Which Website's Box Score Is Best?
by James Kannengieser on Mar 23, 2011 12:45 AM EDT
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PrintAsking the titular question is a bit like inquiring "which animal is best?" The answer will vary from person to person based on one's preferences. There is no wrong answer. For a box score, does one want a bare bones presentation, featuring traditional statistics? Or a more in-depth, sabery production, complete with the triple slasher for each player and WPA figures? What about colors and graphics?
I sampled box scores from seven well-trafficked websites in an attempt to find the "best". For purposes of this post, only content on the main page is counted as part of the box score. For instance, the Baseball-Reference page includes a detailed play-by-play of the entire game and is therefore part of the box score. The ESPN page includes a link to the play-by-play on a separate page and is not considered part of the box score. Here are images of each box score, complete with a brief review, in alphabetical order:
(click to embiggen -- Note: The BB-Ref box score is massive so the image above is an excerpt. The Retrosheet box score is also snipped. The other five box scores are presented in their entirety. A link to each box score is provided above the images.)
BB-Ref is bursting with information. Traditional stats, saber stats, detailed play-by-play (courtesy of Retrosheet), a WPA graph, weather, umpires -- it's all there. There's almost too much information, if the user is looking to the box score for a simple, numerical recap of the game. It's quite busy. I love information, so BB-Ref's box score rates as one of the best for this user.
A downside -- and correct me if I'm wrong on this -- is that it doesn't keep track of games as they happen. For that reason, this is my preferred source for historical box scores like the R.A. Dickey one-hitter against the Phillies seen in this post. It's a next day box score.
ESPN provides much of the same saber info as BB-Ref does -- AVG/OBP/SLG, pitch results -- while looking more presentable. It's not a gawdy production, as one might come to expect from ESPN. Additionally, it includes a "Game Notes" section which explains any out-of-the-ordinary game action. In the Dickey one-hitter game, Mike Hessman hit a home run, which was turned into a triple due to fan interference after umpire video review. This is clarified here, which most box scores don't do.
This is my preferred box score for purposes of writing a game recap, due to the detailed pitcher stats, number of pitches seen by batters and speed at which this information becomes available after the game. Good show, ESPN.
The FanGraphs box score isn't nice to look at but scores major points for details of individual player performance. Heavy saber is present, unsurprisingly, with WPA, LI and batted ball stats all appearing. Clicking to another page is required to view the inning-by-inning scoreboard. This is an area of improvement. Chances are, the user knows who won the game if he/she is viewing a FanGraphs box score, but a scoreboard at the top of the page would be an asset.
The info in the separate Play Log link is an excellent tool for writing game recaps. However, its contents aren't on the main page so it is ignored here.
This one of the more traditional packages, statistically. On-base percentage and slugging percentage aren't present, but batting average is. The LOB stat ("left on base") is generally useless. The team logos are a nice touch -- they seem to add a human element to the box score, for whatever reason. Maybe the sight of the logos conjures the image of players in uniform.
This is what box scores would look like if the Commodore 64 won the war. Retrosheet's role in the preservation of baseball history is commendable (if you can help complete the database, please do!). But the paucity of saber stats, combined with the robotic interface, makes Retrosheet inferior to BB-Ref as far as historical box scores go. However, it's worth noting that Retrosheet explains the Hessman homer-turned-triple in its play-by-play.
SB Nation's box score is similar to MLB's in look and information presented. Maybe I should toe the company line, but honesty is my preference. There's nothing remarkable here.
SNY's inclusion of the triple slasher is noteworthy for a box score one would expect to be traditional. The logos at the top remind of MLB, and the bare minimum game info is similar in format to SB Nation. Not bad, not great, I am probably not a return customer.
Forced to choose just one, my pick is ESPN. Say what you will about the Worldwide Leader, and there's plenty to say, but it makes a mean box score. Baseball-Reference is a close second place.
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I would have said Yahoo Sports had it been an option
but instead of picking the lame ‘other’, ESPN was closest aesthetically.
This.
I’ve always used Yahoo’s just because I’m so familiar with it from fantasy sports.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yahoo
I would also have picked Yahoo, if only because the site seems more stable and simple than the other ones; it is easier/quicker to load on slower connections/computers.
Another vote for Y!
Since it wasn’t a choice, I went with ESPN. Having access to the Play Log is nice. I want to like Fangraphs, but the ugliness and lack of score don’t make it a good read.
I usually try to keep scoremyself, so I don’t get confused in the wave of new-age statistics that I don’t usually understand.
5 out of the 7 don't have a single advanced stat - and that's not even counting Yahoo! who isn't included.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
He probably doesn't understand batting average
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by Aidan Gibson on Mar 23, 2011 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll just say 2 things to you BeltransMole
1. For a newbie, you sure don’t have a problem saying stuff. Ah, that’s OK. You have to get used to the fact that we all have different posting styles. Mine is to get a rise out of, or have dry, hard-edged sarcasm, which is another form of humor. With what’s going on in the world, you need to laugh every once in a while, but apparently you didn’t get the joke.
2. I probably know more about these things than you do, seeing as how I am a maven and wizard with facts, numbers, etc. However, I do like ESPN for their graphics, and that they break down the stats, like BA against RHP, etc. I wish they had more advanced stats, though.
He's not a newbie...
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My mistake Ogre
I haven’t seen him around much, even before I left, and not when I came back until today, so I assumed he was new.
You know what happens when you assume...
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Alas Ogre
That is why I said my mistake. You said he wasn’t new, so I said that I made a mistake. No assuming that way.
You have no business chastising people here as "newbies"
Most of your 650 comments here have been you unnecessarily going back and forth in confrontation. You’ve resisted participating in this community in a positive way at every turn. You are the very last person who is qualified to lecture anyone, newcomer or otherwise, about Amazin’ Avenue’s culture. Doing so is little more than trolling.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
by Russ on Mar 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You have no business saying anything to me Russ
You don’t know what it’s like to be bipolar. You don’t know what it’s like to have your whole family wiped out in Japan, except my mom. You don’t go through that. You don’t have feelings, compassion, or sympathy. You don’t wish me condolences. All you want to do is nitpick, criticize, and cut or wound with your comments. Honestly, I shouldn’t be giving you the time of day, and responding to your latest round of insults, but you really went for it this time. You didn’t like me the first time, and it’s apparent that’s carried over in my return. Not all my comments have the name in the header. Maybe yours do, but that is pure coincidence. I come here to get away from the real world, and the immeasurable loss I am going through, and I have to see comments like this from someone like you. It’s really low to kick a man when he’s down. I’ll be perfectly honest: since I came back, Ogre and mistermet have debated, challenged and criticized me, but you know what the difference is? They have feelings. Compassion. Sympathy. Things you have none of. It shows the type of man you are.
You don't know if he knows about your life. He may not have read that particular thread.
But either way, you still have no business lecturing anyone about Amazin’ Avenue’s culture seeing as how you often don’t abide by it yourself.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 24, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You still don't know if he actually read it.
And he posted that this morning. The Game thread today happened in the afternoon.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 24, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry about your family
and I didn’t know about that until a few hours ago.
That said, you’re not the only one who comes here to escape. You’re not the only one with problems. There are absolutely no circumstances where you have the right to chastise a poster as a “newbie,” as if you are an expert about the culture here, when you’ve never made a real effort to be part of, or to understand this community.
Again, I’m sincerely sorry about your loss, but please do not use it as a club in every thread so that you can use this community as your personal punching bag. If you need help, I hope that you get it. If you can’t get it, post a fanshot and I’m sure that you’ll see many members of this community reach out and help you.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
For the most part
I will let this go, due to the fact you made the effort in the Game thread, and that you (I think) genuinely meant what you said in the Game thread. However, let me just address a couple of your points from this post:
Race is a touchy subject. When I commented in a joking fashion to PoppedItUp, he said I was mentally ill, and that I was an illiterate moron. I’m sorry, but I don’t have to take that under any circumstances. I don’t chastize for the most part. I joke that people are newbies, but if you read above on this thread, you will see that none of my symbol keys work.
I have made an effort. Many times. I have tons of stats that I can post, and twice in this latest Game thread, I asked if you were interested in my projected WAR stats for the team, and you gave me no answer. I do have a lot of trivia, fun facts, etc., but it’s not really about the Mets, so you’d probably say you aren’t interested. I’m also not a follower. I don’t do the ‘’conventional thing’‘, and I try to be different, as uniqueness makes a person stand out. On to the next point: What do you mean by club? I think you mean crutch. I will admit i’m looking for sympathy, cause I can’t wear my mom out. I don’t really see how i’m using anyone as a punching bag. I always had the hard-edge, biting sarcasm long before this happened. That has always been my style. Ask anyone at any of my other blogs. The ironic thing is that i’ve already framed the last part of this post, because I don’t know if you’ll ever come up with a better idea as far as the FanShot goes, but what do I title it? On top of that, if I do get help, and people reach out, they have to realize that this is not just for on here. I need someone to talk to on online messengers, and all that. I would like to ask you to be the first to help me, as it was your idea. That being said, no matter what you think, do not post anymore negative posts like that one where you mentioned about my 650 posts. That whole post really got me like this to you(well, that and your ties to FSU, and mine to UF. Natural rivalry). That being said, if you are willing to help me, as you suggested, and let the posts that you don’t like slide, then, at least between you and me, this is over. I’m in a really bad way, and I need to be treated with kid gloves, but the choice is yours.
It leads to assumptions.
Trying to believe is my full-time occupation.
by Preach19 on Mar 23, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quote of the year
I probably know more about these things than you do, seeing as how I am a maven and wizard with facts, numbers, etc
From someone who can’t grasp wOBA.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Well Russ
It’s people like you that make assumptions as to why I say I don’t know advanced stats. Rather than let the comment go, or correct me like Ogre did, you assume that I don’t know these things, when i’ve known it all along. Remember, i’ve been away for a while. In that time, i’ve picked up more of the advanced stats, but when I was here the first time, I was beginning to grasp the concept of advanced stats, Sabermetrics, etc. If you want, maybe I can help you out with that, seeing as how you think i’m not up with the new stuff.
Let's see what you wrote earlier in this thread:
I usually try to keep scoremyself, so I don’t get confused in the wave of new-age statistics that I don’t usually understand.
and then you write this:
you assume that I don’t know these things, when i’ve known it all along.No, I’m not assuming. I read what you wrote. Were you lying in the earlier comment, or were you lying in the more recent comment?
Also, don’t put people’s names in the subject header. It is rude, and you’re just doing it to tweak people. You don’t do that at NetsDaily, so there is no reason to do it here.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Evan_S
Maybe I missed it because the sarcasm font wasn’t used.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
As was said the first time I was here
The sarcasm font for me is disabled. As the lovely Gina and me had a discussion about this back then, she understood that my computer formats differently than everyone else’s. She may have not liked it, but she understood.
So you don't have any of the following symbols available?
!@#$%^&*()
You don’t have a shift key?
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But it has nothing to do with the computer.
The website is always the same as long as you are not using a computer with MS DOS on it.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What are you using a Commodore 64?
Check that, even that has a “@” symbol.
What type of computer is it?
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Toshiba Windows Vista, but bear in mind that I have to use a key remapping program to type, and on a free trial, which doesn’t enable me to remap all of my keys.
So how about this:
Since you don’t have access to the “@” symbol, why don’t you type
“at”before and after your biting and hard-edge sarcasm?
Like this:
“at” I hate puppies “at”.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure he doesnt have this symbol: "
Old computers…
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by BlackOps on Mar 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He has an apostrophe. Use that then.
‘at’
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope
I have the symbol buttons on my computer, but they don’t work, due to the oldness of the computer. Only the letter, number, Shift, Fn, and PGUP and PGDN buttons can be remapped. Therefore, it’s impossible for me to use the sarcasm font.
I get that you can't use that @ sign.
But you can use the apostrophe key. I’ve seen it in your comment. What I’m proposing is that you have your own sarcasm font. Exactly as follows:
‘at’ [sarcastic stuff here] ‘at’.
That way you won’t get misunderstood and we can tell when you are trying to be sarcastic.
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Well then why don't you just write:
SARCASM ALERT
and them write whatever you please. Bottom line is that there is a way to make sure that your “hard-edge and biting sarcasm” is identified as such. It’s on you to conform to AA, not the other way around.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 24, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wait so now you don't have an
“a” or a “t” key? I call bullshit on this…you wrote the word “that” which contains both of those letters.
You’re a lier man.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 26, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That key broke between your last comment and this one?
"I think Murdertron makes a good point though."
I really don't see the corrolation between the two
I can know the advanced stats, and still keep score myself. I don’t always have access to the Internet, and therefore keep score myself the majority of the time. Now, I am not lying, rather holding back on the fact that I knew advanced stats from the first time I was here. I admit i’m an attention seeker, and if I can figure out stuff in the stats department, would want immediate credit for it. Seeing as how that never is going to happen, I refrain from admitting I know WAR, wOBA, etc. As far as names in the header, I really didn’t want to bring this into it, but since you decided to complain about a menial issue, I will, but briefly. If you are a regular from when I was here the first time(which you are), you should remember that I said i’m bipolar, and that my computer formats differently. Since my attention span is affected by this, I often lose my place easily, and if I don’t put names in the header, that is how my place gets lost, causing severe ’’episodes’’. I’m not asking for any exceptions to things, rather an understanding of why I do it. I don’t see how it can be annoying, when anyone can see someone’s name to begin with. I assure you i’m not trying to tweak anyone. Finally, I would appreciate if you don’t mention the other blogs I post in. That happened in another thread on here where someone mentioned Lone Star Ball, and ever since then, I cannot post there. However, I will give you one reason, since you used NetsDaily as your example: They allow members to get away with saying basically whatever they want, and format it in the header however they want. If you go to the whole Melo articles, you can see that I used names in headers of not only members, but beat writers, saying rather harsh things that I would never think to say on here. I know rules are rules, but still……….
Obviously you're an attention seeker.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thatis an opinion you formed all on your own, but hey, you have every right to have whatever type of opinion you want.
How did he form it all on his own when you explicitly said it yourself?
admit i’m an attention seeker
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hhe didn't say that, why would he do that??
The computer is taking over!!
Kicking knowledge in the face.
by BlackOps on Mar 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But before you said no one should say jokes.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 24, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
See, I don't really get this
You say
I probably know more about these things than you do, seeing as how I am a maven and wizard with facts, numbers, etc. However, I do like ESPN for their graphics, and that they break down the stats, like BA against RHP, etc. I wish they had more advanced stats, though.
You first said
I usually try to keep scoremyself, so I don’t get confused in the wave of new-age statistics that I don’t usually understand.
Which one is it?
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by Aidan Gibson on Mar 24, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's part of the condition I have
If I had to choose, to impress, i’d go with the first comment. That’s which one it is.
To impress? Does that mean you don't know?
Not knowing and wanting to learn is fine. We’re happy to explain stuff.
Not knowing and being douchey about it isn’t ok
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by Aidan Gibson on Mar 25, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's a fucking lier.
Everything he’s said is a lie.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 26, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the problem is percent sites without advanced stats
is in itself an advanced stat, thus causing the confusion
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by KeithsMoustache on Mar 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
BeltransMole
His cutting sarcasm is astounding.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
If I have to explain it too you
well, it’d just ruin it for everyone.
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by Ogre39666 on Mar 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well Ogre
This isn’t a show we’re putting on. This is a discussion about the essence of baseball: the stats. I think you should tell me, cause no one else would care, but if you don’t want to, that’s your right.
"This isn’t a show we’re putting on."
This is going to be my new go-to phrase.
by SuperT on Mar 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha SuperT
Why should it be your go-to phrase if i’m the one that coined it? It should be my phrase. I think i’ll put it in my signature.
Oh man this is hilarious.
Biting and cutting edge sarcasm is back again on my computer screen!!!!
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me guess...
you don’t understand at bats.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course I understand at bats mistermet
I posted that late at night. I could barely see what I was writing. Falling asleep.
Obviously you missed mistermet's
hard, biting sarcasm.
by Evan_S on Mar 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No Evan
I get it. I just try to respond with hard, biting sarcasm of my own. I’ve softened a bit since I returned, but you can’t always teach a new dog old tricks, if you know what I mean.
Yes.
That sarcasm was quite hard and biting.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The jokes are not funny. As you stated on the other thread, I got some stuff i’m going through, and jokes and all that are not funny.
But I like jokes.
I think jokes and all that are funny.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I lobby for more mistermet jokes
Enjoying what may be the final season of two of my favorite Mets in Blue and Orange: Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran
by EMSfan9 on Mar 24, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well then you're in luck
because I won’t be banning jokes anytime soon.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like ESPN
It has the triple slash, the pitching info, and is more aesthetically pleasing than BB-Ref
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-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
If I want a quick glance, I'd go with yahoo or espn.
But, if I want the story of the game or “dive” into the game more (so to speak), I’d prefer baseball reference.
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Polling
James, let me preface this by saying I love your writing and believe these polls are relatively meaningless and more about curiosity than anything else . . .
That said, if you want a statistically valid poll, you should not state your opinion in the piece. People have a natural desire for acceptance and belonging. Sometimes its just a coincidence and one choice is truly better than the others, but quite often people are influenced by the content they read prior to polling. I say this not to criticize, rather, I’m noticing that ESPN has an overwhelming number of votes relative to the other choices and I’m just curious what people here would have selected had your opinion not been presented . . .
by 86_revisited on Mar 23, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Noted for the future, but I wasn't really looking for a statistically valid poll
Maybe next time I’ll leave out the last part about my own vote and just leave the reviews.
by James Kannengieser on Mar 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not too much damage done
In my independent and unbiased analysis, ESPN scored highest, and BR came in 2nd, which corresponded to what you said. You may have consensus opinion on hand.
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Web design tends to suffer from feature creep
where the cool geegaws distract from the point (visual representation of data). I’ll go with ESPN provisionally (though, in general, fuck ESPN) but I suspect in a few more years Retrosheet will be the only readable box score.
I had an opportunity to experiment with box score designs for hockey a few years ago in designing a site and my eventual solution eschewed all decoration in favor of “just the facts.” That’s far superior IMHO to all options for that sport on the MSM.
I voted retrosheet, it's convenient if i need to see what happened in a game at a quick glance, and I like the minimalist approach
The layout is unexciting but clean and easy to read. If, on the other hand I’m looking to analyze a game in depth for some sort of analytical purpose, BB-ref is clearly the best.
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Mar 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
I really only use box scores for the raw data
I generally don’t care about averages or anything if I’m just looking at the game summary. Just give me the raw data.
I like ESPN because it notes some things that a traditional line wouldn’t be able to explain.
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I like ESPN
precisely because of those game notes as mentioned in the post, but the box score I look at most far more than any other is the Yahoo box score because all my multiple fantasy teams are in Yahoo leagues thus I tend to be logged into Yahoo nightly throughout the entire season.
My analysis of which box score is best is rather Posnanskian (as in super-long)
so I made a FanPost out of it.
The results:
1) 38/50 – ESPN
2) 36/50 – Baseball-Reference
3) 34/50 – MLB
4) 28/50 – Retosheet
5) 27/50 – SNY
6) 25/50 – SBNation
7) 17/50 – FanGraphs (I was surprised, too)
I agreed with what James Kannengieser said for the most part.
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False: Black Bear
by Shevshevy on Mar 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This.
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by Steve Schreiber on Mar 23, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone know where to get a printable sheet of the day's box scores?
A site that has all the box scores from every game from the previous day in an 8.5×11 printable format, like a newspaper?
Try these sites
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/index.html
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Thanks, but not exactly...
Looks like those are more for looking up a particular historical one, unless I’m missing something.
I’m basically looking for something that is the same as buying a newspaper every day and getting all the previous day’s box scores. I hate buying an entire newspaper every day just for the box scores because it’s such a waste of paper.
I know I can look at each game’s box scores on just about any site, but I’m looking for something that has them all on one printable page so I can take it with me on the morning subway ride.
I think that during the regular season (when games count), these box scores are updated
But other than these two, I can’t really find any ideally fitting your description.
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ESPN
Clean look, lots o’ detail… and the kicker is pitching game scores.
by LeiterMilnerFasterStronger on Mar 23, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
ESPN for a single game, BB-REF for everything else
It’s only when I’d be in the mode of writing up a game recap that I’d prefer ESPN for the reasons you mention, but not so much for general research where I prefer the inter-connectiveness that makes BB-REF the most essential baseball site on the web. Retrosheet is great for authoritative biodata and clean play-by-play, plus coach and umpire data.
I’m unclear as to how the Fangraphs’ example even counts as a box score.
They don’t break down information by inning, and you have to hunt just to find the score. A box score is, at minimum supposed to provide cheap basic summary of the game that can be gleaned at a glance, with more information if one digs deeper. Fangraphs doesn’t provide this.
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