The Pepsi Porch

This has been bugging me for a while. The problem with the Pepsi Porch was no more prevalent than in today's final at bat of the first game of the double header. David Wright drilled one to his happy zone, opposite field...and it was a fly ball out to end the game. My biggest question is, why take away what was David Wright's homer zone? This park was built around Jose Reyes when it really should have been built around the franchises best player.

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Wilpons

YOU SUCK

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 14, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

because the world hates us

"The one thing you don't want to do is hit a home run. That's a rally-killer." -Jeff Francoeur

by RangersandMets on Apr 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions

Will the nightmare

ever end?

by MCATDT on Apr 14, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions

Because if you put the right field fence is 20 feet you can't call it the Pepsi Porch

And you can’t make money.

Gas prices today are a lot like a pitcher's ERA. Anything under 3 is amazing, under 4 is pretty good and anything 5 and up is something you want to avoid.

by Bobby Baseball on Apr 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions

more like the poopsy porch

amirite?

HELLO HELLO MR WILPON... BUY THAT MANSION. WE DONT NEED A CONDO.

by kendynamo on Apr 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

…just to make a large profit by selling suites and overpriced seats. Shea was utilitarian and played fair. 45,000 of the 55,000 seats had unobstructed views. Now—-maybe 12,000 out of 42,000. Shea? Even during excrciating times, it offered a beautiful summer breeze and views of NYC. The stadium named after a bank was constructed from a hodgepodge of whims, false nostalgia, ADD, and rabid greed. “All fans are equal, but some fans are more equal than others.” It has some virtues—-better toilets, better food, Stella on tap for the drunks, etc.—-but it’s “not home.” There hasn’t been a meaningful game played there yet, and surely not one for a long time coming.

The stadium wasn’t built for Reyes over Wright. It was just built. With no thought. It’s a reflection of the nadir that composes the Wilpon mindset. And it’s numbing…

But don’t blame the loss on the field. Blame it on a mediocre and borderline-bankrupt team.

by PoppedItUp! on Apr 14, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs

I didn't blame the loss on the field

it didn’t help though lol

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by EMSfan9 on Apr 14, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

It would have played to our advantage

Had Hairston made a catch on almost the same type of play earlier in the game. Our crappy OF defense has taken what should be equal footing and given an advantage to our opponents.

by Balagast on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

"and views of NYC"

wait, what? From where? Shea was built facing away from NYC…

I agree with most everything else you wrote, but that’s false.

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by cjmulrain on Apr 14, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure it's home

Citi Field not feeling like a Mets stadium is a trope that was debunked like three years ago.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 12:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs

This strikes me as a totally subjective thing

And not one to be “debunked”. To some, Citi doesn’t feel like “home”. To others it does. It’d be like debunking someone’s favorite color. To each his own on this one.

by James Kannengieser on Apr 16, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Where do you get your numbers for the number of Citi Field seats with unobstructed views?

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by Russ on Apr 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

His gut?

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by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Jerry Manuel's gut?

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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 15, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I was more mad about his double off the number 17 in LF in the nightcap.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Whenever you hit a ball nearly 400 feet

and it doesnt go out, you have a serious fucking problem and it needs fixing.

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by NetsMets4Life on Apr 14, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions

I agree.

Unless it’s to dead-center CF.

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by Ogre39666 on Apr 14, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly

by NetsMets4Life on Apr 14, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Things like this will even out over the season

but I agree that parts of the field configuration are just silly. I’ve never liked the quirks and illogically tall walls. What exactly is the point?

by Mount17 on Apr 14, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions

The design of the stadium is whacky and ridiculous

But it comes a point where we have to stop saying our guys are getting cheated by spacious Citi, because the other teams that come in here have no problem banging them out.

by TheKid08 on Apr 14, 2011 11:57 PM EDT reply actions

I actually have n problems with the quirkiness.

I just don’t like the high walls.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions

This

The quirkiness? Pointless, but whatever. Huge walls that even cost Mike friggin Pelfrey a home run? Not cool.

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 12:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

it's not really pointless

Wrights fly ball would have ended the game as a GS.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

So we can either cry about it

or get over it and appreciate the non-dump of a stadium we have.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions

i miss that dump thank you very much

good memories there

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Great memories.

But the lack of memories at a 3 year old stadium isn’t enough for me to want the old one back.

Save Jenrry Mejia!

by Ogre39666 on Apr 15, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

nope, but i liked how shea played. I wish they had basically made a replica of it, just less covered in sticky stuff

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too

I always liked that Shea was considered a “fair” ballpark without any gimmmicks like the wind at Wrigley, the green monstah at Fenway, the short RF porch in yankee stadium, etc, etc. I understand that many of those are left over from history but that’s the point. You can’t just make history.

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by blains2000 on Apr 16, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

this

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 15, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Rabble rabble rabble

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by Michkin on Apr 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Love it

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by EMSfan9 on Apr 15, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

you forgot the Willie Harris

“lost it in the lights” part of the park

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by fxcarden on Apr 15, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

where's the Tulo section?

by TheKid08 on Apr 16, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions

That section would've been everywhere.

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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 16, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

mostly true, although while the stadium doesn't drain home runs as a whole

it pretty specifically and inexplicably was designed to be as difficult for Wright to hit in as possible. Honestly the stadium design confuses the hell out of me. The walls suggest it should be a pitchers park, but the lack of real estate in foul territory largely negates any assistance the high walls give us by giving batters more chances to get ahold of a pitch. This works both ways, sure, so I cant completely complain, but I feel like this stadium was designed by someone who has never actually watched a baseball game in their life.

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Its designed for guy who crush the ball

The kind of hitters that hit absolutely no doubter HR’s. They can foul everything off and wait for the perfect pitch to demolish.

by Balagast on Apr 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

exactly, which is a terrible design for what is allegedly supposed to be a pitchers park

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

also we don't have too many moonshot home run hitters

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

Carlos Delgado Stadium

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Apr 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

So...

I feel like this stadium was designed by someone who has never actually watched a baseball game in their life.

what your saying is that the stadium was designed by a sabermetrician?

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by Steve Schreiber on Apr 15, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions

i've once seen a spreadsheet shaped like a baseball park

and thats close enough

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not even saying a lot of our guys are getting cheated

just one. David Wright’s opposite field power has pretty much been destroyed by this ballpark.

Enjoying what may be the final season of two of my favorite Mets in Blue and Orange: Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran

by EMSfan9 on Apr 15, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Parts of the field are ridiculous

But it seems kind of short-sighted to build a stadium you’ll be in for 40-odd years around a star you’ll have for the next five years.

I like the idea of a pitcher’s park — much better than Yankee or CPB — but I could do without the high walls and the quirk-for-the-sake-of-having-a-quirk Mo’s Zone.

by Bieser's Balk on Apr 15, 2011 10:03 AM EDT reply actions

but its not really built like a proper pitchers park

the walls will prevent longballs, sure, but the complete lack of foul territory goes against the basic principles of a pitchers park, giving your fielders as many chances to catch the ball as possible. It’s like they couldn’t make up their mind about whether or not it should be a pitchers park, and just screwed the whole thing up.

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Bringing up our fielders

They have been terrible. I just looked on FanGraphs. As a team the Mets are dead last in DRS at -22. The to worst is at -14.

Our outfielders are at -4 and second worst so far. The pitching has been weak, but the problem has been greatly exacerbated by our defense being miserable.

by Balagast on Apr 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah the defense in OF has been absoultely horrific

i never thought i’d long for Jason Bay in left field.

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Do any new stadiums these days have a lot of foul territory?

I think that comes down to economics and having more expensive seats close to action than anything.

by Bieser's Balk on Apr 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

i feel like Petco, which is reasonably new

and a proper pitchers park, has significantly more foul territory, but maybe it’s just me. Anyone know where I could find foul territory measurements for ballparks?

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by KeithsMoustache on Apr 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions