Nationals 7, Mets 3: Bullpen Blows Young's Pop-o-Matic Start
by Matthew Callan on Apr 10, 2011 5:07 PM EDT
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Chris Young had no batting heroics this time, but still baffled Nats hitters for 7 strong innings, giving up a lone single and inducing one futile pop-up after another. Jayson Werth was particularly victimized, fouling out behind home plate three times. Young's teammates took an early lead on first inning RBI singles from David Wright and Angel Pagan. Washington starter Jason Marquis settled in after that, keeping the Mets off balance and fanning 9. The Mets managed another run on an Ike Davis single in the fifth, then their bats went silent for the remainder of regulation.
But Young's fine work was undone by DJ Carrasco, who allowed the Nats to tie the game up in the top of the eighth on a long double, a walk, a bloop single, and an RBI groundout. Taylor Buchholz, Tim Byrdak, and Frankie Rodriguez conspired to keep the Nats off the board through the ninth, and Blaine Boyer pitched a 1-2-3 tenth, but a single, hit batsman, and opposite field hit for Pudge Rodriguez gave the Nats the lead in the top of the eleventh. One batter later, Laynce Nix put things away with a three-run homer to the Mets' bullpen
Chad Gaudin and Tyler Clippard put 5 more Ks on the Mets' ledger in three innings of work, while Drew Storen worked around a leadoff single from Jose Reyes in the tenth, and Sean Burnett set the Mets down quietly in the bottom of the eleventh to close it out. This was the craptacular sort of loss that makes you feel the weight of an afternoon wasted. On the plus side, it wasn't too sunny or warm today, so if you were one of the unfortunate ones who dedicated your day to watching this mess, you didn't miss much outside.
The story of the weekend was the bullpen's complete and utter ineffectiveness and the Mets' batters' enormous amount of strikeouts. Regarding the former, no Mets reliever seems capable of getting ahead of batters or not walking the ballpark. Jason Isringhausen's arrival from Port St. Lucie is now a question of when, not if, and the fact that the often injured ex-closer can not be considered an answer to any question shows the depths of the Mets' relief woes.
As for the strikeouts, there might be some teams with a pitching staff who can fan 17 batters in 11 innings, but the Nats don't have one. Willie Harris was particularly useless, wearing the golden sombrero on the day and showing less and less of his spring training form with each passing day.
A crummy weekend against a crummy team has sapped what little equity and patience the Mets had with fans (and the press) after their decent showing in Florida and the first game in Philadelphia. It's unfair to completely judge any team this early in the season, but expect the wolves to be out in full force tomorrow morning. If you know what's good for you, stay away from sports radio on Monday (good advice any day, really), and hope the Mets can turn the page against the Rockies tomorrow night.
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Big winners: Chris Young, +29.0% WPA, Jose Reyes, +11.8% WPA
Big losers: DJ Carrasco, -37.3% WPA, Blaine Boyer, -36.4% WPA
Teh aw3s0mest play: Ike Davis RBI single in the fifth inning, +11.1% WPA
Teh sux0rest play: Boyer gives up RBI single to Ivan Rodriguez in the eleventh inning, -32.0% WPA
Total pitcher WPA: -23.8% WPA
Total batter WPA: -26.2% WPA
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That was
A great bullpen performance
And a well managed game
Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
The management was so good
it erased Jerry Emanuel from my memory
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why can't we just get blown out in our losses?
Why do they have to be so painfully awful?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
As opposed to wonderfully awful? lol
But yeah, I hear you.
A 7 inning 1 hit/1run performance by our starter and the BP comes in and gives up 6 runs.
17 Ks by Met hitters in this series.
That kind of accounts for awful, to start with.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 10, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's official.
The majority of the BP sux.
Let’s start the revolving door now. DFA Boyer, bring up Izzy.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 10, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate Boyer with a passion
by the maroon bird on Apr 10, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Done!
Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.
by Aidan Gibson on Apr 10, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Small Market Sandy must read AA!
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Sandy lohaus#54?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it too much to ask to have a bullpen that's not horrible?
The last time the Mets bullpen wasn’t a complete embarrassment to professional baseball was 2006.
Chris Young
Could have done better after 100+ pitches
The first seven innings were awesome to watch
The last four was tortuous. The bullpen was hideous, but Terry didn’t help either. I don’t understand why he didn’t take Duda out for defense in the 8th inning. I also would have gone with Beato over Boyer in the tenth. The managing in the 9th using three pitchers to get three outs instead of having KRod didn’t make much sense either. Another year another really bad in game manager.
I'm thinking
Jerry < Terry < the manager we thought Sandy and Co. would hire
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by Blame-everyone-else on Apr 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We should have hired Alex cora
because he is awesome
by the maroon bird on Apr 10, 2011 5:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was awesome against us today
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, right field is the harder position in Citi
why isn’t harris in RF and Duda in LF?
The more things change, the more the stay the same. Could have sworn I was watching a Jerry Manuel-managed team, with the same crappy bullpen.
by northernvatiger on Apr 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry left a strong stench when he was let go
The fumigation is not complete.
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
this entrie organization needs to be disassembled
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
They asked Terry that in the post game interview
He said that Duda had the more experience in RF in ST.
Scratching my head on that. He may have in ST but I don’t think he’s got the most experience of the 3 OF bench players lifetime, does he?
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pelfrey and his over 15.00 ERA pitch tomorrow
: (
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
I'll be there tomorrow.
Can't wait for Pelf to pitch!!!
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be there too
at least we aren’t against Ubaldo
Don't worry
The Mets will make Jason Hammel look like Ubaldo.
by Guy Allen Davis on Apr 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
pelfrey usually pitches very well at home and crap on the road.
He was 2-12 on the road last year with a huge era.
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
From Adam Rubin's game story
The Met bullpen has allowed 45 hits and walked 16 hitters and hit two batters in 33.1 innings.
Yowza.
Ewwwww
"Never throw a slider to The Glider."
- Ed Charles, No. 5
"Who has more fun than people?"
- Ralph Kiner
Not only that but they are giving up extra base hits
BP is 26th out of 30 in OPS against with .817 before today. They might be last in baseball after today.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
How do the Padres do it?
They seemingly get journey men every year, and turn them into absolutely dominant relievers. Why can’t we do that?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Don't know but as someone posted above
It’s been 2006 since this team had a bullpen that wasn’t a complete joke.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
yeah, but it's actually not true
last year’s bullpen was pretty decent
It's Elmer Dessens.
We should've taken another ride on the BABIP train.
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
A well built bullpen
thats impressive
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mets had one hit after Marquis left.
One.
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Whi is pretty much a re-run of the last 4 years
Can’t hit against anyone’s bullpen meanwhile Mets bullpen throws batting practice (when they are walking and hitting people)
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Can we agree that this using of Boyer
as the long man has to stop. Either get Misch up here or just manage like theres no long man. No way Boyer should be pitching a secong inning.
A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
by Blame-everyone-else on Apr 10, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
I could not agree with this more!
The guy is a one inning specialist and was mismanaged again.
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Boyer is a desirable pitcher to have on your team
but only as the 6th-7th man out of the pen and as a ROOGY. His splits aren’t completely terrible, but he’s simply not a guy you let face a lefty when the game is on the line. It’s baffling how the more things change, the more they seem to stay the same in terms of managerial competence.
That being said, the construction of this bullpen leaves quite a bit to be desired, and we can’t blast Collins for something that isn’t completely his fault, right?
Kicking knowledge in the face.
Having only one lefty in the pen hurts
And yeah, this bullpen is pretty mediocre
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Mediocre is too kind to these guys
ha
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I'll agree to a point.
Collins can only work with what he’s given.
I saw Misch got lit up in his last start. Not sure how much better he’d be right now.
by MetsFan4Decades on Apr 10, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Could he use Carrasco more?
Is he the only guy TC knows is in the pen? Every time they pan to the BP this poor bastard is warming up.
Does TC think the word Carrasco is a synonym for “relief pitcher?”
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
even worse, I don't think he's really a DJ
I couldn’t find any of his remixes, free-style rhymes, collaborations, or mashups on youtube or torrent.
What’s he trying to pull?
by hotspur on Apr 10, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Who writes these Recaps?
How did Taylor Bucholz “conspire to keep the Nats off the board?” Was it his 3 walks on facing 5 batters? The Recap above makes it sound like he pitched well – He conspired all he could to get them to score more, the Nats just couldn’t bring em home
The author is plainly visible.
It’s right under the title.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
by Ogre39666 on Apr 10, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
O remy
u so crazy
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Apr 10, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Crazyremy is back.
Hooray!
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GOD DAMMIT
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
We were winning when I left
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
by NetsMets4Life on Apr 10, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
can someone pls explain reyes' refusal to steal all day????????
he seemed to be running just fine to first and all the way to 3rd
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
how do you know he refused ?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
well
i didnt really mean refusal by him. it could also be that collins specifically told him not to run and that wouldnt make me very happy either. but even besides the AB in the 10th, he had 2 other great opportunities and just didnt go. i’d really like to see hi push the envelope more
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
We don't
I wish someone would ask Terry about this. Is it the manager telling him not to steal frequently or is it Reyes dilly dallying out there. If its the latter, Terry should be getting on Reyes to try and steal (especially earlier in counts).
reporters aren't paid
to ask legitimate questions. they’re paid to get fluff quotes to sell paperzzzzz
well it seems jerry (sorry, i mean terry of course)
would rather bunt reyes over then have him steal. on the fan they said storen had an awful move, why not send reyes? pudge isnt what he used to be
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
"or is it Reyes dilly dallying out there"
Or it’s him not running when he can’t get a good read and not wanting to run into outs?
Save Jenrry Mejia!
i just wanna see reyes back to the days when he was an absolute terror on the basepaths
he already seems partly there w/ the bunts, i’d like to see more though. reyes can steal on anybody even w/ not great jumps (keep in mind, marquis wasnt really throwing over so reyes wasnt really being kept close). i wonder whether he’s worried about his contract and getting caught stealing might devalue him in sandy’s eyes
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
Oh, please.
Now we’re going to speculate whether his contract is weighing on his mind and somehow bringing down his performance?
Save Jenrry Mejia!
not really affecting performance
just he might wanna seem more constrained and not reckless in a walk yr. its somewhat similar to him taking a more patient approach at the plate. for all you know sandy mentioned to reyes agent this idea and reyes will be less inclined to run unless told to by the bench
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
that makes no sense
if his contract were his concern, I’d imagine he’d be stealing bases left and right. Stolen bases are flashy, stolen base % is not.
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yeah but sandy might not approve
just speculating. i know it could be total BS
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
I doubt it.
I think it’s mainly that Reyes typically doesn’t steal bags early in the count and that he typically doesn’t run much late in games, which is the way that it’s been for a while with him.
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually wondering this, too
Because there’s been a few cases this year where Reyes didn’t get the green light and we’d luck out getting him to second (wild pitch, etc). The first run today was one of those cases. I hope Terry hasn’t been reading the Jerry handbook on how to handle one of the biggest baserunning threats in baseball.
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by MattT516 on Apr 10, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He might not have been able to get a good read.
I’d rather have him not even try then go when he’s not comfortable and get caught.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
he seemed to have a big lead each time
and i actually have to agree w/ keith who was going nuts that reyes didnt run the 2nd time. is marquis really that deceptive?
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
was that during the willie harris AB where he struck out fanning at a ball?
but yea, reyes had a huge lead and could have had a steal at will. marquis was clearly off his game trying to pay attention to reyes and harris could have had an easy walk had he not swung at a ball.
"could have had a steal at will"
As if it’s that easy. You act like you knew he could get a good jump. We have no idea.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
It's possible
they wanted Reyes on first to keep the hole between 1st & 2nd open for Harris. Bottom line is there are a lot o factors and we don’ t know.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
From the Times
Graziano, whom I didn’t know was at the Times now. I always liked him. Anyway:
“Collins explained that, under normal circumstances, he would have [allowed the steal]. But Nationals pitcher Drew Storen is very quick to the plate (1.2 seconds, Collins said), and with Ivan Rodriguez still in the game at catcher, Collins believed it was not an opportune time for a stolen base attempt. In general, he said, he would prefer to be aggressive in that situation and have Reyes steal his way into scoring position.”
according to bb-ref
in the last 4 yrs base stealers have been successful 58 out of 67 times against marquis (87%). he’s not exactly jon niese out there
metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?
this
if Duda can get thrown out steal a base, Reyes should definitely be giving it an attempt or two.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 11, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
This will surprise no one here,
but RA Dickey is just incredibly awesome. (I told you this would surprise no one).
I live multiple time zones from NY, probably further away than even Mookie the C, but I am in the NY area this week for a working vacation. I took my son, who’s in kindergarten, to Citi Field today. We got in as early as we could, early enough to stand by the right field line pre-game. RA Dickey made a point of coming by all of the fans to talk and sign every thing pushed his way. We weren’t expecting to get any signatures — I just wanted my boy to see big leaguers up close — but RA waited until we could find a pen and then signed my son’s Mr. Met hat.
What a decent, genuine, good man.
My wife's name is Mrs. Coleman and she likes me, Bub.
by Ownbey4Mex on Apr 10, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
You have been touched by the God Dickey
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Dickey be praised
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he happen
To cure a blind man of his affliction, heal a leper or turn water into a six pack of Red Bull?
Just asking, it’s rumored he can do just this.
One 15 minute call could save you hundreds on your Dickey insurance. Your going to need it punk!
by ScottfromPeekskill on Apr 10, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
that's awesome
Most guys sign auto’s when they are rookies or struggling and want the fans behind them. But once they “make it” with a big contract they have no time for the fans. Good to see Dickey not forget where he came from. He’s awesome!
Dickey#54
Dickey#54
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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 10, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
If you son puts on that hat,
he’ll transform into He-Man. That is the power of Dickey.
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Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This brought tears to my eyes.
I hope your son smiled as big as Dickey’s heart.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
@sparbz
O/T
Don Mattingly has apparently taken his studies at the foot of Torre seriously. He’s batting Gwynn Jr. and Aaron Miles 1 and 2.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
Drunk Driver Adam Kennedy hit third for the Mariners today
look at what .Poor King Felix has to deal with, and yet a dope like Kevin Kernan says wins are all that matters.
Touch em all sparbz
You deserve it.
"You can spend minutes, hours, days weeks or even months overanalyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what would’ve, could’ve happened – or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the **** on."
-Tupac Amaru Shakur
thanks my man, looking forward to tonight as i buy MLB.TV to watch the games up here in Boston for the next 3 weeks.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
@sparbz
Wasn't there a fangraphs article
saying that the Mets pen this year would actually be ok?
Oh well, taxes aren’t even due yet.
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