specialist, it’s not his job to provide security, or clean the bathrooms.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Where in Hanley's contract does it say he is to play shortstop?
As far as I know Major League Baseball contracts just require the team to pay the player money in return for the player playing baseball.
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by Bobby Baseball on Dec 6, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Why have starting pitchers, relievers specific roles, or position players who don't juggle positions?
My workstudy job at school, on my paycheck, it just says Federal Workstudy Program, my personal info, and tax stuff. Says nothing about what they actually trained me to do, and what I’ve been doing for the past three months. Would it make sense to move me to a job that is semi-related that I didn’t choose (I got to pick where they assigned me), and am I not allowed to be angry about arbitrarily being moved?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's not really an arbitrary move
Hanley has been awful at SS for years, and this isn’t the first time it’s been suggested he moves to another position.
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Doesn't matter if he's Keith Hernandez or Mike Jacobs
These are things that can be taken into account when deciding if he wants to make a fuss or not, or how the the Marlins want toto approach things, but the points made above still stand.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 7:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unfortunately for the Marlins they waited to sign another shortstop to a huge contract before moving him.
It was inevitable though. I’m a surprised the Marlins didn’t discuss it with him previously. Then again, I’m not.
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would it make sense? probably not
could it happen without you having a say or anyone giving a shit? every single time
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Are you getting paid millions of dollars to play baseball?
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by Bobby Baseball on Dec 7, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
He's an employee of the Marlins, and they're paying him oodles of money
If they want him to move from a position he’s been absolutely terrible at, they have every right to do so.
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That he's making millions is a detail that has no bearing on things
Just because he’s wealthy doesn’t mean he should be content to be transfered to a position he doesn’t want to go to, and vice-versa, that if you don’t make a lot, you should be happy if your employer moves you.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 7:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Too bad for him
Again, he’s an employee of the team, and being paid on a certain level of performance. He’s not performing defensively at SS, so he’s being asked to move to a position that he might perform adequately at.
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And too bad for the Marlins
They paid him all that money to be a shortstop. He is a shortstop. He has always been a shortstop (true, or no?) and and wants to continue being a shortstop. He is under no compulsions to move, nor is he under any compulsions to be happy about it if the Marlins force him.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 7:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well he's under contract, so he has to move. Simple as that.
He would have to be wildly delusional to believe he was going to remain at SS for the entire length of the deal.
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So, he should be happy about such a scenario?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't say that, but he should just accept that it's whats best for the team
and most likely him
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I think you're missing that it's not Hanley being defended,
it’s the idea that employees can expect the job they signed for to be the job they go on doing.
Obviously, Hanley is going to have to come around to not being a shortstop. Obviously, it’s going to be a ton of fun to watch his pain and agony while he does. Nevertheless, sweeping declarations that because he’s being paid fifteen fucking million dollars he has no say in his employment situation are just wrong.
Players change positions all the time. What makes him special?
Again, he’s getting paid a premium to perform well at a position offensively and defensively. The Marlins thought he would do that at SS, but he hasn’t, so he’s being asked to move to 3B. It’s not like he’s being asked to move to C or something like that.
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Just because he sucks at it, or is being paid a lot to do it doesn't mean he has to accept it
He’s been a shortstop his entire Minor League career minus 11 games at 2nd base, 3 games at 3rd base, and 1 game at DH. He’s been a shortstop his entire Major League career minus 5 games at DH. Why should he voluntarily vacate the position he became a baseball player to play at, or accept it graciously? Because there are people who are better at it than him? There are also people who are worse at it than him (Asdrubal Cabrera and Yuniesky Betancourt), so now what? Because he’s being paid a lot by the Marlins? There are players who make comparable amounts who are worse at baseball- the offensive and/or defensive aspects- so now what?
At the end of the day, he’s going to be moved because that’s how baseball works, but he has every right to fight it, bitch about it and moan- and he’s completely justified doing so.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Remember that Jeter refused to move when A-Rod arrived and agreed to play 3rd
even though A-Rod was the better SS.That A-Rod is such an unselfish team player@
by Putnan Prince on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
why should he do it?
because the Marlins are paying him to help win a WS – his job is do what is best for the team to help them win the WS
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the money does come into play
because people would kill for less money and he won’t move 40 feet to his right – a move that could ultimately help his career
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You make an interesting comparison
Although it’s a bit on the extreme end.
by TheBigStapler on Dec 6, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
The difference
Btw IT specialist and janitor is a tad larger than the difference btw ml ss and ml 3b
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by HotChipWillBreakYourLegs on Dec 6, 2011 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when the IT specialist gets $15 mil/anum
then it’s time for me to switch careers
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Every time I go to a Cyclones game,
My dad likes to remind me that “That could of been you”- the perrenial name of my fantasy baseball team.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 6, 2011 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ok but
HanRam is a lot more qualified to suddenly switch to 3B than most IT specialists would be to switch to security suddenly. His job is baseball player, his salary is more than most people could accumulate in an entire lifetime, and his selfishness is embarrassing – it is DJ level ridiculousness, coming from a guy who has never helped his team be anything more than mediocre.
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Well Marlins
We have a third baseman……..
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Bite your tongue
The thought of Wright and Reyes manning the left side of an infield for another team (let alone the irritating Marlins)…I mean, wow.
by dontstopbelieving on Dec 6, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Unless you mean Willie Harris!
by dontstopbelieving on Dec 6, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Only Alex Anthopoulos can pull off a trade like that
My thing is that they make a move bereft of sentimentality, by letting Jose walk. Now you can make a shrewd move by netting an impact player at SS, and you let your hearrt strings rule your thought pattern? This won’t happen, but I would kick some tires on this thing.
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Chin lu Hu can play 3B.
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by Michkin on Dec 6, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent...EXCELLENT!
Sit back, grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.
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by Steve Schreiber on Dec 6, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Wonder how he feels about 2B?
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by Ogre39666 on Dec 6, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Did Reyes actually sign yet ?
I mean like, ink to paper ?.
Could this whole thing come apart ?.
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Well, has Reyes passed his physical yet?
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This would be the most amazing thing ever
Not going to happen, but it would still be awesome.
LOL
And more lol. Once an idiot, always an idiot.
That's cool, he can be the backup SS.
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by Michkin on Dec 6, 2011 6:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Good
I hope this turns into a big, public mess.
by James Kannengieser on Dec 6, 2011 6:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
When did the Mets and Marlins switch identities?
It’s like a Judge Reinhold movie.
And imagine what happens when they ask Gaby Sanchez to move for Pujols. NOT HAVIN’ NONE OF THAT.
by tmu on Dec 6, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They didn't switch identities...
REYES MOOVD ON ADN BROT DA LAZY ENJOYS TOO MUCH PUBIC
DEBACACLES WTH HIM
Hahahaha
This translation is almost as bad as Hanley’s attitude.
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Reyes hasn't signed yet, has he?
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it's the winter meetings
all the GMs are feverishly reading teh blogs to help guide them
One day, this team is going to kill me.
Omar is still waiting for Catmeat's 2009 AAOP
Maybe that explains why he sucked as a GM in 2009 and 2010.
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If the Marlins win
it will be in spite of themselves. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
is this real life?
Tonight couldn’t make up for losing Jose, but the Mets drastically improving their bullpen while the Marlins hot plate seems to be crashing into their lap is pretty awesome. Considering the amount I despise the Marlins even when they are in last place, I am pretty sure they are actually my least favorite team, so I want to see them burn, baby, burn
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