Oliver Perez: Blame Higuera?
Oliver Perez's departure from the Mets is all but a formality at this point. He has been demoted to competing for a bullpen spot, but even in a camp with a dearth of lefty options, it seems unlikely he will go north with the team.
When I think of Perez, after I've unclenched my teeth and fists in rage, I think about this time of year back in 2009, when he left Port St. Lucie to pitch for Mexico in the World Baseball Classic. Before then, Perez was an intriguing (if maddeningly inconsistent) pitcher. Ever since, all he's inspired from Mets fans are ulcers or thoughts of bodily harm. If I don't exactly blame the WBC for this turn of events, I don't exactly let it off the hook, either.
Perez followed a decent 2007 with a slightly-less-than-decent 2008. He led the league in walks (105) and pitched to a 4.22 ERA, but posted a respectable K total of 180. If nothing else, he could be relied on to take the ball every fifth day, starting 34 games and logging 194 innings. Under the Omar Minaya regime, such meager accomplishments earned you an obscene contract, and so when Perez hit free agency, he was gifted a three-year, $36 million deal.
The lefty squeezed in a tiny bit of work early in spring training 2009 before departing for the WBC. He tossed two scoreless innings on February 26, striking out three and allowing only one walk. It was about as good as things would get for Perez all year.
In the WBC itself, to say Perez struggled would not be so much kind as it would be lying. In a mere 6 2/3 innings of work, he gave up a staggering five home runs and pitched to an ERA that pushed north of 9. Most damaging of all, however, may have been his last appearance of the series against Korea. Mexico's manager Vinny Castilla left him in to throw 85 pitches at a time in spring when few pitchers are given that kind of workload.
The Mets attempted to keep tabs on Perez's conditioning, but admitted they were unable to get through to Mexico's pitching coach, Teddy Higuera. Even now, it is staggering to me that the team could not effectively monitor a pitcher who'd just received a ginormous contract, regardless of whether it was the Mets' lack of due diligence or Higuera's negligence (or a combination of the two).
When Perez returned to Port St. Lucie shortly thereafter, he confessed he felt tired from the effort and intensity of the WBC. Pitching coach Dan Warthen immediately noticed his mechanics were completely out of wack from where they'd been before he left. In his first Grapefruit League assignment upon returning, he managed three scoreless innings against the Orioles on March 20, but also struggled to get the ball over the plate; only 27 of his 49 pitches were strikes. Perez implied the home plate umpire was responsible for his struggles, telling the Daily News, "Sometimes you have an umpire with a small zone. Sometimes you have an umpire with a big zone. You just have to follow him."
Very soon, it became painfully clear that the Mets had more than umpires to worry about when it came to Perez. In his next tuneup start, Perez looked awful, giving up six earned runs, five hits, and six walks. Both his velocity and accuracy were significantly missing. Warthen now admitted to the press that Perez was "out of shape." "I was a little bit reticent when he left here," Warthen said, "and my worries have come to fruition."
His last true spring training outing calmed Warthen's worries for a moment, as Perez went 6 2/3 innings against the Orioles, giving up only one run and one walk. Warthen even allowed himself to say "I think he's back to where he was last year." But in the second game ever at CitiField, an exhibition game against the Red Sox, Perez was dreadful. He walked four, gave up a grand slam to Jed Lowrie, and was charged with six runs in a mere 2/3 of an inning before being getting yanked.
Those hoping Perez would somehow pull it together have received no positive proof ever since.
To be fair, a player who would completely neglect his conditioning the second he was out of his team's sight could've succumbed to any number of temptations or fates--especially a player who did so while ostensibly pitching for national pride. If not the WBC, Perez's downfall may have been precipitated by an injury sustained during a pickup basketball game, or at an all-you-can-eat buffet, or while being distracted by a shiny object. Not to mention that, considering Perez's proclivities before the WBC, we'd likely seen his ceiling.
Still, it seems that the WBC was the turning point of Perez's career. It's hard not to think about what Perez might have been had he stayed in Mets camp in the spring of 2009. Even if the answer is "a frustratingly mediocre pitcher," it would still be better than what he is now.
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was it even the WBC?
Maybe he sustained the injury before hand and made it worse? Whatever he did to hurt his knee (even Santana said Ollie could barely walk on it at times) was the death knell. The combination of his lack of conditioning, Higuera and Warthen destroyed any chance of him being helpful here. Which is why I blame all three, and not just Ollie. Particularly as they knew who Ollie was when they gave him the contract, and the failure to accompany it with the tools needed to mold a flawed pitcher into something helpful makes it so much worse. Had they simply overpaid for a slightly above .500 and occasionally clutch pitcher for three years, we probably wouldn’t care that much.
Peterson spent years trying to force Ollie into repeatable mechanics and maximizing what he could. Once he broke from that routine and rhythm by getting hurt, (Also by Warthen not really caring about repeatable mechanics and arm slots) it wasn’t something he could regain on his own, or Warthen apparently is capable of teaching him. Despite him putting in the work, both of the last two offseasons, which he should get some credit for, even if he failed.
Besides all the other ways the Mets screwed up in handling him in the past, at least they’re seemingly treating him fairly and honestly this Spring. He’ll be released soon, and I suspect we’ll see him again one day having another couple of years with some measure of success.
-Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan
The WBC
A nice idea that makes absolutely no sense as a March competition.
Perez needed a coach to coordinate the signals blasting (or not blasting) across his cerebrum more than anything else. While pitching in high pressure situations with minimal training is Exhibit A for why the WBC should be cancelled or moved, I would surprise me not one iota if he went completely off the rails prior to the WBC (i.e., as soon as he signed his fat K.) The single reasonably good performance in February doesn’t tell me that he went into the WBC in good shape.
Yeah, WBC in March probably a bad idea
but they’re not going to junk it altogether. The reason? It did really well last go round. The finals had a higher rating in Japan than any sporting event of the past few years, including the Beijing Olympics. Personally I love the WBC. By in large it’s quality-played baseball and, I think, can be successful in tapping the nationalist fervor that makes the World Cup such an event. I’m not saying it’ll be another World Cup, but once it grows from its rinky-dink stage, I would be surprised if Latin America and Asia didn’t get really, really into it. It must get tiring just exporting your great players to a foreign league.
by Pack Bringley on Mar 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of the WBC
and I agree that the baseball is of a very high quality, but it starts to be A LOT of baseball for these players, especially if you have to stop the season for it (which would put the World Series when? Thanksgiving?) It probably makes the most sense to do it after the MLB season, when the various fall leagues are humming, anyway. Then again, in Latin America they may not want to lose the opportunity to see the exported players up close in the fall/ winter leagues.
Agree completely with this.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 14, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
as currently constituted
the WBC is incredibly stupid. they are exhibition games, at least the U.S. plays them that way. they have to be, considering the limitations on starters. you can’t expect starting pitchers to have the arm strength to pitch significant innings that early, and if they tried it would be an incredibly injury risk.
the only way to make the WBC viable would be to shorten the MLB season every few years and play a 2 week WBC tourney at the ASB. and everyone would have to be on board with letting their best players participate, and take the injury risk. club teams don’t hold players out of the world cup, but the WBC has a long way to go before it reaches anything close to that level of importance and notoriety such that teams can be strong-armed into taking the risk. as it stands now though, it’s pretty meaningless to me.
Oliver Perez
He grew up poor in Culiacán, Mexico, where the median income is $8,850 per year and the economy is focused on agriculture – fishing, meat, ganja, etc. All of a sudden one day he wakes up with more money than he ever dreamed of. I find that very few players can even make it to the majors if they are not ferociously driven, but I think that LOLie managed to do just that, and is simply a satisfied fat cat. I think he quite clearly lost some of his drive and focus after Omar rained Fred’s millions on him.
"The team is not for sale, in whole or in part. There is no need to sell, there is no reason to sell. There will be no sale."
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by Dandy Salderson on Mar 14, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
Pro athletes from poor upbringing
When Russians first started playing in the NHL the common percecption was that they lacked the pride of North American players and were here only for a paycheck. I read Theo Fluery’s autobiography and he echoes those sentiments. Personally, I doubt there are many professional athlete where pride doesn’t enter into game; even a little bit, and are playing for just a paycheck. That being said there is no way for me to empathize with professional athletes that grew up behind the iron curtain or are from 3rd world Latin American countries and maybe there are some players who are simply satisified with making heaps of money and are not worried about their performance on the field, their legacy, pride in their play etc.
It seems hard to believe
that ANY pro athlete would get to where he or she is without being brutally hypercompetitive in virtually any sporting situation . . . and yet, we get the Tony Fernandezes and Derek Bells of the world. There really are some players who don’t keep up with the offseason program, who slack off, loaf, etc., etc.
At least Bell brought us "Operation Shutdown" and this awesome mugshot:

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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 14, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame something that happened around that time, be it the WBC or something else.
I mean, his mechanics and head were always such that, you never knew if you were gonna get Good Ollie or Bad Ollie in any given start. Before last season, as was said, it looked as if Perez, while not great, was not the horrible pitcher who got himself demoted to AAA and eventually traded from Pittsburgh. Now, that’d be an upgrade, and I wish Perez would be able to pitch as he did at that point in his career, when he got himself demoted to AAA. That’s saying something.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 14, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
eww.
the tacos and the mexican-joke both.
by Pack Bringley on Mar 14, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't let Ted Berg see this.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 14, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
was there ever really a "good" LOLlie?
as a Met i mean. Using purely subjective reflection, my memory fails me. I can only recall that Ollie tried his best to blow that game where, you know, Endy leaped over the wall to bring the batted ball back into play, the ball thrown by Mr Perez. Arguably the last great moment we have to cherish—when the world was still tinged with hope— was really a massive failure for the LOLster.
I.M. Forme
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2007 Ollie was Good Ollie
177 IP, 3.56 ERA, 8.85 K/9, 4.02 BB/9, 2.2 K/BB ratio, 2.2 WAR. Second best season of his career, behind his monster 2004 campaign.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only 2007 Ollie was good but
2004 Pirates Ollie was an absolute beast. Where the hell did that Ollie come from and where did he go?
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 14, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Name calling is childish and lame
However, itsmetsforme, Game 7 is what I was gonna bring up, but you beat me to it. Forget that Endy catch. Yes, he saved Ollie’s bacon with that, but the overall performance was pretty good for the pressure of the situation. I really think had we won that game, we would have been a different organization, and Ollie would have been a different pitcher. Imagine if he won or took a no-decision in a Mets win. None of the events that came after this for him would have ever occurred. Admittedly, as maybe Ollie’s only fan left amongst the Mets fan base, I will make the case for him, but this logic does make sense. I’ve always said the WBC, Rick Peterson leaving(he got through to Ollie), and a number of other things contributed to his downfall, but I put the blame squarely on Aaron Heilman. If he doesn’t give up that HR to Molina, maybe things are different(yes, I know the game was tied, but I felt confident we would have won it in extra innings).
i think the key here might be:
the team could not effectively monitor a pitcher who’d just received a ginormous contract, regardless of whether it was the Mets’ lack of due diligence or Higuera’s negligence (or a combination of the two).
I.M. Forme
"When you get yourself into trouble is when you feel you have to do something, and then you get yourself in trouble." --Omar Minaya
his mechanics
“Pitching coach Dan Warthen immediately noticed his mechanics were completely out of wack from where they’d been before he left”
When you put in the kind of work that the met’s pitching staff did in trying to correct Ollie’s mechanics it seems kind of crazy that they would let him play for coaches with no afilliation to the mets after handing him that large of a contract. You would think it would be prudent for them to send someone to keep an eye on him while he pitched in the WBC to make sure his mechanics were not tinkered with.
Right or
just tell him “sorry, you can’t go…we’d like to protect our investment.”
I guess that’s just false hustle, though.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 14, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
Its not crazy for teams not to want there investments skiing or dirtbiking in the offseason, or any other potentially dangerous pastime. So its not that far off to not want players, especially pitchers, to play for other coaches who could un-do in a few weeks the years of hard work of perfecting said players delivery.
Vinny Casilla is the real culprit....
And Jose Canceco saved baseball.
by The real Julio from Paterson on Mar 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
but the WBC didn't turn LOLie into a stubborn, selfish, in-denial jerk
I say we cut the slimeball already and fire Dan Warthen for giving him unnecessary support. LOLie is the face of the failed old regime, get rid of him NOW.
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I am calling shennanigans
I don’t buy the whole concept of the article. Ollie is terrible because he is lazy, selfish and stupid, not because he threw 85 pitches in a game in March 2009. He never consistently repeated his motion, he clearly never worked his craft and, according to second hand reports, on minor league rehab assignments he was an arrogant prick. He had flashes of talent, but once he lost a little zip, he had nothing to fall back on. He probably has already thrown his last pitch at he major league level, and good riddance to him.
not only that...the Mets will still have to pay him, I am certain
and if he wasn’t as dumb with his money as he was with his career he made much more than any of HERE ever would THAT’s for sure. I don’t feel sorry one bit for that lousy excuse of a baseball player.
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by feslenraster on Mar 14, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, no.
Ollie is terrible because he is lazy, selfish and stupid
Laziness isn’t necessarily indicative of much. Hanley Ramirez is oft-reprimanded for being lazy, and he’s the second or third best position player in the game today? Laziness isn’t necessarily indicative of much. A-Rod is generally seen as extremely vain and selfish, and he’s a lock for the Hall of Fame. Stupidity isn’t necessarily indicative of much. Rube Waddell was borderline retarded, autistic, or some combination thereof, in addition to possibly a bunch of other things that would affect his behavior and intelligence, and he was a Hall of Famer whose career ERA+ is still ranked 25th All-Time, almost 100 years after his death.
He never consistently repeated his motion…He had flashes of talent, but once he lost a little zip, he had nothing to fall back on.
This is more indicative of what his problems are.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Mar 14, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Neither Laziness, stupidity or selfishness is dispositive . . .
but for someone with only good talent it is. Hanley is an extraordinary athlete. If Ollie worked however, he probably could have gotten better and actually been very good. Selfishness isn’t the end of the world if it doesn’t get in the way of the teams goals. Seeking money is one thing. Refusing to take a minor league assignement because you do not want to ride the bus to games is detrimental selfishness. Stupid just shows that he never learned how to pitch. Again, talent can triumph, but Ollie’s talent was never that far ahead to let that work.
Or, to put it another way, imagine how good Tom Glavine would have been if he could have had Ollie’s stuff. Its frightening. The difference between the two of their careers has more to do with what was in their heads than their left arms.
well, at least we can agree he is crap NOW. whether he had talent or not is subjective
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