Izzy & Iggy Applesauce - Mets promote two, replace Duda and Boyer, Madoff claims Wilpons innocent
by Joe Budd on Apr 11, 2011 9:45 AM EDT
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Groan. Mercifully, I was on the bus back below the Mason-Dixon line for yesterday's game, otherwise I would be even angrier. But, all is not lost. We've got Izzy and Iggy coming up and Jose Reyes hasn't made a first inning out in 7 games.
Jason Bay is swinging a bat and hopes to be in left field soon for the Mets. Ronny Paulino also is working his way back, expecting to play on April 26th.
Blaine Boyer is out after 119 pitches. Why do middle relievers have such a short leash compared to starters like Mike Pelfrey?
Bernie Madoff insists again that the Wilpons were totally ignorant of the scam.
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Manny Ramirez's retirement was certainly sudden. How about a few important remembrances of his career. Here's Beyond the Box Score reminding us of the high five double play. And here's Joe Posnanski declaring that Manny was indeed a hitting genius.
Rob Dibble is opening his big fat mouth again, this time saying that Stephen Strasburg's father encouraged the Nationals to fire the broadcaster. Even if this is a true accusation, all it would indicate to me is discerning taste by Strasburg, nothing more.
Alex Rodriguez is not the only New York baseball player to have to go through the media firestorm based on the small playoff sample size.
There aren't a lot of MLB managers on the hot seat this season. Edwin Rodriguez is one exception to this.
Apparently, the Giant World Series victory has reinvigorated San Francisco's Little League.
And, finally, Pedro Martinez says that he's interested in finishing his career with Boston.
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Mr. Dibble
For the record: If I had any pull with the Nationals organization, I too would have lobbied to have you terminated. You are a terrible announcer.
yrs,
TC
by Jeffrey Paternostro on Apr 11, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions
Funny thing is
I live in DC, so I have the misfortune to listen to Nats’ broadcasts on a regular basis (this weekend, I made the decision to mute my TV and was better for it). I actually find Carpenter much more annoying than Dibble was. Dibble, for all his stupidity, at least was refreshing in a very-rough-around-the-edges kind of way, and he wouldn’t hesitate to criticize the team. And he was an awful homer, but at least he was only the color guy. Carpenter is a homer AND is the play-by-play guy, which to me makes him less tolerable.
For what it’s worth, FP Santangelo, who is Dibble’s replacement, seems decent enough.
by dontstopbelieving on Apr 11, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Carpenter is awful
I live in Nats TV territory, so I get blacked out of the SNY feeds for those games. Carpenter is brutal. Not only is he a shameless homer who cheers in the booth, but his command of the facts is awful. During the course of the weekend series, I heard him:
1) Knock the Mets for following the “moneyball” approach to hitting by noting that the Oakland A’s haven’t made the playoffs in years. He later praised the Nationals for being patient at the plate and taking all those walks to put themselves in a position to win the game.
2) Said that Josh Thole is the backup catcher and was only playing because Paulino is on the DL. Also called him a “punch and judy” hitter.
His new partner, FP Santangelo, is head and shoulders above Dibble. He actually refuted Carpenter’s argument and defended the Mets’ plate approach.
by xnumberoneson on Apr 11, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty ridiculous
When has anyone ever said Paulino would be the starter? Also, I feel like Thole has become a much better hit since he first came up.
Since when is it bad to be patient at the plate? The Yankees, who are always near the top in offense waste more pitches than anyone else.
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
Santangelo is excellent
but he’s probably wondering what he got himself into. Carpenter should be doing bottom-tier college basketball games, if anything. Just hideous. I wonder if the Orioles are forcing the Nats to keep him. (Not really, but they do control MASN, right?)
Agreed on all points
Carpenter is painful to listen to, homer and all. I’ve found Santangello to be a welcome addition to what had been an atrocious booth. I’m not sure his presence will offset the sheer awfulness of Carpenter, but it’s nice to have someone in the booth who can offer an opinion while not simultaneously sounding like an egotistical jackass, a la Dibble.
What’s sad is that most of the fans in DC liked Dibble and I’ve seen a decent number actually taking his side with regards to this asinine dispute. Of course this a town that thinks Sunny and Sam are two terrific football analysts, even if the latter is senile and is little more than an open cheerleader. And then you’ve got Carpenter in baseball and Larry Michaels on the radio in football, each of whom make Fran Healy look hard hitting by comparison.
He also said
That Reyes had fought some past knee injuries.
I don’t know about you, but my knee and my hamstring definitely aren’t one in the same.
living in North Carolina
im stuck with Atlanta’s awful announcing and Rob Dibble.
truly truly causes migranes
I hate Philadelphia so much.
by the caveman on Apr 11, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
As a VA resident
I must say that Rob Dibble was not only annoying, but he was the most unprofessional douchebags that I have EVER had to listen to. I’m blacked out when the Mets play the Nats, so I had to listen to him all the time and just hearing him bitch and moan about every play that didn’t go the Nats way annoyed me. It’s when he laughed when Ramon Castro got hurt on the field that really pissed me off. Like, did this motherfucker really just laugh?
Anyways, I’m glad he’s gone, but the Nats announcers are stil brutal. They still cry when a strike call or base running call doesn’t go their way and someone needs to turn down Bob Carpenter’s mic or at least ask him to stop asking like every strike out or decent defensive play pulled off by the Nats isn’t the end of game 7 of the WS.
Fuck
/rant
by ritzdeez on Apr 11, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The short shelf life of middle relievers
Boyer’s dismissal was as much about starting pitcher performance as it was about his own. The pen is burned out, they needed some fresh bodies and Boyer had the misfortune of being both the last guy to fail and also the last guy to make the club out of camp. He’s also much more expendable and more easily replaced than a starting pitcher. Had the pen been well-rested prior to yesterday’s game, Boyer would not have been in that spot yesterday.
The fact that the pen is birbedo
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Posting and driving
Not a good combo sometimes. Fail
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Im good now
just got an app that has a camera that shows me whats ahead of me when I type, then it copies and pastes into my SMS.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
is that really an app?
still seems like a less than ideal choice for driving
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 11, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't tell if he's mocking me or not
It’s so absurd that I think he must be, but I don’t know, it’s hard to be surprised these days.
Not mocking you
Its real. Didnt buy it. No disrepect Super
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, no problem
It would have been quite funny.
the fact that app exists makes me weep for humanity
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 11, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too lol
I couldnt believe it was real when I looked it up. And the fact you get to pay $0.99 for it is amazing. Damn, now I wonder if it really worksa lol.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
well I imagine the program itself is simple if you just hold the phone up in front of your face
and you get PIP from your camera with the road in the corner. It’s still a horrible idea
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 11, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than the one that texts you if the car in front of you stops
I think he’s just having a bituva laugh.
Hey I've been to south florida
and all drivers are preoccupied there. This is just par for the course down there.
A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
by Blame-everyone-else on Apr 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Right cuz South Florida drivers
cuz South Florida drivers are so much worse than up North right?
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well....
no offense buddy, but having just returned from Florida (central), I can tell you that I will take NY/NJ drivers any day. I got cut off on the highway ( I was doing 80, well above the limit ), by several cars who thought I was going too slow. The next day, I had to avoid a woman in a minivan who almost came to a full stop in the middle lane of a busy road, and when I passed her I realized why she had stopped…….she was dialing on her cellphone.
At least up north, the potholes are the great equalizer.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I will admit there are a lot of crappy drivers down here.
But there are the same type of people up there. And more of them due to population differences.(disclaimer: I havent been up there in a few years.)
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah, no doubt.
crappy drivers are everywhere.
where in FLA are you anyway ?.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Boca Raton
Its about 40 minutes north of Miami.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
know it well.
nice…..my next trip will be down that way. Looking to buy a place near the water.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
NYC drivers are generally better than most.
Having living in LA for almost a year now, it astounds me how a culture whose only means of transport is the automobile is so horrendous at driving. I am convinced they skip they chapter on signaling in driver’s ed.
I’ll take driving in NYC any day. In my experience, NYC drivers are far more attentive, and skilled. We can probably thank the tight lanes and potholes for that.
by keithprime on Apr 11, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
NYC pedestrians are the best as well
Seriously, New Yorkers know how to walk on crowded sidewalks and keep moving. When we’re in groups and need to stop, we don’t start a conversation at a corner so that twice as many people are blocked.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
No kidding.
There is a reservoir in my neighborhood here in LA with a dirt running path. Naturally, a lot of people run there. Does that stop people from stopping in the middle of the running path and talking with their dogs running around at their ankles (often off the leash?) Of course not! Do they even bother to move to the side when they see runners/joggers approaching? Of course not! What kills me is that anyone who goes to the reservoir knows they will encounter runners/joggers there. Shit like this makes me miss NYC immensely.
Silver Lake?
Honestly, the description sounds exactly as I remember it.
"He's definitely mixing it into his repertoire. That's French for 'repertoire' " - Keith Hernandez
by Catsmeat Potter-Pirbright on Apr 11, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nailed it.
Very impressive. They recently opened up the Silver Lake Meadow. Curious to see how long it takes for dog owners to start ignoring the “no dogs, use the damn dog park” mandate.
Don’t get me wrong, I love dogs, but unfortunately not all dog owners clean up after their dogs. Plus, it would be nice to keep the grass green.
Yup
If you think it’s bad in LA, ever since I’ve moved to the Boston area I am continually astounded at the crappy drivers here. Signaling has been totally forgotten , and they are foreever slamming on their brakes in the middle of driving. NYers may be aggresive drivers but I find them way more attentive than any where else.
A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
by Blame-everyone-else on Apr 11, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I give my g/f this exact rant probably once per day.
I will take aggressive and attentive over aloof any day of the week.
Not to sound like a broken record, but it is incredible how many people do not signal or who randomly brake for no reason at all. In a way I’m glad that I’m not just a crazy person and other people experience this too.
I have a friend who purposely doesn't signal
because he says it just gives other drivers notice so they can counter and not let him in. I think he has hostility issues.
Unfortunately, he kind of has a point.
A lot of people will suddenly speed up when they see someone signaling to enter their lane. Still a good idea to signal though.
My main problem is not signaling when pulling into a parking spot, driveway, or making a turn at an intersection.
all right, I think you both have hostility issues
heh. kidding.
/sigh
I give this same rant to my wife every time I come home from work. And all my friends here think I am nuts whenever I bring up the subject. They see nothing wrong with what goes on here.
A deadline has a wonderful way of concentrating the mind.-Professor James Moriarty
by Blame-everyone-else on Apr 11, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.
People here think we’re “arrogant New Yorkers” because we think NYers do everything better. Especially pizza.
by keithprime on Apr 11, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for the truth.
"And that's why anybody who invested with Lenny Dykstra should really call that number. Lawyers are standing by."
by BobbyV_Incognito on Apr 11, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
LA is a horrorshow. I drove there once, and I dread ever having to do it again
Hey, wait! I'm having one of those things. You know? A headache with pictures?
by KeithsMoustache on Apr 11, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you doing out of mom's basement?
Get back inside and look at your abacus and your spreadsheets!
Chamption of the R.A. Dickey Face contest and "Cromulent Photoshopper Extraordinaire" of Amazin' Avenue!
by Steve Schreiber on Apr 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The fact that the pen is burned out less than 10
games into the season is not a good sign. Ugh
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure if they were burned out
A lack of talent will produce failure, no matter how well rested.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Boyer had pitched about 4-5 times
and literally done nothing but give up runs. Plus a bunch of fly balls. He wasn’t doing what he was brought in to do. And as the last man in the pen, he had a shorter leash than most. He needed a good start, and was awful thus far. The mistake was taking him over Acosta from the beginning. At least they are quickly responding to their errors.
Omar would let him pitch til June.
traveling photoshooper.
i hate shane victorino more than anyone else.
@sparbz
Short-term burnout
Buchholz and K-Rod have pitched two straight days. I don’t think the team felt comfortable going into a Pelfrey outing with only Beato and Parnell as late-inning options.
by xnumberoneson on Apr 11, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
not so...
they didn’t rid themselves of boyer because he was the ‘last guy to fail’… they did it because this front office is actually in touch with the sentiments of the fanbase and if they hadn’t we would be talking about ‘when the hell are they going to deport boyer- he’s fucking awful’.
one step ahead of the armchair quarterbacks here and kudos to them for doing it.
by indickeywetrust on Apr 11, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think they let us make the call, or anything.
That would be a bit of a nightmare. I think he just . . . sucked.
Yes this
When a ground ball pitcher is giving up fly balls, it’s time to cut the cord
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
not so...
This front office makes roster moves based on what is best for team performance, and with little regard for public perception.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Sandy has actually said, though
that public sentiment can play a part in decisions, such as with Luis and Ollie.
He did say that about those two
but he has also stressed that normally public sentiment is not factored in, and he has the track record to support that.
Castillo and Perez were probably unique in that their presence might have had a measurably negative impact on ticket sales.
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
This is why Alderson never should have made that statement.
Because now people will think that it’s true. Ever think he said that to placate the fanbase?
The correlation between
a player who is universally disliked by the fanbase and being very bad at baseball is probably a very strong.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
slappy had to go.
It was just made more obvious by the fact we despised hime because he sucked. Sucked out loud.
and he always stepped in the bucket when he swung that pissed me off too.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
I don't think this was his reason
for demoting Boyer. I was merely reacting quickly to a comment that this fron office doesn’t do that kind of thing. And i agree it was mostly because Ollie and Luis were long time deadweights and huge contracts with assive ill will from fans, not like Boyer. Still, he said it. I don’t think Omar overreacted to fan opinion either. Otherwise he’d have eaten Ollie and Luis’s salary long ago. :)
oh, agreed
I could have qualified the comment bu I was merely responding to a blanket claim that this front ofice doesn’t respons to fan opinion. Omar didn’t either, really. I trust Sandy far more. I wasn’t trying to suggest Sandy is some kind of panic-driven follower of public sentiment.
if they ran the club based on fan sentiment...
Pelfrey wouldn’t be starting today.
by xnumberoneson on Apr 11, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
so we got the two loses on the homestand out of the way
We sweep the rest right? Its how this works if i’m not mistaken
I hate Philadelphia so much.
With Manny's retirement,
I guess it’s time for the baseball writers to get on their high horses & preach to us about drugs “taking the heart out of the game, destroying MLB’s integrity” & all that other bullshit. I just hope that one day someone like Jeter gets caught using steroids. I’d love to see the mental gymnastics these sanctimonous motherfuckers will attempt in defending him after years of attacking players like Bonds, McGwire & Bagwell(& they didn’t even have any evidence).
And MLB needs to have Pedro involved in some capacity. Even though his overall tenure wasn’t great with the Mets, I’m still very appreciative of his 2005 performance.
What's that about?
I think the Jeter reaction
would probably go the Pettite route. A few days of blah blah then swept away.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you already have a case for Pettite
I hope he gets elected—not for his career stats but, rather, to set the precedent that known users can get in.
by TheBigStapler on Apr 11, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball is full of black marks
I don’t understand why gambling and PEDs are the only “character” aspects that seem to block Hall entry so invariably. Ty Cobb repeatedly kicked a handicapped fan with his spikes. Gaylord Perry doctored balls and so on.
Not everybody in the Hall of Fame needs to have Roberto Clemente or Jackie Robinson-level quality of character. There are many, many grade-A jerks throughout baseball’s history. This culture of blacklisting for PEDs is just annoying.
by TheBigStapler on Apr 11, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
All I meant was that Pettite
was the only one that actually admitted it, but wasnt crucified. Im not sure why.
by SFloridaMetsFan on Apr 11, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Pettite had been on the record
As saying that PED use was bad and he never did it.
If I remember correctly – he said he put all his faith in God to help him pitch.
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
And a Yankee.
And is the stereotypical “gritty, big-game pitcher” that the MSM loves.
Save Jenrry Mejia!
For my money,
a sanctimonious twit who finds his own rule-breaking oh-so-understandable, while condemning the very same behavior in others, is a pretty colossal douche.
by SuperT on Apr 11, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
great point
personally, I think Pete Rose should be in the hall.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Looking at tonight's lineup
1. Reyes
2. Murphy
3. Wright
4. Beltran
5. Davis
6. Pagan
7. Harris
8. Thole
9. Pelfrey
I get the sense that Terry Collins is a bit of a tinkerer day-to-day with the batting order. That was one of the things I hated about Jerry Manuel: that kind of roster micro-management left a bad taste in my mouth. I suspect this is because I just didn’t trust his reasoning, i.e. “riding the hot hand” or “using the 2-hole to get people out of slumps.”
Let’s hope that Collins’ brand of tinkering is different, and in the long run, improves the team’s chances of winning every single game.
Fun fact: Did you know that in 2009, Daniel Murphy batted at least once in every spot in the order except 9th?
At least he is only playing with #2, #6 and #7
Sure I’d like to see the top 6 as locks and Pagan hitting #2, but it’s not the end of the world (yet).
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
1-6 can be an offensive powerhouse
but the AB’s during the Washington series have me concerned. Hacking at the plate creeped into the abs of many i heard/saw (via my new purchase of AT BAT 11). I disapprove. Hopefully the coaching staff puts an end to it quickly and we see a little more patience.
I hate Philadelphia so much.
Maybe TC is just waiting for Bay to get back?
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
It might put 4 lefties in a row in the bottom of the order.
I don’t agree with this, but seems the most plausible explanation for a typical manager.
In lobby for: Jaime Cevallos, Zack Lutz, orange unis and Rickroll as the 7th inning song.
The Unwritten Rules of AA
Side note, looking at this lineup
Can’t wait for Bay to come back. He’s going to be a nice upgrade over Harris and will make the batting order go deeeeeeep.
Professor, Robin, Traid, Batman, Bayrut, Ike, Famaus/Hammer, Holy, and Bats in the Pelfrey
= CHAMPTIONS.
by TheBigStapler on Apr 11, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This gets a rec.
I love the nicknames for the batting order
"Lopez wants it away, and it's hit deep to left center, Andruw Jones on the run, this one has a chance... home run!, Mike Piazza!, and the Mets lead 3 to 2!"
Geek time.
But shouldn’t Pagan be “Nightwing?”
by keithprime on Apr 11, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought Pagan was Crazy Horse
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