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February Hodgepodge - Reporting Early, Cain and xFIP, Sternberg As Owner, Bullpen Coach Jon Debus

AKA thoughts on topics unworthy of separate posts.

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1. I'm really trying to avoid pulling an Andy Rooney in this space but sometimes it's warranted. Every other post this week by various Mets blogs in my Google Reader had a similar theme -- "Why hasn't [lightning rod player] showed up early to Mets camp? Why doesn't [lightning rod player] care as much as David Wright and Daniel Murphy?" My response: does it matter? What's important is how players look and perform once camp officially starts. For all we know, the players who haven't yet reported are working harder than those in Port St. Lucie. And maybe some of the guys who have reported are drinking margaritas by night and practicing hungover by day.

Additionally, the four players generally lambasted for not showing up (and their supposed lack of caring) -- Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes, Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo -- are in contract years. They have extra incentive to be in the best shape of their lives. Do people really think Beltran is sitting at home on the couch eating eclairs instead of working out? Or that Reyes participating in an event encouraging kids to go to school means he isn't taking his job seriously? Please. Some fans seem to care more about appearances than anything, as if an extra week in Florida will make all the difference this season. It's great that Murphy means business and showed up early, but it won't matter much if he can't field second base worth a lick and repeats his 2009 OBP of .313. I'm guessing the complaints are borne out of a paucity of Mets stuff to discuss. Hopefully once camp starts the whining will end. And so will my whining about whining.

Also, Reyes says he's put on some muscle this offseason and re-gained his trademark speed. And "sources" say Beltran is near 100%. I suppose it's best to take these with a grain of salt, just like every hopeful spring training puff piece. Regardless, the news is better than nothing and monster years for Reyes and Beltran would be glorious.

2. Good job this week by Dave Cameron at FanGraphs for his posts about DIPS anomaly Matt Cain (see post #1, post #2 and post #3). The Giants hurler has drastically outperformed his peripherals in 1000+ career innings -- his BABIP and HR/FB rate are consistently below average, both at home and on the road. As a result, aspiring SABRs everywhere have constantly referred to him as lucky, overrated and destined for ERA regression. But as a True SABR, Cameron dug a little deeper into the numbers, discovering that righthanded Giants pitchers have maintained a low HR/FB rate over thousands of innings. This led to questions about whether the Giants have some organizational philosophy or method to help pitchers suppress homers. Additional questions trump definitive conclusions. Cameron didn't simply use xFIP as a blunt weapon to end a discussion. He researched an outlier and discovered something really cool. Well, cool in the context of baseball nerdery.

3. The rumor, or whatever it was, that Rays owner Stuart Sternberg might be interested in buying the Mets was met with a certain amount of derision by parts of the Mets Internets. Fans worried that he would run the team like a small market franchise based on his ownership background, dooming the Mets to years of Rays-esque $70 million payrolls. I say bollocks to that. Sternberg would be a dream owner. He's from New York, a Mets fan and has been a large part of the Rays' turnaround in the late 2000s. I'm speculating here but finance guy Sternberg likely understands the difference in revenue outlets between the Rays and the Mets. Methinks he would run the Mets like the big market bully they should be. He is also known for not meddling with the front office. Sternberg for owner!

4. New Mets bullpen coach Jon Debus has a great look -- the aging 1980s high school movie villain. Via Adam Rubin at ESPN NY:

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I don't get the anti Sternberg sentiment.

I mean, its not like his team spends money like the Marlins or Pirates who pocket most of the Revenue Sharing. The Rays are a small market team but I bet they spend a high % of Revs.

Also, they’re arguably the best run team in baseball on a per dollar basis and we’re arguably the worst. Even if we assumed he’s a cheapskate, I’d bet my life savings that the Sternberg Mets with a $100M payroll would outperform the $150M payroll Wilpon Mets of this decade.

by FrancoTAU on Feb 11, 2011 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

Given their financial limitations, TB "overspent" last year because they thought it was worth doing.

When they asked Friedman if they were going “all-in” (and presumably rebuild after that), he said something like “we are extending ourselves financially this year, but not talent-wise”. If anything, they understand what window of opportunity means and try to take advantage of that without selling the future.

That said, Sternberg is just a wild speculation. There is no indication or evidence that this solution is considered. It’s not even clear if the Wilpons will manage to sell just a part of the team or if they’ll be forced to sell it all.

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by Michkin on Feb 11, 2011 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sternberg is best case scenario

And I would say worst case would be the Dolans. Even more than Wilpon just keeping the team.

"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington

by Pauly C on Feb 11, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That sounds about right

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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier

by Russ on Feb 11, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is it bad?

I don’t see why its bad if Sternberg were to come here and run the Mets like a small market team. So what if our payroll is “only” $70 million if were winning. The Rays win with that and there’s no reason to believe the Mets wouldn’t as well. The payroll would come up when the players we develop need to be re-signed. That would be the only difference because I’m sure he would have re-signed Crawford if it wouldn’t have killed the team for years.

by ZZPops on Feb 11, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't there be an issue with Sternberg owning two franchises?

Or is that completely legal?

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by Hasan Paliwala on Feb 11, 2011 4:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Change the name of the Tampa Bay Rays to the Tampa Bay Brooklyndodgers

and swap teams. Everyone is happy.

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"Bounding and astounding!" - Clyde Frazier

by Russ on Feb 11, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Like when John Henry owned the marlins and then bought the red sox. He sold the marlins simultaneously to another ML owner Jeffrey Loria.

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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 11, 2011 8:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I second this motion.

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by JoeBighead on Feb 12, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, Van Wilder kinda ruined them for me

even though they’re delicious

Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?

by KeithsMoustache on Feb 12, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Most disgusting scene I've ever watched in a movie.

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by BobbyV_Incognito on Feb 12, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

For those who think Sternberg would run the Mets like the Rays...

Look at the difference between how John Henry ran the Marlins and the Red Sox. When he owned the Marlins, payrolls were kept low because revenue was low. When he bought the Red Sox, the payrolls have consistently been in the top 5 in baseball, and usually closer to #2 than #5. He was a completely different owner when given a better financial position. I suspect Sternberg would be the same.

by Cox813 on Feb 11, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

I have a hodepodge topic

It’s kind of distressing, but pitchers and catchers is next week, and I guess I’m just so beaten down by all of this, but I can’t find my excitement. I have never (in, admittedly, only just over a decade of fandom) not been thrilled with the coming of spring training.

And it’s not that I feel like there’s no point this year; I actually do think that if the balls happen to bounce right we have a long shot. I love the GM. But I am sort of just already beaten by the prospect of heading into the season with all the stupid questions and all the stupid columns and etc etc etc.

I have managed to find some hilarity in the Wipons/Mets dysfunction up till now, but now it just seems to be gone. Gone. I want a normal baseball team. I probably don’t even care if they’re particularly favored to win, I just want a normal team so that I can normally love baseball. It’s been four brutal years. I need a normal year. I need a non-circus year of baseball. It doesn’t seem like too much to ask for.

by SuperT on Feb 12, 2011 1:53 AM EST reply actions  

I hear ya

I bet once there are games to watch it’ll get better.

by James Kannengieser on Feb 12, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

This.
I want a normal baseball team.

I feel you there. The circus around this team just continues to get worse and worse. I think the cure (or at least a good mask for it) will be if the team surprises and plays well and ends up in the wild card race down the stretch. It’s just that with this team and what’s happened since 2007, you always expect the worst to happen. I want to say that this team is going to surprise people but I can’t do that with any degree of certainty just because of how disappointing they’ve been. I’m hoping that the new front office and manager do something to turn the mojo around because it seemed a lot more depressing with Omar Minaya at the helm.

I felt like you last year…Minaya and Manuel were still in control, I could really care less about the Bay signing because I would’ve preferred Matt Holliday and they didn’t do anything else to help the team so it was basically the 2009 team with Jason Bay (yippee!). Once spring training started and games were being played, my excitement level got back up though. I think the same will happen for you. And this year…hey, our owners may be schmucks but at least we have a great front office and a few more holes filled on the field.

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by Steve Schreiber on Feb 12, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want a normal baseball team, I want a good baseball team.

I don’t mind the poker playing, bleach spraying, bar fighting, father in law beating, showing your schlong in the bullpen aspect.

by FrancoTAU on Feb 12, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

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